According to a interview with Kakehasi MC8 despite costing a fortune and not many sold was for Roland very important as it enabled Roland to take significant steps in technology advancement Kakehasi said. Some more MC8 background and rare late 1970 photos etc web search for: "Exclusive Interview with RALPH DYCK, Godfather of the MC-8!" YMO approved Alex song as a genuine YMO style song just minutes ago.
I was fortunate enough to work with the YMO in the early 80's. In addition to the musicians in the studio there were 3 or 4 engineers from Roland present who continually built, patched and tinkered with all kinds of wild & wonderful prototypes. They spoke no English, we spoke no Japanese so much hilarity ensued on a daily basis over decoding sign language!
Yes, the development in microprocessors and cheeper memory made all that possible. It's really fantastic really, what we have been experiencing during our lifetime! Home computers (VIC 64, Sinclair 81....), mobile phones, portable music (tape players, CD.-players and MP3-players), Internet, the whole digitization era really. And now we are entering the development and testing of AI.
EVERYBODY, save this video! Any time you get frustrated with your DAW's limitations just open up the Tubes and play this back. Reset. Doesn't that make you feel better? I'm still marveling that you only fucked up once inputting that bass line, Alex. You're the man; and one helluva mimic. Long live Yellow Magic Orchestra!
I've used DAWs to make music a lot, but I really learned to make music on my MC-303 and, despite it being 1000x more powerful than this machine, I learned that those limitations make me write better music almost every time. DAWless is really just about cutting out the chaff and just focusing on the music. That is what is so wonderful about these old machines. Edit: Not entirely true, I started with Mario Paint and then a cracked version of Fruity Loops someone gave me on a burned CD.
I like what Tomita wrote about the MC-8 in 1978, on the sleeve notes for 'The Bermuda Triangle': "For the past year I have struggled with a computer - a micro computer. I say "struggled" because a computer is beautifully precise, but I wanted it to produce musical results - in other words, as a musical instrument. How could this keyboard of only ten keys compare with that of a grand piano? But I came to realize that those ten keys could produce an almost limitless number of combinations, each of which is a signal that could determine a characteristic of sound: pitch, texture, attack time, duration, loudness. And the computer can be programmed to change any or all of these features with incredible speed. The computer thus produces a sequence of signals that control the sound production of a synthesizer. It is something like millions of little hands rapidly changing all the synthesizer connections to produce a vast variety of sounds. My musical images must be coded by numbers to direct those hands to manipulate the synthesizer. I build layers of sound by programming the computer. These are recorded one by one on separate tracks of a tape machine and finally all mixed together for the end result. I consider myself a sound animator, much the same as an animator of film cartoons. I have used my computer in creating practically all the pieces contained in this album. It is made in Japan by Roland - model MC-8 - and is perhaps the best in the world with regard to memory capacity and accuracy. Although I cannot walk onto a stage and have the joy of struggling to perform my music before an audience, I struggle to select the right numbers on my computer to build a creative entity that displays my musical personality."
I once played a gig in 1988 where I had to load in drum samples to a Casio RZ1 (4 x 0.2 seconds) from a cassette. The gap was covered by a 2 minute “link” tune on tape. It took 2 minutes and had never failed in rehearsal… but on the gig night, I got a screen message “Load failed”. Panic. Sweat. I had to play all the tracks from the pre-recorded links tape to the end and try a reload. Fortunately the samples loaded a couple of seconds before there would have been total silence. Panic over and rewind the links tape back to its intended place. Primitive days indeed!
Nothing but respect for those brilliant folks who actually made music with these things. I've never felt so dumb and bewildered watching someone make music with a num pad.
This project is wonderful! By the way, for my music, I operated the MC-4. Hideki Matsutake (who was said to be the fourth YMO member) I won the award for excellence in the show's contest.
I first discovered YMO when I was 16 and I'm now 61. Went to see them live in London in 1980. It was amazing. You could have made a video of how they folded their underpants and I would watch it. Thanks Alex for the tribute to such a fantastic band. RIP Ryuichi and Yukihiro.
YMO live at the Greek Theater is legit my favorite live performance ever. I love that they've been getting more attention lately and I love seeing this insight into their groundbreaking composition!
I still have nightmares of volatile memory 45 years later. Wrote my first soundtrack on a MC8 , System 700, Jupiter 8 , and an 808. Unbelievably stressful.
@@AlexBallMusic nothing special , student film. I was in tech school at the time and that was the synth lab. Jupiter pre midi btw .. Actually the mc8 we had was one of Ralph Dykes prototypes...no idea how many he had before Roland started selling them . Ours was a late model prototype as it had the roland case mostly as it appeared in the final version. No idea what happened to it, but after the school closed down my friend bought the Jupiter and the 700 ...and they are in his basement to this day.
@@NeilABlissOnly the biggest composers in the world could offer a score on that setup now. Funny to think. Could I have the address of your friends basement? I'm just booking the hit team and we'll relieve him of the System 700.
