The big numbers indicate human thought does not operate by randomness alone. Dawkins in the Blind Watchmaker is happy to acknowledge that the complexity of a literary work like Hamlet CAN be generated fairly quickly by an algorithm, but pure chance, no way. Universe isn't near old enough. That's why evolution and life have to have rules like natural selection to happen. Can't be just pure randomness. The odds are too bad.
I am Austin Fuku and viewing from South Africa, and the concept of atheism has opened my eyes from the fallacies of religion and cultural rituals. Thank you for the eye-opening channel!🤗😁🤣🤣
I was in SA in 1985. Was up in the Northern Transvaal (different now), and then went to Botswana, Zimbabwe, and Zambia. Was in Namibia about 20 times illegally. Was in a boat, stuck in a swamp on the border to Botswana. Where do you live?
@@xpresstutoring Was only in JBurg landing, and taking off! I strongly urge you to travel. Get to Europe, and/or North America. Find a partner, get married, and immigrate. Your life will change for the better X’s 100, I promise you!
I am also in Scandinavia (if Finland counts in). I just listened this video. I have no beer but I came just home and I'm going to sit down in my hanging chair on my balcony and drink a little wine. It's very warm outside.
Right. Just imagine the moment of conception. Millions of sperms were fighting for that one egg and only one speciific made it. Just a tiny tiny differrence and a micro second delay and you would be a completely different person. Yet you're still here. Now imagine us that are reading and commenting on your comment. The same applies to us. So the probability that the events played out as they have is virtually zero, yet it happened.
@@kimhoffmannandersen5477 Yes, I know Finland is not part of Scandinavia. But sometimes, commenting videos where most commenters are from US, I just don't want to be quite so peculiar and different. Although I sometimes brag about our language which does not have separate pronouns for you-know-what. And, after following the sad case of sweet Madeline Soto, I realized we don't even have "teen age". Even our numbers are odd. Anyway... second glass of wine, still warm on the balcony, everything seems peaceful and nice on the streets below. My brave Finnish Lapphund already sleeping sound on the couch. Everything all right.
Ask Joseph to throw a billion dice and record their outcomes, then calculate the probability of that exact outcome, and ask him if he believes that he could actually have thrown that outcome.
The probability of a god existing, is the same as our current universe existing (not that either one can be calculated as there is no baseline), except we have proof of our universe existing and none for a god.
@@xelasomar4614 The probability of our universe existing is 100% as it's already here and we couldn't possibly compare it to anything else. The probability of god existing is currently 0% given he's never shown up and there's no reason to assume that he would.
@@victoriousf.i.g.3311 the probability of god is not even 0%. you calculate probability by dividing the number of expected results by the number of possible results. as no possible gods have been shown, the number of possible results in this case is 0. and as we all should know, dividing by 0 has no result. not even 0.
Joseph has not understood the cards odds. If you deal 100 cards, they will land in some order. Now if you say they cannot possibly be in that order because the odds are 1 in 10^100 you've made a mathematical error.. You don't analyse odds on something that has already happened. That is a logical and mathematical error. In Joseph's world you can put bets on yesterday's horse race.
@@donepearce I’d only add he’d have to demonstrate there’s something special about this particular outcome to justify citing the incredible odds of it happening Even then it can still happen by chance
@@Gumpmachine1 Agreed. A fundamental difference between Christians and atheists is that Christians assume themselves to be the center of the universe, or at least center adjacent, whereas atheists can comfortably reason that we are insignificant. And say god did exist? Scale it down. If a bacterium could think, it would see us as the universe. How much do we care about our bacteria? And a creature or being who is large enough or powerful enough to, say, create everything from nothing, who's to say our thoughts and various arts aren't simply the gaseous excretion of what they see as universal bacteria crawling across a pebble? If god existed and created us in his image, then he probably puts as much thought into humans as we put into yesterday's bowel movement. Of course, I can prove to my shit that I shat it, were it capable of reason and the audacity to ask, which puts me at an advantage.
Yeah he can’t grasp that the odds of a specific outcome only matter if you are Aiming for that specific outcome. Just like the Odds of getting a Royal Flush in poker are the exact same odds as getting any other hand.
The thing that gets me with probability is that even *if* everything was as rare as they say, how do they know (or why do they think) there was only one throw of the Dice?
@@victoriousf.i.g.3311let's say the chance of a planet in the right zone for life is small. There are billions of stars and many have planets that's many throws of the dice. It's like a lottery, the chance of a specific person winning is tiny, but nobody is surprised when someone wins. Each ticket was a "roll of the dice".
@@101Mant I can't go for that because it asks me to presuppose rarity. I would also prefer the original poster expand on it themselves given it was their statement.
@@sugartoothYT Yeah but again what I'm trying to do is see the expanded thoughts of the original poster. I don't have any interest in the presuppositions of a person who thinks they understand what the post means. I want the original poster to expand on their words themselves. I only responded to the second individual's post like I did as, to me, their speculation about what they THINK the post means does not equal the meaning of the original post and, therefore, is a separate point. And given I was directly asking someone else a question, I didn't have any desire to speak with the person who responded to me. That they engaged in obnoxious speculation about another person's meaning lowers that desire further. Remember, it isn't being helpful if no one is asking you for help.
No matter how small the chance of something happening, if it happens, it happens. Low probability even infinitesimally small, doesn't mean something that happened didn't happen. The universe exists as it is, unlikely or not. Period.
