Wonderful timing. I literally just collected pollen from my Pallidiflorum and it’s putting out a second inflo and I am so excited to try and get lil Pallidiflorum babies 🥺💕
Hi! Been watching & learning from you,(& Charmaine), for a few years now. Thank you for all the assistance & help with my plant friends. Ordered from NST for the 1st time last week-soooo excited!! Take Care And truly-my dogs and I love listening to you as we do our plant work. Sometimes if I have to leave for a bit, I’ll say, “Hey guys! Let’s learn some cool stuff from Alice for awhile,” Then I put you on, and act like I’m going into the farthest plant area. I sneak out quietly & hope they have less anxiety about me heading out for short time, 😂 I know. I’m a goober. Great channel!
Great video, Alice!!! Thanks for sharing what you’ve learned! I’ve never tried to pollinate any of my anthuriums yet but this makes me excited to try!!
Ohh my gosh so helpful thank you so much! I am only starting on this, I was gifted some Forgetii berries and it was so rewarding growing them 🌱😊 My Clarinervium has a flower at the moment so I'm going to try and collect some pollen to cross with whoever flowers next for me! ☺️
Hi Alice 😀 I’m trying to grow my first baby seed out, it’s Ace of Spades X with Mag Verde. It just put out its second leaf an thankful for the info in this video. 💚
This is so interesting 🙂 thank you. I'm trying to get some of mine to maturity and one forgetii is flowering and I did my first pollination the other day 😬. I would be so keen to see more videos like this is you remember to film the journey in the future.
OHH, so in regards to cutting off an inflo too prematurely I whole heartedly agree. I had an anthurium clarinervium that had flowered and was told to clip it off. I can attest that the anthurium never recovered and I no longer have that plant 😅
@@youdontevengrowhere yes, I only use it for rooting things and also put some in my soil for more acid balance, no science behind it, but thoud to try. Also really new to me too. But so far, I like it more than moss, transition is so much easier. Wouldnt use it for big plants on its own, its too expensiv for that, but propably a good medium to grow seeds aswell. If I have some, I would deffinitly try.
I pollinated my forgetii with itself. It’s berries are ready and so far I’ve collected 60 berries and 89 seeds 😮. It still has berries on the inflorescence. It was my first plant that I pollinated. It was very stressful.
loving all your anthurium vids as ive also been bitten by the bug haha, i got a couple seedlings and the dorayki x forgetii just put out suchhhh a pretty silvery leaf!!
It would make sense if there was nutrient reabsorption when a flower dies off, its what happens with leaves. I did find an academic journal that published almost 30 years ago but it does talk about nutrient reabsorption from flowers. It's called "A dynamic perspective on the physiological cost of reproduction in plants" by Tia-Lynn Ashman (1994). I will say the study is not free, but the basic conclusion is that yes plants do reabsorb the nutrients in the flower after is reaches maturity and is unpollinated. The only nutrients that are not reabsorbed is that which is put into the pollen.
@@youdontevengrowhere they did give a percentage on what they called reabsorption efficiency on each part of the flower (the sepal, the petals, and the ovary) for two specific nutrients (nitrogen and phosphorus). But to give a little background in to how they did this to compare before and after values: they basically let the plant flower and as it reached maturity they cut off half of the flowers before senescence could occur and collected data on how much nutrients where in those parts of the flowers. They then let the other half of the flowers die off and then collected the dead flowers and then found out how much nitrogen and phosphorus where left in those parts of the flower. So for nitrogen the reabsorption efficiency for the sepal (68.6%), the petals (53.2%), and the ovary (76.6%) - give or take about 1-3% for each of these values. And for phosphorus (in the same order as above) 56.2%, 43.5%, and 77.1% - give or take 3-7% for these values. They also did have numbers for the amount of micrograms of nutrients where in these specific parts of the flowers both before and after reabsorption. And I was a little shocked that there is more nutrients in the sepal and petals combined than in the ovary itself (almost 6x more of both N and P).
