These weapons were certainly needed to counter the new titan meta but their power got almost cut by half and even more in cases where healing and resistance comes to matter. In the worst case scenario I would have kept the firing interval at 0.5 instead of 0.8, decrease the rust effect as it is in the update notes and remove the +15 dmg bonus.
AYGIR, bro, honestly, I love this nerf. I quit WR like 8 months ago, but I keep watching your videos because you're the best of the best, I love how you compare weapons after and before nerfs or buffs,.. back to why I love this change (aka nerf) is because homing machine guns or rockets are stupid, those weapons took away all the fun and skills in this game, because you can't hide or Doge those weapons which is stupid if you think that I tactic game you should be able to outplay your enemy, I've never been a fun of non brain cells weapons that's why I always sell them, they are not fair. I've been playing to come back to WR but every time I watched a full squad battle it grossed me up because long long ago clans fights were exacting and really skillful, nowadays you literally need two brain cells to play well. I'm happy if I'm coming back to wr I won't have to deal with those awful weapons, anyways I really love your content and keep it up. 😄
0 habilidad con esas armas al igual que con la armas teledirigidas, lo admito fue divertido destruir a los palomillas o avispados qué juegan mucho al día con la ayuda de meta, pero era NECESARIO
@@igoogle7375 Do you remember a thing called 3 second lock-on time? Y'know, that thing the old devs coded to balance to ALL auto-aiming weapons? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Dude I was running a nether with mk2 cruel claw and mars with mk2 jaws, and now there fking worthless Fck you war robots and fck you pixonic, @tropical1675 I totally agree with you
I knew this was going to happen, but what’s upsetting for me at least is that 19 TALON weapons were the majority of prizes from the fortune palace event. The audacity of the game to offer such a screwy drop rate for a weapon they were planning to destroy when I could have won so many better prizes (and yes some openings consisted of all three weapon variants, the three options were pretty much identical, so it wasn’t just bad luck). What am I supposed to do with all these now? I can’t be the only one right?
Your not the only one. They nerfed these weapons to the ground just like the Fafnir, Snaer, Skadi, and Hel. Its a complete scam. These weapons should have still had the high fire rate, but I wouldn't mind the rust nerf and maybe a damage nerf. These weapons are practically useless now, kinda sad.
That's why they got nerfed so hard in the first place. Normal players had them and they'd be too useful against maxed titan pilots and reaper crisis. Can't have peasants staying out of line of sight of our big bad robots and not letting them heal. They'd actually win that way. No, no, no. Its very important that you do very little damage, stay in front of the enemy robot where he can see you and do not stop him healing.
From my experience in WR, this is as bad as the time fafnir was heavily nerfed to the ground instead of being balanced, now the weapons' fire rate is so awkwardly bad
The problem isn't the severity of the nerf itself but if the nerf was deserved or not and looking back at it Fafnir didn't deserve to be nerfed at all because the Hmgs Siren/Harpy builds were already in the live server and made Fafnir drop out of the meta even before it's nerf while the rust weapons dominated the meta for over half a year which is unhealthy for the game and Pixonic's wallet.
Yeah, though it requires skill to take advantage of that additional damage, firing in sequence seems do the trick, firing all at once leaves you quite vulnerable and your kill could easily escape from you. They seem still viable maxed but anything less than MK2 is useless.
In my opinion these weapons did need a nerf of some kind but not like this, these weapons were made to be bursty rockets that dealt a lot of damage quickly and the added “rust” effect minimised how much healing the opponent can do making them better at taking down tanky bots, I think decreasing the rust effect and increasing reload time would be a good nerf but not rate of fire especially not by this much. Personally I’ve switched my 4x Claw on Nether to 4x Quarker and Claw and Talon on Angler to the Hammer and Cudgel
This proves how incompetent Pixonic is when trying to rebalance a weapon "lets give it more damage and ruin the firing interval, also lets nerf the rust effect by a quarter so people stop complaining about it" The thing is this family of weapons were interesting when they were introduced but they always were so damn broken it stopped being fun, typical Pixonic looking for a quick cash grab before nerfing a new weapon to the ground
I won a Talon but I am sure glad I didn't waste any resources on upgrading it because it looks like a joke now. Does Pixonic even have anyone that tests the gameplay before they introduce a change to the game? Like the Reapers, there is no way a weapon with that kind of firepower and range and able to bypass defence should be allowed. It's like they are trying to take brawling out of the game
They don't care about tests, clearly. Otherwise, all auto-aiming weapons would have 3-second lock-on time, as the old devs had already tested that as an adequate balancing measure for all auto-aiming weapons. It seems test server exists mostly for advertising and hyping new stuff, to get spenders and assorted bored individuals to forget about refining the game as it is and instead get excited for brand new thingies.
These nerfs are a reminder only level up new weapons for one robot only. It's senseless leveling up so many new weapons and they are nerfed within few weeks.
They completely destroyed those weapons like they did to the freeze weapons. They go overboard when they make a new weapon and when they nerf. It's sad...
Yeah they got nerfed REAL hard. I checked Legend league players hangars and they all switched off their rust rockets with other weapons... Pixonic just also shadownerfed the Overheating lasers. They said the overheating takes 7 seconds but in game it is actually 5 seconds. If you have these weapons check it out yourself... This sucks man
Think they did the same thing with the lasers too, made them overheat quicker but also gave a small base dmg increase, still usable imo. Just makes them more of a burst damage sniper. Still nothing can beat reaper
@@crazyl3unny7 That is true bro, Reapers will most likely get the same treatment as rust rockets once enough of them got sold out... But yes lasers are still usable at least, they balanced them correctly
@@alexwarrobots710 they just took reapers out of all the chests so that normal players can't have them. That means it'll be a while til there's a reaper nerf. Reapers are for rich people to fight p2w titans with, rust rocket nerfs are to make sure normal players can't fight them easily. If you could lower their healing and not have to get shot by alpha weapons to fight back then you'd actually have a fair chance against a max level titan pilot max level titan. And we can't allow that.
