ICT Roundtable: NBB Trader, JadeCapFX, Ali khan ICT, Kimmel Trading | WOR Podcast EP.100
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In this episode of The Words of Rizdom Podcast we are joined by Kimmel Trades, Omor NBB Trader, JadeCapFX & Ali Khan ICT in what is arguably one of the biggest episodes we have ever hosted on the channel. In this massive episode, we deep dive into one of the most controversial and polarising figures in the world of trading and explore the concepts that have impacted thousands of traders globally, Inner Circle Trader (ICT). We debate over the supposed algorithm's inception, deep dive into technicals, discuss how investor capital works and so much more. I'm extremely excited to be able to bring this episode to you guys and wanted to take a moment to thank you all for your immense support. This episode marks our 100th episode on the channel and what a way to celebrate. Grab your notepad and pen, set aside two hours of uninterrupted time and strap in!
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
1:29 - Separating ICT from the Concepts
7:43 - Did ICT create the algorithm?
9:23 - ICT a marketing genius?
10:46 - Drama surrounding ICT
15:48 - How to consume ICT’s Concepts
27:29 - Seasonalities of concepts
29:12 - ICT Concepts Deep Dive
45:39 - Technicals over Psychology?
49:37 - Peer comparison & changing strategies
56:55 - The reason why people are failing
57:31 - How Investor Capital works
1:04:43 - Realistic expectations on profits
1:07:36 - Private investors vs hedge funds
1:14:12 - Professionalism, prop firms & retail traders
1:21:01 - The power of discipline
1:24:38 - Ali’s journey to Mecca
1:27:47 - Consistency & good habits
1:34:40 - Should you learn on Demo?
1:38:30 - Efficiency & achieving greatness
1:40:16 - Quick Fire Questions
DISCLAIMER: I am not a financial adviser. The videos on my channel are for educational purposes only
#trading #forextrading #innercircletrader 
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No matter what anyone says about it, regardless of even Michael's bragging and other trader's witch hunting, it's still a publicly known fact that these concepts changed thousands of traders ways of seeing the markets and in extension their lives. I think being big enough to be a main topic in podcasts is testament to how much impact this single guy has on the retail financial space. 😊
Evidently so! No one has ever giving as much as MJH has to this toxic and ungrateful space and people pretend they have a problem with him having a cult following, like they don't wish they had a cult following themselves.
Very true. These lads are ungrateful brats. Didn’t even finish watching the podcast cause it’s honestly a load of crap.
@@kingsmanTradingGroup No mate, they dropped gems in the Pod ngl. Just watch it but keep off the negative energy, that's what i did.
They’re really ungrateful especially the one on the far left don’t even know who he is but he just keeps talking like he’s him. Without ICT none of them will even know how to decipher the charts like ICT. Still Some good gems in the vid too.
The level of maturity that can be reached with trading from this generation is just incredible to witness by the likes of newbies like me.
The fact that we all speak about him and this whole podcast is about him speaks volumes.
no... it shows how people are easily gullible
yeah because its a cult, people like talking about cults
Whether he’s getting good or bad press, it’s more than we, individually will ever be known
@@JeesusChristad hominem
Bruh it's because the title is literally talking about ICT
Ali Khan spitting facts. It's not really about ICT but about your psychology as a trader. This hit hard
Like him or not,ICT has changed so many lives..I don't know what I'd be doing if not trading forex.
do you know that ict tweeted .that there is going to published a book . do you know when it's was going to realesed ?
Yall put too much on psychology. You will be fine if you trust what your doing
Which ICT has stated countless times in his videos…..
@@samuelobulutsa5689are you trading full time?
As a Bootleg mentorship 2016 ICT trader, who took 4 years to understand it; now funded $300k with FTMO, having an interview with ftmo next week with over $23k in payouts in one month.. I CAN Firmly say this was the best episode for someone who's been struggling. So many valuable nuggets, which I've come to learn by experience. Best time to be a trader with this education.
What order would you recommend watching the playlists in bro
@lazstri5394 I started with the sniper series, but to be honest it never made sense to me cause it was new concepts altogether for someone who was trading with trendlines. I then watched almost all his uploads of that time. Then I got the 2016 mentorship pdf 's and video lessons then I went through them like a mad man for years. 2020 and 2021 were the years that I could say I literally studied the videos everyday. But to answer your question, ICT posted a video where he guides people on how to go about going through his Playlists.
you study and master only the 2016 mentorship and you become profitable
Do you still use that same strategy? Is that the strategy you use to get that payout?
