Actually Buying the Best Big Survival Knife
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Survival knives run the gamut when it comes to size, shape, steel and sheaths. The one common criteria is it must serve to get you out of a bad situation. Our man Seth just hasn’t gotten one yet, so let’s explore his options today. Get your own here: kcoti.com/3W0oYBk
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00:00 Adding a Survival Knife to the Collection
01:14 Schrade SCHF52: kcoti.com/3xTSLnh
03:25 APOC Survival Tools Wayward Camper: kcoti.com/3S0i662
05:28 Joker Nomad 6.5: kcoti.com/45ZJy9N
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09:54 KA-BAR Becker BK9: kcoti.com/3WcJ5xA
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14:00 Steel Will Chieftain: kcoti.com/3VVMkbi
16:26 Fallkniven A1: kcoti.com/3y1LHoy
19:02 TOPS Earth Skills: kcoti.com/3xQpVUK
20:58 L.T. Wright Gen 3: kcoti.com/3VUWBEB
23:28 Seth Buys a Survival Knife
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Who else wants to see Joe Flowers teach Seth survival knife skills? -DCA
Better yet, Joe Flowers takes both Seth and Thomas on a trek through the Brazilian Rain Forest. That'd be an AWESOME show!
YES.
@@random_eskimo_in_the_rockiesI second this motion! Seth and Thomas in the Amazon!
Yessss!
@@knifecenter that would be awesome .
Please do more of these buying, and we would LOVE reviews/tests of the chosen knives!
I have a hard time pinning down just what I think a survival knife is. I always end up with a bushcraft or camping knife. It's the kind of knife I would want if I were lost in the woods, and I would prioritize toughness. I look at those big honkers and I don't think that's what I would want. Too cumbersome. Yes, you could do some chopping, but not enough to really produce a lot of firewood or building materials. I don't think you'll be using any knife for that, too often. I don't think I'd go bigger than the SRK or Esee 6.
A little story: When I was a teenager, I was into backpacking and wilderness survival, etc. I asked my Dad for a knife and he asked what kind I would like. I said, "the kind of knife you'd want if you were lost in the woods." On my birthday, he got me a Buck 119 Special. He reinforced the sheath with some rivets and stamped the spine, "For Mike From Dad - 1981." I took it on many outdoor adventures, but never had occasion to get lost in the woods and put it to the test. I still have it and cherish it, since my Dad passed away just in January.
That's a good survival knife just might have limitations but still very capable. Buck makes very good things and has a very good warranty.
That knife is priceless. I have a 1980 Schrade LB7. I'm now in my 60's and still think its a great knife. My son will get, and other more expensive ones, but that old folder is special.
@@mikehigbee2320 Its the one you have with, so always treat it right. The knife isnt so much the issue. Knowledge and skill and experience is how you make it thru. You can find a river or fteek bed and a good shiny or smooth rock, bteak it with anither rock, and you have a cutting edge.ive done that few times just to test Did one thin and sharp. Another with fat break but edge good ekough for rough work.
The joker are very nice knives no matter what you buy they are great
Wait until you go into a wet environment and youll fully appreciate those Fallkniven handles ❤
Same goes for cold environments if you live where that happens the rubber helps
Cut 4 ft of paracord. (Be sure to burn the ends so it doesn’t fray). Run the paracord through the belt loop of your BK-9 sheath and tie it around your waist secured with a square knot. It will beat a dangler every time. It will move out of your way and you can readjust it easily. This is the way SAS survival expert Lofty Wiseman carried his parangs.
I'm having trouble picturing that in any way that sounds comfortable...