But I will say it doesn't give data on the nutrients used to maintain basically all the reproductive parts. That would probably have to be researched some more.
Hi Alice!! I have a quick question. I bought a “magnificum “ from Logees.(in person). When I first heard that mags have square petioles, I checked my plant and it does not have square petioles that I can tell, at all. So I went on RUclips and searched anthurium magnificum, to see if other people speaking about this plant also state that the petioles are square. The first video I clicked on, ironically, was a Logees video on their mags that they grow and sell. The square petioles were not mentioned, but the owner of Logees went on and on about their mags and how they have been growing them for decades and he even showed their “Mother plant”. After watching their video, I felt more confident that what I purchased from them was a magnificum. Now I’m hearing you say that mags have square petioles. My Logees “Mag” has recently put out 2 new leaves and their shape is crazy looking!! I have 4 original leaves, and now 2 additional leaves, and the 2 newest leaves look completely different from all of the original leaves on the plant. They’re very round and the sinuses are very small. Now I am even more suspicious about the type of anthurium I have!!! Can you tell me how I can figure out what type of anthurium I’m growing? I don’t have any planty friends nor do I know anyone personally that I can ask! I know you’re super busy, but if you could help ID this plant, or point me to someone that may be able to help me, I would really appreciate it. I’d LOVE to know what I’m growing!!! I love your videos and learn so much from you. Thank you for all of the hard work and time you put into your content! -Nora
Hi Nora! I looked up the Logees mag video and their mother plant doesn’t look to me like a pure mag but it does share some characteristics like the square(ish) petioles as well as the leaf blade curving backwards. My guess is that is a hybrid but personally I would post photos of the plant (leaf blade, petiole, stem) on the Anthurium Enthusiasts Facebook group and see what they think! I would also share the back story because someone else may own the same plant and have gotten a conclusive answer ☺️
@@youdontevengrowhere thank you so much for responding!! I appreciate your help and I will definitely join the fb group and post some pictures on it! I appreciate you!
Great content 😊 I really enjoyed the info you shared. I recently pollinated my Dark Besseae with Dark Crystallinum 🤞 I peek at it a million times a day in the hopes of seeing some signs of success LOL
HellooOoo! Thank you for making this video! I was curious as to how many (if any) variegated plants you managed to get out of this pollination. I also wanted to give you a lil info on what I learned through my journey of self pollinating (as an amateur plant mom of course). ~~ SooOoo ~ I pollinated my mag x crystal with pollen from itself and found that when you do, it has a much higher success rate of producing the what I like to call “Shiny Plantémon” (variegated plant). I believe this is due to the fact that the coveted “shiny” is a mutation in itself so when pollinating with itself you get a much higher success rate to obtain said “Shiny”. (this seems to make sense in my mind). With this pollination attempt I have produced 14 variegated plants in total (4 of which i gave away to friends and the rest i am growing currently). I could obviously kill them along the way but as of now this is my newest discovery when it comes to self pollination. ~~ Please ignore if this is reads as complete nonsense. ~ *__* ~ P.s. Your eyeshadow in this video is phenomenal, can’t get over it. ~
Was this your first and only attempt that produced 14 variegated plants and out of how many seeds did you collect in this batch? It's been a year since you posted- anymore updates on the survival of these variegated plants and other findings.
Definitely! And that is the only advice that is ever given, so it must be grounded in truth. I’m just super curious if there are any studies as to whether the reabsorption from a naturally dying flower would make up for the majority of nutrients spent 🤔
I just pollinated my black crystal with Carla X dorayaki pollen I hope it took. If it did take will the inflo still produce pollen or does it skip that part?
CRAP I knew I forgot to mention something! A successfully pollinated plant will still produce pollen, although sometimes a plant will skip the pollen stage altogether if it’s juvenile
The two best are Anthurium Enthusiasts and Philodendron Enthusiasts! I recently joined Anthuriums and Anthurium Addicts and these have been super fun to scroll as well. Lots of hybrid talk 😀
This is an educational guess, so basically i think the plant already committed some energy into differentiating its cells to become inflorescence, but these cells need to further replicate and mature which consumes more energy and nutrients. And of course inflorescence lasts long so it would need additional energy, and so i think just cutting it off would reduce the enrgy cost.
