I started on the Aulos and later on switched to the Yamaha. In my opinion the differences between the two is not so noticeable for beginners, but the Yamaha is great for more advanced musicians as it is very flexible on the high F to C. The Aulos squeeks much easier there as well as on the low f and g. Overall the differences are more noticeable for the player than the audience.
I have the Aulos Symphony Sopranino and love it!! The workmanship for such a small, cheap instrument is outstanding!! Love the wood effect look of the Yamaha!!
@@nickperpirakis2211 - Yes, the Aulos sopranino really is outstanding for a plastic instrument imo!! I currently require a decent plastic alto so I don't wear out my Moeck Rottenburgh (it is pear wood unfortunately and I'm told pearwood doesn't last well with a lot of playing), and really cannot decide whether to get an Aulos or a Yamaha (or a Zen-on Bressan). I am a fairly quiet player who doesn't use a lot of breath pressure and wonder if the Yamaha instruments might suit me? How is the stretch for the right hand with the Yamaha? I have small stiff hands (stiffness due to myofascial pain) The Moeck tests me to the limits whereas my old Aulos 209b was a bit smaller to play, and more comfortable!! Thanks for your time and wonderful playing!!
@@honeychurchgipsy6 you can check out my video comparing the Aulos and the Yamaha one ruclips.net/video/_Ksu8M4qbR4/видео.html I think Yamaha is similar to the moeck because they both are based in Rottenburgh model.
@@nickperpirakis2211 - thanks I will - nice to know what makers of plastic recorders base their models on. So, I think I'm leaning towards a Yamaha - I'd like an Aulos Haka but that wide stretch for the right hand little finger puts me off.
Very hard to tell them apart, even with headphones on. But how do they compare when it comes to clogging? My Yamaha alto is a devil for clogging. I've yet to play an Aulos Yamaha but I think I would always favour Aulos
Although I own many wooden recorders, I reach for my plastic instruments for practicing generally, and I'm definitely team Yamaha! I'm actually a huge fan of the Ecodear series! I have both the soprano and alto, very sweet sounding, close to boxwood. You can hear myself and my friend Jamison playing a Telemann duet is this video of Sarah's at the 4'15" mark. ruclips.net/video/ViP8LJLuzqI/видео.html
Wow! That’s really cool! I’ve seen your friend too in other videos of his own! Yes, I’m team Yamaha too, and I would love to try out one day the ecodear one.
Started watching Sarah a few days ago and just ordered an Ecodear alto today! You and your friend sounded wonderful and now I'm even more excited about getting my recorder and learning how to play!
Πολυ ωραίο άκουσμα έχουν και οι δύο. Μικρές οι διαφορές στον ήχο τους οπότε επιλέγουμε οποία ταιριάζει στο αυτί μας. Προσωπικά έχω και τις δύο αλλά η aulos μου κλογκαρει λιγότερο στα χαμηλα. Τες πα μπορεί να μην έχω βρει το κουμπί της yamaha ακόμα. 😄 Συνέχισε την καλή δουλειά!
What are you playing at 0:37? Also, do you have a ecodear Alto? If yes, how does it compare with this yamaha alto? I think I prefer the canvas pouches than fake leather. The blue colour is nice. I hate the green colour of the pouches for the ecodear models though. But still prefer canvas sensorily over leather...
Good evening. I saw the video and the comparison between the two flutes. I have the Yamaha YRA 314BIII a Fehr in pear wood and a Moeck Rottembuorg in rosewood. I would like to play Greesleeves with the alto. Where can I find the score? Thanks Marco
Hi Marco. The Greensleeves divisions I’m playing in this video if from the first volume of the “division flute “ book, Amadeus editions. I think you can find it also in imslp to download it. It is a 1706 book including various famous tunes and their divisions (variations) by various composers.