There is an old German documentary from the mid 1960s where they show how composers of modern classical avant-garde (then called "electronic music") used to put in pitch and gate information step-by-step on even more rudimentary, clunky semi-mechanical devices. This job would be carried out by an assistant following a written score. I wonder if Roland's device was informed by that older practice, and invented partially with those composers in mind. Perhaps that's what also inspired its "Composer" name. Also, it's fascinating how that type of "composing" got carried over to the 303.
I'd be interested to see that! The MC-8 was actually a more sophisticated, multi track version of a prototype built by Ralph Dyck. Ikutaro Kakehashi caught wind of its development and did a deal with him to make it a Roland project. Perhaps Ralph knew of those earlier devices.
You sir, are a scholar and a wizard. If anything, this video makes me even more impressed by YMO, none of those songs could have come easy. Also, nobody can convince me that the end track isn't an unreleased YMO-track, it's absolutely bang on!
Unbelievable. YMO has been my favorite band since I was 14 (44 now) and the song at the end is absolutely perfect. YMO is criminally underrated outside of Japan. Thank you for keeping their sound alive!
YES! There isn't enough about YMO. I'm still waiting for someone to make a documentary about their influence on early electro and rap. 1000 Knives of Ryuichi Sakamoto is also incredible.
Have you checked out the B2 album by Sakamoto, some even nicer tracks like Riot in Lagos and Participation Mystique, incredible production!@@AlexBallMusic
@@AlexBallMusic Anyone who's head the original Ryuichi Sakamoto version "1000 Knives" note just far ahead of its time that song was--it was his university graduation project from 1970! And it still sounds great in 2024.
YMO Computer Games bring me to my childhood, I used to have the 45 record also I remember hearing that song in the arcade room in my local shopping mall, that was around 78 or 79. The MC-8 was also used by Martin Rushent in Human League Dare album with a System 700, the equipment is listed in the album. And like always your videos and your tunes are outstanding, thanks Alex.
You ll need to be a superman like the famous japanese trio to program it and get the wonderful tunes of the first YMO albums. Congrats to Alex ..nice effort and very nice YMO style tune!!
“Hello my fellow dorks,” is a top-tier opening line that caught me by surprise. 😂 Synth dorks are the best dorks. Great film as usual….RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto & Yukihiro Takahashi. (The closing track is such a great tribute to YMO too!)
@AlexBallMusic 😮... 😆 🤣 🤣 .I hear you. I know that you like analog hardware and synths. Do you ever play with virtual synths? I'm curious about your thoughts about Uvi Falcon 3, and the Mpc Live 2. And my burning question is... how do you make pc instruments, a daw, and pc plugins sound comparable to hardware equipment on a sonic level? Can you do a video on that for us computer users? @AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic that final track is awesome by the way. That composer made a good synth bass sound. And I love the sound of that prophet 6. Do the computer emulations of it sound accurate?I can't afford analog gear yet. I would love to have a mixing console if I could. On another note, do you have a favorite talkbox? I'm trying to get a Zapp and Roger sound. Thank you.
Have you checked out the Uvi Toy Suite?I haven't bought it yet, it's kind of expensive. But it has a 8 bit virtual synth in it for making video game type sounds. How does it sound to you?Zelda, well Nintendo and Sega level sounds from the 80's? Have a good day. You make great videos. Thank you.
What I think is great about this era of instruments is the user interface and physical package of the instrument. Solid buttons that make a confident click, lovely knobs, metal front panel and beautiful wood side panels.
Wow...Talk about nostalgia! I haven't listened to my YMO albums in *YEARS*! What a delight listening to you explain this really tedious method of sequencing! and your homage to YMO's music with your stylized composition was just toe-tapping! I do remember looking at the back of one of their albums and seeing the list of equipment that they used to record that album and thinking to myself that it must be so amazing to have access to all those wonderful machines and synths and wishing I had just one of those things! Today, I enjoy my Yamaha DX7 FDII that I've had for 20+ years and a whole host of Korg Volcas and my latest acquisition, a Deepmind 12. That and my birthday present to myself, the NDLR and I can get some pretty decent stuff out of it. Thanks for rekindling my enjoyment or YMO...now I gotta dig out their albums and relisten to them again!
NGL Alex, this is actually better than YMO who I love. Never mind the epochs of geological time spent programming the MC8. You're a compositional monster - the chord voicings and clever resolutions at the end of each section made me laugh out loud. Absolutely pitch perfect, and one of the best things ever on RUclips, seriously.
You are very talented and patient Alex. I am impressed. I had a step time sequencer once: Firstman and then Roland MC50. The song in the style of YMO you composed is also excellent.
Your abilities to encapsulate any style in your pieces are truly exemplary. If someone had tried to pass your outro track as a long lost YMO piece I don think anybody could have had any doubts. The MC-8 was certainly revolutionary, if you could afford one and translate your ideas into maths.