@ULIAMERWIN Not really it wasn't as linear as it sounds.. first I learnt BTMM, then learnt through his free RUclips, but what made it all make sense to me was his 2016 mentorship material.
If you fully understand the ICT lingo, this conversation is so insightful. It's like the one last revision before your final exam. Everything i have studied is being polished with this conversation.
you never stop learning. Makes me think you are at the beginning of your journey 😂
Exactly
If there is nbb trader there is always a big gem🤩
Facts! That’s my dawg!
@@HunnidBandJuggssir I want to learn ict trading, can you recomend me any mentor
True
Charisma overload. 😵 Makes me proud to be an lCT student. Keep it up guys
All concepts are ways of reading price action.
You make money if:
*1.* You _read chart_ successfully regardless of what you use.
*2.* You approach entry, stop loss & targets correctly based on it.
*3.* You apply proper risk management, which includes _position size_ , _risk reward ratio_ & _securing profits_ .
*4.* You become proficient at identifying _when not to trade_ .
It boils down to a simple question: *"Who to learn from?"*
If ICT's way of teaching brings you closer to 'any' of the above, learn from him.
If not, then don't.
_Your_ goal is to *find the source(s)* that bring you closer to those *_four objectives_* .
(While aggressively filtering out their fluff.)
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Absolutely...
100%%%%%
This comment should be pinned
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Amazing as always!
The G
You are the first trader I watched before entering trading
I love this conversation from a successful ICT traders. We missed Paladin and Omar.
I'm so happy to be watching this evolution of trade culture unfold before me. I've never been so excited about trading in all my 7 years
the amount of wisdom I'm getting from these 4 guys is unmatched
Jadecap is completely right on the twitter space phycology rants. That’s where I grew the most. I’m a prop trader. Started 8 months ago. Something clicked at the 6 month mark. Got funded and paid out. Now in a rut but coming back.
what firm?
@@BrianMalekea Topstep. Cheapest besides Apex. I only trade futures though
Could you share more info please! Like the funded account size and profit size. Thank u 🙏🏻
How’d you get into the rut
@@israeldiamond5582 not following rules. Impulse decisions. Bad phycology overall
A while ago I tried to dive into ICT directly from his RUclips. It was tough because of his method of teaching. I started learning from some of his students on RUclips who have more of simple and streamlined way of teaching. immediately started noticing a difference in my trading. Now that I have some what of a grasp of the concepts it's made me actually want to sit through ICT videos and i must say i thoroughly enjoy them now. Id suggest doing this if you were like me.
That’s amazing to hear. Thank you for watching and supporting the channel and sharing your thoughts with us
Amazing to hear charters discussing their ideas candidly. Massive respect to Riz for expertly facilitating this convo, knows when to join in and when to let the conversation flow 👏🏼
One thing about ICT is that like all great teachers and their expressive nature, you have to be an equally great student to catch on the gold being shared in the classroom. You have to actually pay attention and study the material to the letter.
The shorts before the live were already deep gems.
This episode is dynamic ❤️
By far.... the best podcast you've done yet! I thoroughly enjoyed this..... awesome idea!!!
Mr. Ali khan ICT, as far as am concern ICT is The guru to recon with, his concept is supper supper better, I am a living witness
Salaam (peace) This is a great open converstion. Very pure and filled with quality information. Thank you Riz for getting the ball rolling and then steping back and letting wisdom flow.
This is almost like the Club Shay Shay interview with Kat Williams only with trading.
Another great aspect is that with multiple guests it's easy for the converstion to become muddled.
Even when there were several people interjecting at the same time it was still clear.
Thank you Riz!
Biggest take away: climbing a high mountain looks easy; just like trading. But preparing and carrying lemon water is like having a clear process.
It will also prevent a 152 year old lady who looks like ICT from stepping over you as lay there wondering; I thought I already reached the Peak Formation High!
I feel so amazing knowing that I was not alone in this, hearing it from the people coming from the ICT community too. ICT Traders that made it do have something special in common, I could honestly spend 3 more hours watching and listening these trader talks. Thank you, very insightful and amusing content, keep it up!
