I was so happy with the Cinturato H that I recently installed the M for winter. Living in Canada we have limited time to ride a 45 mm tire in the snow. But I have gotten out on them and the traction is insane. Yesterday I did a 50 km mixed terrain ride that combined pavement, gravel that was pure mud and slop and 5 kms of a iced over gravel walking path. I replaced the Rene Herse Juniper Ridge (which are super grippy) with these and the Cinturato M are staying on, just amazing traction, even on ice and snow. I seated these tubeless with a regular track pump on the first try, my compressor broke, how impressive is that. I am now an official Pirelli fan boy.
Thanks for the review! Really great to see that these tyres last that long. I had schwalbe g-one allround tires on my bike, but after around 2k km the rear thread has become a slick with the canvas showing through at some spots. I did abuse it a bit, but that is half the fun of course. Having something with grip that lasts as well, sounds perfect
This is definitely the best and the most sensible tire review i’ve heard for a long time. I intend to buy a pair of these tires soon and set them up tubeless on my new gravel bike, which came with a pair of Vittoria Terreno Dry that are useless in mud, and rather prone to going flat on rough terrain. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with all of us. Regards from Spain.
I have these in 40c and run them at 40&45psi. About 1500km in, they got 4-5 punctures within 150-200km. Only ever had one puncture before wich sealed perfectly with tubeless milk. Now, one of the new punctures does not seem to seal. I get tubeless milk splattered onto my seatpost every ride. Front tyre still zero punctures. Found them so great, bought a new rear one.
I picked up the 700×40 rode a full weekend on them 50% road 50% off road, absolutely no complaints riding pavement. ( off road grip 👌 ) I'm a hobbyist photographer carrying my camera everywhere I ride, having more peace of mind knowing I'm more less likely to slip, crash and damage my camera. Thank you for your review on the Cinturato M
@@chychy4568feel like most of the answer to this question is heavily implied? Hahah. But I am confident they mean they are running a Pirelli Cinturaro Gravel M in a 45c (45mm) width. Not quite as clear which diameter, but given the test is for a 700c, it's probably 700c (possibly 650b though). 👍
@@chychy4568 no problem - he does a review of the H as well if you search his vids! Basically if you will use this for a true mix of terrains - gravel, singletrack, road etc all year round (dry and some wet conditions) and don't want to keep switching tyres, go for the M (m for mixed). If you want a fast rolling tyre with predominant use on dry gravel, road and occasional drier singletrack conditions then go for the H. But this dude loves the M because they are an amazingly versatile tyre.
James...I’ve done about 1000km on these tubeless Cinturatos and I’m having the same reliable experience. I’m using 35c (due to clearances on my frame), these tyres have tank-like grip in English winter mud, I can ride across pretty much anything, I just dive in and keep pedalling!
I have 1,300 Miles on a set of Ms. 70% of it rural chip and oil in very poor condition, 30% of deep deep gravel and river wash stone. This tire ROCKS! You can't beat their confidence building in the worst of deep loose gravel. I run Tubeless. Total kit weight including myself is about 220 lbs. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. I would buy them again.
Thanks for the video. After 7400 km so far this year, I had 3 punctures in the last 2 months with the Schwalbe G-one Bite. So i was looking for a durable set and am switching to Pirelli. Greetings from Venlo, Netherlands.
@@Thomas-fy9yc i have the bontrager carbon wheels with 25mm internal rim width and the tire ended with 45.1 width after I measured it with caliper. Best bang for your buck.
@@ryand121984 excellent, those will fit my rig perfectly. I’m going to have order them so I didn’t want a $ that wasn’t returnable. Those wheels are the same as my Hunts XWides.
I got a pair of these tires thanks to your reviews and they are outstanding. I've never been so confident on a trail and they are not much slower on the pavement then the vittoria terreno zeros I was running. I might try the gravel h in the rear later but I'm so glad I got a set of these. Thanks again for your review! 👍
Thanks for the review. I have purchased my first gravel bike ever and got the stock tires changed with Pirelli Cinturato Gravel Mixed with tubeless setup after watching your reviews.
4:22 $100 for a bike tyre my first reaction was f$%k! Those Bridgestones I just put on my car costed only $115 per corner fitted and balanced! By the way a Pirelli Cinturato P6 car tyre is only $125 and you'd expect 10x the life span. Bike tyres profit margin is ridiculous.
More precison needed is what makes these bike tyres expensive. Bike tyres need to be thin, uniform, strong, and have tiny teeny well designed tread pattern. The mould machining dictates the price, not the rubber material needed. Not to mention the casing material engineering really dictates the ride quality.
