CLONE COMMANDER OBI-WAN KENOBI IS OVERRATED! Star Wars Black Series Average Figures #2
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It’s not that bad guys, I just had to swap the Attack of the Clones head on it, swap the lightsaber, and put it on the 2023 Clone body and now it’s great!
LMAOOOOOO
Yeah.....but the articulation still really bad.
@@juandiegobelloherrera5955 MrCawfee was being sarcastic. -Justin
Great new intro!! 🔥 Also, i ended up making my own using an extra 2020 phase 1 clone i scooped from Ross for like $5.99, and the Wandering Jedi Kenobi figure. Cheap and easy Kitbash that does a good enough job for me for this look.
Great video, thanks for sharing! Much Love, and MTFBWY!
Nice kitbash! Appreciate your support. -Justin
tartikovsky is my favorite piece of star wars content ever made so id love to see more from it in general. great video guys!
Oh 100%! I want more. Thanks for watching, dude! -Justin
It's a new bloody Intro!! Good Grief..
Pour yourself some blue milk, Davey! -Justin
@@OutOfTheBasement I'm absolutely certain this is not "a thing" in Englandlandlandshire!!
Not the bloody blue milk 😂
@@davidedge2828 Steer clear of that unholy blue satanic cow milk. Poor Aunt Beru milking those smelly Banthas the same way Luke milked that thing in The Last Jedi movie, Luke watched Aunt Beru to figure out how it's done. 🤢
@@bodiecollectionYes! The blue milk flies?/flys? now! 😅
Horrible articulation ✅
Inaccurate head ✅
Still one of my favorite figures in the line ✅
Love it 😂
" good looking from afar, but far from good looking "
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Would be cool to have one just to say you have one. But honestly at this point just buy a new clone body, a flexible resin (or soft goods) cape, and a fodder or resin Obi-Wan head and you’ve got a massively superior figure for a relatively cheap price
It's just hard to kitbash because you need the sculpted "puck" shaped things that hold the cloak in place on the front part of the torso. -Justin
@@OutOfTheBasement3D printer 👀
It’s a nice looking figure, but I’ve never had an interest in owning it for all the reasons you guys listed out and for its steep price. Honestly tempted to kitbash my own using the new 2023 P1 and one of the Obi show figures, it’ll end up looking better and be more posable as a Jedi should be
Dew it! -Justin
One of the first Black Series I got when I started collecting, along with newly released Tarkin, and a handful of Rogue One (Krennic, Jyn, Cassian).
There were 3 of these guys still at my Walmart. I was able to look at each one and for the face with the least amount of blush. It took a little while after four the other 2 to go and leave behind peg warming 3PO (silver leg), and Kanan.
And I fully agree. I'm glad I got him when I did, I would never have spent even current retail back then (I think $18 then?)
It looks cool on the shelf but I have never gotten him posed how I want.
And the lightsaber is so lose in his grip! I just recently have him one of the extra sabers from one of the extra Kenobi show Obi-Wan I had... and it fits much better
Mine is in storage somewhere still in his sealed red/black box because i found him while we were moving, just never opened him. They could do a redo on this on the new buck- shouldn't he also have come with a Phase 1 helmet? Could also make it a pack in with a BARC speeder and a javelin
He should've came with a helmet, yeah. -Justin
It would be so easy for them to remake this figure and actually do it justice 😭
For real! I wish they would. It’d be a banger at this point. Thanks for watching! -Nate
I think the reason ive never overpayed despite how much i want it, is the old body
Yeah that old body is rooooough. -Justin
Even switching the head is a hassle since the necks are different. Love the idea of the figure, the figure itself is still meh. Glad I didn’t have to pay today prices for it
Yeah I agree! -Justin
IT'S NOT A TOY!! I'M A GROWN MAN AND I DON'T COLLECT TOYS TO PUT ON SHELFS!!