Yep! I had to know how this thing worked and so I got one and learned. I'll now file that under the biggest folder in my brain: Useless things I didn't need to do.
Damn. You are a treasure, Alex. It’s one thing to love these obscure and dorky devices like we do, and it’s another thing to make these wonderful demonstration/explanation videos but, my oh my, the demo music you make with them is absolutely stunning. If you were the only reason the internet/RUclips were invented, it’s almost worth enduring all the other crap. Bravo!!!
Ive always said tec gets in the way of inspiration & actually making music, just shows how YMO and alike pushed through and came up with some great music, whilst having to divert and learn the new tec. How easy we have it now, and i suppose thats why modern music sounds the same.Big fan of YMO since the late 70's. Good track you did here, Thank you.
The demo songs you do never cease to amaze me. You clearly have a ton of musical talent and a great production ability, and the fact you use them for tech demos just shows how much you love these instruments. Really captured the YMO vibe on this one!
Great homage Alex! Incredible YMO style end track!! Plus vrai que les vrais ! (vocoder + synth bells down and up at 17:01 are perfect!) RIP Maestro Sakamoto and Takahashi Yukihiro 🙏
Very user friendly. Duration doesn't have to be in CPU cycles :) I really enjoyed this. Thank you. I used to attend every electro-acoustic performance during the 70s. Performances were held in a new configurable auditorium and we would be surrounded by speakers. These concerts were free as all the groups featured were touring with grants from culture ministries. " - People on the high rows please come down. There will be an acoustic bombardment." I will never forget this.
Thank you! This video was very insightful and the song at the end absolutely kills it! I didn't know what 16kb of RAM can be capable of. Your passion and technical as well as musical skill makes it look almost easy to program this beast. I'm honestly impressed. ...and if anybody ever calls a music tracker interface "daunting" again, I'll show them this video.
In 1999 I purchased an Alesis MMT-8. I hated it and blame my need for reading glasses on the four years I spent staring at that little screen. This video made me remember these horrible days and the headache I would get behind my eyes. LOL BUT, I can see why this method of working would be freeing to a composer. It's a step above notation and if you know what you are doing can deliver some amazing results. I still would never, EVER want to return to this workflow.
Of all the equipment YMO used, the MC-8 was definitely the one piece most responsible for their sound. Thanks for doing a YMO doc, Alex. I’d love to know more about the LMD-649 sampler they used, but I don’t know if it exists anymore!
I am one of the YMO maniacs in Japan. LMD649 was specially made by the staff for YMO and is not for sale. So there is only one in the world, and we do not know if it is still in existence. However, I remember that a long time ago, a Japanese synthesizer magazine introduced a method for its creation.
What else is there to write as a comment on this channel without getting lost in eternal hymns of praise, which would also be absolutely justified? Perhaps this: I am a fan of this channel's "Land of the Rising Sound". While this was already a small masterpiece in itself in my eyes, the quality of the individual contributions has generally not diminished at all and this channel is definitely the most important channel dedicated to the presentation of historical electronic musical instruments and also packages and presents this in a way that is unrivalled.
Really grateful for this video in helping to understand how this thing was used and how Ymo used it. Yes, it was time consuming compared to today, but I’m impressed with the Roland person’s well thought out design and usability (like hitting enter again instead of having to re-input the same number)
Happy to see a proper feature about this pioneering machine. I've spent many hours in the 80s poring over paper pads filled with digits and typing away at the keypads on both the MC-8 and MC-4. Once everything's done they tick away like clockwork - super precise, tight and full of as much expression as you care to program. Thanks!! Love your channel.
Great video! There's something really appealing about these old sequencers. I like the format with the complete song at the end rather than breaking up the video with multiple medium length pieces. Fun song too!
Wonderful. I love pure number based sequencing. It’s on a totally different level, but I’m reminded of the sequencing on my 1st drum machine, the DR660, back in the early 90s. I knew it so well I could program whole beats without ever having to listen to what I was doing, just adding notes to 124, 148, 172, 196 etc. I didn’t know any different so it felt utterly intuitive to do it like that. I imagine the feeling was similar for seasoned users of this machine.
@@AlexBallMusic it's nowhere near as esoteric and complex as this looks, but it certainly reminded me of the 660, which was more 'move to a location in the pattern numbered according to 96ppqn, choose a note length (which at least was more visual, using note symbols) and press all the pads for the hits you want on that step. There's a family resemblance, even though they'd learned and moved on a fair bit.
That is pretty advanced for 1977. Definitely a small revolution in music production right there. It kinda reminds me of how you'd do music in tracker programs by programming each note. Or the apt comparison you brought up with the TB-303. Roland is just amazing.
@@adamstan84also that the trackers gave you note names, rather than forcing the user to remember numbers! Trackers were really all about the user interface, since the underlying method of producing a table of numbers for the sound chip had been going on for a while. Which is probably why as a sequencer interface they’re still going strong, ported to all sorts of different sound chips or even plain MIDI for controlling plugins!
