A good review from prof. Tate. I never had covid but after vaccination my ME/Fibromyalgia became worse and I developed a lung clot and a unusual heart condition affecting my BP and inducing postural othostatic tachycardia.
I wish to report my observations. I have seen that those who have mRNA appear to be constantly sick. Excess deaths are constantly occurring. All drugs have side effects. I also dropped eating bread as of 2023, when folic acid was introduced. I worked out. I already had lots of foliate, and the introduction of folic acid into bread would create a constant excess in my system. The side effects could be considerable, including cognitive damage.
Great webinar. Can see there is h to do to still so much to do to get closer to GP acceptance of these post viral illnesses, biomarkers, treatments and ultimately cure. I have 2 severely disabled young adult children, housebound with ME. Watching this space closely. Both my kids are desparate to be well and contributing to society again. But neither has even the energy to advocate for themselves. Thankyou Helen Clark Foundation for this webinar.
I'm very impressed and grateful for this comprehensive webinar and the input of all participants. Jenine, your description of LC recovery as "snakes and ladders" was spot on... For the first time today, for me I have heard someone actually state, publicly and emphatically, that with regard to Long Covid services NZ MUST DO BETTER. The official neglect to date has been shameful. It was very interesting to hear the suggestion of AI-assisted diagnosis for long covid victims, because the I believe the dismissal and denial that LC patients have received from the medical community has been very harmful. I was pleased to hear Professor Tate mention neuroligical impacts which it seems to me NZ providers have been particularly resistant to or ignorant of, causing another layer of harm to patients with LC. Thank you all for the valuable input.
Thank goodness...Hopefully GPs will finally acknowledge the real importance of this sickness from affected people like myself and all others that have suffered. Have had covid 3 times and not seeing anything at the end of the tunnel and LC over and over I think.Its with me forever. Cheers.
When reporting so called covid infections, please let us know if you got the clot shot, because all I see is people who go the clot shot are sick all the time. I did not get the clot shot and I've had nothing wrong with me for the last 20 years, not even the flu.
Children's Health Defence interview reporting that Gain of Function work is being done by the Chinese and US on Bird Flu (just as they did with covid 19). It was said 10% - 15% of sufferers will die so will be more serious than covid 19. As a Long Covid sufferer I find this possibility very frightening as I am nearly 80yrs old and have been diagnosed with Primary Immune Deficiency. I did not have jabs as I was suspicious of covid 19 and jabs which was proved by witnessing so many folk affected by it.
I was very ill with covid in icu when it first arrived , it has slowed me down terribly, I have painful joint ache now , I’m tired a lot , NO it is not taken anywhere near seriously enough I have not had a single call or letter to ask how I’m doing , I had good care in hospital, but since then NOTHING
I would suggest that anyone has long covid fatigue symptoms, change your diet. Remove carbohydrates. Is long covid in the mRNA injected or the ones who are not?
Why is 'long Covid' only affecting the vaccinated ? Are you still recommending to Vaccinate 6 month old babies & Pregnant mothers with the Pfizer experimental Mnra serum ?
I did ask our Dr to consider LDnaltrexone for a while, in case it helped and sent him a paper on it....he just relied that that was not a treatment for LC and would not help except if the patient was drinking alcohol a lot! Why are we paying for GP's who do not even know much about this stuff. It is very disheartening.
Dang, I missed it - sent questions in beforehand though. My husband is affected by LC - 4 months since his first positive Covid test (RAT) and he just can't get back to energy levels anywhere near normal...18 or so symptoms inc light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, aches, sick feeling in gut when tired (every few hours)...etc etc. We have in his family line, a history of several people with ME/CFS - 12 years for one person and 28 for another, and distance maternal cousin and her sone - affected for many year.
Gosh - if 8.5 k of people were blocked due to wrong information about vaccine injury - this in itself is interesting and important to know for future public health messages - and mental health responses - what causes such wrong info - I have long wondered if traumatisation in early life produces mistrust - etc etc...
