Time Stamps : 00:00 Intro 00:19 introduction 00:50 Understanding Puppeteer's Skill & Damage Calculation 01:48 Damage calculation from 1 hit type hunter like wu, geisha, bq, orpheus etc. (Normal value hunter damage) + FORMULA 02:38 DETENTION Hit Formula 02:58 Undaunted Skill (immune for a while, similar like Fylwheel) 03:42 TERROR SHOCK Formula 04:07 Hermit's Damage Formula 05:24 Joseph's Damage Formula 06:30 Chip Damage Hunter's Formula 08:08 Undaunted can counter Naiad 100% water 09:18 Mad Eyes 10:02 Bane 10:18 Healing Debuff & WHO CAN HEAL HIM? 11:09 Persona Options & Doctor persona is recommended for him 15:36 rescue 16:14 KITING TIME
I alrd tried to simplified the explanation, and hoping the formula for the damage (mathematic) can help you to understand faster about the damage that he will received
1:45 a survivor with a skill that has no cooldown and can take 4 hits 🗿 let's just say he spams his skill every 8 seconds, that's already giving him a 1/2 minute kite 2:03 The mathematical explanation is very easy to understand, nice 🗿👍
I'm guessing the reason there's no CD is that they balance the uses by not allowing Puppeteer to get healed by others. Puppeteer will likely need to use 50% HP for a rescue (either because it's a double-hit hunter or because after the rescue the hunter will go for the double-down and smack Puppeteer again. He has no elbow pads/pocket watch to get away after the rescue and prevent that so it's better to become a puppet and sacrifice 0.25 terror while getting away from the chair instead of taking a hit for 0.5 terror) so he can only use one more puppet after that. I doubt in a normal match with randoms you'll bother spending all the time necessary for Puppeteer to heal someone else and leave them chipped in exchange for 1 puppet use
at first i thought he would be kinda underwhelming, but thanks to your explanations and exploratons with the character, i can see a big potential in him, besides, turning into a puppet just sounds fun lol!, thanks geisha!!
Finally a survivor that would help solo rank players,you can kite for so long and mostly depend on your skills so I'll definitely buy him when released!
@@FatalHopes I didn't say he would have all the same stats and stuff he has now, i just wanted to play Louis more because i like his animations (not some seconds more, i mean minutes because i wanna do all the stuff with him)
1:27 Nice showcase. I dont think they will give him a cooldown because the main consequence of using his ability makes up for the lack of cooldown, taking one chip hit and being unable to be healed
An easy way to think of the damage formulas is just: the damage from the hunter - 1 normal hit + a chip hit, and hunters damage is doubled if terror shock or detention. (E.g. 0.5 - 0.5 + 0.25 = 0.25) I’m sure everyone understood, just here to help those who don’t understand math as easily!
First of all I'm so sorry I can't join the stream because of work, but you are so FAST & DETAILS like always! thank you very much for this complete guide, it seems we need to do some math homework when playing as him😅 but your information is very detail, especially the math formula 😁😁 and gonna help many people that wanna play as him!!
It is okayyyy, like I always said, our work, school or college, real life etc. are way more important than just a game. And hey you're here anyway 🥰🥰🥰🙏 thanks a lot for being early and appreciate the supports❤❤❤ good luck
Thank you for the fast guide❤ I feel like this must have been a lot of work 🎉 edit: spelling 😅 I really feel like he is perfect for rescue. From a hunter’s perspective I wouldn’t want to chase him 1st. If the person playing him performs a decent kite you can easily use 3 puppets to last 3 ciphers or more. Most basic hit/hunters without an ability to “pause” him will struggle to down him fast. For instance, good counters against him would be hermit, Ann, or wax. Because they can stun him as Matthias and get a hit outside of puppet allowing his use of his abilities to shorten. (Especially in hermit’s case right? He would only be able to use one puppet then if the damage is not shared) I kind of feel he was made to counter opera in a sense. He can “cancel” double hits(or tank), a thing which Opera with her superior camping abilities is especially good for since she can jump her shadows with no cool down after a hit. Or lizard. His buff allowing him to jump so much more causing him to be able to down survs much easier will be harder against Louis. I think if I played him (as he currently is) I would want to run 39 with doc persona. This helps cut his debuff, and gives him broken with tide. I’m not sure he would need borrowed if played right. I also think team comps should pair him with barmaid or psych but barmaid is more versatile movement wise. So a good team comp for him would be: Puppet, Barmaid, decoder (could also be LG but composer would be good), a harasser like anti or maybe another like prospector, batter, or enchan (does healing enchan still activate her voodoo abilities? Since she can’t heal you as puppet?) or you could fill it with a good support/kiter cheer or dancer for instance. You could run a psych/barmaid duo if you plan to lean into healing him up easier and hoping he is main kiter. So in that case for him 39 persona instead then? Or 12-9/12-3 if you really want to lean on a bet a hunter would go for him first. But honestly having him be a tide holder would probably be best use and like I said as a hunter if we are picking spawn locations I would purposely not chase him first. Unless I’m playing a hunter I feel I could stun him early as Matt with first.