@@alexdavies5705 man titans with pilots are so overpowered that i doubt pre nerf rust weapons could have done anything, a Luchador or 2 mil hp Rook would take like 3 guys running rust rockets to do something, but it would work since they lower your healing, now it won't matter anymore cause of the nerf. Also i think there will be a second stage to this event where the Crisis and Reapers will come back with a special edition version, the one you see when you log in the game, so the Reaper nerf might come in like a couple months or so...
Maybe make it -less clip -less rust eff percentage -half the last atk spd The problem was they stack high penalty on regen n deff too much n too fast. Btw, camper meta is coming too. 😂
yeah the nerf was much worse than it said, even with the pilot (which you now need to use otherwise the gun is useless) it just makes it how it was before
When they have nerfed stuff in the past, it obviously wouldn’t be as good but you could still use it if you really wanted to. This nerf is so bad that the weapon are actually unusable. The fact that they are willing to do this kind of thing now really makes me worry about investing in new things. Yes Pixonic has done this kinda bull crap before but never this bad.
Reminds me of the Orkan nerf. I had upgraded 2 Jaw highly for the sake of reliving Orkan/Ember Lancelot days. As soon as I started getting more Jaws, I was wary and didn't upgrade them. Good thing I didn't, since now they were killed same as Orkan. Can't let us have good short-range rocket weapons.
Hey Aygir I have an idea for a way to bypass the fire rate nerf on PC. As you know, by pressing the number keys up to 4 you can select which weapons you don't want to fire when you press M2. I had the idea that you could alternate fire by making half the weapons shoot, then having the other weapons shoot about 0.4 seconds later. I don't know if that would work though.
It does the same, if not even a little bit less damage than it would normally, since you are going to have a slight delay shooting the rockets if you fire it like that.
To compensate the rate of fire, the damage increased but lower rust, so basically it's just same before nerf but to pair it up to do quicker kill that before nerf had the damage just increased so it's just lower speed high damage mainly, if they got nerf this hard pixonic should instead delete this to begin with, then they don't have an idea to make rook, although making the new weapon for bot and argon weapon like that just for marketing benefits since people buy for it then they nerf it later. I agree with aygir that no dmg buff need, just decent rof nerf and rust too.
this is just too painful, I invested on getting these claw weapons for my khepri just to have them be useless now. this is why i hate the new Devs/owners for WR. They want us to spend and when we do get them, they are just going to nerf them and all the irl money and resources used to upgrade them ruins the game. tbh they need to add a Weapon stats reset for cost of gold or whatever to refund all the resources spent on upgrading those weapons and robots, so we can use the resources on upgrading others stuff. Right now im using old weapons that are fair and works better for the league im in, screw all the new stuff, the grenade launcher weapons are going to get a nerf in 3 months time, so no need for them.
It's always like that, I don't know how long you've been in the game but what they do is nothing new, not investing in OP things like Not going up the league is the best, you enjoy the game by not being competitive in lower-middle leagues is what better
Even if their so-called "grenade launchers" don't get nerfed, it is unwise to spend on weapons until at least all previous weapons of the same tier are properly balanced among themselves. I think that condition has not been met since the Orkan nerf some centuries ago.
i'm glad these weapons got nerfed. too many people hiding behind buildings for entire matches and using phase shift + angler ability to run away. i wish they were nerfed more.
Do you check enemy levels or do you have anger issues? Your gladness here isn't of much value if, like Pixonic, you can't grasp the concept of balance. I, for one, kept my rust rockets on older robots to try and make up for Pixonic's incompetence.
@@thenthtinkerer7635 you have no idea what you're talking about. using rust rockets on old robots? so you're clearly hiding and shooting from cover, must be so much fun for you and everyone else in the match. i've been playing this game for years in champions league and i created one of the strongest clans #1 on PC platform, i am very aware of current balancing and the meta problems. again, you have no idea what you're talking about, you are just salty because you wasted money on a cash grab universal setup that is now useless instead of building setups that stand the test of time and require any semblance of skill
@@VenomRaiden619 i think i started playing late 2017 or early 2018, it didnt seem dead back then, but i think you might say it was dead because of the Dash bots and robots like Spectre, Trebuchet Butch and Fury, And other similar ones
Pixonic has no idea how to rebalance the game. They introduce new OP meta and then over-nerf it a few cycles later. This was way too much of a nerf. I concur with your assessment; they needed a slight "rust" effect and damage nerf, but the reload/unload time was well-balanced.
Why are you acting this is new? We all knew this was going to happen. This is why I don't spend money on new weapons or robots. I don't follow the meta either.
You yourself are to blame, no one forces you to follow the OP, it is useless to be competitive in this game. They always end up nerfing what is predominant in the game, going up the league and following the OP is not worth it in this game
@@MaximilianoGT1 Who said he follows the OP? I, for example, used these rust rockets only to the extent they allowed me to make color-matching builds (avoiding the obvious bait like CrUeL cLaW + cRuEl AnGlEr, of course). Who asked Pixonic to start giving away more and more of them, to prepare a excuse for this nerf? As they kept pouring in, I simply didn't upgrade them. One can still recognize when a nerf is excessive.