Hi. Thank you for your interest. I noticed a difference between the Yamaha YRA314BII flute and the rosewood Moeck. The position of the holes is different, the Yamaha has the holes closer like the Fehr than the Moeck even if the Moeck has a decidedly different sound brighter, however the Yamaha even if made of plastic is not then so bad. What do you think about it? Marco
Every instrument is different and this doesn’t mean that is better than the others. Good plastic instruments, such as Yamaha 300 series, are very reliable and even professionals use the for practicing on in some special occasions. My next wooden soprano I think might be a moeck Rottenburgh in palisander
I have three soprano flutes a Yamaha YRA 314BIII, a Moeck in maple and the last one the Schneider, then I have three alto a Yamaha always like the soprano YRA314BIII an old Fehr in pear wood and the Moeck in rosewood, I sent it during the week to Moeck for the revision also because being of precious wood I don't want to waste it while the Fehr I revise for me it is almost 70 years old but it still works well then I paid for it on Ebay only € 50. Which type of flute do I prefer? Without a doubt the alto for the low and at the same time harmonic sound. What flutes do you have? I live in Italy and you?
@@nickperpirakis2211 ...And I do absolutely adore my new 509B - love its heavier feeling and amazingly balanced and louder sound in all registers. As for me _(and after I tested "1000" of them)_ , the Aulos Haka and Aulos Symphony are THE Best factory-made ABS resin altos on the market today 🤎🖤 PS: Yes, I played, loved and preferred my old Yamaha 312 for many years. But not any more.... B) + My biggest disappointment ever = Yamaha Ecodear...dull, lifeless and anemic sound 🤢
Is a variation of La Follia theme.from the Division Flute. Actually this is not as it is written 😅it’s kind of my variation because the original is in 3/4 and here I’m playing in 6/8 😁
@@nickperpirakis2211 interesting as I was thinking during your demo the aulos sounded more like wooden concert recorders I've played. Could be my mouth and wind.
funny, it feels to me the Yamaha has a fuller sound in the lower notes. I feel the Aulos is more steady and dynamic, but I find the Yamaha closer to the wooden sound
@@turnipsociety706 Aulos sacrifices thick tone for this buzzy airy sound some call reedy sounding. The yamaha is warmer but the Aulos has more character to my ears. Some call the reedy sound plasticky, but really it’s just more airy in how I hear it. Yamaha is good too, but too pure for me
More like a plastic head on a wooden body(if it fits), that’d probably make more of a difference in how the body vibrates apposed to where the wind splits yea?
the Aulos feels better in the staccato, responds well to the tonguing. The timbre of the Yamaha seems to be fuller. I would play the Aulos for dynamic pieces, the Yamaha when I am looking to a beautiful round sound, especially in lower register
@@turnipsociety706 yes Yamaha has a bit more of a warm sound, pure, and pristine.......while the Aulos is a bit more airy, reedy, and has more character. But these differences I’ll admit are slight and both hit the check marks for chipper I’d say 💩
Ambos instrumentos me parecen buenos pero faltó la prueba definitiva: con las notas agudas, sobretodo con el fa# agudo; tengo una Yamaha YRA28B III y esa nota suena sobreafinada tanto en la posición principal como en las opcionales. También tengo una alto Aulos 309E que no presenta ese problema.
@@nickperpirakis2211 I can’t find a single person to compare them both on RUclips. You could get a ton of views if you did so. Most are comparing Haka with a Yamaha and not Haka against Stmphony or even better with all three.
@@TheKiwibird321 that would be a very interesting video. The first I bought was the Yamaha one, but since I got into a consort I bought the symphony because all the members of this consort have all the range of the Symphony family, from sopranino to bass.otherwise I wouldn’t change it. I’m very curious about Zen On and Kulossa altos as well
@@nickperpirakis2211 all of them play in the same key and the same tuning. Why does everyone need a symphony? You’re playing them both together in your video and it seems to match well enough. I guess I am just more curious to learn more about what you mean.
@@TheKiwibird321 just for having a uniformity 🤷🏼♂️ our teacher claims that instrument by the same manufacturer sounds better together than from various manufacturers. To be honest I haven’t the same opinion. But for her favor I bought an Aulos soprano, alto and sopranino( although I had them Alain Yamaha). The tenor I didn’t change it’s not a cheap instrument 😅. And when I had to bus bass I chose he Aulos one( knick head)
In my opinion, the Aulos 509B Symphony is a big no no... More harder for articulation and really bad in faster playing. Yamaha YRA-314BIII is great. Aulos has got very good recorders in Sopranino and Tenor, but in Alto, I prefer the Yamaha.