You have to get ICT himself on of these one day, I don’t even read SMC but hear so much about ICT
The elusive persona seems more fitting, in my opinion
Why would lCT do Riz the honor of appearing on his podcast and gifting viewers when Riz has repeatedly tarnished his reputation by inviting on certain guests and promoting their accusations in clips, titles and thumbnails?
What kind of person raises himself up by pulling others down?
That's f riz gets a hold of him, man's in a whole other universe and life
Best RUclips channel guys , I almost recommended this channel to almost 10 of my friends
ICT changed our lives and is probably the most influential trader in our generation
I'm not profitable yet but trust me this past year of relentless backtests and practice has certainly made me understand the London open and the Nas100 in whole new light
I'm at the door of profitability thanx to that man
Men, I am a new trader Learning ICT, to be honest this podcast was wonderful. You can't imagine how helpful your debate/conversation was. Thank you Guys
Hello 👋
Am also new to the trading community and I trade ict concept 🌿
I would like to maybe connect with you and share idea 💡 about the trading the financial market... how can I contact you?? Here's my twitter handle - @COLD_PIPS
Ict is a next level analysis in the field of technical science. It is not technical analysis, it is technical science.. it is just human nature that if someone is thinking beyond the box and does way better than others, it is natural many people will backbite him or her because he or she did better than them...
It's called jealousy those mfkers at those tables are all clowns
trust me..anybody making money dont care about ict and his traders🤣...
people going back and forth online are not making money
do you hear cuebanks arguing which strategy is the best??😅
@@ojvic7297 sure why do you comment here that means you not making money and that you care so much to even show up here. I call this trolling.
@@ojvic7297how ironic 😂
@@lifeafterkings6315
been profitable since 2020...😂final year in college...
i learnt naked price action from dapo willis...and i know a-lot of ict concepts too
trust me people like you will never reach profitability..
how do i know??
i was once like yall...😅
arguing strategies and fooling myself on twitter until i grew tf up!...
you need to grow up man!
trading is not a gang thing...its lonely as hell!!..
trust me this is the best advice you will ever receive😅
one of the best round table convos, gems among gems given. Thanks Riz and the team here. Really really hits hard.
Thank you RIZ, these are very sincere people, said a lot of things I experienced and realized, now I am on the good road, this video is very good, I watched it
NBB Trader spitting facts; much love bro ❤
Got to learn of ict through watching the WOR pod then I delved deeper into the 2022 mentorship and mehn my trading just really changed I am now profitable and consistent . 🙌🙌
Kindly help me to know about that mentorship
This roundtable was genius, everytime I watch I extract something new
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One of the best pod.... so many gems, nothing being held back.... listened this at the right time in my life... needed!!!!
I really enjoyed this whole episode, too much value in this. Thank you for this!
what did you learn? how not to be a douche bag?
Riz has been the most genuine person this entire time. Never changed. Just changed his environment.
is Riz a consistent successful trader?
Can't wait to listen to these great minds with bunch of experience in what they do.
Thanks Riz and the team for the knowledge..All i can is say is i think we all go through the same struggle as traders and if we don't give up eventually we will make it.
I love how this episode went
Riz hasn't had to say so much
From ICT concepts to a wide range of topics in the trading space; hedge funds, etc. It's a really great episode. Thank you Riz
I saw the clip on this interview and almost lost confidence in the concepts 😂 i had to watch this..what a relief
brother is astonishing the amount of hate ICT has, the thing i don't understand is do you even need to know if ICT is good at trading if a lot of his students and people using the concepts he teach are profitable? you don't need to trust him but you can see people making money with what he taught and that's the only thing that matters@@Mr.Mindset
This is Mega 🎉, the best podcast ever with the great minds, mentors , thanks for the podcast
This is perfect! I been trading for 2 years and just started into ict concepts and with all the drama i wasnt sure if it was actually profitable ot executable. So this cleared up lots
Why people are so bad at pinpointing what he did, whether he is right or wrong. The only thing we should care about is whether we are making money or not from his mechanism. I believe ict has brought the revolution in the field of trading. Once which was only accessible by elite people these days the concepts are far and wide and easily accessible that's it. I call it a revolution in the field of trading...
No one can be like SFT in podcast and riz they been killing it they way they doing podcast every week few time with such gr8 topics n people is juz amazing they r on the top of the game of podcast 💚💚💚❤️❤️❤️❤️
This aged well 😂
By far the best and most informative podcast for me...