Guys the thing is some weapons and robots don't get nerfed, the orochi was meta bit didn't get nerfed as well as the corrosion weapons, and the bendy bullets did have a slight nerf but they are still useful, so pixonic just nerfing these weapons so hard is just something they do sometimes, I mean do you guys remember the Fafnir meta, the freezing lasers have really been nerfed and the Fafnir is now slower than a fart in the wind. War robots meta is like a biased coin toss, sometimes the weapon doesn't get nerfed, other times it does, other times it gets nerfed so hard it suddenly becomes a new worse version of the weapon.
Nerfing the firerate of these weapons in any way was going to ruin them. They literally cant function with a low firerate because they were made to have high one. These weapons needed a damage nerf not a firerate nerf. The fact that pixonic nerfed the firerate makes it clear they had one goal and one goal only, killing the weapons.
la verdad en este nerf solo me afecto una claw veo muchos quejándose del juego, no se si son nuevos o veteranos de cualquier modo el juego siempre ha sido asi no se por que se quejan, personalmente no soy competitivo y me mantengo en ligas medias bajas así disfruto de lo nerfeado si aun funciona en este caso las mataron completamente, ni aun en ligas bajas sirven
Because of that nerf I switched to the Cryo ilon Ravana a week prior. And I regret the fact that I don't have any range weapon. At least there is less brawling
Damn now need 1 minute to destroying 1 robot. Last night i was playing, notice what happen with my claw is very slow i tough something wrong with my tablet. Now i see the problem.
Great information and I agree! I love the new look of the charts. IMO they look much better! Colors are a bit much but that's just nitpicking (sorry.) Keep up the great work 👍👍
They lost their minds with the Orkan nerf. This is a slightly different form of scumminess, given that they straight up gave rust rockets away to set up the excuse for nerfing them, but still.
This nerf was undeserved, the rust and all being decreased is understandable but the shot interval is too much, at least 5.6 or 6.3 would have been fine
Even though a lot of players used these weapons with their Nether robots which really annoyed me, the nerf is over the top. It renders these weapons quite weak
These got nerfed for a simple reason. Average players had them and there wasn't enough of a gap between average players and p2w players while these were at their original strength. They couldn't remove them from your inventory so they made them weak. They never drastically outperformed any reasonable weapon in the first place. They'd just be too useful against the max level p2w titan pilots and reaper crisis so they had to nerf them so hard they'd be all but useless. Can't have all these peasants beating people who pay hundreds of dollars every event after all
Why they always gotta do these killjoy things, how about just nerf dmg. Same with bots, never nerf the speed of things. This change the character of the weapon. Nerfs and buffs should just be slight tweaks, not sledgehammering blows.
Homie bullet, Hammer blast charge, Decays, then Spear and Talon is the worsest one. I enjoyed them all but from now on just get new weapons for 1 bot that's it.
It was the Rook killer thats why. QUESTION!! GUYS, what weapon do you recommend to kill Rook fast, Old flamethrow? Incinerator? Glacier? Please, thank you: = )
I have maxed incinerators on my seraph and they do nothing to a rook. Only thing that can dent that health bar is my Minos with 3evora and 3 cannibal reactors
@@rowankeltizar5961 and my Zmej Murometz at level 150 with Quantum sensor module + 2× Veyron and 1× Stellar Evora + 2× Onslaught and 1× Cannibal reactor + Titan pilot Yang Lee at level 100. And this all in combination with stealth in the air + EMP attack. And i have the possibility option to make this damage more through one Onslaught/or Cannibal reactor more instead of my Quantum sensor module. And through change some titan pilot skills and use more damage skills give my Murometz titan more damage power too.
This ain't a nerf for my Talon,Jaw Fenrir its more like a balance bcz they also increased dmg by 15% Edit: I Tried it it's worse i spent my gold to speed up its upgrade and loads of silver😢
They increased the firing rate by nearly half a second beyween shots and decrease the rust effect by 25%!! What an absolute joke!! They make the maximum amount of money they can out of their players who buy and upgrade these weapons then make them completely useless. Conveniently right before they release a new set of weapons. This game has become a blatant rip off these days and I really have had enough at this point. I'm investing not one more penny into this game. I'm just going to make use of what I already have.
Too much nerf 😢. 0.5 sec intervals would have been enough and reducing rust effect by 10% would have been enough. Oh well...back to the flames I guess.
Be careful. Pixonic once tried to nerf the flames and then backpedaled _supposedly_ because of player feedback. They don't really care for balance. You gotta hope they don't start giving away flames like they did with these rust rockets, just to set up an excuse for nerfing them.
rust weapons are the counter weapons against rook titan. so pixonic make these worthless intentionally to sell new blast weapons and squeeze money from us.😅 that’s what pixonic does.😂
The rust rockets was a danger for new titan Rook and got big nerf. New things have priority by Pixonic and get temporary advantages for better sell. Current i see often Rook titans in my battles now. Pixonic know good how to make money with this game.
@@midnightlanterns not leveled and my Nether dies fast. Rust weapons were accurate and allowed me to stay behind cover when I was taking too much damage.