I love the Aulos sopranino. In between the two altos, to be honest I prefer the Yamaha one too. I have also the Yamaha tenner and I love it.soon if we come a video comparing Yamaha and Aulos tenors 😉
I started on the Aulos and later on switched to the Yamaha. In my opinion the differences between the two is not so noticeable for beginners, but the Yamaha is great for more advanced musicians as it is very flexible on the high F to C. The Aulos squeeks much easier there as well as on the low f and g.
Overall the differences are more noticeable for the player than the audience.
I have the Aulos Symphony Sopranino and love it!! The workmanship for such a small, cheap instrument is outstanding!! Love the wood effect look of the Yamaha!!
Among the Aulos consort I have, the sopranino is my favorite. I’d say that in Yamaha I like more the mat finish than the wood effect.
@@nickperpirakis2211 - Yes, the Aulos sopranino really is outstanding for a plastic instrument imo!!
I currently require a decent plastic alto so I don't wear out my Moeck Rottenburgh (it is pear wood unfortunately and I'm told pearwood doesn't last well with a lot of playing), and really cannot decide whether to get an Aulos or a Yamaha (or a Zen-on Bressan).
I am a fairly quiet player who doesn't use a lot of breath pressure and wonder if the Yamaha instruments might suit me?
How is the stretch for the right hand with the Yamaha?
I have small stiff hands (stiffness due to myofascial pain) The Moeck tests me to the limits whereas my old Aulos 209b was a bit smaller to play, and more comfortable!!
Thanks for your time and wonderful playing!!
@@honeychurchgipsy6 you can check out my video comparing the Aulos and the Yamaha one ruclips.net/video/_Ksu8M4qbR4/видео.html I think Yamaha is similar to the moeck because they both are based in Rottenburgh model.
@@nickperpirakis2211 - thanks I will - nice to know what makers of plastic recorders base their models on.
So, I think I'm leaning towards a Yamaha - I'd like an Aulos Haka but that wide stretch for the right hand little finger puts me off.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 I think the Yamaha is a good choice 😉
Very hard to tell them apart, even with headphones on. But how do they compare when it comes to clogging? My Yamaha alto is a devil for clogging. I've yet to play an Aulos Yamaha but I think I would always favour Aulos
Nice comparison. I bought the YRA314BIII. At time 2:11 what is the melody?
It’s the Greensleeves variations, from the Division Flute
Useful comparisons. Thank you
☺️☺️☺️
I like the black on. Aulos? But which is which? Confusing and frustrating.
I've been deciding between an Aulos and Yamaha. I'm definitely going for the yamaha.
Although I own many wooden recorders, I reach for my plastic instruments for practicing generally, and I'm definitely team Yamaha! I'm actually a huge fan of the Ecodear series! I have both the soprano and alto, very sweet sounding, close to boxwood. You can hear myself and my friend Jamison playing a Telemann duet is this video of Sarah's at the 4'15" mark. ruclips.net/video/ViP8LJLuzqI/видео.html
Wow! That’s really cool! I’ve seen your friend too in other videos of his own! Yes, I’m team Yamaha too, and I would love to try out one day the ecodear one.
@@nickperpirakis2211 Your playing sounded great btw!
@@recorder71 thank you! Still I have to practice a lot
I have a Yamaha plastic which I okayed grade 5 on. Really good recorder with a beautiful sound.
Started watching Sarah a few days ago and just ordered an Ecodear alto today! You and your friend sounded wonderful and now I'm even more excited about getting my recorder and learning how to play!
Πολυ ωραίο άκουσμα έχουν και οι δύο. Μικρές οι διαφορές στον ήχο τους οπότε επιλέγουμε οποία ταιριάζει στο αυτί μας. Προσωπικά έχω και τις δύο αλλά η aulos μου κλογκαρει λιγότερο στα χαμηλα. Τες πα μπορεί να μην έχω βρει το κουμπί της yamaha ακόμα. 😄
Συνέχισε την καλή δουλειά!