I bought a pair of these when I saw your previous review. I ride from home (San Francisco) to the gravel and was worried about your "vagueness" on the road. But after seeing this review, I'm not so hesitant about riding on the roads with the mixed terrain (M). I haven't had to change my tires yet, but the time is coming soon. Thanks so much for your thorough reviews!
What do you think about running the gravel M on the front and the H on the rear? Seems like it would be a very nice setup. Thanks for the great reviews
Thanks! Some of the best reviews on the Internet. Also nice to hear/understand some of your thinking (ie rolling resistance to grip), that is great. I too am coming to gravel from road biking, and there are so many choices and it's more complicated that road for sure. Thanks again!
You convinced me! Just ordered a set of 650b/50mm to replace ageing (not worn) GKs. Can't wait to plop them on and see how they handle the ever changing Flemish surfaces.
Awesome review. Loving this channel dude. Grip > Rolling resistance 👌 I’m riding this type of bike to have fun and not set some sort of record. Do you track tire mileage with Strava? I’m thinking about doing something similar for my reviews.
Cheers Matt! And yep, Strava's gear feature is how I track all my usage. I have all kinds of review gear in there so I can monitor usage and wear. Even Graphenlube!
These are now my favourite tyres and I don’t even have a set yet! Last year I went with the conti Terra on your advice so I’m gonna follow on with the Pirelli. Great review as usual.
It's a shame the gravel tyre market limits itself to 47-50mm for the 650b option. There are plenty of bikes out there with up to 2.1-2.5" tyre clearance but left with only aggressive MTB tyre options. Manufacturers need to step up the tyre widths now!
Great review 👍it’s a shame that prices have gone up so much on so many things regarding bikes it leaves me scratching my head a little bit hope it eventually corrects it self but I’m not holding my breath.
Good review. I reckon the mountain bikers are better off with lower grip tyres when they go to gravel as they are used to the bike sliding around more and can handle it. Depends though how much they were "under tired" on the mtb and level of experience.
If you're on a tight budget the Schwalbe Smart Sam offers a similar tread from $30. Stops hard as you like on gravel and rolls OK on paved surfaces. Not designed for tubeless, but that works out OK when switching to/from GP5000.
Just watched your video of the Manson Trail. You used a massive tire and it failed in the sidewall for the second time. I purchase the Pirelli Centurato Mixed 650 b 50mm. I am doing a rough track for 7 days unsupported, the Oregon Outback trail. Will this be enough tire? Your video also showed an Apidura feed bag you didn’t much care for. Try the Revelate Design feedbags. Simple and excellent closure!
Hey Dave, my tyre failures were because of shitty tyres rather than actual damage from riding the trail! I'd absolutely ride these tyres on the Mawson. They'd be excellent and 650x50 would be a nice size. The only problem will be deep mud which no tyre will be good at. At least these will be a good option among gravel tyres!
Think it would be worth it to put one of those in the front and the hard one in the back? Especially for longer tours 4-5k kilometers? or rather something more tarmac focused?
I'm also thinking about replacing a rear Schwalbe X-one with a Cinturato velo, on my bike... they have very high puncture resistance (on paper). Or maybe both.
Hey buddy, I'm deciding between this Pirelli and the Gravel King SK 50 for my Cutthroat for gravel on broken terrains, but also for a smooth ride on asphalt in between. I need good grip in wet conditions, dry, or mixed terrains for riding in Melbourne and gravel route around Victoria Here are the things I consider for comparison: - Grip on wet terrain - Grip on dry terrain - Grip on muddy terrain - Wear resistance/wear rate - Rolling resistance - Puncture resistance - Cornering ability - Ease of mounting/seating - Better value for money Which of these options should I go with? Also, any other recommendations?
Hi, I got them in the 700x45 to replace my pathfinder pro 38s. On my mixed tarmac and gravel 100km loop, my average speed is as good with lower watts on the Cinturatos, which is great. I’m not 100% convinced they are the right tyre on really loose pea gravel. Had a few pretty scary slides on them yesterday, but as you mentioned almost anything will suck on pea gravel. Any other tyres/tread patterns you would recommend for the pea gravel? I have official clearance for 47s. Regards
Im running the WTB Resolutes in 700x42mm they air up to 44+change on my 21mm ID rims tubeless, I think they do pretty damn good on pea gravel, thats the majority of riding that I do on them. I dont own a set of tires that Ive yet to wear out lol Im always on the search for the perfect tire for pea gravel and loose chonky gravel, the Resolutes are pretty damn close to beeing perfect, right now Im deciding between the Teravail Rutlands in 47mm or the Cinturato M's in 45mm. The search continues!!
Thanks for your reviews. You do a great job. I'm thinking of getting these tyres in 35mm. I was wondering if I should go for the m or the h? 85% of my riding is on tar roads.