Yup yup you're very welcome 🥰🥰🙏 and thanks for sharing your thoughts and analysis too. Correct, one hit type hunter will gonna take longer to take him down, because need to hit him in total 4 times if he can use 3 perfect puppet skill since beginning, so either wait until 8 sec gone (on each puppet skill or just hit) for waiting the skill like waiting perfume it means 8 sec x 3 = 24 sec, which is kinda long enough right, so either waiting or keep hitting it still will waste hunter time🥲 so yeah no need to force chase him since beginning is also good option especially for one hit type hunter but let's see on real match one he enter global server too ☺ Additional, for Hermit case wih puppet skill 04:25 he can take up to 3x hit without sharing damage with other surv ☺☺
Hunter mains are funny cuz yall are always crying on every new survivor 🤡 naiad is also op , so is the breakwheel and others and you got to use blink and teleport like stop that’s embarrassing
Omg, is this the survivor version of hermit? What I mean is, we gotta do mental math for him? Lol I’m just kidding 🤣 anyways, a great guide! I am excited to run around as a creepy puppet in my matches and this video helps a LOOOOT!!! Thank you!!
Muahahahahahahha ikr 🤣🤣🤣 when me & Bleber saw him, we were like okay another math formula to be shared to everyone after this 😂😂😂 and it's gonna be more complex with Joseph and Hermit plus him on a match 🤣🤣 truly excited. You're welcome and thanks for being early❤❤❤
Thank you for the calculations, Geisha and Bleber! Now I’m wondering if Doctor can prime her own self-healing and Matthias can “pop” her heal as a faster way to get him to heal someone.
Funny thing is, the best healer in the game can't heal his chip dmg 😭 just imagine all the dmg he can take if Doctors can heal him everytime he gets hit
He cannot be healed normally, huh. I wonder if he can heal himself with syringe in Duo Hunters... Or this can become a reason why he won't be added there.
Normal TS is 100% damage to survivor, unless we're playing as Lawyer then it's 50%, Lawyer can't received terror shock anymore. And for difference calculation for Puppeteer is available on time stamps yaa (pinned comment)
When facing jo, he's kinda similar like when Ada facing jo. Takes 2 hit then down. And 1 ts = down. The difference is only he has 1x undaunted skill everytime he turn into puppet (immune like flywheel for a while)
Why not, I released Antiquarian guide and Journalist guide on the SAME day when they are available on the test server. When I did that, it means I have more time on that 1st day to make content, doing editing and releasing on the same day as well👌
Hi Geisha I’m so happy today, first I just got my scammed 2018 account back after trying to get it for a whole year it worked today after 8 tries, so now I have my 2020 acc and the old 2018 acc finally able to play my old skins !! Next I finish high school at morning next week which means I can play idv all day lol 😃 and now a new video of you ! This is my greatest day of the last 10 days 🩵🩵🩵
Hunters are now more scared then ever before because I'm telling you ones of the teammate is down and the hunter thinks it's a tie and this puppet trys to rescue and manage to win oh I can feel what Hunters feels😅😅
Time Stamps :
00:00 Intro
00:19 introduction
00:50 Understanding Puppeteer's Skill & Damage Calculation
01:48 Damage calculation from 1 hit type hunter like wu, geisha, bq, orpheus etc. (Normal value hunter damage) + FORMULA
02:38 DETENTION Hit Formula
02:58 Undaunted Skill (immune for a while, similar like Fylwheel)
03:42 TERROR SHOCK Formula
04:07 Hermit's Damage Formula
05:24 Joseph's Damage Formula
06:30 Chip Damage Hunter's Formula
08:08 Undaunted can counter Naiad 100% water
09:18 Mad Eyes
10:02 Bane
10:18 Healing Debuff & WHO CAN HEAL HIM?
