It’s really funny too cause we’re a top passing and rushing offense so this weird “they don’t trust him” agenda doesn’t work when even outside our top level run game we still have a top offense by most metrics
The Packers have more explosive plays so to say that Love has “less completions and they are holding him back” is dumb. You don’t need to have as many completions if you throw the ball to Watson for a 59 yard completion (Lions game example). Josh Jacobs is a beast which makes the need to throw the ball less
Not about trust. More passing doesn't mean more trust. Sometimes more passing means you don't have a balanced offense, so you HAVE to pass. If you can't run, there's literally no other choice lmao
Especially when we have been a run first team ever since we got Josh Jacobs lmao coach has been trying to push this “they don’t trust him to throw” even though he been fine since the bye
Correct. You cant have a josh jacobs and not give him touches. Pack didnt have that many plays total vs lions. Short field td drives, a fumble, and early struggles had alot to do w it.
If you gave all 32 teams the choice between Geno and Love. You'd get 32 teams picking Love. Can Geno win a game against Love? Sure. There is absolutely zero debate on who is a better QB today
In 2 less games Love 21 TDs-11 INTs // Geno 14 TDs-12 INTs Bruh! Love has out played Stafford against 49ers. And the Packers beat the Rams. Nicks always been a hater. He’s been holding Jordon down on the mountain all season.
I don’t think these dudes actually think before they speak. So because the Seahawks throw more than the packers that means they trust geno more??? Obviously you’re going to pass a bit less when you have the 3rd leading rusher in the league, it’s about balance. It’s like these dudes get up here to look stupid for fun 😂
Honestly, f*** the "JLove getting the Jalen Hurts treatment". It's called having a BALANCED offense and utilizing the 3rd best running back in the NFL (and who's been responsible for half of the team's TDs in the last few weeks). The best analogy I have for this is Josh Allen's passing stats when he transitioned from Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady; he was passing less, but it was because they were smartly utilizing the run game and becoming more EFFICIENT in the passing game. At this point, I'm convinced Mangini is just hating on JLove. 🤬 On a separate note, I can tell that Nick has his own biases toward him as well: I mean, he has GENO SMITH on the same tier as him: JLo has 22TD 11INT while playing hobbled for half the season and missing 3 games while Geno has 14TD-12INT with FAR MORE passing attempts this season... Had to repeat this because of all the recent JLo hate on FTF, and I'm glad you caught it too. Love your content as always though, Julian :)
Geno or Jordan Love??? WTF??? Is it a real question??? 😂😂😂 Geno is not even in the same category of course 😂😂😂 Nick Wright just has this absurd crashes with some qbs and simply hates others - so stupid
Yeah that’s an absolutely insane take. So many teams (good teams, mind you) are going run heavy this year and the ones that aren’t either don’t have a good run game or have elite WR duos like JJ and Addison or Chase or Higgins. I don’t understand how you can make such an assumption when they went out of their way to trade for an elite RB and have been consistently trying to run more this season. Has to be rage bait at this point
Throwing more does not lead to more winning.. the best teams have a balanced attack. Throwing more often means you’re losing.. or it’s a scheme thing.. Listen to BillB.. always talks about how balance is an indicator of winning football.
As a Seahawks fan I loved the Packers beating the shit out of the Cowboys last year in the playoffs! I haven't watched much of Love but I can't wait to see what he can do against this Macdonalds defense. If looking at the Seahawks defense you need to look after the Bye when they took off after getting rid of Baker and Dodson and trading for Ernest Jones and playing rookie Knight along with just now getting previous starters back from injury. This defense is balling. When it comes to Geno he has been the most pressured QB in the NFL until these past 2 weeks when they finally got Abraham Lucas RT back from injury and Olu at Center and Lameua at RG have surprisingly made this Oline turn a corner. This last game after working together as a unit with the same guys they gave up zero sacks and had almost 200 yards rushing. All this even after the starting center to begin the season just decided to retire midseason. I am proud of my Hawks and this will be a good test to see where they are as a contender or not. Good Luck on SNF!