And unfortunately one step further, these weren't simply 'misinformation' messages - they were harmful and hateful. Blocking only used when comments become nasty, hate filled rhetoric. The lack of comms around vaccines has left a huge window for mistrust to fall into.
If high amount of IgM occur,and if cryoglobuline effect also, increasing blood viscousity ,may be NAC(N acetylcisteine) can be useful ( but avoiding overdosage)?
To confirm do research Dr. Kary Mullis inventor of PCR, research not diagnostic tool , for which he received Nobel Peace Prize. He said in 1993 it could diagnose nothing particularly corona viruses. He also said Anthony Fauci was a criminal. Dr. Mullis , conveniently for THEM, died on 7th August 2019.
But did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate ? Why ? Because at TWiV 659 at min29 Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature (34C). Theoretically if we mitigate SARS COV2 infection,may be risk of long Covid diminish . May be use of antipiretic analgezic drugs if SARS COV2 infection occur,it is not the best choice ?
I know the question period is over, but how does one know if they have LC or post vaccine related injury or illness? I got covid shortly after receiving the vaccine, so I’m not sure why I have these symptoms (2 years later and still not well). My USA Dr says there are no protocols or cures to help me.
Unfortunately, there are no diagnostic tests to tell if someone has it. It is mainly symptomatic. However, certain biomarkers will give indication as well simply being infected and not recovering fully. To counter your doctor, he is right. There are no known cures, but protocols are being used. Dr Bruce Paterson and Dr's from the FLCCC. FLCCC has a lot of information worth looking at. Also, the vaccine itself has huge potential to cause problems (now being proven). Check Vejon Health to get the latest info concerning vaccine effects, among other things.
Yet the doctors are giving a middle-aged family member another shot of the Vac. This is supposed to clear out some lingering Covid remains in the gut! He has had at least five vacs/boosters and has had Covid twice. Now a debilitated man long term.
My heart goes out to all of those who are ill. This is very real and debilitating for them regardless of the cause. They are also caught in a web of confusion between the medical establishment, and those who have disagree and think a large part of it is due to the jabs. The gamut of opinion is quite wide, which tells me there is too much propaganda, lies, and cover up happening. It also shows us that as a global culture we have so much more to learn in the area of medicine and especially infectious diseases. The average doctor really doesn’t specialize in this area and has little training in it. The level of fear and anxiety that was created in 2020 onward is likely partially responsible. I had an acquaintance call me one day and he ranted for almost 30 minutes about why the authorities we’re not doing “even more” to control the virus. (in hindsight, most of the restrictions were not necessary now that we have more information)This person was almost insane with fear, frustration and anger and had not been out of their house for months, except for necessary grocery runs. Distress in the body is so toxic and responsible for many illnesses. If we don’t learn to have these difficult conversations and look at ALL the facts, the truth will remain hidden and millions will continue to suffer needlessly. Censorship and control will not help and will create even more distrust.
The spike protein can still cause micro clots. Which is long Covid. The vaccine causes more because there are pieces of the spike protein which causes antibodies to adhere to all sides of the spike instead of just to the easily accessible point side when still attached in the corona.
Trust God lean not on your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. God is coming soon put your life in God's hands and trust him.
How can maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature, If thermogenesis are weakened by different causes ? May be surgical mask wearing not only stop droplets,but also maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature ?
Dr Bruce Arrol is a strong promoter of Lightening Process - (see the recent Goodfellow Unit March 2024 symposium. Health pathways also seems to promote LProcess for teens - go have a look.
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A good review from prof. Tate. I never had covid but after vaccination my ME/Fibromyalgia became worse and I developed a lung clot and a unusual heart condition affecting my BP and inducing postural othostatic tachycardia.
I wish to report my observations. I have seen that those who have mRNA appear to be constantly sick. Excess deaths are constantly occurring. All drugs have side effects. I also dropped eating bread as of 2023, when folic acid was introduced. I worked out. I already had lots of foliate, and the introduction of folic acid into bread would create a constant excess in my system. The side effects could be considerable, including cognitive damage.
Great webinar. Can see there is h to do to still so much to do to get closer to GP acceptance of these post viral illnesses, biomarkers, treatments and ultimately cure.