Wow. I do basically the same thing to certain fixed-blades to have a more versatile carry and to get outa my way when forced with climbing rock obstacles. Ive got "loops and line" on several fixed-blade rigs, and i just like it. Starting doing that 40-something years ago, and still do when i go thru certain terrains.. i've been messin about in forests and tough terrains for over 50 years. I respect whatever knife i use, found out not to chop with my field knife like this fella has been saying. Get a small saw or hand axe. Treat 'em like your best girl. Ive used the same field knife over 40 years, and, as with any knife, i dont try to see if i can destroy it like some do. I try to respect whatever limits it may have by having amother tool if plausible that suits heavier tasks. I've never truly believed in "only one knife" principle. Through the decades, ive up to 4-6 knives for different tasks, plus short machetes, and sometimes a hand axe, not on a regular basis. Sorry to ramble. But glad to see someone else use the "loop and line" on the knives. Safe travels. Huckster
Good job Seth and Thomas. Well considered/thoughtful commentary and definitely made me want to buy every knife on that table. I appreciated the video and would like to see more! Whether that's Seth doing hands on survival skill learning or just getting to do some hands on shopping. Keep up the great work.
Great video! I like this guy. He’s not pretending to be a know-it-all like the Blade HQ punk.
Blade hq "DILBERT"
Who's the Blade HQ punk? I stopped paying attention to BHQ's videos after Ben moved on.
@@DEVGRUnotST6 George AKA DILBERT, every once in a while I make the mistake of watching till I'm ready to scream
@@billvan5219, I got curious and watched a couple minutes of a video with him. I can't put my finger on why, but he immediately rubbed me the wrong way.
ya... Blade HQ dodo boyyyy... i hate that fake guy
Please do a follow up with the changes you make with the BK9. Thanks
I would love to see more videos like this. Seth, dca or Thomas deciding between a variety of knives for a particular use is cool
Was a bit surprised you didn't have the lionsteel m7 in the mix . But my choices are not the same as others .
I’d go with the T6, but yes I too was very surprised to not see a Lionsteel in there!
I see what you guys mean. But ofcoars, it's tough to get all the favorites in there. Likewise. How isn't the TRC's apocalypse in there?
Seth and Thomas you guys can be very proud to produce one of the best videos I have ever seen. The key ingredient is the friendly and close approach. Just one word FANTASTIC
The Fallkniven might surprise you. I find my F1's handle to be very comfortable. Also, they are specifically designed to work with gloves, which is a good idea in a survival situation.
I'd think the last thing you'd want if you don't know when you are getting home is a knife you can't sharpen?
Great video dude!! Very informative and I think this is the best video you've done so far!! Definitely can tell the passion you have for this topic. I really appreciate and enjoyed your presentation!! ✌️
I did this same exercise and ended up with the cold steel drop forged Survivalist. It’s about a pound of 52100 carbon steel, but it’s well balanced and capable of performing every camp task under the sun. I honestly don’t think I could break this thing if I tried.
Only drawback was the rear cross guard, but with some light modification, it magically disappeared.
Great knife, better value, “Drop Forged Survivalist”
Pity you did not consider the CS Trail Master! I have one and it excludes two important aspects. The cross guards are fine and my San Mai III version does not corrode and is super tough, full convex grind. It's a superbly balanced knife (like the Survivalist)! Check it out - but I warn you, you might just end up buying one!
@@dennisleighton2812 you have the SanMai version?
Calling 9260 a tool steel is really a misnomer. It is more accurate to call it a spring steel. It’s almost like someone took 1065 and added a huge amount of silicon to it, taking what was already a tough steel and making it even more impact resistant. Sword makers like Paul Chen use 9260 to make long but exceedingly strong katanas from it. APOC tools don’t have a great deal of exposure yet, but among those who use them, they have earned a great deal of trust.
I have a bunch of blades made from it myself. Small black Smith, friend, and I can't say enough about them. His artistic ability to make the weapon/tool to fit what I wanted, and the durability of them is insane. At first I bought them to have them in my collection and one for use, now I have many to pass to my children, I can't see many blades holding up like they do and if my kids need a blade i want it to he something I trust for them as well, not to mention each was made special for each one of them , with touches that fit their personality.