JLove has had a MUCH MUCH MUCH better OL than Geno! Geno has done more with Less than Love. Do you fans know that a QB with time will perform better than when he's under duress. Finally, Seattle has 3 new OL starters. OLU took over for Connor who retired, Laumea is now a huge upgrade at RG and Hawks had a 4th string RT starting until RT Lucas returned from a year injury. It's amazing what a decent OL will do for Geno and Seattle's offense. 3 weeks ago vs Zona, Geno was harassed, sacked 5 times and Seattle couldn't run the rock. Last Sunday, with new upgraded starters gaining some chemistry, Seattle ran for more yards 176 than they had since 2022. Guess what? Geno was NOT sacked, either! Results 24-30 200+1 TD and no picks. A very efficient managing game. And that was against the same Zona team!! And it was in Zona's crib! What changed? The OL! Laumea wasn't playing 3 weeks ago, OLU is still learning the center spot with guys, and RT Lucas is still regaining his rookie form and isn't 100% there. But he's better than a 4th stringer. It's all about the OL!! When Love is harassed which has been far more infrequent than Geno, Love will make poor decisions, throwing against his body, into coverage, etc. The quality of an OL is PARAMOUNT to a QBs success and up until last week, GB has a far more cohesive OL to run Jacobs, which improves play action and time for Love to make good decisions. Not sure how football fans watching vids don't understand this simple FACT. Geno can spin the ball with the best of them and if Seattle harrasses Love like they did to Murray in 2 of 3 weeks, you'll see a disjointed and mistake filled Love!! Murray had 1 pick this season until he faced Seattle. Love has more UPSIDE! yes, but how they're currently playing it's a wash. Had Love been playing behind this Seattle OL all year, he'd have GARBAGE stats. And a great running game also benefits the QB. How fans don't understand this and just look at QB stats in a vacuum shows the ignorance of 95% of the posters here. We shall see on Sunday Night but if Seattle's OL shows the strides it's making after inserting 3 new starters, Geno will show the NFL, he can make good decisions and can spin the rock with the best of them Hawks 27 - Packers 23
😂😂 Jordan Love hasn't thrown a intercepton in 3 weeks so when Jordan love gets hot like he did in last year playoff game VS Dallas. I guarantee you will love him like Charles Barkley.
Nick wright said everything you need to know about this argument. He “trusts” geno more but would rather have love going forward. WHAT?!?! That may have been the dumbest thing I have ever heard. He’s just a love/packer hater. I’m taking love over geno everyday and twice on Sundays.
And up until last week at Detroit when Love only had 20 pass attempts because the running game was rolling, Love had thrown an interception in EVERY road game this season. Guess what? During Seattle's 4 game win streak, Seattle has picked off a pass in EVERY game and took 2 of them to the crib for 6! I would bet that Love will get picked off by this newly energized D and it wouldn't surprise me if it went for 6. Seattle is flying under the radar and it's all good. Everyone loves the Packers to win and cover. Best bets galore. If the weathe is clear, Geno will outperform Love, shut y'all up for another week and Seattle wins a burner Hawks 27 - Packers 23
these guys are clowns its not that they don't trust love throwing josh Jacobs is a beast and the packers share the pie through the team evenly and its a winning formula. These guys are clowns.
You think they trust Love? He was a pick per game player until they lowered his attempts. The guy consistently throws into double coverage... he ain't a star
Are you ready for nicks take today about last nights game? 😂 he’s going bash Brock and blame him for everything when Stafford had pretty much the same stats but give all the praise to Stafford! He’s going to brush off the Deebo drop and not say too much about it but if a WR dropped that pass from Mahomes it would be the biggest deal in the world and he would rant on it the whole take!
lol I’ve literally been seething waiting for it. I was listening to Colin and John M last night and I took to the comments to try to talk about the game but no one was on. Haha. I’ll definitely be bringing it today!
@@JWLSports I blame them both honestly. Stafford played like shit & so did Brock Purdy. He also played like shit. Love him to death, but he was NOT great. However, I am NOT going to hate on the young kid like Nick Wright probably will. I don't think that's right
Yall gotta to remember Geno has about 8 picks on drops and tips. You take that away Geno only has about 8 picks or so. Yall need to start watching these games and learn how to watch these all 22s which tell you the story. Geno gets respect from people who actually know the game of football. Man im taking #7 Geno. He is a better Qb. Yall done fail in love with that one great game against them Cowboys. Tune in on Sunday night and watch what happens.
@@status7505 WHAT?!?!? Aww gosh darn it, that's all I ever wanted! I was really hoping that someone on youtube would just tell me they cared. I care that others care about my pointless opinion. My day is ruined
So Julian, based on your EYE test of Love and Geno right now and I've studied both Qbs, what does Love do better than Geno? If you have the balla to respond, I will tell you what Geno does better than Love right now. You NEVER once actually went through the attributes. Straw man, Julian!! 😂 I'll cook ya dude!! No doubt i know more about the analysis. 😂
Colin cowherd is wrong for a living. Jordan love is terrible, ur just hyping up shitty ass qb play around the league. These qbs are mentally slow and can't make basic reads without throwing pic after pic.