What an amazing piece of gear and an equally amazing video. I am always impressed with how much work is put into these videos, even without the programming of an MC-8! Love it!
This is so effing cool. I never knew anything but sequencing with the Mac (MasterTracks Pro!) when I started in 1990. It's amazing how music recording technology has gone from pressing vibrations into a foil cylinder into a a near-limitless DAW with emulations of every piece of gear ever... inside a laptop.
Thanks so much for showing current and future generations how much effort and planning it took back then to make electronic music. And the YMO track really does sound like something our esteemed Japanese friends would have made back in 1978. Great work!
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The end track: alexball.bandcamp.com/track/lovers-in-tokyo
Thanks everyone!
Love it! Spot on Alex! In an alternative universe this track is on Solid State Survivor.
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cool track!
According to a interview with Kakehasi MC8 despite costing a fortune and not many sold was for Roland very important as it enabled Roland to take significant steps in technology advancement Kakehasi said. Some more MC8 background and rare late 1970 photos etc web search for: "Exclusive Interview with RALPH DYCK, Godfather of the MC-8!"
YMO approved Alex song as a genuine YMO style song just minutes ago.
You're a genius in creating accurate parodies of musical genres.
I was fortunate enough to work with the YMO in the early 80's. In addition to the musicians in the studio there were 3 or 4 engineers from Roland present who continually built, patched and tinkered with all kinds of wild & wonderful prototypes. They spoke no English, we spoke no Japanese so much hilarity ensued on a daily basis over decoding sign language!
Man, RIP to Yukihiro Takahashi and Ryuichi Sakamoto, thank you for this episode! That song was great
Nah not falling for it, this is clearly a cash register
Worked for pink floyd lol.
The very groovy cash register.
I think that was the sequel to the Hungry Caterpillar.
@@nobodynoone2500Thank you that would have been my next question where was this amazing thing being used.
@@AlexBallMusicGroovy Indeed! 😃
These are not the notes you are looking for…
"And that, kids, is why MIDI was a big deal."
Thank you Alex, amazing video as always!
Cheers!
I was thinking exactly the same thing watching this.
this should still be educated to music students today.
@@Elluvis72 In Japan, they have curriculum and even certification *just* on MIDI. I was stunned when I saw it.
Yes, the development in microprocessors and cheeper memory made all that possible.
It's really fantastic really, what we have been experiencing during our lifetime!
Home computers (VIC 64, Sinclair 81....), mobile phones, portable music (tape players, CD.-players and MP3-players), Internet, the whole digitization era really.
And now we are entering the development and testing of AI.
EVERYBODY, save this video! Any time you get frustrated with your DAW's limitations just open up the Tubes and play this back. Reset. Doesn't that make you feel better? I'm still marveling that you only fucked up once inputting that bass line, Alex. You're the man; and one helluva mimic. Long live Yellow Magic Orchestra!
Just say "time base, CV, step time, gate time", shudder and return to your computer.
I've used DAWs to make music a lot, but I really learned to make music on my MC-303 and, despite it being 1000x more powerful than this machine, I learned that those limitations make me write better music almost every time. DAWless is really just about cutting out the chaff and just focusing on the music. That is what is so wonderful about these old machines.
Edit: Not entirely true, I started with Mario Paint and then a cracked version of Fruity Loops someone gave me on a burned CD.
Tracker users: "First time?"
I like what Tomita wrote about the MC-8 in 1978, on the sleeve notes for 'The Bermuda Triangle': "For the past year I have struggled with a computer - a micro computer. I say "struggled" because a computer is beautifully precise, but I wanted it to produce musical results - in other words, as a musical instrument. How could this keyboard of only ten keys compare with that of a grand piano? But I came to realize that those ten keys could produce an almost limitless number of combinations, each of which is a signal that could determine a characteristic of sound: pitch, texture, attack time, duration, loudness. And the computer can be programmed to change any or all of these features with incredible speed.
The computer thus produces a sequence of signals that control the sound production of a synthesizer. It is something like millions of little hands rapidly changing all the synthesizer connections to produce a vast variety of sounds. My musical images must be coded by numbers to direct those hands to manipulate the synthesizer.
I build layers of sound by programming the computer. These are recorded one by one on separate tracks of a tape machine and finally all mixed together for the end result. I consider myself a sound animator, much the same as an animator of film cartoons.
I have used my computer in creating practically all the pieces contained in this album. It is made in Japan by Roland - model MC-8 - and is perhaps the best in the world with regard to memory capacity and accuracy.
Although I cannot walk onto a stage and have the joy of struggling to perform my music before an audience, I struggle to select the right numbers on my computer to build a creative entity that displays my musical personality."