I am looking for all-purpose tyres with a bias toward good performance in the UK mud. Do you think the Pirelli's are better than the Teravail Rutlands, WTB Venture, and WTB Resolute?
Just slapped these Bad Boys in the 700 x 45c flavour. I had Teravail Washburn semi-slick they’re okay. These roll better over tarmac and gives confidence over the CHONK. By far the best all round gravel tire. I think they pair well with wide drop handlebars. James you’ve singlehanded cost me the most money of all the cycle channels I frequent! Bike purchases because of you: Bontrager Aeolus comp saddle Wide drop bars (PNW coast 52 cm) 2017 Bombtrack Beyond Plus Bombtrack BPC fork Carbon wheel sets for both Bombtrack and my gravel bike. I hit the subscribe button. My regards from Canada!
Haha wow, glad to hear I'm emptying your bank account faster than other RUclipsrs! Hopefully all of those recommended things live up to your expectations!
Cant wait for SS review too, I used them and I kinda like them. Now building another set of wheel and thinking to try these Cinturato. BTW, do you think it's silly to use Gravel M front and H on the rear?
You mention these are "vague" while cornering on tarmac. Curious what kind of limits they have descending on road, and if there's a better all around option for mixed descents. A lot of the rides/races around me require a climbing and then descending on tarmac to get to a good gravel loop. And I've definitely had trouble on my 42mm Specialized Pathfinder when trying to scrub speed going downhill without washing out.
Hey, it's been like a year so you probably found a solution hahah. The Gravel H version of this tyre would possibly have a slightly faster centre tread but the side knobs are very pronounced in comparison to the centre so would probs not be great either. He did recommend recently the Panaracer Gravelking SS for drier conditions (and I think he said it is faster too) - the tyre profile is more rounded, and the transition from centre tread to side knobs is much more graduated and I think this would be a good compromise if you want a gravel tyre that performs better on road. Check out his review!
Question - have you played with mixing tires like you would in XC MTB? Like would you consider a Cinturato Gravel H for the rear and a Gravel M for the front? Much akin to the beloved Maxxis Aspen/Rekon Race combo for 29ers
Also.a big fan of these tyres and use them on a 700c wheel set. Disappointing they don't come in wider sizes though, especially 650b (thinking something like a 54m / 2.1"). How do you think they compare to something like the G-One Bite or Panaracer GravelKing SK (which do come in wider 650b sizes)? - looking for something comparable (or potentially more on the grippy side) for my big volume setup.. thanks.
Finally Gravelking supplier got in contact with you? I am definitely down the roadie to gravel and low tread ride .. although mine is at least the Pirelli H
Haha yeah Greg we finally synced up after your promoting 😂 It took a long time for the tyres to get here because of limited supply but that gave me more time with the Pirellis ❤️
hi there, love your tire reviews. This one sold me on the pirelli's. I riding contidion is 50% dry and 50% wet and ride terrain is 40% road 30% gravel and 30% mud. Are the Pirelli's suitable for this ride conditions? could you suggest better alternatives if any?
What would you recommend for a gravel tire in the width range 47-52 mm purely for racing? Assuming I don't need loads of knobby grip and the conditions are dry.
Thanks for the review. Got them following your review. Love the grip and rolling resistance. Coming to this from Road and started on the WTB Sendero (stock tyre on the gravel bike). They are great for winter mud but with the weather getting better in the UK, I wanted a faster rolling tyre but still have grip for dense gravel and single track bits. Thanks again
Any update on your mentioned gk ss review. I'm thinking of switching to the purely and wondered how it compared. Ive used the gk ss and found them a pain to mount even with an air compressor. I'm currently using vittoria terreno dry and they were a dream to mount and doable with a standard floor pump
The test period on the GravelKing SS is done, I just need to make the video...At the risk of giving away too much, I really like the SS. Totally different to the Pirelli Cinturato Mixed terrain though. If you mostly pound compacted gravel then the GravelKing SS are brilliant. If you need more grip to shred then get the Pirellis.
I have 1,300 Miles on a set of 45mm Ms. 70% of it rural chip and oil in very poor condition, 30% of deep deep gravel and river wash stone. This tire ROCKS! You can't beat their confidence building in the worst of deep loose gravel. I run Tubeless. Total kit weight including myself is about 220 lbs. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. I would buy them again.
Haha! I've been asked this before, specifically about ads solar. I gotta investigate this voiceover stuff. I reckon speaking with my own voice would be a sweet gig!
Hmmmm, I don't think the H would last quite as well given how much less tread is on it. I had some puncture issues too that some others have reported in the comments under my video review. Check those out before you spend money ✌️
I run 45mm tubeless. I weigh 190 LBS. Add the bike water and gear and figure 220 LBS. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. 40mm in theory should be just a little more pressure I think.