Πιστεύω ότι είναι ισάξιες, έχει να κάνει με το τι ταιριάζει στον καθένα. Ευχαριστώ ☺️
How about an Aulos 709W Haka? (It’s the one I’ve ordered. Kind of late as I’ve already ordered one, ha ha).
Hy, useful video! What melody is at 1:30 ?Have you a link to sheet?
What are you playing at 0:37?
Also, do you have a ecodear Alto? If yes, how does it compare with this yamaha alto?
I think I prefer the canvas pouches than fake leather. The blue colour is nice. I hate the green colour of the pouches for the ecodear models though. But still prefer canvas sensorily over leather...
Good evening.
I saw the video and the comparison between the two flutes.
I have the Yamaha YRA 314BIII a Fehr in pear wood and a Moeck Rottembuorg in rosewood. I would like to play Greesleeves with the alto.
Where can I find the score?
Thanks Marco
Hi Marco. The Greensleeves divisions I’m playing in this video if from the first volume of the “division flute “ book, Amadeus editions. I think you can find it also in imslp to download it. It is a 1706 book including various famous tunes and their divisions (variations) by various composers.
Hi.
Thank you for your interest.
I noticed a difference between the Yamaha YRA314BII flute and the rosewood Moeck.
The position of the holes is different, the Yamaha has the holes closer like the Fehr than the Moeck even if the Moeck has a decidedly different sound brighter, however the Yamaha even if made of plastic is not
then so bad.
What do you think about it?
Marco
Every instrument is different and this doesn’t mean that is better than the others. Good plastic instruments, such as Yamaha 300 series, are very reliable and even professionals use the for practicing on in some special occasions. My next wooden soprano I think might be a moeck Rottenburgh in palisander
I have three soprano flutes a Yamaha YRA 314BIII, a Moeck in maple and the last one the Schneider,
then I have three alto a Yamaha always like the soprano YRA314BIII an old Fehr in pear wood and the Moeck in rosewood, I sent it during the week to Moeck for the revision also because being of precious wood I don't want to waste it while the Fehr I revise for me it is almost 70 years old but it still works well then I paid for it on Ebay only € 50.
Which type of flute do I prefer? Without a doubt the alto for the low and at the same time harmonic sound.
What flutes do you have?
I live in Italy and you?
If it ain’t dirty it ain’t me.....team Aulos 😏
what's the difference between that one and the 302biii?
I much prefer the Aulos HAKA ♥
I have to try it
@@nickperpirakis2211 Nick, which one sounds/is better to you: 509B or YRA?
@@baroquer as for the sound I prefer the Yamaha one, but this is just a personal preference
@@nickperpirakis2211 ...And I do absolutely adore my new 509B - love its heavier feeling and amazingly balanced and louder sound in all registers. As for me _(and after I tested "1000" of them)_ , the Aulos Haka and Aulos Symphony are THE Best factory-made ABS resin altos on the market today 🤎🖤
PS: Yes, I played, loved and preferred my old Yamaha 312 for many years. But not any more.... B) + My biggest disappointment ever = Yamaha Ecodear...dull, lifeless and anemic sound 🤢
Do you feel any difference on the amount of air to blow? Personally I feel more confortable when there's some resistance on the blow.
Both have narrow windways, so the amount of air is the same.
Dónde consigo esa flauta y de ese color q marca
Which is best for low F and G notes! I received the 709 model and sent it back! Thanks 🙏
These notes are a matter of breathing, not the instrument
@@nickperpirakis2211 thank you Nick maybe you would consider a demo video on this intricate process!🙏
Thanks for that!
You welcome ☺️
0:49 what's the melody you're playing?
Is a variation of La Follia theme.from the Division Flute. Actually this is not as it is written 😅it’s kind of my variation because the original is in 3/4 and here I’m playing in 6/8 😁
The aulos sounds better to me. Richer and more vibrant sound, at least at my cell's phone speaker!