11:09 Persona Options & Doctor persona is recommended for him
15:36 rescue
16:14 KITING TIME
Anyway I FORGOT to put my clip when Louis (puppet mode) can not use flywheel persona, only Matthias can (human form)
I alrd tried to simplified the explanation, and hoping the formula for the damage (mathematic) can help you to understand faster about the damage that he will received
Thank you for the time stamps!! This is sooo detail!
@@inyourdreams77 you're welcome and thanks for being early❤❤❤
1:45 a survivor with a skill that has no cooldown and can take 4 hits 🗿 let's just say he spams his skill every 8 seconds, that's already giving him a 1/2 minute kite
2:03 The mathematical explanation is very easy to understand, nice 🗿👍
Muehehehe thank you 👀 thanks to you too, we did a nice discussion for the calculation just like doing math quiz 😂😂
They prob will like put a cooldown because he’s too op
Geisha user and wuchang user crying lol
@@ToodlesManagerhe is not op in the slightest. He’ll probably be an A tier surv at max.
It's not like he doesn't also have huge flaws as well like... whatever
I'm guessing the reason there's no CD is that they balance the uses by not allowing Puppeteer to get healed by others. Puppeteer will likely need to use 50% HP for a rescue (either because it's a double-hit hunter or because after the rescue the hunter will go for the double-down and smack Puppeteer again. He has no elbow pads/pocket watch to get away after the rescue and prevent that so it's better to become a puppet and sacrifice 0.25 terror while getting away from the chair instead of taking a hit for 0.5 terror) so he can only use one more puppet after that. I doubt in a normal match with randoms you'll bother spending all the time necessary for Puppeteer to heal someone else and leave them chipped in exchange for 1 puppet use
Yeah I hope they will keep him like this 1st version, gonna be very versatile and useful either to kite, assist or rescue as him 👍
at first i thought he would be kinda underwhelming, but thanks to your explanations and exploratons with the character, i can see a big potential in him, besides, turning into a puppet just sounds fun lol!, thanks geisha!!
No problem!! Yess! Gonna be very useful and fun, either to kite, assist and rescue as him!!❤❤❤ thanks for being early
Finally a survivor that would help solo rank players,you can kite for so long and mostly depend on your skills so I'll definitely buy him when released!
Honestly really depends, he's counters by chip hunters and Joseph
yes it’s been so affective honestly and it’s helped a lottt with my solo ranking
I wish we could play as louis for longer :(
Me too
I thinks that’d be a little bit too much
@@FatalHopes I didn't say he would have all the same stats and stuff he has now, i just wanted to play Louis more because i like his animations (not some seconds more, i mean minutes because i wanna do all the stuff with him)
What do you have against hunters mate😭😭
@@G00gleChrome-b3l nothing, i just want to play Louis more because he has cute animations, that's it
It is going to be so nice escaping the basement with him after being chaired
Yeahhh❤❤
1:27 Nice showcase. I dont think they will give him a cooldown because the main consequence of using his ability makes up for the lack of cooldown, taking one chip hit and being unable to be healed
An easy way to think of the damage formulas is just: the damage from the hunter - 1 normal hit + a chip hit, and hunters damage is doubled if terror shock or detention. (E.g. 0.5 - 0.5 + 0.25 = 0.25) I’m sure everyone understood, just here to help those who don’t understand math as easily!