@@beentheredonethat5908 Yeah, 9260 is great for making strong, tough blades. The only real downside to it (as long as you don't need it to be stainless, but even then 9260 isn't that bad with rust) is that the large amount of silicon means forging 9260 is somewhere between very difficult and almost impossible. If you're going to forge a blade rather than grind/stock removal a blade, you're better off with one of the simple 10xx series steels, or better yet, something like 80CrV2. However, for just grinding out a tough, dependable large blade, 9260 is great stuff.
Are you mistaking 5160 spring steel?
@@ap0lmc Certainly not. 5160 is similar, yet very different from 9260 at the same time. Chemically, 5160 has small amounts of chromium, while 9260 has none whatever. However, the big difference is in the silicon. While 5160 has a very small amount on silicon, 9260 has significantly more. The higher levels of silicon are a real impediment to forging. In addition, 5160 is much more forgiving in the heat treatment. With 9260 it's much harder to get a good quench and temper. APOC and Cheness are about the only producers who consistently get good HT with 9260. Much of Asia (especially Nepal) not to mention the rest of the world is filled with smiths getting marvelous performance with 5160.
@@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies thanks. What about Cheness swords are they any good? Some people said they're inconsistent and others love them. I heard they're out of business.
Hello 👋 my knife specialist, thank you for this informative video. I like the SRK and the Becker BK9. Stay safe. 😊
Can’t wait to see the use video!!!
Thank You for sharing. Absolutely yes to everything!
Good job young man. Really enjoyed the video.
Love this style of video. Great way to talk about knives from your perspective and your purchasing thought process.
anything in 1095 that’s over $100 and isn’t a custom knife is overpriced as shit, especially when you can get 14c, 12c, nitro v, dc53, 52100, etc and if you catch a sale on a cold steel SRK/SRKc even 3v for under $100. i’ve even seen the cold steel master hunter in 3v for under $85. 1095 needs to go by the wayside, especially since these companies give it DOG SHIT heat treats treating them to 57-58 hrc which is absolutely stupid and ridiculous. some of the best bang for your buck survival knives are bark river, cold steel’s 3v and 52100 drop forged knives, brisa’s knives in e general but especially the trapper in O1 and elmax, battle horse knives, joker, and obviously mora. also can’t forget the terrava jakaripuuko in 80crv2.
Bark River has some big issues not to long ago. Labeling steels wrong if I remember correctly.
Absolutely. I can't believe people are still buying 1095 knives at these prices. Ka-Bar should be making the Beckers in 3V or something by now.
@@TheSpoovy lol casual
Very enjoyable watch. Nice work.
Excellent video, more videos such as this one would be good.
great video yall, keep em coming, thanx!
Nice lineup I have to say. My personal favorite knife of all time is the bk9. So I'd recommend it and never looking back
I like your overview of the fix blades an your pick. Hope you have another video on fix blades.
Welcome to the Bk9 club!!! Youll absolutely love it. Theyre a fkn beast
Awesome video. I’ve been procrastinating on getting the BK16 for ages and think I’ll finally go for it now. Can’t wait to see the BK9 in use videos!
Good video. Fun to watch. Do more.
Excellent video. Love LTW, the Genesis for Bushcrafting is one of my favorites, Esee, great waranty and Tops are solid- (the BOB) and the Joker line is so good and affordable.
Very well done, well thought out video Seth! I totally agree with your choice too, as it was my choice many years ago when the Becker first came out. 😊
Great format! More like this would be awesome!
Nice to see your thought process, Seth. Well done.
Awesome choice. I love them and loved this style of vid.
Fun video Seth! Great job.
this is EXACTLY the kind of content I want to see! Put that Becker through a gauntlet!
Loved this video dude. I like your choice in the end.
I do enjoy knives as a journey.... so this is really nice content to see. Love it!