How are theses guys gettin paid too talk on tv it’s called balance and also match ups styles makes fights if yo corners bad or 2nd string playin I mite juss decide to throw more or if yo front 7 not that gud i mite juss run alil more but overall gotta have balance #GO🦁s
Does Seattle have a good rushing game, do they have a good offensive line? Love is not night and day better than Geno. Better? Maybe, but night and day? No.
Sorry you are wrong they are turning it down he obviously has less pass attempts over the last 3 weeks because he throws too many pics we all love Jordan but he had to turn the pics down a little bit that is true
Mangini and Nick Wright have become Jordan Love haters out of nowhere this season lol
It’s really funny too cause we’re a top passing and rushing offense so this weird “they don’t trust him” agenda doesn’t work when even outside our top level run game we still have a top offense by most metrics
Hahaha so true. Think Mangini was like “I’m gonna make a crazy take for TV” hahaha
The Packers have more explosive plays so to say that Love has “less completions and they are holding him back” is dumb. You don’t need to have as many completions if you throw the ball to Watson for a 59 yard completion (Lions game example). Josh Jacobs is a beast which makes the need to throw the ball less
Not about trust. More passing doesn't mean more trust. Sometimes more passing means you don't have a balanced offense, so you HAVE to pass. If you can't run, there's literally no other choice lmao
Especially when we have been a run first team ever since we got Josh Jacobs lmao coach has been trying to push this “they don’t trust him to throw” even though he been fine since the bye
Correct. You cant have a josh jacobs and not give him touches. Pack didnt have that many plays total vs lions. Short field td drives, a fumble, and early struggles had alot to do w it.
exactly! hahahaha THEY NEED to adjust with the situations LOL
If you gave all 32 teams the choice between Geno and Love. You'd get 32 teams picking Love. Can Geno win a game against Love? Sure. There is absolutely zero debate on who is a better QB today
Yea this take by Nick isn’t shocking. He is a die on the hill type. It’s all for TV.
In 2 less games Love 21 TDs-11 INTs // Geno 14 TDs-12 INTs
Bruh! Love has out played Stafford against 49ers. And the Packers beat the Rams. Nicks always been a hater. He’s been holding Jordon down on the mountain all season.
I don’t think these dudes actually think before they speak. So because the Seahawks throw more than the packers that means they trust geno more??? Obviously you’re going to pass a bit less when you have the 3rd leading rusher in the league, it’s about balance. It’s like these dudes get up here to look stupid for fun 😂
And the best part Love is only 26. You can have 34 yr old Geno Smith who has already played as good as he will ever play.
Honestly, f*** the "JLove getting the Jalen Hurts treatment". It's called having a BALANCED offense and utilizing the 3rd best running back in the NFL (and who's been responsible for half of the team's TDs in the last few weeks).
The best analogy I have for this is Josh Allen's passing stats when he transitioned from Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady; he was passing less, but it was because they were smartly utilizing the run game and becoming more EFFICIENT in the passing game.
At this point, I'm convinced Mangini is just hating on JLove. 🤬
On a separate note, I can tell that Nick has his own biases toward him as well: I mean, he has GENO SMITH on the same tier as him: JLo has 22TD 11INT while playing hobbled for half the season and missing 3 games while Geno has 14TD-12INT with FAR MORE passing attempts this season...
Had to repeat this because of all the recent JLo hate on FTF, and I'm glad you caught it too.
Love your content as always though, Julian :)
Nick’s takes are so skewed… idk how he still has a gig
It’s because of his long luscious locks, obviously.
Seahawks no running game = more pass attempts for Geno! How is that hard to grasp?! This is an unreal take 😂😂
Love > Geno, there is no discussion. Clowns
Geno or Jordan Love??? WTF??? Is it a real question??? 😂😂😂 Geno is not even in the same category of course 😂😂😂 Nick Wright just has this absurd crashes with some qbs and simply hates others - so stupid
IF the ref's are honest the Pack wins. NOT like the Lion's game. I watched some of the miscues of the ref's on the Lions /p, game .
As a long time lions fan. The shoe has been on the other foot for at least 20 years. It's wild to be the favorite now.