@@MrJesiah3 yeah my nether is level 10 and 4 level 7 sheriff magnetars (1x nuke amp and manni pilot because I don’t have Everett), it does a lot of damage in expert 2 and expert 3 league
@@MrJesiah3 ah, my bad. But I think Adrian did a video where he used magnetar nether in champion league and it performed well, so it’s an alternative to the rust rockets. I’ve also seen people saying halo works on it, but I haven’t seen any videos of people playing it in champions league, so no clue on that one
Quedaron fatal, en verdad yo queria un nerf a estas armas ya que son muy molestas en ligas bajas y demasiado efectiva en los tanques, aunque como dice aygir podrian haberlas dejado un poco mejor, pero pixo las destruyo, curiosamente me recuerda al nerf brutal que le dieron a las hel, skadi y snaer en su momento, buen vide aygir
En ligas bajas debes asegurarte de revisar los niveles de los enemigos si te parecen muy fuertes. Facilmente te ponen contra gente con todo a MK2 y si no revisas piensas que las armas sencillamente son demasiado fuertes. En fin, juegos mentales de Pixonic.
this update wasn’t what i expected the claw etc became total trash now. my bots that uses claw etc can easily be destroyed by a bot that i can destroy in less then 2 minutes and now will take me the whole game to just get a kill😂 this is bad for the players who uses this weapons. seems like we will have to use another weapon until they fix this situation.
Mars + 3 jaw were my favourite setup. But now I don't feel like playing this game anymore. I spent my real money on this stupid game, but no more war robots now. F you pixonic
For those that say you cant hide from the weapon, it sounds like a skill issue, why dont you use some of your brain and just face hug a wall? Also hope you are ready for hurricane.
No one will buy new grenade launchers if these were strong...so nerfed them to oblivion now everyone has them. Pix profit management strategies will be doing this....remember in next two updates they will nerf the grenade launchers as well 😂😂😂😂
Or they won't, because mind games. Then the next weapons after that, they will nerf hard. The smart thing is to not spend money on any weapons or robots until previous weapons/robots are all properly balanced relative to each other, according to their prices as AYGIR's Stake vs. Thunder video showed, for example. Then, if Pixonic would stubbornly rather let the game die than balance things, good riddance. One less pebble in humanity's path to better things 🙄
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These weapons were certainly needed to counter the new titan meta but their power got almost cut by half and even more in cases where healing and resistance comes to matter. In the worst case scenario I would have kept the firing interval at 0.5 instead of 0.8, decrease the rust effect as it is in the update notes and remove the +15 dmg bonus.
rust effect decreased only 22,5% defense and 48,75% of healing. pixonic best scammers!!!
3:32 before 7,2 and after 19,2 or im not right?
AYGIR, bro, honestly, I love this nerf. I quit WR like 8 months ago, but I keep watching your videos because you're the best of the best, I love how you compare weapons after and before nerfs or buffs,.. back to why I love this change (aka nerf) is because homing machine guns or rockets are stupid, those weapons took away all the fun and skills in this game, because you can't hide or Doge those weapons which is stupid if you think that I tactic game you should be able to outplay your enemy, I've never been a fun of non brain cells weapons that's why I always sell them, they are not fair. I've been playing to come back to WR but every time I watched a full squad battle it grossed me up because long long ago clans fights were exacting and really skillful, nowadays you literally need two brain cells to play well. I'm happy if I'm coming back to wr I won't have to deal with those awful weapons, anyways I really love your content and keep it up. 😄
0 habilidad con esas armas al igual que con la armas teledirigidas, lo admito fue divertido destruir a los palomillas o avispados qué juegan mucho al día con la ayuda de meta, pero era NECESARIO
@@igoogle7375 Do you remember a thing called 3 second lock-on time? Y'know, that thing the old devs coded to balance to ALL auto-aiming weapons? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I wouldn't wish this severe of a nerf on my absolute worst moral enemy.
nah man, the anglers were too annoying with it, they were still crazy overpowered
Dude I was running a nether with mk2 cruel claw and mars with mk2 jaws, and now there fking worthless Fck you war robots and fck you pixonic, @tropical1675 I totally agree with you
@@ziemniak0killl251 The point stands: the nerf is too severe. If only 1 robot is "too annoying" with the weapons, nerf that robot.
I used to love this weapons, but now they're dead... But talon crisis work really well. I still like This weapons so much.
How is talon crisis a good build lmao
I knew this was going to happen, but what’s upsetting for me at least is that 19 TALON weapons were the majority of prizes from the fortune palace event. The audacity of the game to offer such a screwy drop rate for a weapon they were planning to destroy when I could have won so many better prizes (and yes some openings consisted of all three weapon variants, the three options were pretty much identical, so it wasn’t just bad luck). What am I supposed to do with all these now? I can’t be the only one right?
Your not the only one. They nerfed these weapons to the ground just like the Fafnir, Snaer, Skadi, and Hel. Its a complete scam. These weapons should have still had the high fire rate, but I wouldn't mind the rust nerf and maybe a damage nerf. These weapons are practically useless now, kinda sad.
EXACTLY. They ONLY give me these pieces of bosh. They do this every time. It’s stupid, this game is uninvestible.
I have 6 "cruel talons"... It's pure scam. No other words. They steal from us with no shame whatsoever... Pixonic are thieves... Nothing more.
That's Pixo for you, always giving out useless stuff in large numbers for free.
Right now those weapons are quite worth of good silver, just sell them
That's why they got nerfed so hard in the first place. Normal players had them and they'd be too useful against maxed titan pilots and reaper crisis.
Can't have peasants staying out of line of sight of our big bad robots and not letting them heal. They'd actually win that way. No, no, no. Its very important that you do very little damage, stay in front of the enemy robot where he can see you and do not stop him healing.
From my experience in WR, this is as bad as the time fafnir was heavily nerfed to the ground instead of being balanced, now the weapons' fire rate is so awkwardly bad
And the freezing laser
Yeah, I remember the day fafnir was killed by pixonic
The problem isn't the severity of the nerf itself but if the nerf was deserved or not and looking back at it Fafnir didn't deserve to be nerfed at all because the Hmgs Siren/Harpy builds were already in the live server and made Fafnir drop out of the meta even before it's nerf while the rust weapons dominated the meta for over half a year which is unhealthy for the game and Pixonic's wallet.