On your journey, do yourself a favour and make a turn towards Japan. That's where the Cold Steel Trail Master (San Mai III version) is hand-crafted in a full convex grind blade. It'll knock your socks off!
Like this style of video and YES to the real world use of your new purchase
Love that LT. I have a small LT Wright in AEB-L. Best edge I have in my collection. All the chatter about particle metal but it's edge is wonderfully smooth and sharp! It's also the knife people gravitate to when they visit my house.
Best all around is the Roach Belly - Fighting, carving, skinning, kitchen, and Bushcraft. It does it all.
BK 9 would be my choice too. Great pick.👍👍 I have the BK 21 and love it.
Fun video - thanks! More of this, please!
your analytical selection is what I am 100% onboard... there so many awesome knives from the table but the Ka-Bar is the tried and true survival for chopping, doing some bushcraft task, and survival task... awesome selection!!!
I would definitely like a follow up vid where you try out some of your favorite blades and field testing them ie batoning carving fire making etc
I had you choosing between the TOPS and the Becker!
Glad to see you picked the BK-9!
I have several Beckers including some duplicates. I highly recommend them and agree, dress it up and make it personal. Micarta scales. Kydex sheath. Baldric. Make it a part of you and have it on you when you are out and about!
Good luck!
This young gentleman did a wonderful job on this video. He’s very well spoken and quite knowledgeable 👍🏻🇺🇸
Great selection of fixed blades. I only have a few fixed blades in my collection and thinking about something in this category and size range. The Joker is the one I would choose.
Everything is a tradeoff. More size and weight for chopping means it is tougher to use for smaller tasks. The ESEE 6 for me is a nice weight/size, though other steel options would be nice like 3V. I grabbed the SRK 3V when I saw it on sale somewhere for $99. Crazy deal!
I definitely want to see more of this seth. Do another one with an EDC folder or a heavy duty/hard use folder
Yes, I'd love to see you learning new skills and putting your new knife to the test, please!
I would definitely like to see those videos too!
I’ve recently been down this road, but I ultimately decided to get all four of my finalists.
1) Zombie Tools Belmont
2) ESEE Junglas
3) BK9
And the last one, I still don’t have yet.
4) Trail Master San Mai
Spend some money on having an experience with a knife you already have! Make some memories, take a course.....I also use and collect knives. Just my opinion
Skip all the others and just go straight for the TM San Mai! I love mine! I had Rob Evans (Wales, UK) make me a stunning leather dangler sheath for it! Proud owner.
@@dennisleighton2812he already got the others!
😅
Now he'll leave all the others at home!
Great video - sharing your expert thoughts when buying a knife. It doesn't mean it will always transferable, but gives us inspiration.
Simple knives like the Schrade have good basic specs and are great for modding. They can do what 90% of us actually need - not always what we want.
No Condor on the table?
This was a lot of fun!
It also helps that you have a 20% employee discount. Heck, you might even get it for free for doing the "commercial".
Gotta love a Seth video. Your videos are always welcome. Not to detract anything from DCA, I love his stuff a lot too. But I love your stuff, man. The two of you together? Chefs kiss. I would have either went with the LT Wright or the Becker.
Gonna need more of these vids please
I have a BK9 and it’s a total beast! Chops, batons, feathers, slices and dices and is big enough to spear a bear!
Great video.
I'll take the Joker Nomad 6.5
Great video Seth and Thomas.
Great video, good choice! I don't own a falkniven, so I can't speak to their rubber handles, but I own a benchmark lueku and the rubber handle on it, is great.
Definitely more of this
I’d love to see more of this type of video from you Seth. A follow up video would be cool after you’ve put a purchased knife through its paces or at least carrot for a bit. Keep up the good work Seth and Thomas. Always nice to see you guys on camera.
I went with a TOPS Kukri. super pleased.