I run 45mm tubeless. I weigh 190 LBS. Add the bike water and gear and figure 220 LBS. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. 40mm in theory should be just a little more pressure I think.
Hi, anyone run these in 700x45c ? I’m like to see if they will clear my chain stays and could use a width from someone mounting them on 25-26 internal wheels.
@@garygumnut4803 47...🤔 my riddlers 45 got up to about that on my Hunts X Wide, so I know I can fit about that...someone mentioned in a previous post the Cinturato H’s reached 45.1 on 25 internal...
@@Thomas-fy9yc I guess it depends where the widest point is, I have seen a bit of variety in that whether it be the side wall or the widest piece of tread. I measured them to be 47mm at the widest point with verniers.
I usually count the side knobs in the width, guess I could mount them and see if it fits, if not then off to eBay or save them for my hopefully near future Surly bike packing rig.
Have to disagree. A set of Maxxis ramblers in British money are £45 each. They’re on the cheap end of a good tyre and they’ve lasted me less than 1200km before needing binned. (Probs should have done it 200km ago) I think if a tyre is giving you more performance, grip, less weight and better durability by a measure of 100%. As with anything that offers that much more over competition, I think they’re within their rights to demand a little more cash. Especially when that extra cost is marginal at a measly £10 extra each.
$100 for tire is a joke. i have been ride for a long long time, beside a set of gatorskin tires....i have never bought brand new tires. Bought used tires for pennies.
I run 45mm tubeless. I weigh 190 LBS. Add the bike water and gear and figure 220 LBS. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. 40mm in theory should be just a little more pressure I think.
I was so happy with the Cinturato H that I recently installed the M for winter. Living in Canada we have limited time to ride a 45 mm tire in the snow. But I have gotten out on them and the traction is insane. Yesterday I did a 50 km mixed terrain ride that combined pavement, gravel that was pure mud and slop and 5 kms of a iced over gravel walking path. I replaced the Rene Herse Juniper Ridge (which are super grippy) with these and the Cinturato M are staying on, just amazing traction, even on ice and snow. I seated these tubeless with a regular track pump on the first try, my compressor broke, how impressive is that. I am now an official Pirelli fan boy.
Thanks for the review! Really great to see that these tyres last that long. I had schwalbe g-one allround tires on my bike, but after around 2k km the rear thread has become a slick with the canvas showing through at some spots. I did abuse it a bit, but that is half the fun of course. Having something with grip that lasts as well, sounds perfect
This is definitely the best and the most sensible tire review i’ve heard for a long time. I intend to buy a pair of these tires soon and set them up tubeless on my new gravel bike, which came with a pair of Vittoria Terreno Dry that are useless in mud, and rather prone to going flat on rough terrain. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with all of us. Regards from Spain.
Your first review made me bought these tires. I've done on mine over 2kkm and I completely agree, these are awesome.
Glad I could help!
@@JustRideAdelaide I just got the Gravel M paid $71 per Tire.
I went with the gravel H and it immediately became my new favorite tire, thinking maybe I should try the M as well now.
Hey James.......I bought a set of these tyres after your 1st review of them. Love them to bits and won't ride anything else now!!
Hell yeah, great to hear 🤝
Same here haha ... And also got two of my riding buddies to board the hype train!!
Same story here!!!
Upgraded from Schwalbe G One Allrounds, from good to great!
Just done the same following your review. Amazing tyre ... great mix of grip and rolling.
I have these in 40c and run them at 40&45psi. About 1500km in, they got 4-5 punctures within 150-200km. Only ever had one puncture before wich sealed perfectly with tubeless milk. Now, one of the new punctures does not seem to seal. I get tubeless milk splattered onto my seatpost every ride. Front tyre still zero punctures.
Found them so great, bought a new rear one.
Dat pronunciation 👌
Mine are approaching 2000km and still living their best life with zero punctures so far.
I picked up the 700×40 rode a full weekend on them 50% road 50% off road, absolutely no complaints riding pavement. ( off road grip 👌 ) I'm a hobbyist photographer carrying my camera everywhere I ride, having more peace of mind knowing I'm more less likely to slip, crash and damage my camera. Thank you for your review on the Cinturato M
Ive been using them in 45c for 1kkm now and I love them. Super grip and still rolling pretty fast :)
What tire are you using sir?
@@chychy4568feel like most of the answer to this question is heavily implied? Hahah. But I am confident they mean they are running a Pirelli Cinturaro Gravel M in a 45c (45mm) width. Not quite as clear which diameter, but given the test is for a 700c, it's probably 700c (possibly 650b though). 👍
@@trevgev256 I'm sorry, I'm a newbie its my first time to buy a bike and it was Gravel bike.. which is better the M or H?