All I know is that I'm not chasing him first lmao, I'll get rid of his teammates first.
tysm this is the first video I've seen that actually helps me understand how he works! :D
You're very welcome❤
First of all I'm so sorry I can't join the stream because of work, but you are so FAST & DETAILS like always! thank you very much for this complete guide, it seems we need to do some math homework when playing as him😅 but your information is very detail, especially the math formula 😁😁 and gonna help many people that wanna play as him!!
It is okayyyy, like I always said, our work, school or college, real life etc. are way more important than just a game. And hey you're here anyway 🥰🥰🥰🙏 thanks a lot for being early and appreciate the supports❤❤❤ good luck
Thank you for the fast guide❤ I feel like this must have been a lot of work 🎉 edit: spelling 😅
I really feel like he is perfect for rescue. From a hunter’s perspective I wouldn’t want to chase him 1st. If the person playing him performs a decent kite you can easily use 3 puppets to last 3 ciphers or more. Most basic hit/hunters without an ability to “pause” him will struggle to down him fast.
For instance, good counters against him would be hermit, Ann, or wax. Because they can stun him as Matthias and get a hit outside of puppet allowing his use of his abilities to shorten. (Especially in hermit’s case right? He would only be able to use one puppet then if the damage is not shared)
I kind of feel he was made to counter opera in a sense. He can “cancel” double hits(or tank), a thing which Opera with her superior camping abilities is especially good for since she can jump her shadows with no cool down after a hit. Or lizard. His buff allowing him to jump so much more causing him to be able to down survs much easier will be harder against Louis.
I think if I played him (as he currently is) I would want to run 39 with doc persona. This helps cut his debuff, and gives him broken with tide. I’m not sure he would need borrowed if played right. I also think team comps should pair him with barmaid or psych but barmaid is more versatile movement wise. So a good team comp for him would be:
Puppet, Barmaid, decoder (could also be LG but composer would be good), a harasser like anti or maybe another like prospector, batter, or enchan (does healing enchan still activate her voodoo abilities? Since she can’t heal you as puppet?) or you could fill it with a good support/kiter cheer or dancer for instance. You could run a psych/barmaid duo if you plan to lean into healing him up easier and hoping he is main kiter. So in that case for him 39 persona instead then? Or 12-9/12-3 if you really want to lean on a bet a hunter would go for him first.
But honestly having him be a tide holder would probably be best use and like I said as a hunter if we are picking spawn locations I would purposely not chase him first. Unless I’m playing a hunter I feel I could stun him early as Matt with first.
Yup yup you're very welcome 🥰🥰🙏 and thanks for sharing your thoughts and analysis too.
Correct, one hit type hunter will gonna take longer to take him down, because need to hit him in total 4 times if he can use 3 perfect puppet skill since beginning, so either wait until 8 sec gone (on each puppet skill or just hit) for waiting the skill like waiting perfume it means 8 sec x 3 = 24 sec, which is kinda long enough right, so either waiting or keep hitting it still will waste hunter time🥲 so yeah no need to force chase him since beginning is also good option especially for one hit type hunter but let's see on real match one he enter global server too ☺
Additional, for Hermit case wih puppet skill 04:25 he can take up to 3x hit without sharing damage with other surv ☺☺
New tank rescuer similar to Naib but without gauntlet
I’m glad I see Louis get hit by the tram- *not me being a puppeteer main*
Tysm! I was having a hard time trying to understand his mechanics and this helped me a lot!! 😭💖💖
I will always love when characters giggle like the little goblins they are and this is no exception
Dang! He seems like he’d be a good kiter!
Yeahh I am excited to try him!!
we need a scene of him healing a teammate with and without a doctor persona at the same time comparison pls :)
ruclips.net/video/tR88rnZilyU/видео.htmlsi=og7WqxsOcQS9yr7t as requested, this is it :)
He’s going to be super OP as a miter especially in the beginning of the match .
Hunter mains are funny cuz yall are always crying on every new survivor 🤡 naiad is also op , so is the breakwheel and others and you got to use blink and teleport like stop that’s embarrassing
Omg, is this the survivor version of hermit? What I mean is, we gotta do mental math for him? Lol I’m just kidding 🤣 anyways, a great guide! I am excited to run around as a creepy puppet in my matches and this video helps a LOOOOT!!! Thank you!!