This figure is fine if you swap the head around, bath it in acetone, get a new cape and swap the body with a new 23 body. Swap the accessories and buy a new 3d printed custom belt piece and the figure is absolutely perfect. You two don't know what you're talking about.
You tell them David 👍
@@theperceptor9287I will Tom!! 😅
Great video! I always enjoy your videos, but this one was on another level with Nate repping Behemoth 👍
Would getting both clone wars anakin and obi-wan at $60 each be a good price at this point in the after market?
i cant it cheaper and i really want them
I never give advice on what something is "worth" because I personally almost never pay over retail for any Black Series (or Hasbro in general) figure. -Justin
Hey first time commenting on your guys vids, what would you consider the Walmart captain Fordo?
Definitely average! They could’ve easily made him more accurate. -Justin
I'm still glad I have this one, jumping around to different Walgreens back when it came out to finally find one.
Let's bring back Walgreens exclusives (jkjkjkjk)! -Justin
Out of the Basement, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!
Glad to hear it! Welcome to the community. -Justin
You can probably make a really kit bash custom now with the new body and some soft goods material
True that! -Justin
I remember that the figure was discounted on a sale at walgreens when it came out, and people could get two to get the walgreens free shipping. After that, I never saw it online again.
Dang! -Justin
I got him about four years ago at a toy show in Hickory, NC for $40. I thought it was a good deal at the time when it was going for over $100. It’s been on the shelf ever since then. Lol. Great review.
Thanks for sharing! Take care. -Justin
Found him in a gamestop in Canada by coincidence and picked him up. I honestly prefer him to the RotS Obi-Wan and keep him displayed with my 212th troops. But yeah, just update it to the new clone body and give it AotC Obi's head and maybe his own helmet and call it a day
That's very interesting! I'd love for them to update it on the new body. -Justin
I was only moaning about obi-shinobi figures last night! I must have 11 of the barstards already and still need 5 more releases, including this.
I sold mine early 2023 lol. I stained his cape on accident so mine was a one of a kind haha. Headsculpt is a beauty forsure but we need the mullet !
Gotta get the mullet! -Justin
I kinda dig the fact he’s had a haircut, but still wearing the armour. Like it’s from a story that hasn’t been told yet. I just love the look of it and at the end of the day, General poseability aside, that’s the most important thing
Personally I'd rather get what we actually see on screen. -Justin
I passed on this due to the after-market price, and got the superior version. I didn't know what a blaster bolt I dodged until now!
You made the right move! Thanks for watching Nixl! -Nate
The only thing I have wanted to know is does that head look good on the Revenge of the Sith Obi wan black series figure? I've never seen anyone try it.
The pegs are totally different and require demel work to fit so that’s most likely why you don’t see it happen. Thanks for watching! -Nate
@@OutOfTheBasement thanks for the response and all the great content. Yeah I did a search after I watched your video and found several videos that they did that very thing. I think a kitbash of 3 different Obi wan figures make a really good episode 3 figure. Take that head with upper torso of episode 2 and legs of Archive episode 3 Obi wan makes a great one. But that defeats the purpose of just being able to buy 1 figure. Hasbro has the parts to make it but we all know the answer to that issue? Come on Hasbro get your act together?!!! 😞😔😔😔
Oh, Nate… A wise master once said: “This weapon is your life.”
First off, nice intro. ;-)
I see the elbow joints on this and oh boy oh boy oh boy… A double-joint elbow with no bicep swivels is a big no-no. Regardless of how many collectors leave their figures in neutral or standard hero poses, a Jedi or Sith that can’t do action poses is not good enough. That’s how much the line has improved yet still makes mistakes outside of scaling. (Padawan Ahsoka and Tyranus being both the best of their respective sides of the Force)
Now, if we were talking overrated by today’s standards? ANH Vader. For the many times they’ve released this buck with the 2014 legs, including the reuse for Kenobi, the International Archive and the A-List… considering Empire, Duel’s End and RotJ.
Those double-jointed arms actually do have bicep swivel. It's just that you can't actually utilzie the double-joints, like at all. -Justin
Overrated? Yes. Is it still nice to have on the shelf? Also yes.
