A.N.T. when i ask them to please peel, they don't understand what I'm saying..spamming i need healing..does nothing...and then they go off and only do dps...
No need for punch for 200hp heroes and usually when you do that in scrims you want ur team to help u bc if u dont wait for the sound que (there's a small breathing que after ike 4.5 seconds after the sleep, it makes them be asleep longer when u shoot them so u can combo it without them waking up) it wont work and overall its too long and u wanna be there with ur team, + he had deflect and i played it very stupidly LMAO
Barscx, Firstly, i usually punch cos rifle dart damage is not instant, so, sometimes this punch may save you. Secondly, i understand that it's better to do with the team but they were far away. Thirdly, even if you ruin the combo in this situation after genji wakes up he has ~65 hp (sleep+shoot+nade) and anti and you have 200 hp. I think such matchup is winnable.
The matchup was winnable but a risk not worth taking. Keep in mind while you are playing in ur rank, which is any rank, it still doesnt equal to scrims which people take far more seriously and is filled with top 50 players against me. I'm not mL7 or Ryujehong and I choose to not trust my mechanical skills to save my life.
Love the part about pressuring their Ana to distract them from healing their team. I'm a plat Orisa main and I love when their Ana or zen stays far enough back from their shields so I can poke them across the battle. The second they stop healing rein and look for cover I can go back to harassing Rein. If they play so forward they're right behindt rein's shield, I try to halt them or rein up and continue poking them.
A tank one would be good. You meet too many tanks that have horrible positioning or don't know when to play aggressively or defensively. And I don't mean play aggressive on attack and play defensively on defense. No I mean knowing how to either wait for opportunities or making them.
So you probably nano at the wrong times, or the wrong targets. Don't blame your team, it's not their fault. You are the only player that is consistently on your team therefore you are the only one that can actually make yourself climb, blaming the team won't do shit. I did 4 Bronze ~ GMs as Mercy, Ana, Moira, Lucio (All heroes that are rather difficult to carry with, except for Moira) in around a week's time each. I suffered bad teammates too and still averaged around 85% winrate. Improve yourself bc ur team will never improve, but 80~90% of your games are carriable.
I swear to god, videos like this need to be the overwatch loading screens. Fuck skirmish, fuck going through your hero gallery and drooling over skins that you don't have yet....if guides like this appeared instead, the majority of the community would benefit.
10:43 Kinda true but It can also be a better idea to heal the Rein if your McCree isn't too overextanded and got 150 HP (this way you can help your Tank get back in his possition and if the Rein is in front of the McCree you are already in a better possition than whene your McCree is in the front lane.) But again It really depend of how overextand the McCree is (if he isn't too much you may as well heal the Rein but if he is Really expose it may be a better idea just to heal the McCree so he can get back in your team (onless he a dump McCree and keep diveing whitout his Tank to make him Space :P)) Any way just wanted to point that out because yah It true but there alot more thing that go into that choice (10 HP Rein in the back > 150 HP McCree that alwas overextand) SORRY FOR THE BAD ENGLISH
There's actually a lot to do about it? I did 4 Bronze~GMs as Support, Just know how to play this game and you can carry so many games, Especially as support. On my Mercy Bronze~GM i finished GM with 89% Winrate AFTER The nerfs, Same with Lucio and Moira, Ana was only 80 tho D:
Well if you are playing a character like mercy, no matter how much heals you give out, no matter how long your team stays alive, if they don’t kill the enemy it doesn’t matter. So yes actually it is the dps’s and tanks fault often because they aren’t doing their job.
16:39 Since whene it the support job to track the enemies Ulti? shouldn't every one track them? Afterall it kinda easy to tell whene a Nano just got use and whene it on cooldown is probably will be just after the glow stop every one can tell that IF it about how much charge the enemie got than Who Know I don't know how quickly they charge there ulti... Just saying I am wondering why you say it your job as a support (whene it pretty much the job of every one to track what ulti have been used.)