Muahahahahahahha ikr 🤣🤣🤣 when me & Bleber saw him, we were like okay another math formula to be shared to everyone after this 😂😂😂 and it's gonna be more complex with Joseph and Hermit plus him on a match 🤣🤣 truly excited. You're welcome and thanks for being early❤❤❤
Thank you for the calculations, Geisha and Bleber! Now I’m wondering if Doctor can prime her own self-healing and Matthias can “pop” her heal as a faster way to get him to heal someone.
Watching this in midnight w the scary music of the video is not easing my creeps💀💀 thank you for the video though! It really helped.
Imma forget all of this watch
Me laughing as Joseph main
Everything is 2 hits 😂
you will be crying when he heals everyone’s chip damage
@@김태연-b5u Nah, Doctor already gave them that experience. Puppeteer is weaker against chip damage hunters because he has to take full chip hits.
Or not, with this ass heal@@김태연-b5u
@@김태연-b5u if people use him to heal chip hits they will be killing the cipher rush anyways with that horrid healing time, I don't see your point
His skill is very similar to gardener but you don’t have to stand still for 3s and you also have free fly wheel
A lot of people has taken a liking to Puppeteer (me included) I cant wait until he gets released!!
Funny thing is, the best healer in the game can't heal his chip dmg 😭 just imagine all the dmg he can take if Doctors can heal him everytime he gets hit
hes my new husband for now
idc if hes bad he looks so fun
He cannot be healed normally, huh. I wonder if he can heal himself with syringe in Duo Hunters... Or this can become a reason why he won't be added there.
Yup I am curious to know too
i love he 🙏🙏🙏🙏😭
If Hermit joseph breaking wheel hits then why is they have attack recovery I think he is useless because no one can fully heal him
You don’t really need to be fully healed to win
i think it’s more ideal not to carry tide on him since it hinders his skill. is that not so?
Like seer & profesor 😢, self defense again
i thought ts can only do 50% health no matter what method
Normal TS is 100% damage to survivor, unless we're playing as Lawyer then it's 50%, Lawyer can't received terror shock anymore. And for difference calculation for Puppeteer is available on time stamps yaa (pinned comment)
what if you use tide can you keep using the doll?
nope
So Joseph can kill him easily?
When facing jo, he's kinda similar like when Ada facing jo. Takes 2 hit then down. And 1 ts = down. The difference is only he has 1x undaunted skill everytime he turn into puppet (immune like flywheel for a while)
I think use the puppet like perfume
I’m not positive about my question but if little girl paired up whit puppeteer wouldn’t that be a good duo?
Yes... new merc
Does hitting him in a puppet state unlock the hunter skill?
Yes hitting him can unlock hunter presence
So Ada is the perfect teammate for him? Since demi can only have 2 dovlins so Ada is better na?
Yup we can say that way, both actually are good but Ada is perfect pairing for him
Wait in live stream you said you can't use emote while in Louis form or because you are moving?
He look kinda goofy while using emote too😂
I tried it again on live stream that turn out he can use it but you wait like around 1/2 sec
how r u playing as him already?
This is on test server for creator private invitation
in short, he can’t be healed even by doctor because he needs therapy fr 😭
Well, in fact he can receive ada whistle 😂
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İ mean... You werent as excited as when the fools gold came. Whys the guides coming so early
Why not, I released Antiquarian guide and Journalist guide on the SAME day when they are available on the test server. When I did that, it means I have more time on that 1st day to make content, doing editing and releasing on the same day as well👌
Hi Geisha I’m so happy today, first I just got my scammed 2018 account back after trying to get it for a whole year it worked today after 8 tries, so now I have my 2020 acc and the old 2018 acc finally able to play my old skins !! Next I finish high school at morning next week which means I can play idv all day lol 😃 and now a new video of you ! This is my greatest day of the last 10 days 🩵🩵🩵
Hunters are now more scared then ever before because I'm telling you ones of the teammate is down and the hunter thinks it's a tie and this puppet trys to rescue and manage to win oh I can feel what Hunters feels😅😅