Really done well. I enjoyed seeing your choices, and I have done bush crafting for many years ~~> maybe too many 😂! You made a good choice in my opinion. The JT is great, if you’re typically carrying a smallish forest axe for chopping for real chopping, but minus the axe, you wouldn’t have great chopping power in a pinch. The BK9 does have that ability (not like a good axe), but it’s pretty darn good and easy to sharpen in the bush.
Take care!
Fallkniven A1 looks so amazing, that I can't even consider any other knife.
My pick out of what he had on the table.
Great idea mate. Take a few knives for a field test. Make it an on-going episodes. Cheers Seth & Thomas from Australia.
I'd love to see more videos like this. I'm a big fan of the Ka-Bar BK2 (after replacing the scales with Micarta), Terava Skrama 240, and Joker Nomad, but I love LT Wright knives. I have a Cold Steel SRK and it's an outstanding garden knife.
Bk9 is an excellent beast of a blade! Love my bk9!
Definitely do the follow up with learning skills and using the knife you chose!
Go with Esee Junglas exact same size as the BK9, but if you want micarta and kydex on your BK9 will be cheaper in the long run comparatively to go with the Esee. 130 for Kabar + Kydex + handles will be well over 200 where the esee Junglas already comes with those options for the same or less.
Thanks for the comment. I've wanted to add to that part of my collection (fixed blades), and that's a nice tip! Thanks again!
While I did go with an BK7 and did go with the scale upgrade and really liked that combo, but when I went for a bigger blade, I went the same way you suggest and really am pleased and highly recommend it .
BK9 AWESOME KNIFE IF I HAVE TO PICK ONE THIS IS IT ,THE DO IT ALL AND THEN SOME
Todd, sorry mate, the Junglas is way bigger than the BK9!
@@dennisleighton2812 Junglas II, 88.75 " - close enough for me !
That Fallkniven has a laminated steel blade which also adds to the cost. Hard in the core and softer on the sleeve.
Nice pick Seth, I don´t own a BK9, but I do have a BK3 Tac Tool, and it´s a beast.
I have a Joker Nomad 6.5 and it is a great knife, the convex grind is still tricky for me to sharpen, but it feels stronger than a flat grind.
I agree with your choice. While I don't own any of the featured knives, I would go with the BK9 as a "1 tool option". Personally I can't imagine myself in a "1 tool" situation. I carry a pocket fixed blade daily and when heading for the woods I add a MY Parang Duku Chandong 8" and keep MY Parang Duku Chandong 10" in my vehicle along with another small fixed blade. I believe that all larger/survival knives need a lanyard attached . Good video and I'd like to have them all. Thank you.
I want to see you take it to the field, add a basic gear, then survive with it, build traps, build a shelter, cook, butcher small game, all the things survivalists have to do. then come back and tell us how it went.
I imagine Seth lives in Virginia, not Alaska. 🤣
@@gamallsdokkalfs7253 its a "survival knife" those are survival tasks. I want to know how that knife fulfills the tasks required of a true survival knife.
You're asking for Bushcraft skills, not for good tools for bushcrafting.
@@logangodofcandy No I am asking for survival skills if you were in a plane crash and had to survive for an unknown amount of time till rescue came.
Seth & Thomas, I really enjoyed this video! Please make more like it to include your suggestion of videos of you learning survival skills. I would also love to see a video dedicated to comparing various Spyderco models. For instance, how about a video that compares the Stretch 2, Stretch 2 XL, Leafjumper, Manix, Para 2, etc. with a detailed focus on handle shape/size differences and cutting/slicing characteristics.
Have the joker and love it, but that tops looks great!
I really liked the final 5 that you picked. all of them would be a great choice. I think I would have had a tough time taking the Fallkniven out of the running though.
Seth, Thomas, great job on the video. I must admit I was a bit surprised (pleasantly) with your pick of the BK9, I had one years ago and it was accidentally left behind at a cottage one year. I think it's time to finally replace it, especially if I can get aftermarket micarta scales for it :).