Supports have the best overview of the teamfights, as well as the defensive ult to prepare against enemy team wipe combos. It is often the support's role to call shots and to lead the team, as well as to manage the ultimate economy. Listen to some pro comms, you will hear the same thing there (:
Oh well probably tho I play on Casual PS4 so I think it pretty much every one role to know what got down (an ulti is hard to miss onless you are dead and even than you can probably see it if you fallow your teamate) But yah Again I only play Casual PS4 so :P (there not alot of shot calling any way since no one use mic) any way Thx for the reply
Imo as a support player, you should mainly track scary ults like shatter, grav, emp, etc. Pay attention to their body language. Like a Zarya being more aggressive than usual, A reaper on high ground, etc.
Support should pretty much never overextand even to get a kill on a low HP enemie trying to run away. (It just dump) let it go away he dosn't got self heal and will need to get back to his support meaning time lost in there offence any way yah sure the kill would have been better but don't go for the kill onless like it a 1 vs 1 (every one less is dead and the enemie is a DPS whit 3 HP and you got Mercy than kill the DPS and rez someone if posible to push the objective in a 2 vs 0 ...) But yah almost never a good idea to die the enemies.
Please don't make videos where you tell people to play widowmaker. I play on console. I play in platinum. When you have a youtuber tell people to play widowmaker. Then I get people on my team who actually pick her because "youtube told me to" when in reality. They suck with her.
Well of course. We have 20+ ppl supporting the channel and getting coaching sessions in return. The world does not end at solo competitive play,. if you have the time and dedication, hopping into a team to play scrims and tourneys can net you a lot of fun times where improvement is really in the focus.
"Your support buddy"
*laughs in first 4 people instalocked DPS and our tank is Roadhog* *cries*
(:
They should change healers *I need healing, to *I need peeling
That could actually be a thing. A better chat wheel like in Tribes
Even tho i passivly knew most of these things, this helped me realise it and use the info! Thanks!!
This guide was awesome! Thanks for all of the thought and effort the dojo puts into your content!
Thanks ;^)
Lmao what other support
:'(
FeelsLifeMan
I would just like to add that it took me since you wrote it to understand the joke I am a very smart individual
A.N.T. when i ask them to please peel, they don't understand what I'm saying..spamming i need healing..does nothing...and then they go off and only do dps...
Virtual Raygun tfw you outheal a Moira with Ana. And the Moira is Masters and you're plat. It wasn't a good game at all.
I want this guy to read me a story
I play support a lot now and this tutorial was extremely helpful
Thanks :)
Ah, the hard life of a support main! We are glad that you found this guide helpful. (:
Number one thing to remember aren't your hero skills. It's being the better shot caller. In a team based game the batter team play wins more games.
Not in Soloq, most people wont listen
Better off just being quiet and carrying tbh
Barscx Soloq? What's that? We only LFG now bro ;)
3:03 Why not shoot-nade-shoot-punch combo for 200 hp heroes?
No need for punch for 200hp heroes and usually when you do that in scrims you want ur team to help u bc if u dont wait for the sound que (there's a small breathing que after ike 4.5 seconds after the sleep, it makes them be asleep longer when u shoot them so u can combo it without them waking up) it wont work and overall its too long and u wanna be there with ur team, + he had deflect and i played it very stupidly LMAO
Barscx, Firstly, i usually punch cos rifle dart damage is not instant, so, sometimes this punch may save you. Secondly, i understand that it's better to do with the team but they were far away. Thirdly, even if you ruin the combo in this situation after genji wakes up he has ~65 hp (sleep+shoot+nade) and anti and you have 200 hp. I think such matchup is winnable.
The matchup was winnable but a risk not worth taking. Keep in mind while you are playing in ur rank, which is any rank, it still doesnt equal to scrims which people take far more seriously and is filled with top 50 players against me. I'm not mL7 or Ryujehong and I choose to not trust my mechanical skills to save my life.