Until the 2023 CT sculpt version comes out, I agree. -Justin
God, I’m so glad i miraculously found mine for $30 on eBay one day, had an ink stain on the cape, so I guess they thought it wasn’t worth the full 9 bajillion dollars. It washed out though.
Even so, I cannot get him to stand correctly. So many times has he dove off the shelf. And because I bought him second hand, he doesn’t even have the triangle stand.
If the rerelease rumor becomes true, I’m buying a second one, and I’m gonna try and kitbash it with a 2023 clone.
$30 isn't a bad price at all for that figure! Thanks for checking out the video. -Justin
Does the blue milk actually have a flavour, or is it still just milk?
It’s vanilla flavored so it takes like a milk shake to me. I love it! -Nate
Great points all around. Wanted this figure so bad back in the day. Glad I got the 2021 CW version instead!
Fully agreed! 2021 CW version is so much better. Thanks for watching, Norsky! -Justin
One thing i did to make mine look better is take a page from Hasbro and photo shop the peg holes on his joints......💀🤪.
He looks cool in a basic pose, but this guy needs a new version with the Mullet and 2023 clone body, and he goes from borderline blunder to instant Banger.
Love the intro, fellas. Until the next one, enjoy that Blue Milk
From blunder to banger for sure! And oooooof that photoshop job. Woof! Thanks for watching as always, Fig. -Justin
For the next black series banger might I recommend Count Dooku. He has one of the best likenesses in the line, appropriate soft goods for the cape, movie accurate paint job and good articulation. Highly underrated figure in my opinion.
Haha I absolutely love this figure! This one was around the same time I think the WM ex Luke Jedi Knight came out and those both had the rouge makeup which was odd. I have a huge soft spot for the Tartovsky CW cartoons so that helps alot with this fig. All critiques however are valid! Another excellent choice for an upgraded Archive version.
I really hope they just redo this figure on the 2023 buck w/ accurate head! -Justin
I love it even tho it is a blunder. I found it when I first started getting into the line heavy. I watched a review and wondered if my walgreens had him. Found 4 that day and bought 2.
Hey you like what you like! Nothing wrong with that. -Justin
Since I own the 2D Clone Wars Walmart figures, I do want this figure; but I rather have one on the 2024 clone body. Love the new intro to the series, another great video.
I really do hope they put one on the new body! -Justin
The only thing I’ll give this figure other than the head is that it got me hardcore black series since I saw this at a Walgreens and bought it on impulse when I was looking for whatever marvel legends exclusive was out at the time
That's worth something! Thanks for watching, Cornholio. -Justin
guys this figures not that bad i just had to buy a 3d printed kit and the new 2023 p1 clone trooper to fix it that's all
Lmao it’s so simple! Thanks for watching! -Nate
I love it. Combines two of my favourit. Jedi and clones. I got it from Forbidden planet here in London England
Needs to be on a better body with an accurate head. -Justin
"Bangers, Blunders, Midders...Overrated figures" Thats Bars right there 😂
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@@OutOfTheBasement 😂🤣
That head sculpt is fire! It would be great for a different Kenobi body!
I think what makes some figures overrated is not a problem with the figure but a lack of supporting characters to use in a diorama or to just enjoy playing with. Some many characters have been ignored in the modern lines you cant make a good representation of most scenes in the the shows.
Thanks for watching, Kevin! -Justin
It’s not that bad guys. I just had to pop the head off, put the attack of the clones head on, and then I had to switch it to the 2023 clone trooper body and now it’s perfect
😡😤🤬😖😠
Can the soft goods of the figure be changed to the better clone body, or is it too much of a hassle? And I understand that the necks are different, right?
I didn’t pay over retail…,thrice,…for this clone commander. I never knew there was 2-D animation showing him with a mullet until you mentioned it a few years back from the time of this message and now. Nevertheless, I still like the aesthetics and for me, it doesn’t ruin it.