He’s an idiot bro 1:38 😂😂😂
Yeah that’s an absolutely insane take. So many teams (good teams, mind you) are going run heavy this year and the ones that aren’t either don’t have a good run game or have elite WR duos like JJ and Addison or Chase or Higgins. I don’t understand how you can make such an assumption when they went out of their way to trade for an elite RB and have been consistently trying to run more this season. Has to be rage bait at this point
Throwing more does not lead to more winning.. the best teams have a balanced attack.
Throwing more often means you’re losing.. or it’s a scheme thing..
Listen to BillB.. always talks about how balance is an indicator of winning football.
Throwing more especially leads to losing when you have Jordan Love as your quarterback
Go Pack Go 🧀
As a Seahawks fan I loved the Packers beating the shit out of the Cowboys last year in the playoffs! I haven't watched much of Love but I can't wait to see what he can do against this Macdonalds defense. If looking at the Seahawks defense you need to look after the Bye when they took off after getting rid of Baker and Dodson and trading for Ernest Jones and playing rookie Knight along with just now getting previous starters back from injury. This defense is balling.
When it comes to Geno he has been the most pressured QB in the NFL until these past 2 weeks when they finally got Abraham Lucas RT back from injury and Olu at Center and Lameua at RG have surprisingly made this Oline turn a corner. This last game after working together as a unit with the same guys they gave up zero sacks and had almost 200 yards rushing. All this even after the starting center to begin the season just decided to retire midseason. I am proud of my Hawks and this will be a good test to see where they are as a contender or not. Good Luck on SNF!
Soon as I heard them call him J-Lo I turned that shit off
How can this be serious sports journalism??? Geno Smith??? WTF are we talking about???
Go pack go
Get Nick wright off TV.
Lmao he geno throws the ball more, for 2.5 more ypg😭😭😭these people do not deserve to be on television
on a much higher completion % too
so his average depth of target has gotta be so much less than love. Love stretches the field like few in the NFL
@ facts they left off yards per attempt and epa per play for a reason😂😂
GopackGo
JLove has had a MUCH MUCH MUCH better OL than Geno! Geno has done more with Less than Love.
Do you fans know that a QB with time will perform better than when he's under duress.
Finally, Seattle has 3 new OL starters. OLU took over for Connor who retired, Laumea is now a huge upgrade at RG and Hawks had a 4th string RT starting until RT Lucas returned from a year injury. It's amazing what a decent OL will do for Geno and Seattle's offense.
3 weeks ago vs Zona, Geno was harassed, sacked 5 times and Seattle couldn't run the rock.
Last Sunday, with new upgraded starters gaining some chemistry, Seattle ran for more yards 176 than they had since 2022.
Guess what? Geno was NOT sacked, either! Results 24-30 200+1 TD and no picks. A very efficient managing game.
And that was against the same Zona team!! And it was in Zona's crib! What changed? The OL! Laumea wasn't playing 3 weeks ago, OLU is still learning the center spot with guys, and RT Lucas is still regaining his rookie form and isn't 100% there. But he's better than a 4th stringer. It's all about the OL!!
When Love is harassed which has been far more infrequent than Geno, Love will make poor decisions, throwing against his body, into coverage, etc.
The quality of an OL is PARAMOUNT to a QBs success and up until last week, GB has a far more cohesive OL to run Jacobs, which improves play action and time for Love to make good decisions.
Not sure how football fans watching vids don't understand this simple FACT.
Geno can spin the ball with the best of them and if Seattle harrasses Love like they did to Murray in 2 of 3 weeks, you'll see a disjointed and mistake filled Love!! Murray had 1 pick this season until he faced Seattle.
Love has more UPSIDE! yes, but how they're currently playing it's a wash. Had Love been playing behind this Seattle OL all year, he'd have GARBAGE stats.
And a great running game also benefits the QB. How fans don't understand this and just look at QB stats in a vacuum shows the ignorance of 95% of the posters here.
We shall see on Sunday Night but if Seattle's OL shows the strides it's making after inserting 3 new starters, Geno will show the NFL, he can make good decisions and can spin the rock with the best of them
Hawks 27 - Packers 23
😂😂 Jordan Love hasn't thrown a intercepton in 3 weeks so when Jordan love gets hot like he did in last year playoff game VS Dallas. I guarantee you will love him like Charles Barkley.
Throws the ball more with less TD 😂
Geno has a bad Oline, and that's why he throws it more. They can't run the ball. So yea, he has those numbers with no line.
Nick wright said everything you need to know about this argument. He “trusts” geno more but would rather have love going forward. WHAT?!?! That may have been the dumbest thing I have ever heard. He’s just a love/packer hater. I’m taking love over geno everyday and twice on Sundays.