@@chychy4568 no problem - he does a review of the H as well if you search his vids! Basically if you will use this for a true mix of terrains - gravel, singletrack, road etc all year round (dry and some wet conditions) and don't want to keep switching tyres, go for the M (m for mixed). If you want a fast rolling tyre with predominant use on dry gravel, road and occasional drier singletrack conditions then go for the H. But this dude loves the M because they are an amazingly versatile tyre.
James...I’ve done about 1000km on these tubeless Cinturatos and I’m having the same reliable experience. I’m using 35c (due to clearances on my frame), these tyres have tank-like grip in English winter mud, I can ride across pretty much anything, I just dive in and keep pedalling!
Awesome Richard! Glad to hear you're loving the tyre over in a much more sloppy climate.
I have 1,300 Miles on a set of Ms. 70% of it rural chip and oil in very poor condition, 30% of deep deep gravel and river wash stone. This tire ROCKS! You can't beat their confidence building in the worst of deep loose gravel. I run Tubeless. Total kit weight including myself is about 220 lbs. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. I would buy them again.
Thanks for the video. After 7400 km so far this year, I had 3 punctures in the last 2 months with the Schwalbe G-one Bite. So i was looking for a durable set and am switching to Pirelli. Greetings from Venlo, Netherlands.
I am really enjoying my 700x45 Pirelli Cinturato gravel M, sooo good!! I bought another pair.
Hi, do you know the width you ended up with? What internal size wheel? I’d like to get some but worried about clearance.
@@Thomas-fy9yc i have the bontrager carbon wheels with 25mm internal rim width and the tire ended with 45.1 width after I measured it with caliper. Best bang for your buck.
@@ryand121984 excellent, those will fit my rig perfectly. I’m going to have order them so I didn’t want a $ that wasn’t returnable. Those wheels are the same as my Hunts XWides.
@@Thomas-fy9yc Awesome! enjoy 🤙🏼
I got a pair of these tires thanks to your reviews and they are outstanding. I've never been so confident on a trail and they are not much slower on the pavement then the vittoria terreno zeros I was running. I might try the gravel h in the rear later but I'm so glad I got a set of these. Thanks again for your review! 👍
Did you end up trying H in rear and M on front? How was it?
Can't wait for your GK SS review. I've been riding them since they came out. I have to ride tarmac to get to the gravel and these tires are quick.
the GK SS on the tarmac are super quick. Just road them today for a group ride and they're fantastic
Thanks for the review. I have purchased my first gravel bike ever and got the stock tires changed with Pirelli Cinturato Gravel Mixed with tubeless setup after watching your reviews.
4:22 $100 for a bike tyre my first reaction was f$%k! Those Bridgestones I just put on my car costed only $115 per corner fitted and balanced!
By the way a Pirelli Cinturato P6 car tyre is only $125 and you'd expect 10x the life span.
Bike tyres profit margin is ridiculous.
similar to these aero bikes...$10k bikes
More precison needed is what makes these bike tyres expensive. Bike tyres need to be thin, uniform, strong, and have tiny teeny well designed tread pattern. The mould machining dictates the price, not the rubber material needed. Not to mention the casing material engineering really dictates the ride quality.
In Denmark Gravelkings are still available for the cost of 50 Dollars.
I bought a pair of these when I saw your previous review. I ride from home (San Francisco) to the gravel and was worried about your "vagueness" on the road. But after seeing this review, I'm not so hesitant about riding on the roads with the mixed terrain (M). I haven't had to change my tires yet, but the time is coming soon. Thanks so much for your thorough reviews!
What do you think about running the gravel M on the front and the H on the rear? Seems like it would be a very nice setup. Thanks for the great reviews
I use that setup, a 40c M on the front and 35c H on the rear, for me the best combination.
Thanks! Some of the best reviews on the Internet. Also nice to hear/understand some of your thinking (ie rolling resistance to grip), that is great. I too am coming to gravel from road biking, and there are so many choices and it's more complicated that road for sure. Thanks again!
You convinced me! Just ordered a set of 650b/50mm to replace ageing (not worn) GKs. Can't wait to plop them on and see how they handle the ever changing Flemish surfaces.
Awesome review. Loving this channel dude. Grip > Rolling resistance 👌 I’m riding this type of bike to have fun and not set some sort of record. Do you track tire mileage with Strava? I’m thinking about doing something similar for my reviews.
Cheers Matt! And yep, Strava's gear feature is how I track all my usage. I have all kinds of review gear in there so I can monitor usage and wear. Even Graphenlube!