Barscx, ~got it
WHERE MY OTHER SUPPORT MAINS AT
btw, good vid, this will help me A LOT
Love the part about pressuring their Ana to distract them from healing their team. I'm a plat Orisa main and I love when their Ana or zen stays far enough back from their shields so I can poke them across the battle. The second they stop healing rein and look for cover I can go back to harassing Rein. If they play so forward they're right behindt rein's shield, I try to halt them or rein up and continue poking them.
Will you be doing a similar video for tanks and dps?
We are looking for opportunities to do collabs like this, yes. Cannot promise a release date right now.
A tank one would be good. You meet too many tanks that have horrible positioning or don't know when to play aggressively or defensively. And I don't mean play aggressive on attack and play defensively on defense. No I mean knowing how to either wait for opportunities or making them.
Lol, If I Nano my Gengi, I'd be lucky for him to get 1 kill. Meanwhile the enemy Gengi wipes is without a nano. smh
So you probably nano at the wrong times, or the wrong targets. Don't blame your team, it's not their fault. You are the only player that is consistently on your team therefore you are the only one that can actually make yourself climb, blaming the team won't do shit. I did 4 Bronze ~ GMs as Mercy, Ana, Moira, Lucio (All heroes that are rather difficult to carry with, except for Moira) in around a week's time each. I suffered bad teammates too and still averaged around 85% winrate. Improve yourself bc ur team will never improve, but 80~90% of your games are carriable.
The music is slightly distracting, but the content of the video is great!
Thanks for the feedback. Was it too loud?
Overwatchdojo I think the volume was fine, but I would prefer something more calm I guess.
5 ppl dive Zen? Rip time to give up on life...
Thanks very helpfull
Thank you! :)
I swear to god, videos like this need to be the overwatch loading screens. Fuck skirmish, fuck going through your hero gallery and drooling over skins that you don't have yet....if guides like this appeared instead, the majority of the community would benefit.
i just made a few pages of notes
EZ Clap
OverWatchJojo same
Tank thought process next?
Soon (tm)
Overwatchdojo Yipee!
why do you need a guide for everything, don't you have common sense to discover yourself ?
Lucio thought level: wallride to be FASTASFUCKBOIANDKILLEVERYONE
I would like to a guide like this for tanks!!
And awesome Video!!! i like it
Excellent guide.
thank you~
Thank you!
Loved the guide! Keep up the great work c:
tyyy c:
Barscx do you stream?
Great vid, I really enjoyed it!
8:45 10/10 Ana positioning
easy death for her.
10:43 Kinda true but It can also be a better idea to heal the Rein if your McCree isn't too overextanded and got 150 HP (this way you can help your Tank get back in his possition and if the Rein is in front of the McCree you are already in a better possition than whene your McCree is in the front lane.)
But again It really depend of how overextand the McCree is (if he isn't too much you may as well heal the Rein but if he is Really expose it may be a better idea just to heal the McCree so he can get back in your team (onless he a dump McCree and keep diveing whitout his Tank to make him Space :P))
Any way just wanted to point that out because yah It true but there alot more thing that go into that choice (10 HP Rein in the back > 150 HP McCree that alwas overextand)
SORRY FOR THE BAD ENGLISH
"Ask your team to pick..." *leaves voice channel*
The how its made guy is a overwatch tuber?
uh
what
He is not the same as the narrator there, but the voice is sexy af, right? We are a team of 5 working on creating these videos for you.
Your voice reminds me of that silly angler fish video.
Thanks for the video!
Link? (:
Overwatchdojo ruclips.net/video/Z-BbpaNXbxg/видео.html
Amazing video
Great vid!
Up next on how it's made
I peaked 4300 playing supports... didn't really think about these things much.
Well, how did you do it then? If nothing of these questions came up, then you must be a natural talent :)
Overwatchdojo I think I do these things but I just don't think about it.
most ppl pick support think they should be auto-win and if they lose it is because tank and dps sucks, they have nothing to do about it
lmfpkpk wait that’s not true?
There's actually a lot to do about it? I did 4 Bronze~GMs as Support, Just know how to play this game and you can carry so many games, Especially as support.