Geno is a better leader and game manager, it’s Geno all day
JL 👍🏽
Thank you!
And up until last week at Detroit when Love only had 20 pass attempts because the running game was rolling, Love had thrown an interception in EVERY road game this season. Guess what?
During Seattle's 4 game win streak, Seattle has picked off a pass in EVERY game and took 2 of them to the crib for 6!
I would bet that Love will get picked off by this newly energized D and it wouldn't surprise me if it went for 6.
Seattle is flying under the radar and it's all good. Everyone loves the Packers to win and cover. Best bets galore.
If the weathe is clear, Geno will outperform Love, shut y'all up for another week and Seattle wins a burner
Hawks 27 - Packers 23
Geno is better then Sam Darnold and is playing better then love
Question, are we going to look at who Gino played the past 4 games or just say he is 4 - 0 the past 4 games, just saying smh
these guys are clowns its not that they don't trust love throwing josh Jacobs is a beast and the packers share the pie through the team evenly and its a winning formula. These guys are clowns.
You think they trust Love? He was a pick per game player until they lowered his attempts. The guy consistently throws into double coverage... he ain't a star
Love is a interception waiting to happen.. he too reckless throwing the ball
Are you ready for nicks take today about last nights game? 😂 he’s going bash Brock and blame him for everything when Stafford had pretty much the same stats but give all the praise to Stafford! He’s going to brush off the Deebo drop and not say too much about it but if a WR dropped that pass from Mahomes it would be the biggest deal in the world and he would rant on it the whole take!
lol I’ve literally been seething waiting for it. I was listening to Colin and John M last night and I took to the comments to try to talk about the game but no one was on. Haha.
I’ll definitely be bringing it today!
@@JWLSports I blame them both honestly. Stafford played like shit & so did Brock Purdy. He also played like shit. Love him to death, but he was NOT great. However, I am NOT going to hate on the young kid like Nick Wright probably will. I don't think that's right
Yall gotta to remember Geno has about 8 picks on drops and tips. You take that away Geno only has about 8 picks or so. Yall need to start watching these games and learn how to watch these all 22s which tell you the story. Geno gets respect from people who actually know the game of football. Man im taking #7 Geno. He is a better Qb. Yall done fail in love with that one great game against them Cowboys. Tune in on Sunday night and watch what happens.
@ do have an IG?
Purdy lovers are mad we are legit seeing with our own eyes..when the system fails..Purdy fails🤣
Packers will win this.
😂😂😂😂😂 hell no.
I’m a Vikings fan and I hate the packers. But even I know the packers will win 😆
@@mrmidwestguy1496nobody cares who you root for
@@mrmidwestguy1496 after gb loses you frauds are next
@@status7505 WHAT?!?!? Aww gosh darn it, that's all I ever wanted! I was really hoping that someone on youtube would just tell me they cared. I care that others care about my pointless opinion. My day is ruined
So Julian, based on your EYE test of Love and Geno right now and I've studied both Qbs, what does Love do better than Geno?
If you have the balla to respond, I will tell you what Geno does better than Love right now. You NEVER once actually went through the attributes. Straw man, Julian!! 😂
I'll cook ya dude!! No doubt i know more about the analysis. 😂
If I was love I would complain about being called jlo😂
😂 yeah I don’t want that nickname
@JWLSports I honestly would publicly say don't call me that.. 🤣 but the real jlo got more rings 🤣 she got 6 rings like Brady. 🤣
This is y I don’t look at this show cause this man some shit real talk they need to take his ass off the air point blank he talks dumb
Colin cowherd is wrong for a living. Jordan love is terrible, ur just hyping up shitty ass qb play around the league. These qbs are mentally slow and can't make basic reads without throwing pic after pic.
hawks win by 17
How are theses guys gettin paid too talk on tv it’s called balance and also match ups styles makes fights if yo corners bad or 2nd string playin I mite juss decide to throw more or if yo front 7 not that gud i mite juss run alil more but overall gotta have balance
#GO🦁s
Does Seattle have a good rushing game, do they have a good offensive line? Love is not night and day better than Geno. Better? Maybe, but night and day? No.
Love is a wreckless thrower of the football.. he is a interception waiting to happen
Love isnt special and will never be anything special. Waste of 200 mill. Malik willis could run this offense
If he wasn't special packers would've let him walk and signed him elsewhere
Sorry you are wrong they are turning it down he obviously has less pass attempts over the last 3 weeks because he throws too many pics we all love Jordan but he had to turn the pics down a little bit that is true