These are now my favourite tyres and I don’t even have a set yet! Last year I went with the conti Terra on your advice so I’m gonna follow on with the Pirelli. Great review as usual.
It's a shame the gravel tyre market limits itself to 47-50mm for the 650b option. There are plenty of bikes out there with up to 2.1-2.5" tyre clearance but left with only aggressive MTB tyre options. Manufacturers need to step up the tyre widths now!
Honestly if you have the clearance for 2.1+ I would go with thunder Burt’s and just never question it (assuming that’s the volume you need)
Ride them since 3000 km and they´re still fine. Even after heavy bike packing tours in rough terrain.
Great review 👍it’s a shame that prices have gone up so much on so many things regarding bikes it leaves me scratching my head a little bit hope it eventually corrects it self but I’m not holding my breath.
Good review. I reckon the mountain bikers are better off with lower grip tyres when they go to gravel as they are used to the bike sliding around more and can handle it. Depends though how much they were "under tired" on the mtb and level of experience.
If you're on a tight budget the Schwalbe Smart Sam offers a similar tread from $30. Stops hard as you like on gravel and rolls OK on paved surfaces. Not designed for tubeless, but that works out OK when switching to/from GP5000.
What is the exact name? Im a newbie in biking sorry im noob
Just watched your video of the Manson Trail. You used a massive tire and it failed in the sidewall for the second time. I purchase the Pirelli Centurato Mixed 650 b 50mm. I am doing a rough track for 7 days unsupported, the Oregon Outback trail. Will this be enough tire? Your video also showed an Apidura feed bag you didn’t much care for. Try the Revelate Design feedbags. Simple and excellent closure!
Hey Dave, my tyre failures were because of shitty tyres rather than actual damage from riding the trail! I'd absolutely ride these tyres on the Mawson. They'd be excellent and 650x50 would be a nice size. The only problem will be deep mud which no tyre will be good at. At least these will be a good option among gravel tyres!
Think it would be worth it to put one of those in the front and the hard one in the back? Especially for longer tours 4-5k kilometers? or rather something more tarmac focused?
I'm also thinking about replacing a rear Schwalbe X-one with a Cinturato velo, on my bike... they have very high puncture resistance (on paper). Or maybe both.
Are they good for commuting during winter on asphalt and gravel on weekend?
Hey buddy, I'm deciding between this Pirelli and the Gravel King SK 50 for my Cutthroat for gravel on broken terrains, but also for a smooth ride on asphalt in between. I need good grip in wet conditions, dry, or mixed terrains for riding in Melbourne and gravel route around Victoria
Here are the things I consider for comparison:
- Grip on wet terrain
- Grip on dry terrain
- Grip on muddy terrain
- Wear resistance/wear rate
- Rolling resistance
- Puncture resistance
- Cornering ability
- Ease of mounting/seating
- Better value for money
Which of these options should I go with? Also, any other recommendations?
Hi, I got them in the 700x45 to replace my pathfinder pro 38s. On my mixed tarmac and gravel 100km loop, my average speed is as good with lower watts on the Cinturatos, which is great.
I’m not 100% convinced they are the right tyre on really loose pea gravel. Had a few pretty scary slides on them yesterday, but as you mentioned almost anything will suck on pea gravel.
Any other tyres/tread patterns you would recommend for the pea gravel? I have official clearance for 47s.
Regards
Im running the WTB Resolutes in 700x42mm they air up to 44+change on my 21mm ID rims tubeless, I think they do pretty damn good on pea gravel, thats the majority of riding that I do on them. I dont own a set of tires that Ive yet to wear out lol Im always on the search for the perfect tire for pea gravel and loose chonky gravel, the Resolutes are pretty damn close to beeing perfect, right now Im deciding between the Teravail Rutlands in 47mm or the Cinturato M's in 45mm. The search continues!!
Thanks for your reviews. You do a great job. I'm thinking of getting these tyres in 35mm. I was wondering if I should go for the m or the h?
85% of my riding is on tar roads.
I am looking for all-purpose tyres with a bias toward good performance in the UK mud. Do you think the Pirelli's are better than the Teravail Rutlands, WTB Venture, and WTB Resolute?
Update: 2,200 miles on my 700c x 45mm and going strong. I think I can get 3,000 miles out of them. We'll see.
Just slapped these Bad Boys in the 700 x 45c flavour. I had Teravail Washburn semi-slick they’re okay. These roll better over tarmac and gives confidence over the CHONK. By far the best all round gravel tire. I think they pair well with wide drop handlebars.
James you’ve singlehanded cost me the most money of all the cycle channels I frequent!