Aulos have richer sound, but sometimes sounds more plastic than the Yamaha
@@nickperpirakis2211 interesting as I was thinking during your demo the aulos sounded more like wooden concert recorders I've played. Could be my mouth and wind.
funny, it feels to me the Yamaha has a fuller sound in the lower notes. I feel the Aulos is more steady and dynamic, but I find the Yamaha closer to the wooden sound
@@turnipsociety706 Aulos sacrifices thick tone for this buzzy airy sound some call reedy sounding. The yamaha is warmer but the Aulos has more character to my ears. Some call the reedy sound plasticky, but really it’s just more airy in how I hear it. Yamaha is good too, but too pure for me
Pure as in, sounds like a keyboard sound on a digital piano.
but what do we think about aulos 300 series vs other Aulos
I still haven’t tried other series of Aulos so I don’t know how it is.
Try a Yamaha wooden head on a plastic body?
More like a plastic head on a wooden body(if it fits), that’d probably make more of a difference in how the body vibrates apposed to where the wind splits yea?
Man I really like the sound of the Yamaha Alto, but I don't wanna have to relearn fingerings again since it's in a different key.
Please, which one do you personally prefer and why?
My personal preference is the Yamaha one. It has just to do with the feeling while playing and touching this instrument.
Which one will be better for begginer?
I’d say both
Aulos has a more melodic sound to my hearing aids! 😆😆
Both are different, it’s a matter of taste ☺️
I hear no difference. I would like to choose the chipper one.
the Aulos feels better in the staccato, responds well to the tonguing. The timbre of the Yamaha seems to be fuller. I would play the Aulos for dynamic pieces, the Yamaha when I am looking to a beautiful round sound, especially in lower register
@@turnipsociety706 yes Yamaha has a bit more of a warm sound, pure, and pristine.......while the Aulos is a bit more airy, reedy, and has more character. But these differences I’ll admit are slight and both hit the check marks for chipper I’d say 💩
Ambos instrumentos me parecen buenos pero faltó la prueba definitiva: con las notas agudas, sobretodo con el fa# agudo; tengo una Yamaha YRA28B III y esa nota suena sobreafinada tanto en la posición principal como en las opcionales. También tengo una alto Aulos 309E que no presenta ese problema.
I got the aulos 309. Does the second octave D give you problems? In mine I have to glissate them from C so that that high D sounds.
@@xarv368 Thank you very much from Colombia.
Aulos migliore!
Cuánto vale necesito una
709Bを試して
nice work!!! like and suscribe!!!
Mejor sonido la primera, más dulce y estable...
Yamaha of course!!!
In Yamaha I love the sound and in Aulos the stability while playing. 🤷🏼♂️
Have you tried Aulos Haka?
No I haven’t but I would love to, I’ve heard the best about it
@@nickperpirakis2211 I can’t find a single person to compare them both on RUclips. You could get a ton of views if you did so. Most are comparing Haka with a Yamaha and not Haka against Stmphony or even better with all three.
@@TheKiwibird321 that would be a very interesting video. The first I bought was the Yamaha one, but since I got into a consort I bought the symphony because all the members of this consort have all the range of the Symphony family, from sopranino to bass.otherwise I wouldn’t change it. I’m very curious about Zen On and Kulossa altos as well
@@nickperpirakis2211 all of them play in the same key and the same tuning. Why does everyone need a symphony? You’re playing them both together in your video and it seems to match well enough. I guess I am just more curious to learn more about what you mean.
@@TheKiwibird321 just for having a uniformity 🤷🏼♂️ our teacher claims that instrument by the same manufacturer sounds better together than from various manufacturers. To be honest I haven’t the same opinion. But for her favor I bought an Aulos soprano, alto and sopranino( although I had them Alain Yamaha). The tenor I didn’t change it’s not a cheap instrument 😅. And when I had to bus bass I chose he Aulos one( knick head)
In my opinion, the Aulos 509B Symphony is a big no no... More harder for articulation and really bad in faster playing. Yamaha YRA-314BIII is great. Aulos has got very good recorders in Sopranino and Tenor, but in Alto, I prefer the Yamaha.
I love the Aulos sopranino. In between the two altos, to be honest I prefer the Yamaha one too. I have also the Yamaha tenner and I love it.soon if we come a video comparing Yamaha and Aulos tenors 😉
How about an Aulos 709W Haka? (It’s the one I’ve ordered. Kind of late as I’ve already ordered one, ha ha).