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(Smiling): I just wish you would have warned me/us before you showed that cartoon still picture.
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See, I didn’t play “mental gymnastics“
I mean as inbox collector like most of the issues don't really apply to me but the price for incorrect piece fook that.
Even as an in-box collector, it's still a completely wrong figure with the head. -Justin
Another kinda like this (except nobody is claiming this as a grail) is Moloch. What is good about him is really good, but what is bad is really bad.
I can see that! -Justin
I'm furiously edging to this video. This is my jam.
It is a nice looking figure and i dont really mind the wrong head. It is very expensive nowadays tho and as a customizer its not that hard to get a good obi wan head and just customize a nice new clone body. Getting the cape identical to the original figure would be hard but it doesnt have to be identical
Of course anyone can customize a figure and make it better, but that isn't the point. -Justin
As usual great take and we'll done . Keep up the great work 🎉
Appreciate your support, Troy! -Justin
The head sculpt is the best part of it, from someone who has been collecting sw figures for 25 years that’s why it is sauté after so much period
2008 CW Obi-Wan still has a pretty good head. -Justin
I remember wanting this a lot, and I kinda considered it the quintessential Obi-Wan... then the Clone Wars one released, and _it_ became the quintessential Obi-wan.
It feels like this was a figure put together from memory... close to quitting time. Like, in isolation, it's a decent figure, but the head and articulation just isn't fitting for the source material.
Oh yeah, 100% agreed. 2008 Clone Wars Obi-Wan is THE Obi-Wan of the Black Series. -Justin
CC Obi used to be a grail of mine for the shortest time, that is until I got my hands on the 2008 3D Clone Wars Obi.
Such a better figure! -Justin
BUT I HAVE ( 2. ) OF THEM....and I could have had 3 but I didn't wanna overdo it..
Naw go for 3! -Justin
You guys aren't nuts. I really like your honest take on these figures. Much appreciated.
We appreciate that! -Justin
I’ve been trying to get this one for a good price for a while, but now that we have a way better clone body I kinda stopped trying to get this one! Great video
Appreciate you checking it out, Benjamin! -Justin
Thanks for the heads up. This was a grail... now not so much.
You bet! You can still enjoy it and have it as a grail though. Don't let us ruin all the fun. -Justin
Digging the intro, great job guys
Much appreciated! -Justin
This came out before I was into the line. I remember seeing the box and getting excited by the name be the 03 series is what got me into the franchise, immediately lost interest when I noticed there was no mullet lol
WE NEED THE MULLET
Got this on eBay in a bundle with CW mace and Fordo for $65, and yeah it’s definitely not a great figure, but I’m happy to have it in the collection. Also not to be super nit picky but I don’t think the saber you showed in the video was the one that came with this figure, I don’t remember the hilt looking like that, or being quite that bendy. But my figure is packed up now so I can’t check, so I might be wrong.
I was wondering if someone would've noticed that! After we shot, took photos, edited, etc. I did realize that it isn't the original Obi saber. I have so many Obi-Wans that I actually gave him one of the better hilts/blades. -Justin
@@OutOfTheBasement nice, yeah mine broke too so it’s definitely an issue, But that’s why I remember very specifically what that saber hilt looked like lol
The lightsaber is also the wrong hilt, he should have his TPM/AotC one, not the RotS one.
Good point! Thanks for watching! -Nate
This is unfortunate. I really like the Tartakovsky CW show. Maybe I can kitbash this figure with the new clone and an old Kenobi head and cloak. It won’t be the same, but it would probably be cheaper. Plus this was one of my grails unfortunately. Emphasis on was.
It might just be cheaper! It's just hard to kitbash because you need the sculpted "puck" shaped things that hold the cloak in place on the front part of the torso. -Justin
I absolutely agree here, he is not at all worth the after market prices.