I once played a gig in 1988 where I had to load in drum samples to a Casio RZ1 (4 x 0.2 seconds) from a cassette. The gap was covered by a 2 minute “link” tune on tape. It took 2 minutes and had never failed in rehearsal… but on the gig night, I got a screen message “Load failed”. Panic. Sweat. I had to play all the tracks from the pre-recorded links tape to the end and try a reload. Fortunately the samples loaded a couple of seconds before there would have been total silence. Panic over and rewind the links tape back to its intended place. Primitive days indeed!
I’m never complaining about guitar pedals again hahah
End track is an absolute banger!
Hideki Matsutake was far too underappreciated, handling the two MC-8s during the live performances was crazy
AND modular synths. What a beast.
The YMO style track is great!
Cheers Marko!
Very YMoreish!
Nothing but respect for those brilliant folks who actually made music with these things. I've never felt so dumb and bewildered watching someone make music with a num pad.
This project is wonderful!
By the way, for my music, I operated the MC-4.
Hideki Matsutake (who was said to be the fourth YMO member)
I won the award for excellence in the show's contest.
I first discovered YMO when I was 16 and I'm now 61. Went to see them live in London in 1980. It was amazing. You could have made a video of how they folded their underpants and I would watch it. Thanks Alex for the tribute to such a fantastic band. RIP Ryuichi and Yukihiro.
I saw the thumbnail and Rydeen just jumped into my head immediately... YMO is an amazing band :)
YMO live at the Greek Theater is legit my favorite live performance ever. I love that they've been getting more attention lately and I love seeing this insight into their groundbreaking composition!
Agreed, their version of Cosmic Surfing at the Greek was the best version by far!
@@johnny.storm-wolf Oh absolutely, and that version of Thousand Knives is absolutely mind-melting!
I strongly suggest listening to their Faker Holic live album, banger versions!
I still have nightmares of volatile memory 45 years later. Wrote my first soundtrack on a MC8 , System 700, Jupiter 8 , and an 808. Unbelievably stressful.
Wowsers, what a rig! Which soundtrack was that?
@@AlexBallMusic nothing special , student film. I was in tech school at the time and that was the synth lab.
Jupiter pre midi btw ..
Actually the mc8 we had was one of Ralph Dykes prototypes...no idea how many he had before Roland started selling them . Ours was a late model prototype as it had the roland case mostly as it appeared in the final version. No idea what happened to it, but after the school closed down my friend bought the Jupiter and the 700 ...and they are in his basement to this day.
@@NeilABlissOnly the biggest composers in the world could offer a score on that setup now. Funny to think.
Could I have the address of your friends basement? I'm just booking the hit team and we'll relieve him of the System 700.
日本のYMOファン、シンセ好きには最高の動画です！ Great Video, thank you Alex ! !
Early Japanese synth pop and tech have contributed so much to my musical life. Thanks for covering YMO and their tech connections.
There is an old German documentary from the mid 1960s where they show how composers of modern classical avant-garde (then called "electronic music") used to put in pitch and gate information step-by-step on even more rudimentary, clunky semi-mechanical devices. This job would be carried out by an assistant following a written score. I wonder if Roland's device was informed by that older practice, and invented partially with those composers in mind. Perhaps that's what also inspired its "Composer" name. Also, it's fascinating how that type of "composing" got carried over to the 303.
I'd be interested to see that! The MC-8 was actually a more sophisticated, multi track version of a prototype built by Ralph Dyck. Ikutaro Kakehashi caught wind of its development and did a deal with him to make it a Roland project.
Perhaps Ralph knew of those earlier devices.
Found it: ruclips.net/video/4L4n7xN0mIs/видео.html
It's from Nineteen-Hundred and Sechsty-Sieben.
@@AlexBallMusic Also, "earlier device" undersells it a bit, I think. It was several rooms of devices, it seems.
@@vinylarchaeologist Holy hell, that looks like a space shuttle launch. That, or programming a CNC lathe. And they're god damn serious about it!
We still call it “electronic music” ?
YMO has been a fave for over 30 years. Thanks, Alex!
Absolute bosses.
“This is clearly a cash register”
Me: “It’s a pretty amazing sounding cash register. I must say!!”
You sir, are a scholar and a wizard. If anything, this video makes me even more impressed by YMO, none of those songs could have come easy. Also, nobody can convince me that the end track isn't an unreleased YMO-track, it's absolutely bang on!
Thanks! Yeah, getting into just a small bit of the mechanics of their music reveals how impressive it was.
Nailed the YMO sound! Killer song.
スウェーデンのYMOファン向けでもあります。 2からのご挨拶！Love your interpretation Alex🙂
Wow pretty cool vintage piece of music equipment and history great tribute to YMO 🎶
Unbelievable. YMO has been my favorite band since I was 14 (44 now) and the song at the end is absolutely perfect. YMO is criminally underrated outside of Japan. Thank you for keeping their sound alive!
YES!
There isn't enough about YMO. I'm still waiting for someone to make a documentary about their influence on early electro and rap.
1000 Knives of Ryuichi Sakamoto is also incredible.
1000 knives stands up even now. Amazing music, yes.