Seems like there's no way it takes less from the plant to let it grow a whole inflo, produce stigmatic fluid, and then produce pollen rather than just cutting it off from the start
Rad x lux is not sterile :) it has been proven, same with Queen of hearts they are just very hard and inconsistant when polinating a lot of the time the pollon will fall off sadly 😅
I don't know about you but the look of anthurium producing berries is just so nasty 🤣. I didn't have any pollen donors so I just pollinated the same plan with its own pollen that I saved with the first inflo I ever got.
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Wonderful timing. I literally just collected pollen from my Pallidiflorum and it’s putting out a second inflo and I am so excited to try and get lil Pallidiflorum babies 🥺💕
Pallidiflorum babies stop it right now 🥹🥹
Hi!
Been watching & learning from you,(& Charmaine), for a few years now.
Thank you for all the assistance & help with my plant friends.
Ordered from NST for the 1st time last week-soooo excited!!
Take Care
And truly-my dogs and I love listening to you as we do our plant work.
Sometimes if I have to leave for a bit, I’ll say, “Hey guys! Let’s learn some cool stuff from Alice for awhile,”
Then I put you on, and act like I’m going into the farthest plant area.
I sneak out quietly & hope they have less anxiety about me heading out for short time,
😂
I know. I’m a goober.
Great channel!
This was super helpful Alice! One of the best I’ve seen tbh. Thank you 💚
Thank you Sherry!! 🫶🏻
I adore you Alice!!
And I adore YOU! 🥺🫶🏻
Great video, Alice!!! Thanks for sharing what you’ve learned! I’ve never tried to pollinate any of my anthuriums yet but this makes me excited to try!!
🥳🥳 thank you Megan!
Ohh my gosh so helpful thank you so much! I am only starting on this, I was gifted some Forgetii berries and it was so rewarding growing them 🌱😊 My Clarinervium has a flower at the moment so I'm going to try and collect some pollen to cross with whoever flowers next for me! ☺️
Fantastic video Alice! I've have quite a few anthurium and have been very curious has to how this is done. Hopefully I can do my own experiments soon!
Such a great video! So informative. Thank you!
Awesome, I'm so glad you did this video!
Thank you!! ❤️❤️
I needed this video! Thanks, Alice! 🌱🌱
Hi Alice 😀 I’m trying to grow my first baby seed out, it’s Ace of Spades X with Mag Verde. It just put out its second leaf an thankful for the info in this video. 💚
That’s so exciting Sherry!!
@@youdontevengrowhere 💚 It is being my first. With your tips I won’t kill it lol
This is so interesting 🙂 thank you. I'm trying to get some of mine to maturity and one forgetii is flowering and I did my first pollination the other day 😬. I would be so keen to see more videos like this is you remember to film the journey in the future.
I’ll definitely film the next stages of collecting berries and planting seeds!
OHH, so in regards to cutting off an inflo too prematurely I whole heartedly agree. I had an anthurium clarinervium that had flowered and was told to clip it off. I can attest that the anthurium never recovered and I no longer have that plant 😅
Maybe you can also try fluval stratium for the seeds. Very easy to get off the roots.
I’m *finally* getting around to trying stratum, but it’s too early to tell if I like it yet 😅 I have a feeling I will like it for anthuriums though!
@@youdontevengrowhere yes, I only use it for rooting things and also put some in my soil for more acid balance, no science behind it, but thoud to try. Also really new to me too. But so far, I like it more than moss, transition is so much easier. Wouldnt use it for big plants on its own, its too expensiv for that, but propably a good medium to grow seeds aswell. If I have some, I would deffinitly try.
I pollinated my forgetii with itself. It’s berries are ready and so far I’ve collected 60 berries and 89 seeds 😮. It still has berries on the inflorescence. It was my first plant that I pollinated. It was very stressful.