Bike purchases because of you:
Bontrager Aeolus comp saddle
Wide drop bars (PNW coast 52 cm)
2017 Bombtrack Beyond Plus
Bombtrack BPC fork
Carbon wheel sets for both Bombtrack and my gravel bike.
I hit the subscribe button.
My regards from Canada!
Haha wow, glad to hear I'm emptying your bank account faster than other RUclipsrs! Hopefully all of those recommended things live up to your expectations!
Great info very useful thanks !
Cant wait for SS review too, I used them and I kinda like them. Now building another set of wheel and thinking to try these Cinturato.
BTW, do you think it's silly to use Gravel M front and H on the rear?
Nothing silly about M on the front and H on the rear. I've had quite a few people ask me that and I reckon there's some wisdom to it.
You mention these are "vague" while cornering on tarmac. Curious what kind of limits they have descending on road, and if there's a better all around option for mixed descents.
A lot of the rides/races around me require a climbing and then descending on tarmac to get to a good gravel loop. And I've definitely had trouble on my 42mm Specialized Pathfinder when trying to scrub speed going downhill without washing out.
Hey, it's been like a year so you probably found a solution hahah. The Gravel H version of this tyre would possibly have a slightly faster centre tread but the side knobs are very pronounced in comparison to the centre so would probs not be great either. He did recommend recently the Panaracer Gravelking SS for drier conditions (and I think he said it is faster too) - the tyre profile is more rounded, and the transition from centre tread to side knobs is much more graduated and I think this would be a good compromise if you want a gravel tyre that performs better on road. Check out his review!
Hi, what do you think about using Gravel M front + Gravel H rear for allround setup?
Hi! I would be interested in the topic as well. Did you try this combination?
Agreed! I am think about going this route
Question - have you played with mixing tires like you would in XC MTB? Like would you consider a Cinturato Gravel H for the rear and a Gravel M for the front? Much akin to the beloved Maxxis Aspen/Rekon Race combo for 29ers
Thanks for this just order a set in 700 x 45, can you tell me what is the small bar bag you use? Great reviews thankyou
Also.a big fan of these tyres and use them on a 700c wheel set. Disappointing they don't come in wider sizes though, especially 650b (thinking something like a 54m / 2.1"). How do you think they compare to something like the G-One Bite or Panaracer GravelKing SK (which do come in wider 650b sizes)? - looking for something comparable (or potentially more on the grippy side) for my big volume setup.. thanks.
Can you compare them with the Continental Terra Trail?
Finally Gravelking supplier got in contact with you? I am definitely down the roadie to gravel and low tread ride .. although mine is at least the Pirelli H
Haha yeah Greg we finally synced up after your promoting 😂
It took a long time for the tyres to get here because of limited supply but that gave me more time with the Pirellis ❤️
@@JustRideAdelaide ..good to hear. Your reviews are good and down to earth...no hysterics...no bs
Appreciate it mate! Thanks for your support ❤️
what tire pressure did you run and your weight?
Have you tried the Micheline power gravel yet?
hi there, love your tire reviews. This one sold me on the pirelli's. I riding contidion is 50% dry and 50% wet and ride terrain is 40% road 30% gravel and 30% mud. Are the Pirelli's suitable for this ride conditions? could you suggest better alternatives if any?
Haha... I'm curious now too 😂
What would you recommend for a gravel tire in the width range 47-52 mm purely for racing? Assuming I don't need loads of knobby grip and the conditions are dry.
hello, have you tride gravel s yet? thinking about using it at front keeping m rear
Thanks for the review. Got them following your review. Love the grip and rolling resistance. Coming to this from Road and started on the WTB Sendero (stock tyre on the gravel bike). They are great for winter mud but with the weather getting better in the UK, I wanted a faster rolling tyre but still have grip for dense gravel and single track bits. Thanks again
Glad to help mate!
How would these compare to WTB Nano?
I'm between these and oracle ridge tires. I think the oracle ridge might roll faster.
Hello and thank you for this video.
Any info if the are hookless compatible . Want to fit a pair of 650x50 on my wheels.
Many thanks
Which width was being tested 45mm or 40mm? Thanks
for 80% road 20% off-road pirelli cinturato or schwalbe g-one speed??
What are the wheels on this bike? They look real nice.
Bossi RD1s outta Sydney
Do you use the 35 or 40 mm section ?
Any update on your mentioned gk ss review. I'm thinking of switching to the purely and wondered how it compared. Ive used the gk ss and found them a pain to mount even with an air compressor. I'm currently using vittoria terreno dry and they were a dream to mount and doable with a standard floor pump
The test period on the GravelKing SS is done, I just need to make the video...At the risk of giving away too much, I really like the SS. Totally different to the Pirelli Cinturato Mixed terrain though. If you mostly pound compacted gravel then the GravelKing SS are brilliant. If you need more grip to shred then get the Pirellis.