Have you checked out the B2 album by Sakamoto, some even nicer tracks like Riot in Lagos and Participation Mystique, incredible production!@@AlexBallMusic
Riot in Lagos still sounds like the future to my ears. Not sure to what extent tinnitus plays a part in that.
@@AlexBallMusic Anyone who's head the original Ryuichi Sakamoto version "1000 Knives" note just far ahead of its time that song was--it was his university graduation project from 1970! And it still sounds great in 2024.
YMO, Devo and the Buggles are the ones who inspired me to play keys. Great video Alex :)
The YMO tribute was fantastic. Excellent stuff.
YMO Computer Games bring me to my childhood, I used to have the 45 record also I remember hearing that song in the arcade room in my local shopping mall, that was around 78 or 79.
The MC-8 was also used by Martin Rushent in Human League Dare album with a System 700, the equipment is listed in the album.
And like always your videos and your tunes are outstanding, thanks Alex.
YMO is a legendary group!
Amazing, as a YMO fan and a fellow dork, I had no idea they used the MC-8. What a stunningly made video documentary - as always, Alex !
Hey Yotam. They did indeed! The early albums were all done with this mad computer.
I heard Firecracker by YMO a few years ago and now is part of my regular song roster
You ll need to be a superman like the famous japanese trio to program it and get the wonderful tunes of the first YMO albums. Congrats to Alex ..nice effort and very nice YMO style tune!!
“Hello my fellow dorks,” is a top-tier opening line that caught me by surprise. 😂 Synth dorks are the best dorks. Great film as usual….RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto & Yukihiro Takahashi. (The closing track is such a great tribute to YMO too!)
I knew that would resonate.
Thousands of nods. "Yep, I'm a dork".
Blimey, as musician myself, I take my hat off to you!!! YMO are a HUGE influence, so this stuff really resonates with me. Nice one.
The homage to YMO at the end was fantastic!
YMO not to be underestimated! Great hommage to these masters.
I think it would definitely possible to convince someone that the song you made was a lost YMO composition, you really nailed their style!
What a delight! Thanks so much for making this video. Matsutake and YMO are legends :)
Just wild that classics like Rydeen and Kimi ni Mune Kyun were put together this way!! Very informative and great song.
There's no way that I'm typing out a melody like this. But it's mind blowing to see how far that music production has come since these were in use.
I did that entire end track with the MC-8 and I may never do it again. 😂
@AlexBallMusic 😮... 😆 🤣 🤣 .I hear you. I know that you like analog hardware and synths. Do you ever play with virtual synths? I'm curious about your thoughts about Uvi Falcon 3, and the Mpc Live 2. And my burning question is... how do you make pc instruments, a daw, and pc plugins sound comparable to hardware equipment on a sonic level? Can you do a video on that for us computer users? @AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic that final track is awesome by the way. That composer made a good synth bass sound. And I love the sound of that prophet 6. Do the computer emulations of it sound accurate?I can't afford analog gear yet. I would love to have a mixing console if I could. On another note, do you have a favorite talkbox? I'm trying to get a Zapp and Roger sound. Thank you.
Have you checked out the Uvi Toy Suite?I haven't bought it yet, it's kind of expensive. But it has a 8 bit virtual synth in it for making video game type sounds. How does it sound to you?Zelda, well Nintendo and Sega level sounds from the 80's? Have a good day. You make great videos. Thank you.
What I think is great about this era of instruments is the user interface and physical package of the instrument. Solid buttons that make a confident click, lovely knobs, metal front panel and beautiful wood side panels.
The track you wrote with this relic is an absolute belter mate!!!
This makes trackers interfaces look positively heavenly.
It would be criminal for you not to make more YMO style music. Your YMO is as on point as the real thing, seriously, top notch Alex.
A computer? That sequences music??? I never thought I'd see the day! (great-sounding track, BTW)
It'll never catch on.
Wow...Talk about nostalgia! I haven't listened to my YMO albums in *YEARS*! What a delight listening to you explain this really tedious method of sequencing! and your homage to YMO's music with your stylized composition was just toe-tapping! I do remember looking at the back of one of their albums and seeing the list of equipment that they used to record that album and thinking to myself that it must be so amazing to have access to all those wonderful machines and synths and wishing I had just one of those things! Today, I enjoy my Yamaha DX7 FDII that I've had for 20+ years and a whole host of Korg Volcas and my latest acquisition, a Deepmind 12. That and my birthday present to myself, the NDLR and I can get some pretty decent stuff out of it. Thanks for rekindling my enjoyment or YMO...now I gotta dig out their albums and relisten to them again!
This gem will for sure soon replace all our DAWs , VST and all that software crap!! This is amazing!!! It's the future!!
NGL Alex, this is actually better than YMO who I love. Never mind the epochs of geological time spent programming the MC8. You're a compositional monster - the chord voicings and clever resolutions at the end of each section made me laugh out loud. Absolutely pitch perfect, and one of the best things ever on RUclips, seriously.