Enjoyed a lot already 🙌
What a great podcast to listen while in your boring job. Awesome awesome! Always love to hear Oman sharing knowledge.
I want to watch this right now so badlly!
really dig NBB... stands for his own principles and keeps it hella simple
We need more round tables like this. It was super insightful and hilarious at times 😂
Thank you very much for making these transmissions, it is very helpful for us.
The only ICT concept I use is FVG, that's just another word for market imbalance. Key levels and how candles form are the most important.
lol...ict traders dont know this😅
order blocks are supple and demand..
liquidity sweeps = fake outs😅
and the likes...
its all the same thing
just flashy words
@@ojvic7297its not supply and demand
@@Mr.Mindset
EXACTLY😂
he just gave the fancy names and these traders think theyve learnt the rocket science of trading
If you think OB is S&D then articulate why that is so? Let’s hear it 😂
@@CuriouslyInquisitive
you need to study a lot man
you sound like you just started..😅
but then...it still doesn't matter what you trade..
as long as youre making money, how anybody trades shouldnt bother you...
this is the problem everybody have with ict traders😅..
y'all try to bash on trading strategies that has made more millionaires than the whole ict community combined...
its incredible how brainwashed that community is😅
no offense
The best take away is: learn to isolate - think on your own
It's not enough to know the concepts, you have to be processed based
Yeah! That's what Nav, the bedroom trader did. He completely isolated himself, wore something like headphones to block the background noises and distraction while trading
@@nnconfomiststoic7346legend
The best podcast in the trading industry
This is superb, captivated start to finish, Thanks Riz, definitely up for more 👍👍👍
I loved this episode. Any NBB feature is always lit. Minute 35 by Ali Khan... Caught me a trading nugget. I'll apply that afuckin lot !
'Trading shouldn't be your personality '
'power of slow gains '
'traders taking off-seasons just like athletes'
Mad 💎
Its 2am in India, I am trading ICT silver bullet and watching this wonderful episode
Why I never miss words of Rizdon podcast, he bring always top trader on his podcast and with the different opinions with the different journey and you will learn lot when you are listening one or two hours , so much details, educational material you can use in your journey guys
# Support this channel guys. #lovefromDubaifx
This moment right here is GOLDEN🏆✨💯
ICT is the original source to which the content is drawn from. Has the large audience and what fascinating is that even those who oppose his style of teaching, personality and approach often use his name to be relevant.
"When you understand it to that sort of level you are able to predict every single candle before it printed because the PD Arrays are like ladders."
This is 100% true. If you get to understand ICT concepts to a certain level you become aware of almost every next move the market is about to make. This enables you to make market based informed decisions. It's about the pure flow of price itself❤
On fire !! So well said from everyone.. Much appreciated !!
What I love about this is they all have different experiences... different success, and clearly all have different entry models and risk tolerances... trading is a bespoke industry... find what fits you and consistently look for it... still getting measured for my suit...
Ali Khan’s ADHD got him a bit excited interrupting everyone every 2mins 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
NBB and JadeCapFX are GOATED Traders in the space
Thanks to RIZ for providing this much value able content i hope inshallah you will reach 1 million subscribers soon.
I love it how everyone has so much to say and all have the same aha moments 😂 . As an ict student , it was eye opening 👌
pls never put Ali Khan with ICT Roundtable because he talk too much and he never let anyone talk
NBB talked A LOT Ali wasn’t even bad for that this episode lol
I will be forever grateful to you, you changed my entire life and I will continue to preach on your behalf for the whole world to hear you saved me from huge financial debt with just a small investment, thank you Katherine Flores.
I'm surprised that you just mentioned Katherine Flores here. I met her at a conference in 2018 and we have been working together ever since.
The very first time we tried, we invested $1400 and after a week, we received $5230. That really helped us a lot to pay up our bills.
What impresses me most about Katherine Flores is how well she explains basic concept of winning before actually letting you use her trade signals. This goes a long way to ensure winning trades.
You trade with Katherine Flores too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.
I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?
This was an amazing line up, so much to be learned from just this podcast!
Amazing podcast, everyone speaking facts and contributing amazing value as always.
Make money with what works from someone who can demonstrate it to you
Favourite podcast so far!
The Sons Of ICT 💀
I feel this is Abit fishy 🌚
He once said,
If you proof he wasn't the creator
He would gift you 1million dollars.
He can't ignore you if you had the facts
So please fact is more important than what Alot think 🤔.