I have 2 severely disabled young adult children, housebound with ME. Watching this space closely. Both my kids are desparate to be well and contributing to society again. But neither has even the energy to advocate for themselves. Thankyou Helen Clark Foundation for this webinar.
I'm very impressed and grateful for this comprehensive webinar and the input of all participants. Jenine, your description of LC recovery as "snakes and ladders" was spot on... For the first time today, for me I have heard someone actually state, publicly and emphatically, that with regard to Long Covid services NZ MUST DO BETTER. The official neglect to date has been shameful. It was very interesting to hear the suggestion of AI-assisted diagnosis for long covid victims, because the I believe the dismissal and denial that LC patients have received from the medical community has been very harmful. I was pleased to hear Professor Tate mention neuroligical impacts which it seems to me NZ providers have been particularly resistant to or ignorant of, causing another layer of harm to patients with LC. Thank you all for the valuable input.
Thank goodness...Hopefully GPs will finally acknowledge the real importance of this sickness from affected people like myself and all others that have suffered. Have had covid 3 times and not seeing anything at the end of the tunnel and LC over and over I think.Its with me forever. Cheers.
Did you get vaccinated?
When reporting so called covid infections, please let us know if you got the clot shot, because all I see is people who go the clot shot are sick all the time. I did not get the clot shot and I've had nothing wrong with me for the last 20 years, not even the flu.
8 heat attacks , 2 strokes , 1 Cancer in my small street in 3 years ... All Vaxed , The unvaxed not even a cold ?
Children's Health Defence interview reporting that Gain of Function work is being done by the Chinese and US on Bird Flu (just as they did with covid 19). It was said
10% - 15% of sufferers will die so will be more serious than covid 19. As a Long Covid sufferer I find this possibility very frightening as I am nearly 80yrs old and have been diagnosed with Primary Immune Deficiency. I did not have jabs as I was suspicious of covid 19 and jabs which was proved by witnessing so many folk affected by it.
I was very ill with covid in icu when it first arrived , it has slowed me down terribly, I have painful joint ache now , I’m tired a lot , NO it is not taken anywhere near seriously enough I have not had a single call or letter to ask how I’m doing , I had good care in hospital, but since then NOTHING
I would suggest that anyone has long covid fatigue symptoms, change your diet. Remove carbohydrates. Is long covid in the mRNA injected or the ones who are not?
Why is 'long Covid' only affecting the vaccinated ? Are you still recommending to Vaccinate 6 month old babies & Pregnant mothers with the Pfizer experimental Mnra serum ?
So many thoughtless people by sounds of it, 🎉not only dealing with being sick, its a double whammy of sickness, sickness of the mind!❤🎉🎉🎉
I did ask our Dr to consider LDnaltrexone for a while, in case it helped and sent him a paper on it....he just relied that that was not a treatment for LC and would not help except if the patient was drinking alcohol a lot! Why are we paying for GP's who do not even know much about this stuff. It is very disheartening.
Dang, I missed it - sent questions in beforehand though. My husband is affected by LC - 4 months since his first positive Covid test (RAT) and he just can't get back to energy levels anywhere near normal...18 or so symptoms inc light sensitivity, noise sensitivity, aches, sick feeling in gut when tired (every few hours)...etc etc. We have in his family line, a history of several people with ME/CFS - 12 years for one person and 28 for another, and distance maternal cousin and her sone - affected for many year.
Gosh - if 8.5 k of people were blocked due to wrong information about vaccine injury - this in itself is interesting and important to know for future public health messages - and mental health responses - what causes such wrong info - I have long wondered if traumatisation in early life produces mistrust - etc etc...
And unfortunately one step further, these weren't simply 'misinformation' messages - they were harmful and hateful. Blocking only used when comments become nasty, hate filled rhetoric. The lack of comms around vaccines has left a huge window for mistrust to fall into.
If high amount of IgM occur,and if cryoglobuline effect also, increasing blood viscousity ,may be NAC(N acetylcisteine) can be useful ( but avoiding overdosage)?