Very kind, thank you!
@@AlexBallMusic I'm not kidding Alex, this is your finest moment yet. Apart from all the other ones.
That song is really a "happy moment" song. Buying it promptly.
You are very talented and patient Alex. I am impressed. I had a step time sequencer once: Firstman and then Roland MC50. The song in the style of YMO you composed is also excellent.
your song perfectly captured the spirit of YMO
Cheers Tom. Still got yours?
@@AlexBallMusic yes. I bought a second mC4 also
Your abilities to encapsulate any style in your pieces are truly exemplary. If someone had tried to pass your outro track as a long lost YMO piece I don think anybody could have had any doubts.
The MC-8 was certainly revolutionary, if you could afford one and translate your ideas into maths.
My word, we really are spoiled nowadays!
Something very comforting about the final track. Very much my era musically. Loving that sound!
Its spring, the cherry blossoms are flying in the air. Its time for the Lovers in Tokyo to type values into their mc-8!
Round of applause for Jeff, Hillary and Susan for their valuable contribution!! Fantastic video Alex! 🙂
They were crucial.
Thanks for your video, always wondered how the hell you could program stuff into these boxes. That YMO-influenced song at the end was lovely !
Yep! I had to know how this thing worked and so I got one and learned. I'll now file that under the biggest folder in my brain: Useless things I didn't need to do.
Legendary! So incredible you are covering this Alex, thank you for all your hard work ❤
Cheers Jasper!
Damn. You are a treasure, Alex. It’s one thing to love these obscure and dorky devices like we do, and it’s another thing to make these wonderful demonstration/explanation videos but, my oh my, the demo music you make with them is absolutely stunning. If you were the only reason the internet/RUclips were invented, it’s almost worth enduring all the other crap. Bravo!!!
Always a pleasure to land on one of these videos early!
Just got my Siel Mono up and running again so I'm in a very synthy mood!
Excellent. Play along!
Ive always said tec gets in the way of inspiration & actually making music, just shows how YMO and alike pushed through and came up with some great music, whilst having to divert and learn the new tec. How easy we have it now, and i suppose thats why modern music sounds the same.Big fan of YMO since the late 70's. Good track you did here, Thank you.
Insane how well the 8th note bass ideas CARRY this tune, but ofcourse the harmonies - Argh, I just love it
The b-roll of pressing the buttons in the "LOAD" section is a true delight.
ETA: All of this b-roll is a delight. Thank you, Mr. Ball.
Gotta have those cutaways!
The demo songs you do never cease to amaze me. You clearly have a ton of musical talent and a great production ability, and the fact you use them for tech demos just shows how much you love these instruments. Really captured the YMO vibe on this one!
Thank you! I do indeed love these instruments. :)
Man, complicated times back then. We are so spoiled now. Great track, love YMO!
Hey JP! Yeah, you had to work for your notes and rhythms back in the day.
Brilliant video (as always) and DAMN, the YMOesque song you did so lovingly on all the period gear is wonderfully spot on. Bravo!
Thank you Alex for the highest compliment you can give.
I enjoy your channel and they don’t get much dorkier than me.
Great homage Alex! Incredible YMO style end track!! Plus vrai que les vrais ! (vocoder + synth bells down and up at 17:01 are perfect!)
RIP Maestro Sakamoto and Takahashi Yukihiro 🙏
Incredible track. Thank you, Alex, for your inspiring work.
Cheers!
I’ll never moan about the Logic Pro edit page EVER again. Great vid!
Very user friendly. Duration doesn't have to be in CPU cycles :) I really enjoyed this. Thank you.
I used to attend every electro-acoustic performance during the 70s. Performances were held in a new configurable auditorium and we would be surrounded by speakers. These concerts were free as all the groups featured were touring with grants from culture ministries.
" - People on the high rows please come down. There will be an acoustic bombardment." I will never forget this.
A different world!
seriously blown away by the insane quality every time I watch!
The discipline necessary to put your inspiration through such a process and achieve something musical, impressive.
Thank you! This video was very insightful and the song at the end absolutely kills it! I didn't know what 16kb of RAM can be capable of.
Your passion and technical as well as musical skill makes it look almost easy to program this beast. I'm honestly impressed.
...and if anybody ever calls a music tracker interface "daunting" again, I'll show them this video.
綺麗な動画ですね。パソコン少年時代にテクノポリスのベースパターンを打ち込んだことも懐かしい思い出。余談だけどやっぱシンセは木目だよね。
In 1999 I purchased an Alesis MMT-8.
I hated it and blame my need for reading glasses on the four years I spent staring at that little screen.
This video made me remember these horrible days and the headache I would get behind my eyes. LOL
BUT, I can see why this method of working would be freeing to a composer. It's a step above notation and if you know what you are doing can deliver some amazing results.
I still would never, EVER want to return to this workflow.