Dang that’s a big berry haul! Congratulations 🥳
Just curious! How long it took from the day of pollination to harvesting ?
loving all your anthurium vids as ive also been bitten by the bug haha, i got a couple seedlings and the dorayki x forgetii just put out suchhhh a pretty silvery leaf!!
Oooohhhhh is it like a super silver forgetii?!
@@youdontevengrowhere it's currently still got lobes bc its sooo small but im hoping it maybe decides to drop them haha
It would make sense if there was nutrient reabsorption when a flower dies off, its what happens with leaves.
I did find an academic journal that published almost 30 years ago but it does talk about nutrient reabsorption from flowers. It's called "A dynamic perspective on the physiological cost of reproduction in plants" by Tia-Lynn Ashman (1994). I will say the study is not free, but the basic conclusion is that yes plants do reabsorb the nutrients in the flower after is reaches maturity and is unpollinated. The only nutrients that are not reabsorbed is that which is put into the pollen.
Thank you so much for sharing this!!! 😍
Do you recall if the paper commented on how much was reabsorbed relative to the amount spent on the flower?
@@youdontevengrowhere they did give a percentage on what they called reabsorption efficiency on each part of the flower (the sepal, the petals, and the ovary) for two specific nutrients (nitrogen and phosphorus). But to give a little background in to how they did this to compare before and after values: they basically let the plant flower and as it reached maturity they cut off half of the flowers before senescence could occur and collected data on how much nutrients where in those parts of the flowers. They then let the other half of the flowers die off and then collected the dead flowers and then found out how much nitrogen and phosphorus where left in those parts of the flower.
So for nitrogen the reabsorption efficiency for the sepal (68.6%), the petals (53.2%), and the ovary (76.6%) - give or take about 1-3% for each of these values. And for phosphorus (in the same order as above) 56.2%, 43.5%, and 77.1% - give or take 3-7% for these values.
They also did have numbers for the amount of micrograms of nutrients where in these specific parts of the flowers both before and after reabsorption. And I was a little shocked that there is more nutrients in the sepal and petals combined than in the ovary itself (almost 6x more of both N and P).
But I will say it doesn't give data on the nutrients used to maintain basically all the reproductive parts. That would probably have to be researched some more.
Hi Alice!! I have a quick question. I bought a “magnificum “ from Logees.(in person). When I first heard that mags have square petioles, I checked my plant and it does not have square petioles that I can tell, at all. So I went on RUclips and searched anthurium magnificum, to see if other people speaking about this plant also state that the petioles are square. The first video I clicked on, ironically, was a Logees video on their mags that they grow and sell. The square petioles were not mentioned, but the owner of Logees went on and on about their mags and how they have been growing them for decades and he even showed their “Mother plant”. After watching their video, I felt more confident that what I purchased from them was a magnificum. Now I’m hearing you say that mags have square petioles. My Logees “Mag” has recently put out 2 new leaves and their shape is crazy looking!! I have 4 original leaves, and now 2 additional leaves, and the 2 newest leaves look completely different from all of the original leaves on the plant. They’re very round and the sinuses are very small. Now I am even more suspicious about the type of anthurium I have!!! Can you tell me how I can figure out what type of anthurium I’m growing? I don’t have any planty friends nor do I know anyone personally that I can ask! I know you’re super busy, but if you could help ID this plant, or point me to someone that may be able to help me, I would really appreciate it. I’d LOVE to know what I’m growing!!! I love your videos and learn so much from you. Thank you for all of the hard work and time you put into your content! -Nora
Hi Nora! I looked up the Logees mag video and their mother plant doesn’t look to me like a pure mag but it does share some characteristics like the square(ish) petioles as well as the leaf blade curving backwards. My guess is that is a hybrid but personally I would post photos of the plant (leaf blade, petiole, stem) on the Anthurium Enthusiasts Facebook group and see what they think! I would also share the back story because someone else may own the same plant and have gotten a conclusive answer ☺️
@@youdontevengrowhere thank you so much for responding!! I appreciate your help and I will definitely join the fb group and post some pictures on it! I appreciate you!