I only wanted this figure back in the day because it was the first Obi Wan to get an updated face. I never picked this one up but luckily Hasbro released more and better Obi Wans then this
Thanks for watching! -Justin
I like to watch you guys together because it’s obvious you guys are BFF’s, Boyz, ridaz 4 life! 😂
Appreciate the support! -Justin
This is one of those figures that I always wanted but could never find, even though I've never seen that version of the Clone Wars I still really like the look of it. It's such a shame that they used that outdated body for the figure and that they continue to use it to this day.
I really hope they redo this one! I love the design. Thanks for checking out the video, David! -Justin
@@OutOfTheBasement No problem! I'd love a redo of this one on the 2023 Clone body it would actually be a good figure then.
To bad we did not get him in the clone wars Tartakovsky’s card back with totally updated parts
I'd get that! -Justin
That old clone buck is so terrible & has to be one of worst figs or the worst in the line considering how many figs came out using that body, defo need an updated fig for that obi wan & some clones too using the 2023 body, time to bin that old body lol great vid as always
Appreciate you watching, Apollo! -Justin
Need this on the new body with the AotC head
I always love Nate's band shirts. Love Behemoth!
Thank you! They are one of my favorite bands! -Nate
I've been wanting this figure because I really enjoyed the 2d Clone Wars. BUT, it's not a grail for me by any means. Great video, fellas!
Yeah I'm glad to have it for $19.99 but those aftermarket prices are just...oof. Thanks for watching, Matt! -Justin
I'm guessing Hasbro had a bunch of 2013s left over and just swapped out the heads to get rid of them.
That's not how it works. They would've all been fresh production runs. -Justin
kinda happy somebody has finally admitted the obi-wan isn't too great.
IMO, i feel everybody got hyped (including myself) about this figure due to the obi-wan head and the capabilities of using this head on perfecting an Ep 3 Obi-wan and somewhere the message of the greatness of the head got confused with the figure as a whole and now the community just loves a relatively bad figure.
Totally agreed! -Justin
I didn't realise it was on the old clone body I haven't bought this bought been on my wanted list think I will just still with my other clone wars obi wan thanks guys
Appreciate you! -Justin
When I started collecting in 2020, this was definitely one of my grails, but I 100% agree with you - this figure is trash (by current standards). Once I got the Disney clone wars version of Obi-Wan (which I had to buy on eBay because it was non-existent at my local targets) that became my favorite version of Obi-Wan and I no longer wanted this one. Now I can't imagine buying this with those HORRIBLE PINNED DOUBLE ELBOWS that can't even hit 45 degrees. I would like to see an updated version of this figure though.
That's my favorite version of Obi-Wan as well! I would love it if they redid this one though (on the new clone sculpt). Thanks for watching, Kaleb! -Justin
You guys just don't understand why this is such a banger of a figure. You just gotta remember that these literal actual children's toys are actually 💥i n v e s t m e n t s💥 and provided hasbro never rereleases or releases an actual good version of this figure, then I'll be able to sell all 500 of these I bought and buy myself a beach house.
(Just because there are actually people who genuinely act like this, this is a joke btw)
Lmaoooo you almost had me for a second there! -Nate
18000 congratulations. You guys are great to watch.
Thanks so much! -Justin
You had your Record player on the wrong speed for the INTRO.......
'Sail Barge Dance' was actually not pitch-shifted at all! -Justin
Blue milk intro was so awesome!!! 👏
Thanks dude! -Justin
loving the new intro 🥛
Thanks dude! -Justin
I missed out on this figure when it was released and now I'm glad I did!
Nice! -Justin
I think it’s a great fig for its time .. But I do remember you guys saying how great it was when you first picked him up lol ..
Yep, opinions can change! Thanks for watching! -Nate
This is so true ….
Had I not lucked up on an eBay auction for $42 I would not own this. I agree out of all the figures I own this body is the worst for articulation but…..collecting 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for watching, Jonathan! -Justin
I think the reason i like the look of- and never was able to get.. him.