Was looking to get an MC-4 - BUT wow the used prices! And the track at the end was a fantastic homage to YMO. Great stuff as always.
Desirable things. :)
Of all the equipment YMO used, the MC-8 was definitely the one piece most responsible for their sound. Thanks for doing a YMO doc, Alex. I’d love to know more about the LMD-649 sampler they used, but I don’t know if it exists anymore!
Oh boy, yes! I'd love to do something on the LMD. Maybe I'll get a chance somehow.
I am one of the YMO maniacs in Japan. LMD649 was specially made by the staff for YMO and is not for sale. So there is only one in the world, and we do not know if it is still in existence. However, I remember that a long time ago, a Japanese synthesizer magazine introduced a method for its creation.
What else is there to write as a comment on this channel without getting lost in eternal hymns of praise, which would also be absolutely justified?
Perhaps this:
I am a fan of this channel's "Land of the Rising Sound". While this was already a small masterpiece in itself in my eyes, the quality of the individual contributions has generally not diminished at all and this channel is definitely the most important channel dedicated to the presentation of historical electronic musical instruments and also packages and presents this in a way that is unrivalled.
Thank you!
Brilliant !! Can definitely see where the TB-303’s sequencer ‘logic’ came from!
Sweet! These beasts are pure synth exotica. Banger of a song too 😁
I'm always here just for the ending tracks, because i know they are absolute bangers! great job as usual Alex!
Thank you!
Really grateful for this video in helping to understand how this thing was used and how Ymo used it. Yes, it was time consuming compared to today, but I’m impressed with the Roland person’s well thought out design and usability (like hitting enter again instead of having to re-input the same number)
Happy to see a proper feature about this pioneering machine. I've spent many hours in the 80s poring over paper pads filled with digits and typing away at the keypads on both the MC-8 and MC-4. Once everything's done they tick away like clockwork - super precise, tight and full of as much expression as you care to program. Thanks!! Love your channel.
Great video! There's something really appealing about these old sequencers. I like the format with the complete song at the end rather than breaking up the video with multiple medium length pieces. Fun song too!
Good grief! Your consummate musical, technical, video production and presentation skills are simply unbelievable Alex. What a stunning video!
Thank you very much!
I was listening to YMO all day and now this? You've been reading my mind
Love the mnemonic devices bleeding into your presentation.. Hilary, Susan. I super relate. ❤
Fantastic effort - both in that track at the end and in programming the MC-8! Love it.
Wonderful. I love pure number based sequencing. It’s on a totally different level, but I’m reminded of the sequencing on my 1st drum machine, the DR660, back in the early 90s. I knew it so well I could program whole beats without ever having to listen to what I was doing, just adding notes to 124, 148, 172, 196 etc. I didn’t know any different so it felt utterly intuitive to do it like that. I imagine the feeling was similar for seasoned users of this machine.
I didn't know the DR660 still used a paradigm related to this. Very interesting!
And yes, I can relate, I started thinking in 120 time base.
@@AlexBallMusic it's nowhere near as esoteric and complex as this looks, but it certainly reminded me of the 660, which was more 'move to a location in the pattern numbered according to 96ppqn, choose a note length (which at least was more visual, using note symbols) and press all the pads for the hits you want on that step. There's a family resemblance, even though they'd learned and moved on a fair bit.
That end track is brilliant! You nailed the YMO style and sound.
That is pretty advanced for 1977. Definitely a small revolution in music production right there. It kinda reminds me of how you'd do music in tracker programs by programming each note. Or the apt comparison you brought up with the TB-303.
Roland is just amazing.
Yeah. The big advantage of trackers however was GUI - you can see more than one step at a time ;)
@@adamstan84also that the trackers gave you note names, rather than forcing the user to remember numbers!
Trackers were really all about the user interface, since the underlying method of producing a table of numbers for the sound chip had been going on for a while. Which is probably why as a sequencer interface they’re still going strong, ported to all sorts of different sound chips or even plain MIDI for controlling plugins!
@@kaitlyn__L That's right! I have some very fond memories of FastTracker II on my PC in late 90s.
What an amazing piece of gear and an equally amazing video. I am always impressed with how much work is put into these videos, even without the programming of an MC-8! Love it!
This is so effing cool. I never knew anything but sequencing with the Mac (MasterTracks Pro!) when I started in 1990. It's amazing how music recording technology has gone from pressing vibrations into a foil cylinder into a a near-limitless DAW with emulations of every piece of gear ever... inside a laptop.
Wonderful video as per, and the track at the end is superb 👌🏻
Progress is a beautiful thing.
Yep. I wanted to make this video to show where we started.
Always love the songs you do on these videos, I don't know how you manage to find those interesting chords sequences, they are spot on 10/10!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks so much for showing current and future generations how much effort and planning it took back then to make electronic music.
And the YMO track really does sound like something our esteemed Japanese friends would have made back in 1978. Great work!