@@guinos6550 if you use the Fafnir now, it's very slow as compared to before, before it was like the fastest robot and now it might be the slowest
So it's a -110% damage speed nerf but they added salt to the wound by adding a "+15%" damage buff.
Yeah, though it requires skill to take advantage of that additional damage, firing in sequence seems do the trick, firing all at once leaves you quite vulnerable and your kill could easily escape from you.
They seem still viable maxed but anything less than MK2 is useless.
In my opinion these weapons did need a nerf of some kind but not like this, these weapons were made to be bursty rockets that dealt a lot of damage quickly and the added “rust” effect minimised how much healing the opponent can do making them better at taking down tanky bots, I think decreasing the rust effect and increasing reload time would be a good nerf but not rate of fire especially not by this much. Personally I’ve switched my 4x Claw on Nether to 4x Quarker and Claw and Talon on Angler to the Hammer and Cudgel
Sad how the nerf was so severe. You invested your resources and the next update, it becomes almost unusable. Excessive!
This proves how incompetent Pixonic is when trying to rebalance a weapon "lets give it more damage and ruin the firing interval, also lets nerf the rust effect by a quarter so people stop complaining about it"
The thing is this family of weapons were interesting when they were introduced but they always were so damn broken it stopped being fun, typical Pixonic looking for a quick cash grab before nerfing a new weapon to the ground
I won a Talon but I am sure glad I didn't waste any resources on upgrading it because it looks like a joke now. Does Pixonic even have anyone that tests the gameplay before they introduce a change to the game? Like the Reapers, there is no way a weapon with that kind of firepower and range and able to bypass defence should be allowed. It's like they are trying to take brawling out of the game
They don't care about tests, clearly. Otherwise, all auto-aiming weapons would have 3-second lock-on time, as the old devs had already tested that as an adequate balancing measure for all auto-aiming weapons.
It seems test server exists mostly for advertising and hyping new stuff, to get spenders and assorted bored individuals to forget about refining the game as it is and instead get excited for brand new thingies.
No, they are just trying to take your money.
Sniper and close range meta...at the same time how crazy is this
These nerfs are a reminder only level up new weapons for one robot only. It's senseless leveling up so many new weapons and they are nerfed within few weeks.
True that. Had to upgrade harpoon weapons for my angler and scorchers for my mars. -300mil
Even my weapon not yet mk3
I feel like harpoons may last.. unless they make another 150 meter weapon in the near future
They completely destroyed those weapons like they did to the freeze weapons. They go overboard when they make a new weapon and when they nerf. It's sad...
Yeah they got nerfed REAL hard. I checked Legend league players hangars and they all switched off their rust rockets with other weapons... Pixonic just also shadownerfed the Overheating lasers. They said the overheating takes 7 seconds but in game it is actually 5 seconds. If you have these weapons check it out yourself... This sucks man
Think they did the same thing with the lasers too, made them overheat quicker but also gave a small base dmg increase, still usable imo. Just makes them more of a burst damage sniper. Still nothing can beat reaper
@@crazyl3unny7 That is true bro, Reapers will most likely get the same treatment as rust rockets once enough of them got sold out... But yes lasers are still usable at least, they balanced them correctly
pixonix just r money thirsty tey know manh use this weapon so tey nerf it to push us to purchase new weapons fk pixonix
@@alexwarrobots710 they just took reapers out of all the chests so that normal players can't have them. That means it'll be a while til there's a reaper nerf. Reapers are for rich people to fight p2w titans with, rust rocket nerfs are to make sure normal players can't fight them easily.
If you could lower their healing and not have to get shot by alpha weapons to fight back then you'd actually have a fair chance against a max level titan pilot max level titan. And we can't allow that.
@@alexdavies5705 man titans with pilots are so overpowered that i doubt pre nerf rust weapons could have done anything, a Luchador or 2 mil hp Rook would take like 3 guys running rust rockets to do something, but it would work since they lower your healing, now it won't matter anymore cause of the nerf. Also i think there will be a second stage to this event where the Crisis and Reapers will come back with a special edition version, the one you see when you log in the game, so the Reaper nerf might come in like a couple months or so...
They put claw angler on offers. I bought it and like 2/3 weeks after i got it, they nerfed it. I love this game so much
Maybe make it
-less clip
-less rust eff percentage
-half the last atk spd
The problem was they stack high penalty on regen n deff too much n too fast.
Btw, camper meta is coming too. 😂
Yep, Yamantau made a return
(Claw , jaw. , talon) Before firing like rabbit after nerf firing like tortoise
Maybe I'm wrong but hwangje, yeoje and taeja overheating time decreased to ~4 sec after nerf although it should have been 7 seconds
3 seconds overheating
yeah the nerf was much worse than it said, even with the pilot (which you now need to use otherwise the gun is useless) it just makes it how it was before
When they have nerfed stuff in the past, it obviously wouldn’t be as good but you could still use it if you really wanted to. This nerf is so bad that the weapon are actually unusable. The fact that they are willing to do this kind of thing now really makes me worry about investing in new things. Yes Pixonic has done this kinda bull crap before but never this bad.
1st time in a while a nerf effected my hanger. I really enjoyed those weapons on my ravana. Reminds me of the storm nerf, their trash now
same here now tey r useless wrapons am neva goin to use it.. pixonix r drunk af to nerf this weapon when there r other wrapons which neens nerf
Reminds me of the Orkan nerf. I had upgraded 2 Jaw highly for the sake of reliving Orkan/Ember Lancelot days. As soon as I started getting more Jaws, I was wary and didn't upgrade them. Good thing I didn't, since now they were killed same as Orkan. Can't let us have good short-range rocket weapons.