Did you use the fake pcr test😂😂😂
To confirm do research Dr. Kary Mullis inventor of PCR, research not diagnostic tool , for which he received Nobel Peace Prize. He said in 1993 it could diagnose nothing particularly corona viruses. He also said Anthony Fauci was a criminal. Dr. Mullis , conveniently for THEM, died on 7th August 2019.
Thank you for this
But did we know at what tissue temperature did SARS COV2 better replicate ?
Why ?
Because at TWiV 659 at min29 Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at very low tissue temperature (34C).
Theoretically if we mitigate SARS COV2 infection,may be risk of long Covid diminish .
May be use of antipiretic analgezic drugs if SARS COV2 infection occur,it is not the best choice ?
I know the question period is over, but how does one know if they have LC or post vaccine related injury or illness? I got covid shortly after receiving the vaccine, so I’m not sure why I have these symptoms (2 years later and still not well). My USA Dr says there are no protocols or cures to help me.
Unfortunately, there are no diagnostic tests to tell if someone has it. It is mainly symptomatic. However, certain biomarkers will give indication as well simply being infected and not recovering fully.
To counter your doctor, he is right. There are no known cures, but protocols are being used. Dr Bruce Paterson and Dr's from the FLCCC. FLCCC has a lot of information worth looking at.
Also, the vaccine itself has huge potential to cause problems (now being proven). Check Vejon Health to get the latest info concerning vaccine effects, among other things.
Long co-vid = the elephant in the room, the co-vid clot shots.
Try using nattokinase
Or eat Natto takes getting used to..the taste is weird and texture, slimy
It's a herd of elephants...Yet many still can't see the truth
Yet the doctors are giving a middle-aged family member another shot of the Vac. This is supposed to clear out some lingering Covid remains in the gut! He has had at least five vacs/boosters and has had Covid twice. Now a debilitated man long term.
My heart goes out to all of those who are ill. This is very real and debilitating for them regardless of the cause. They are also caught in a web of confusion between the medical establishment, and those who have disagree and think a large part of it is due to the jabs. The gamut of opinion is quite wide, which tells me there is too much propaganda, lies, and cover up happening. It also shows us that as a global culture we have so much more to learn in the area of medicine and especially infectious diseases. The average doctor really doesn’t specialize in this area and has little training in it.
The level of fear and anxiety that was created in 2020 onward is likely partially responsible. I had an acquaintance call me one day and he ranted for almost 30 minutes about why the authorities we’re not doing “even more” to control the virus. (in hindsight, most of the restrictions were not necessary now that we have more information)This person was almost insane with fear, frustration and anger and had not been out of their house for months, except for necessary grocery runs. Distress in the body is so toxic and responsible for many illnesses.
If we don’t learn to have these difficult conversations and look at ALL the facts, the truth will remain hidden and millions will continue to suffer needlessly. Censorship and control will not help and will create even more distrust.
The spike protein can still cause micro clots. Which is long Covid. The vaccine causes more because there are pieces of the spike protein which causes antibodies to adhere to all sides of the spike instead of just to the easily accessible point side when still attached in the corona.
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Trust God lean not on your own understanding in all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. God is coming soon put your life in God's hands and trust him.
They are not believers in reality, reality sucks!!🎉
How can maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature, If thermogenesis are weakened by different causes ?
May be surgical mask wearing not only stop droplets,but also maintain higher mucouseal respiratory temperature ?
At TWiV 659 at min29 Christian Drosten suggest that SARS COV2 better replicate at ( 34- 35C)low tissue temperature.
Dr Bruce Arrol is a strong promoter of Lightening Process - (see the recent Goodfellow Unit March 2024 symposium. Health pathways also seems to promote LProcess for teens - go have a look.
It's highly dangerous and has made several people worse.
'promo sm' 💥
God came that we might have life and life more abundance. Our healer. Draw close to Jesus Christ and he will draw near to you. Fear not God says, I have not given you a spirit of fear but love peace and soundness of mind. Some have a form of Godliness but denying the power there of.😊