On my Mercy Bronze~GM i finished GM with 89% Winrate AFTER The nerfs, Same with Lucio and Moira, Ana was only 80 tho D:
And the dps and tanks blame support.
most ppl pick dps when their team already has 4 and throw and when they lose it's the 1 healer's fault.
Well if you are playing a character like mercy, no matter how much heals you give out, no matter how long your team stays alive, if they don’t kill the enemy it doesn’t matter. So yes actually it is the dps’s and tanks fault often because they aren’t doing their job.
Splendid!
(:
Giving advice on how to play support but at 5:53 let's entire team die while using 2 support ults lmao
That wasnt my gameplay D: BibleThump
You need to learn from the mistakes, nicely spotted the lack of comms there! (:
Valk shouldn’t have even been used there. Boosted dragon out damages trans.
will this be on the final?
On the final what?
Overwatchdojo I was making a school joke.
why no Brigitte?
Why no Brigitte where? Most of these apply to her as well.
JT Wei cause she’s a dps that provides heals, like soldier
soldier is a secondary healer. change my mind.
pls no
3:50 russian interface. Some random gameplay, or the person from the video is somehow related to russian language?
Great
Do one for tanks!!!
Pls help can we get a tank one after
this doesn't even feel relevant with brig, hammond, and hanzo's storm arrows out now
Do another but for tank
In the making.
wow that super amazing guild... ---Kenpachi Sensei SNK
Thank you!
Glad that you liked it! What was your fav part/question?
Thid guy does not sound human. Sounds like the guy who explains the lazer tag rules video
I clicked on this expecting a joke video for some reason.
Hmm, no. Hope you were disappointed :P
PogChamp
Oof rip to mercy
16:39 Since whene it the support job to track the enemies Ulti? shouldn't every one track them? Afterall it kinda easy to tell whene a Nano just got use and whene it on cooldown is probably will be just after the glow stop every one can tell that IF it about how much charge the enemie got than Who Know I don't know how quickly they charge there ulti...
Just saying I am wondering why you say it your job as a support (whene it pretty much the job of every one to track what ulti have been used.)
Supports have the best overview of the teamfights, as well as the defensive ult to prepare against enemy team wipe combos. It is often the support's role to call shots and to lead the team, as well as to manage the ultimate economy. Listen to some pro comms, you will hear the same thing there (:
Oh well probably tho I play on Casual PS4 so I think it pretty much every one role to know what got down (an ulti is hard to miss onless you are dead and even than you can probably see it if you fallow your teamate)
But yah Again I only play Casual PS4 so :P (there not alot of shot calling any way since no one use mic)
any way Thx for the reply
Imo as a support player, you should mainly track scary ults like shatter, grav, emp, etc. Pay attention to their body language. Like a Zarya being more aggressive than usual, A reaper on high ground, etc.
...... wow your voice is very deep... 😰
Support should pretty much never overextand even to get a kill on a low HP enemie trying to run away. (It just dump) let it go away he dosn't got self heal and will need to get back to his support meaning time lost in there offence any way yah sure the kill would have been better but don't go for the kill onless like it a 1 vs 1 (every one less is dead and the enemie is a DPS whit 3 HP and you got Mercy than kill the DPS and rez someone if posible to push the objective in a 2 vs 0 ...) But yah almost never a good idea to die the enemies.
After bulshit pink glasses video like this i gona go and throw some 30 games to rebilitate myself
Please don't make videos where you tell people to play widowmaker.
I play on console. I play in platinum. When you have a youtuber tell people to play widowmaker. Then I get people on my team who actually pick her because "youtube told me to" when in reality. They suck with her.
It is flattering to think so, but we don't believe that we have much saying in who plays what in game, too small for that :)
Is anyone seriously playing Overwatch to improve anymore?
Well of course. We have 20+ ppl supporting the channel and getting coaching sessions in return. The world does not end at solo competitive play,. if you have the time and dedication, hopping into a team to play scrims and tourneys can net you a lot of fun times where improvement is really in the focus.
Did u ever play it to improve in the first place stucking in some elo under 4k?
SomaXD what’s wrong with platinum?
Yes.
plat dia master all trash