After these nerfs, there is no way I am using rust rockets on my f2p account. My bots will literally die before I can unload the full clip!
Hey Aygir I have an idea for a way to bypass the fire rate nerf on PC. As you know, by pressing the number keys up to 4 you can select which weapons you don't want to fire when you press M2. I had the idea that you could alternate fire by making half the weapons shoot, then having the other weapons shoot about 0.4 seconds later. I don't know if that would work though.
Its the same. You Will fire almost at half the speed the 4 weapons. You are creating just an illusion
It does the same, if not even a little bit less damage than it would normally, since you are going to have a slight delay shooting the rockets if you fire it like that.
@@yoteganmejor I'll test it out once I get home, thanks
Pixonic: Todo las armas metas después de la creación viene la destrucción.
It doesn't even make sense because the developers spent so much time on the weapon
man quad talon crisis was one of my favourite builds but now it only produced a fraction of the dps it used to
To compensate the rate of fire, the damage increased but lower rust, so basically it's just same before nerf but to pair it up to do quicker kill that before nerf had the damage just increased so it's just lower speed high damage mainly, if they got nerf this hard pixonic should instead delete this to begin with, then they don't have an idea to make rook, although making the new weapon for bot and argon weapon like that just for marketing benefits since people buy for it then they nerf it later. I agree with aygir that no dmg buff need, just decent rof nerf and rust too.
this is just too painful, I invested on getting these claw weapons for my khepri just to have them be useless now. this is why i hate the new Devs/owners for WR. They want us to spend and when we do get them, they are just going to nerf them and all the irl money and resources used to upgrade them ruins the game. tbh they need to add a Weapon stats reset for cost of gold or whatever to refund all the resources spent on upgrading those weapons and robots, so we can use the resources on upgrading others stuff. Right now im using old weapons that are fair and works better for the league im in, screw all the new stuff, the grenade launcher weapons are going to get a nerf in 3 months time, so no need for them.
It's always like that, I don't know how long you've been in the game but what they do is nothing new, not investing in OP things like Not going up the league is the best, you enjoy the game by not being competitive in lower-middle leagues is what better
Even if their so-called "grenade launchers" don't get nerfed, it is unwise to spend on weapons until at least all previous weapons of the same tier are properly balanced among themselves. I think that condition has not been met since the Orkan nerf some centuries ago.
Sad day for all players now that everyone has them from last event
This is the worst nerf ever I have to change my mars and Typhon jaws now 😢
Its live???
yes
Yes it is, it got released today
@@alexwarrobots710 noooooo
If you fire in Sequenz then it's not that slow. But the damage output still gat cutten in half.
so whats the use of it lol
.. pixonix r stupid to nerf it.. there r other weapons which need nerf nt this one
Not worth it
i'm glad these weapons got nerfed. too many people hiding behind buildings for entire matches and using phase shift + angler ability to run away. i wish they were nerfed more.
Do you check enemy levels or do you have anger issues? Your gladness here isn't of much value if, like Pixonic, you can't grasp the concept of balance. I, for one, kept my rust rockets on older robots to try and make up for Pixonic's incompetence.
@@thenthtinkerer7635 you have no idea what you're talking about. using rust rockets on old robots? so you're clearly hiding and shooting from cover, must be so much fun for you and everyone else in the match. i've been playing this game for years in champions league and i created one of the strongest clans #1 on PC platform, i am very aware of current balancing and the meta problems. again, you have no idea what you're talking about, you are just salty because you wasted money on a cash grab universal setup that is now useless instead of building setups that stand the test of time and require any semblance of skill
Not even the Skadi family got it this bad 💀
That's why manni is planning on finding other games bc war robots is at its end. Probably
WR already went beyond its end
@@LuminousCattit died since 2018
@@VenomRaiden619 i think i started playing late 2017 or early 2018, it didnt seem dead back then, but i think you might say it was dead because of the Dash bots and robots like Spectre, Trebuchet Butch and Fury, And other similar ones
@VenomRaiden619 in my opinion it died after ravana came to the game
@@janiwr.m9068 The Orkan nerf was the polonium-infused brew that started the death process for this game.
Bro that was my best setup for nether now what do I do they just keep scamming me out of my money bro
Pixonic has no idea how to rebalance the game. They introduce new OP meta and then over-nerf it a few cycles later. This was way too much of a nerf. I concur with your assessment; they needed a slight "rust" effect and damage nerf, but the reload/unload time was well-balanced.
Why are you acting this is new? We all knew this was going to happen. This is why I don't spend money on new weapons or robots. I don't follow the meta either.
They clearly do it on purpose so that you need to change your hangar every 2 months and spend even more
You yourself are to blame, no one forces you to follow the OP, it is useless to be competitive in this game. They always end up nerfing what is predominant in the game, going up the league and following the OP is not worth it in this game
@@MaximilianoGT1 Who said he follows the OP? I, for example, used these rust rockets only to the extent they allowed me to make color-matching builds (avoiding the obvious bait like CrUeL cLaW + cRuEl AnGlEr, of course). Who asked Pixonic to start giving away more and more of them, to prepare a excuse for this nerf? As they kept pouring in, I simply didn't upgrade them. One can still recognize when a nerf is excessive.
Guys the thing is some weapons and robots don't get nerfed, the orochi was meta bit didn't get nerfed as well as the corrosion weapons, and the bendy bullets did have a slight nerf but they are still useful, so pixonic just nerfing these weapons so hard is just something they do sometimes, I mean do you guys remember the Fafnir meta, the freezing lasers have really been nerfed and the Fafnir is now slower than a fart in the wind. War robots meta is like a biased coin toss, sometimes the weapon doesn't get nerfed, other times it does, other times it gets nerfed so hard it suddenly becomes a new worse version of the weapon.