You chose well Grasshopper. A survival knife is not a safe queen or a work of art. It needs to be able to dig a dakota fire hole, cat hole, chop and split firewood, a step platform to climb a tree and be able to beat the hell out of when necessary.
You could just get a red headed stepchild for that
In my experience a rubber handle is less fatiguing because it absorbs a lot of the shock when chopping and pressing hard for batoning.
Great concept for a show
A BK7 would also be a great choice and the SRK is such a good knife, crazy value
Great choice 👏
Like it. I changed to Micarta scales and joined it with a skeleton remora in a carry rig that is fantastic.
Well done 👏 The Earth Skills would probably be my first pick, I've never seen it before but damn that looks capable. If I was going boring I would definitely prefer the A1 or the SRK.
seth i have owned a cold steel SRK san mai lll for well over ten years and in that time not once did handle material ever enter my mind.great knife but i would love one in 3V. good video ..thankyou
Joker is phenomenal. They are offering a great deal of value for the money. My favorites they offer are the Canadian and the Nessmuk S. My only concern with them is the lack of a decent hilt or finger guard. The handles are very comfortable, but they lack the protection I get from L.T. Wright’s GNS, Next Gen, or Gen 3.
I would watch more of this!
There is no one knife that can fulfill everything you need to do to survive in the wild. You need a large knife good edge retention and toughness. My choice is the ESEE Junglas. Next on the list is a medium-sized knife 5 to 7 inches in length with fine edge on good steel (14C28N, NITRO-V, S45VN, or even D2) with neutral handle shape. Finally a reliable folder in a steel that holds an edge and is corrosion resistant. I would want Micarta on all these, the good kind that's a little fuzzy when dry. What ever kind of steel you choose make sure that the heat treatment is correct for the type you choose. Good luck Seth.
Anyone who actually knows what they're doing would be perfectly fine with a simple Morakniv & folding saw
yah, me too. My 21cm blade traditional Leuku, fulltang 12cm blade from EKA, and a Fällkniven folder with good edge retention in CoS steel. Then, if you want to chop down trees and logs, you use an axe and saw.
@@MB-jg4tr
Don't think he mentioned saws
@@timtitus2532 he didn't, I'm just saying a small knife and a saw is way better than one big knife in a true survival situation.
@@MB-jg4tr true, very true.
Definitely make some videos of you guys out there using your knives.
LOL I read the thumbnail as One Knife to rule the Mall
As soon as you said L.T. Wright, you said enough. Didn’t matter which model. You get what you pay for, and with that company you can absolutely trust. Period.
I have their overland machete, and it's honestly been one of the most well rounded tools I've ever owned
I just found out his shop is 10 to 15 minutes from my house.........all these years I didn't know.
@@williamwaters6803 I have 2 knives from LT Wright: Jessmuk-C and Outback 3V. Both are as good as any knives I have, including my Randalls, Busses, and Chris Reeves. I'd count on either.
@@The4cp Nice! Are you going to take any of his knife making classes? If I lived that close, I'd take the classes every chance I had.
@@The4cp lucky
Personally, I prefer a convexed edge or a scandi for outdoor knives. It's just easier for me to hand sharpen in the field. I'm going to take a look at Joker.
That leather sheath for the Tops Earth Skills, is a traditional mountain man/fur trapper knife sheath style from the mid 1800's. They work great. I have two Green River knives that live in sheaths like that, and they are easy to carry. Oh, and I now use a Khukuri with a 8 inch 5160 High Carbon Spring steel blade. That was made in Kathmandu, Nepal. I think it could out chop any knife you've shown. And it is very easy to sharpen. Once you learn how.
I'd love to be able to wander around the KnifeCentre warehouse when I fancy buying a new knife. (I'd have gone with the Joker myself.)
I wish you would have had some SEAXs on the table. Great video! Congrats