Great content 😊 I really enjoyed the info you shared. I recently pollinated my Dark Besseae with Dark Crystallinum 🤞 I peek at it a million times a day in the hopes of seeing some signs of success LOL
That’s gonna be such a fun cross!!!! Bessies have really grown on me a ton over the last few months. I’m so excited for you!
HellooOoo! Thank you for making this video!
I was curious as to how many (if any) variegated plants you managed to get out of this pollination.
I also wanted to give you a lil info on what I learned through my journey of self pollinating (as an amateur plant mom of course). ~~
SooOoo ~ I pollinated my mag x crystal with pollen from itself and found that when you do, it has a much higher success rate of producing the what I like to call “Shiny Plantémon” (variegated plant).
I believe this is due to the fact that the coveted “shiny” is a mutation in itself so when pollinating with itself you get a much higher success rate to obtain said “Shiny”. (this seems to make sense in my mind).
With this pollination attempt I have produced 14 variegated plants in total (4 of which i gave away to friends and the rest i am growing currently). I could obviously kill them along the way but as of now this is my newest discovery when it comes to self pollination. ~~
Please ignore if this is reads as complete nonsense. ~ *__* ~
P.s. Your eyeshadow in this video is phenomenal, can’t get over it. ~
Was this your first and only attempt that produced 14 variegated plants and out of how many seeds did you collect in this batch? It's been a year since you posted- anymore updates on the survival of these variegated plants and other findings.
A botanist friend of mine (20+ years of experience) has said to just cut it, so I do that. She does this with her own personal collection too 🙂
Definitely! And that is the only advice that is ever given, so it must be grounded in truth. I’m just super curious if there are any studies as to whether the reabsorption from a naturally dying flower would make up for the majority of nutrients spent 🤔
does AxB mean A is the flower and B is the pollen plant?
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I just pollinated my black crystal with Carla X dorayaki pollen I hope it took. If it did take will the inflo still produce pollen or does it skip that part?
CRAP I knew I forgot to mention something! A successfully pollinated plant will still produce pollen, although sometimes a plant will skip the pollen stage altogether if it’s juvenile
@@youdontevengrowhere thank you 😊
how long does it take from the moment the inflorescence pops out to the start of the female stage?
In my experience when the spadix is completely out it’s only a few days before I start seeing stigmatic fluid
Anyways I love you but also like what are some of these more educational FB groups you and Charmaine have mentioned? I’d love to join them!
The two best are Anthurium Enthusiasts and Philodendron Enthusiasts! I recently joined Anthuriums and Anthurium Addicts and these have been super fun to scroll as well. Lots of hybrid talk 😀
This is an educational guess, so basically i think the plant already committed some energy into differentiating its cells to become inflorescence, but these cells need to further replicate and mature which consumes more energy and nutrients. And of course inflorescence lasts long so it would need additional energy, and so i think just cutting it off would reduce the enrgy cost.
This makes a lot of sense! And of course with reabsorption you won’t be able to take back all the immobile nutrients that make up the cell walls 🤔
Seems like there's no way it takes less from the plant to let it grow a whole inflo, produce stigmatic fluid, and then produce pollen rather than just cutting it off from the start
And that’s probably the reason why everyone is advised to just cut off inflos from the start, but that one botanist’s comment really got in my head 😂
Rad x lux is not sterile :) it has been proven, same with Queen of hearts they are just very hard and inconsistant when polinating a lot of the time the pollon will fall off sadly 😅
I don't know about you but the look of anthurium producing berries is just so nasty 🤣. I didn't have any pollen donors so I just pollinated the same plan with its own pollen that I saved with the first inflo I ever got.
I have trypophobia and by some stroke of luck the anthurium berries don’t trigger it 😂
ugh you are so forgetiiful
Uhmmm I will take your seeds!!! 🫣🫣 will totally purchase them from you!!