Thank you for the video
Aygır, do you think its still worth getting for the Nether? If not, what weapon I can use for Close Range?
Maybe the 300 metre corrosion weapons?
@@livingwarrobots4119 They are not ideal because Nether is too fast to accurately use those
@@d.aybar0814 the new spear weapons or sonic weapons
Nerfing the firerate of these weapons in any way was going to ruin them. They literally cant function with a low firerate because they were made to have high one. These weapons needed a damage nerf not a firerate nerf.
The fact that pixonic nerfed the firerate makes it clear they had one goal and one goal only, killing the weapons.
this was way too harsh i think this is even worse then the skadi nerf
AYGIR do you think they are worth upgrading to use them on angler ?
And do you think angler is still any good?
angler is ok, the weapons are useless sadly
which is more worth putting on my robot, a heavy claw or a heavy thunder?, remembering that my robot already takes 2 light claws and a pinata.
I don't use any of these weapons and i very happy that they was nerfed this way. Super annoying claw talon angler is a joke now😂
la verdad en este nerf solo me afecto una claw veo muchos quejándose del juego, no se si son nuevos o veteranos de cualquier modo el juego siempre ha sido asi no se por que se quejan, personalmente no soy competitivo y me mantengo en ligas medias bajas así disfruto de lo nerfeado si aun funciona en este caso las mataron completamente, ni aun en ligas bajas sirven
Because of that nerf I switched to the Cryo ilon Ravana a week prior. And I regret the fact that I don't have any range weapon. At least there is less brawling
PIX: We got it. We will nerf Cryo after you upgrade it to level 12. :)
Damn now need 1 minute to destroying 1 robot. Last night i was playing, notice what happen with my claw is very slow i tough something wrong with my tablet. Now i see the problem.
These weapons are litterally dead now😂rip to all the low league players who won these weapons
Great information and I agree! I love the new look of the charts. IMO they look much better! Colors are a bit much but that's just nitpicking (sorry.) Keep up the great work 👍👍
This happened to Ao Jun so nothing new.
There probably _is_ something new: the players themselves. Pixonic clearly banks on (hah) smart veteran players leaving and naive newbies replacing them.
Pixonic has lost their minds. You would be better off to light your money on fire than to buy something in WRs. This type of thing should be illegal.
They lost their minds with the Orkan nerf. This is a slightly different form of scumminess, given that they straight up gave rust rockets away to set up the excuse for nerfing them, but still.
What is the best setups for my angler when rust weapon is nerfed?
Sonic or needle. There's also the energy shotgun (lockdown ones).
The nerf is finally out?
This nerf was undeserved, the rust and all being decreased is understandable but the shot interval is too much, at least 5.6 or 6.3 would have been fine
9.3 + new pilot talon. Hahah
@@Sm-key wouldn't be surprised lol
Even though a lot of players used these weapons with their Nether robots which really annoyed me, the nerf is over the top. It renders these weapons quite weak
Imagine spending money to upgrade a weapon, only to nerf it later, making you blow money for nothing.. I need to.stop playing this game
These got nerfed for a simple reason. Average players had them and there wasn't enough of a gap between average players and p2w players while these were at their original strength. They couldn't remove them from your inventory so they made them weak.
They never drastically outperformed any reasonable weapon in the first place. They'd just be too useful against the max level p2w titan pilots and reaper crisis so they had to nerf them so hard they'd be all but useless.
Can't have all these peasants beating people who pay hundreds of dollars every event after all
WAIT ALREADY NERFED, AYRI UR KIDDING...
It made me recall Hell weapon.
Why they always gotta do these killjoy things, how about just nerf dmg.
Same with bots, never nerf the speed of things. This change the character of the weapon.
Nerfs and buffs should just be slight tweaks, not sledgehammering blows.
Well thats another weapon going on the scrap heap!
Only remove the rate of fire and that nerfed the totaly weapon 💀
love how it doesnt say popular anymore :(
I quit war robots
Its like the see my robot and eanch time broke all, actualy my last 20€ and 90/100 days was a complete waste of time and resource!
Homie bullet, Hammer blast charge, Decays, then Spear and Talon is the worsest one. I enjoyed them all but from now on just get new weapons for 1 bot that's it.
I don't know know what to say about these weapons i am in expert 2 and i got whooped by a mk3 jaw mars after nerf
I am happy with this nerf.
Finally I was waiting for this now I can sell all that junk
Finally, no skill weapon nerfed.
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War robots destroying yet another meta to replace it with a new one that everyone has to pay for...
I hope no one but the most bored-out-of-their-minds spenders pay for the new things after seeing this.
It was the Rook killer thats why.
QUESTION!!
GUYS, what weapon do you recommend to kill Rook fast, Old flamethrow? Incinerator? Glacier?
Please, thank you:
= )
Have you with Rook so big problems?
I have maxed incinerators on my seraph and they do nothing to a rook. Only thing that can dent that health bar is my Minos with 3evora and 3 cannibal reactors
@@rowankeltizar5961 and my Zmej Murometz at level 150 with Quantum sensor module + 2× Veyron and 1× Stellar Evora + 2× Onslaught and 1× Cannibal reactor + Titan pilot Yang Lee at level 100. And this all in combination with stealth in the air + EMP attack. And i have the possibility option to make this damage more through one Onslaught/or Cannibal reactor more instead of my Quantum sensor module. And through change some titan pilot skills and use more damage skills give my Murometz titan more damage power too.