Is a good looking figure is because of the older 3.75 one.. which was dogshit AWFUL LOL
I sold that off years ago because it just didn't match any of my other figures (clones)
Thanks for checking out the video! -Justin
Great video fellas! People ain’t gonna like this one… but alas, it’s the truth! The old Clone body is terrible and those inaccurate details can’t be looked past. I feel like people are more in love with the idea of this figure rather than the figure itself. It’s really cool to see an Ewan McGregor likeness on a 2003 Clone Wars style Obi Wan, but that doesn’t make the figure good! While I do like this outfit more the 08 TCW Obi Wan is for sure an infinitely better figure!
THEY'RE NOT READY FOR THE TRUTH! -Justin
This is a Hasbro issue. They're not in the business of manufacturing high quality collectibles that so many adults buy. They are in the business of cost cutting, mass produced, cheaply made, low quality children's toys.
You get what pay for, in that regard. It's why I no longer collect domestic brand figures, because they're made with materials ment for children to play with. And the manufacturing process is designed to save money, not produce a quality product.
Yeah naw we love tons of Black Series figures, lol. -Justin
Enjoy them. I'm happy for you.
Outdated articulation
Inaccurate but great head
Still my favorite character and an okay version of the figure, I was lucky enough to find it in Walgreens after school in 2019.
Appreciate you checking out the video, Jordan! -Justin
I mean they had to use the shorter hair cut so his clone helmet that he doesn’t come with could fit.
I mean...if it actually came with the helmet I might buy this excuse. Lol! -Justin
That would be nice if they actually bothered to include a helmet.
They didn't.
I was just thinking how nice woud it be to own this and then you guys drop this .😂
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But those clone wars Anakin and obi wan where impossible to find for most people including me
Right but the point of that part of the video is that 3D Clone wars Obi is cheaper on the aftermarket and is a much better figure. Thanks for watching! -Nate
@@OutOfTheBasement those two badly need a reissue because they never showed up near me but I didn't agree with you about the quality
Not hating on you guys, actually agree with your opinion regarding articulation and accuracy but yet it remains one of my favorite figs in the black series. Always enjoy your content even when you’re shitting on one of my favorite figs 😂
That's the beauty of RUclips, Brian! We can all disagree and still get along. It's just putting our opinion out there for the world to see. We all share our thoughts. Appreciate your support! -Justin
Nice new intro guys‼️👌 Also can we please please stop reusing the 2013 body? Just get rid of it! Nothing older then 2020 on🙏
Throw that 2013 mold in the trash! -Justin
More like Black Metal with that Behemoth shirt lol
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Men, I always thought the exact same thing!!!!!
Great minds think alike! -Justin
That sweet, sweet ragebait algo!
This is fiddling with the Dark side of YT!!
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That is you guys opinion, not everyone feels and think like you do ..
Hello Nate and Justin, to answer your question, yes you are both nuts. LoL 😂
I honestly have no opinion on this figure because I've never managed to get either of these versions of Obi-Wan from Clone Wars. They are both too expensive at this time so I don't have to own them. I'd rather have the Target exclusive version if I could find him at a decent price.
Thanks for sharing your opinions on this version of Obi-Wan Kenobi and putting this video together for us, I appreciate it. I'll catch you guys later. Take care, Tom
PS: I'm sorry but that blue milk looks disgusting. 🤢
You wanna get nuts? Lets get nuts! -Batman
@@OutOfTheBasement Where does he get such wonderful toys ?-Joker 🃏
Oh that's right, from BBTS-Tom
Yes, this figure is grossly overrated. It’s only the clone trooper body, which is its biggest sin, in my opinion. Of course it was a Walgreens exclusive, and it’s availability issues really but the main reason it so sought after I think.
Thanks for watching, Jeremy! -Justin
I still want him even I been looking for him
Hopefully they just redo him! -Justin
@@OutOfTheBasement I hope so cross my fingers
It's not that bad. Just keep it in the box.
That still doesn’t help with the inaccurate head sculpt. Thanks for watching! -Nate