Alot never finishes he's training stage
Alot combined he's concept
Alot don't enjoy the journey of trading like he does
Alot aren't patient.
100% reason why Alot aren't profitable
No one wants to flow with he's concept
Even think of he's concept like a pattern.
He understands the flow not the pattern.
The market is like a wave 🌊.
Not a fixed building house block.
His also said his mentally unwell. Keep that in mind when listening to these fools.
@@YusufEbr relax with the word's
Basically, someone doesn't spend 30+ year's deceiving people 🌚
Also, if what Alot of people say is true
ICT has Alot, Alot of hater that would have exposed him
None did, ICT eats big
And the top class students he taught are still living their hidden lives and eating big.
Actually very big
@@YusufEbrif he was crazy we wouldn't be making money with tonnes of his algo based strategies.
Defiantly wanna see the same guys for round 2 ……. Thnx for all u do Riz Iqbal 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
All set and many many thanks. It's very informative
You can tell these guys are ICT students 😂😂😂 Riz hasn't been able to get a word in 😂😂😂 Go on ranting troops ✊✊✊
I used to think this was a real podacast meant to explore deep trading secrets and all ...like all these other fake fx gurus you're out here to make money and nothing else
Disgusting staff
I noticed that as well
Really enjoy all these guys! Great laughs...thanks Gents!
They are the best student of ict.. Very inspiring.. ❤❤❤
Kümmel is so out of his depth here😂
Bro this Ali khan guy is talking way too much lol😂😂 give others a chance to speak too.
Jaw boning 😂
Thanks guys, this was great! Every once in a while someone would talk over someone, that is the only criticism I would give. It could be fixed in the future since everyone has their own mics.
This is has to the best episode🔥🔥. So much knowledge and wisdom which was shared
Didn't ICT say he has mental issues?
Bipolar and actually various other issues. Meanwhile these guys will first use his concepts to sell whatever it is they seem to be selling and now they on here talking absolute crap. If someone is saying his sick and he says a whole lot of things that sounds a bit much and over the top. Shouldn't you as a decent human being just keep your comments to yourself. Honestly these guys will sell their souls for cash and fame. So sick of seeing them circulate podcasts now and you keep giving them a platform to drag the same man's name through the mud for views. ICT roundtable but you couldn't get him on so this BS has no reliability now does it?
Sit through the hours of content and you know his not well with all his rants, it's obvious but yet you go on and on FFS.
You as the host has an obligation to do some research before you take their word for it, not just skim through a few people's views and put it put it out there just coz they have a few followers. They literally just talk prop firms and ICT every chance they get. It's gotten to the point of pathetic now. I don't even watch these podcasts fully anymore. These guys are washed and not worth anyone's time anymore.
I couldnt agree more, any tips for a new trader bro
I am losing hope with all the confusion there is in this industry
100% it's completely all bullshit and all his teachings are renamed. They won't work long term either.
go watch ICT and if thats too much, go watch AM trades or TT trades or Arjo or DodgyDD. They all legit and have some great free plans you can follow. @@danielkebede1355
Most valuable Roundtable episode so far! 😍
This podcast was honestly the one. Thank you Riz
Great Roundtable so far!
Riz this episode marks a lot man congrats first and also this episode really open my eyes how other people trade I don’t use any of these concepts but I respect it regardless how we trade if we are making gains that all that matters! But this podcast is a vital tool to the markets period! I have been watching and learning from every episode and many can say the same!
Keep going and we will keep learning!
Amazing Podcast Guys, loving the different takes and trading styles. Just goes to show that we can all be profitable, just need to all trade our own edges.
always very valuable and informative #skilled funded trader #Words of Rizdom 😍😍
thnks u guys everyone of you ...good insight and knowledge t
Congratulations for 100 episode 🎉🎉
i appreciated what u r doing for the trading community WOR
Big up ICT for his work but damn, the glaze from Ali Khan is crazy 😂
Very useful podcast and always features great traders in the trading industry.
Woooow Riz, Masha'Allah, this the best podcast i've had here, Keep'em comin!! 🤔
I have to convey my massive thanks for sharing such gems.
These roundtable talks are the best
Amazing value in this podcast.
Best podcast ever🔥🔥🔥
Lot to learn. Thanks Riz. Again and again ❤
Defo need a part 2 this was a great insight to each persons mindet, had great things to say
This will be a great watch ❤️🔥