Typical. They should never need to nerf or buff. Get it right in the 1st place. Too many impossible robots to kill as it is.
just sad, its time to sell the new granade launcher, the old dont make money
RIP claws!
Only waste time on weapons that have been nerfed to shit robots too. Hense why i love demeter, mender, typhon, fenrir revanna
What would happen if everyone started using the nearly useless Carnage to send a message? Would they panic and nerf it too? lol
I think they ruined the weapons since they shoot slow and I had to change the weapons to mender and mars
Honestly the weapon was a problem, but its just sad
This ain't a nerf for my Talon,Jaw Fenrir its more like a balance bcz they also increased dmg by 15%
Edit: I Tried it it's worse i spent my gold to speed up its upgrade and loads of silver😢
It may be, but in that time they destroyed you 2 times They are too slow compared to other weapons that do more damage and recharge quickly
Rip the best Rook counter
Personally I have been thinking of not playing anymore. Just tired of wasting resources for upgrading.
When you get ressources for free, then upgrading is no problem.
When you play with behemoth with talon you was on slow motion mode? 😂😂😂
terima kasih
They increased the firing rate by nearly half a second beyween shots and decrease the rust effect by 25%!! What an absolute joke!!
They make the maximum amount of money they can out of their players who buy and upgrade these weapons then make them completely useless. Conveniently right before they release a new set of weapons.
This game has become a blatant rip off these days and I really have had enough at this point. I'm investing not one more penny into this game. I'm just going to make use of what I already have.
i agree
Still waiting for Mars nerf
Now, that rust weapon will became just for PVE stuff
Ещё одно оружие отправляется на помойку. Это уже классика war robots.
Goofy Ahh Firing Rate 💀
Too much nerf 😢. 0.5 sec intervals would have been enough and reducing rust effect by 10% would have been enough.
Oh well...back to the flames I guess.
Be careful. Pixonic once tried to nerf the flames and then backpedaled _supposedly_ because of player feedback. They don't really care for balance. You gotta hope they don't start giving away flames like they did with these rust rockets, just to set up an excuse for nerfing them.
rust weapons are the counter weapons
against rook titan.
so pixonic make these worthless intentionally
to sell new blast weapons and squeeze money from us.😅
that’s what pixonic does.😂
The rust rockets was a danger for new titan Rook and got big nerf. New things have priority by Pixonic and get temporary advantages for better sell. Current i see often Rook titans in my battles now. Pixonic know good how to make money with this game.
This is trash. This rendered two of my bots useless. Well my Nether at least. Switched weapons back to shotguns on my Typhon. Still not as effective
If you have them, use magnetars on nether
@@midnightlanterns not leveled and my Nether dies fast. Rust weapons were accurate and allowed me to stay behind cover when I was taking too much damage.
@@MrJesiah3 yeah my nether is level 10 and 4 level 7 sheriff magnetars (1x nuke amp and manni pilot because I don’t have Everett), it does a lot of damage in expert 2 and expert 3 league
@@midnightlanterns sorry, I'm champion league. Bots are played different in champion league.
@@MrJesiah3 ah, my bad. But I think Adrian did a video where he used magnetar nether in champion league and it performed well, so it’s an alternative to the rust rockets. I’ve also seen people saying halo works on it, but I haven’t seen any videos of people playing it in champions league, so no clue on that one
Quedaron fatal, en verdad yo queria un nerf a estas armas ya que son muy molestas en ligas bajas y demasiado efectiva en los tanques, aunque como dice aygir podrian haberlas dejado un poco mejor, pero pixo las destruyo, curiosamente me recuerda al nerf brutal que le dieron a las hel, skadi y snaer en su momento, buen vide aygir
O al fafnir que despues de du nerf quedo inservible
En ligas bajas debes asegurarte de revisar los niveles de los enemigos si te parecen muy fuertes. Facilmente te ponen contra gente con todo a MK2 y si no revisas piensas que las armas sencillamente son demasiado fuertes. En fin, juegos mentales de Pixonic.
@@thenthtinkerer7635 no estoy en liga maestro y dificultan mucho a los tanques
i gotta grind for a glory halo angler now, these weapons suck
Don't have any of these weapons leveled up so don't really care. 😂 Rip to those who have them maxed.
this update wasn’t what i expected the claw etc became total trash now. my bots that uses claw etc can easily be destroyed by a bot that i can destroy in less then 2 minutes and now will take me the whole game to just get a kill😂 this is bad for the players who uses this weapons. seems like we will have to use another weapon until they fix this situation.
Mars + 3 jaw were my favourite setup. But now I don't feel like playing this game anymore. I spent my real money on this stupid game, but no more war robots now. F you pixonic
For those that say you cant hide from the weapon, it sounds like a skill issue, why dont you use some of your brain and just face hug a wall? Also hope you are ready for hurricane.
Rusty Claw 🙃
Anyways, thanks for the Comparison. Nice gameplay!
No one will buy new grenade launchers if these were strong...so nerfed them to oblivion now everyone has them. Pix profit management strategies will be doing this....remember in next two updates they will nerf the grenade launchers as well 😂😂😂😂
Or they won't, because mind games. Then the next weapons after that, they will nerf hard. The smart thing is to not spend money on any weapons or robots until previous weapons/robots are all properly balanced relative to each other, according to their prices as AYGIR's Stake vs. Thunder video showed, for example. Then, if Pixonic would stubbornly rather let the game die than balance things, good riddance. One less pebble in humanity's path to better things 🙄
Pixonic nerf💩
Don’t level any weapons that are not SE and gone through at least 2-3 nerf. Scammers.