@@JustRideAdelaide I was more wondering as to how easy the two are to mount in comparison to each other.
For a 50% road and 50% mountain gravel, what is your choice, a Cinturato Mixed 40 or a Hard 45? tks from Brazil.
I have 1,300 Miles on a set of 45mm Ms. 70% of it rural chip and oil in very poor condition, 30% of deep deep gravel and river wash stone. This tire ROCKS! You can't beat their confidence building in the worst of deep loose gravel. I run Tubeless. Total kit weight including myself is about 220 lbs. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. I would buy them again.
Will you do the Contenental Terra Trail review? If they last longer then terra speeds?
I tried to get my hands on some but Conti didn't seem interested. I might get to them eventually 🤔
Another great review well done James ! I’ve got an Ekar group set going on the Bossi next week can’t wait
OMG that's amazing Alan! I'd love to get my hands on Ekar. Your build will be amazing 🤌
@@JustRideAdelaide just waiting on a new free hub body for the rear wheel should be here this week I will send you a pic of the finished build
Please do!
Are you doing voice overs for NSW Solar now? There's a voice that is eerily similar to yours....and it's not about bikes!
Haha! I've been asked this before, specifically about ads solar. I gotta investigate this voiceover stuff. I reckon speaking with my own voice would be a sweet gig!
Would you say H would be just as durable? Thinking H rear & M front
Hmmmm, I don't think the H would last quite as well given how much less tread is on it. I had some puncture issues too that some others have reported in the comments under my video review. Check those out before you spend money ✌️
@@JustRideAdelaide thank you
What size ?
What is the best pressure on these tires?
I run 45mm tubeless. I weigh 190 LBS. Add the bike water and gear and figure 220 LBS. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. 40mm in theory should be just a little more pressure I think.
What width tyres are you using?
I use 45mm.
Try the GK EXT+
Who is the producer of this rims ?
Bossi Bicycles
Did you tried a set of Vittoria Terreno Mix already? 🤓
I have an unused set in my cupboard 😅
@@JustRideAdelaide time to release them then, I'm sure you won't regret 😁
40mm or 45mm?
I run 45mm. Love them. In fact I bought my bike so I could use 45mm tires. Happy with my choice.
Thanks for the review! Just mounted mine on my GT Grade in 40x700. What tyre pressure do you recommend?
Chuck your numbers into here dude and it'll give you a better pressure than I can! axs.sram.com/tirepressureguide
I run 45mm tubeless. I weigh 190 LBS. Add the bike water and gear and figure 220 LBS. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. 40mm in theory should be just a little more pressure I think.
How about some knobby Rene Herse?
Hi, anyone run these in 700x45c ? I’m like to see if they will clear my chain stays and could use a width from someone mounting them on 25-26 internal wheels.
Mine are on DT Swiss with. 24mm internal. They measure 47mm
@@garygumnut4803 47...🤔 my riddlers 45 got up to about that on my Hunts X Wide, so I know I can fit about that...someone mentioned in a previous post the Cinturato H’s reached 45.1 on 25 internal...
@@Thomas-fy9yc I guess it depends where the widest point is, I have seen a bit of variety in that whether it be the side wall or the widest piece of tread. I measured them to be 47mm at the widest point with verniers.
I usually count the side knobs in the width, guess I could mount them and see if it fits, if not then off to eBay or save them for my hopefully near future Surly bike packing rig.
Still your favorite? 😂
Why are manufacturers putting that tan bullsh*t on the tire sidewalls, looks naff imo
"good value" no! No bike tire should cost $100.00!!!
Have to disagree. A set of Maxxis ramblers in British money are £45 each. They’re on the cheap end of a good tyre and they’ve lasted me less than 1200km before needing binned. (Probs should have done it 200km ago) I think if a tyre is giving you more performance, grip, less weight and better durability by a measure of 100%. As with anything that offers that much more over competition, I think they’re within their rights to demand a little more cash. Especially when that extra cost is marginal at a measly £10 extra each.
$100 for tire is a joke. i have been ride for a long long time, beside a set of gatorskin tires....i have never bought brand new tires. Bought used tires for pennies.
Have you tried the WTB Resolute or Teravail Rutland? I am looking at these 3 options and cant decide, it seems all 3 get good reviews.
What size do you used? And what pressure?
These are 40mm and I typically used 30-35 psi in the front and 35-40 in the rear depending on weather and riding conditions.
I run 45mm tubeless. I weigh 190 LBS. Add the bike water and gear and figure 220 LBS. I run 28 PSI in the front and 31 PSI in the back. 40mm in theory should be just a little more pressure I think.