I think the problem some people have is extrapolating everyday experiences of probability to something well outside of common experience, like the creation of the universe. If you sit down to a 5-card-draw poker game with people you barely know, and soon get dealt a straight flush, and then lose all your money to a royal flush, then many people would suspect cheating, since the chances of those hands coming up against each other is very small. And from a Bayesian standpoint, it would be perfectly rational to put the probability of cheating quite high. This is because the priors of the Bayesian analysis can be estimated from experience and the knowledge that card cheaters exist. But with the creation of the universe, we have no experience to rely on and we have no knowledge that universe creators exist. So Bayesian analysis is a non-starter. But that does not stop some people from extrapolating their everyday experiences to the creation of the universe.
Yeah, but if a person wins the big lottery jackpot 3 times in a row, very likely it wasn't just luck against incredibly bad odds. Very HIGH chance there's some cheating going on somewhere. Because the odds of that happening by chance are so bad that even if you played the lottery since the time of the dinosaurs you probably couldn't get that to happen randomly. The lottery commission would be foolish not to look for someone committing lottery fraud somewhere if that happened.
If you have 100 cards, the odds of drawing them in any specific order is the same as drawing them in ascending numerical order. The odds are indeed unimaginably small. However, if you shuffle the cards and then draw them all, you will draw them in one of those orders. Unlikely, no matter how unlikely, is still possible.
'mathematical evidence' for a 'creator god' can not be based on ignorance of math, let alone making stuff up about 'probabilities', 'entropy' and 'cosmology'.
The odds of what has already happened is 1:1. It happened, the chance is 1 in 1. If we want to calculate probabilities for something that has already happened then let's start with the rain. The chance that you'll get hit by exactly those H2O molecules at that time in that place you are in is basically 0 so if you get wet in the rain it's magic. Taking what already happened (shooting an arrow into the air and observing where it lands) saying that this was the intent (painting the bullseye around the arrow) and proclaiming that the odds of that happening (that the arrow landed right in the bullseye) is so unlikely that God must have guided it. This is also known as the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. Appealing to a fallacy means you are always wrong.
@@mrsatire9475unless you are dealing with an actually probabilistic system like in quantum mechanics odds represents missing information. A chance of rolling a 6 on a specific dice roll isnt 1 in 6. It's completely deterministic depending on how it's thrown, it's just you don't have the information to calculate what will happen.
Here's the thing that creationists fail to consider when they start arguing probabilities - they seem to think that there is only one die being rolled once. It is billions of dice being rolled over and over.
Rolled by who? And where did they come from? Where did the "dice" come from? You're just another asinine, lost & clueless, shallow thinking atheist. The "beginning" of this FINITE WORLD of nature (time/space/matter/energy) is clearly explained by God: "In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter/energy)." - Genesis 1:1 No, there is only one universe and that is proved by the fact that when we reverse the expansion of this universe all the way back to the point that FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) didn't exist, all that's left is the SUPERNATURAL, which is uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@@brantsonoverton1367 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
@@richardyoung4400 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!! THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
@@Beacon80 Aw honey........... if you don't like "mud puddles" as your Godless cause for life, then choose one you like, but we both know that it will be equally asinine. Everything you atheists believe has been proven to be IMPOSSIBLE and you're quite pathetic to desperately cling to that atheist garbage.
@@brantsonoverton1367 Your claims of impossibility are mere unsubstantiated assertions and not proof. Your words aren't proof no matter how insincere you get.
Making up astonishingly big numbers cannot prove the existence of a creator god. This absurd numbers game was only made up to create a god of the gaps argument.
First you need an observation of something, then a hypothesis (with Actual testable details), teating, test results, conclusions, probably more tests etc. believers seem to skip all the steps, including the most important ones.....
The odds of any specific rain drop falling from a cloud and hitting the antenna of my car as I am driving down the interstate is extremely unlikely, and yet it happens all the time when its raining.
There was a time the probability argument made sense to me. For me what got me out of that line of thinking was playing cards. The odds 52 cards, properly shuffled, would end up in the combination it does is higher then the number of atoms in our galaxy. Meaning that every single day hundreds of dealers all over the world creat a combination that is profoundly unlikely without a God
"my definition of time is it's a description of a balance between energy and mass" Barring that these words don't make sense together in that order, we already know what describes the relationship between energy and mass - the speed of light. Maybe I'm a stupid atheist and all that, but I have trouble finding the term for time in the E=mc² equation.
You know who has to do that EVIL YWH.. THE EVIL PSYCHO THAT COMAMDNS DOES PEDO RAPIST GENOCIDER OF BABIES PREGNANT OWMAN ANIMALS SLAVERER STONE OR WOMAN CHLDREN CHILD EATER USE SWORDS ON PREGNANT OWMAN DASH SUCKLING INFANTS HEADS ON STONE EVIL YWH WATER GENOCIDE FIRSTBORNS EVIL SCUMABGS
Personally preposterous is not evidence of anything, though it might be convincing to an individual. Much of modern physics seems preposterous, for example. Thermodynamics applies to the entire system. Negative entropy; increasing order, exists within parts of the system. How does an intelligent creator effect a universe? By what mechanism does Reality Objectify? Why does this require an intelligent creator -- because the objects of your experience: chairs, houses, cars, &c. are intentionally manufactured does not mean all of reality is intentionally created. The probability of a spade suit royal flush occurring is exactly the same as the combination in ANY random hand. Every hand dealt results in an astronomically improbable combination of cards -- yet these improbabilities occur all the time.
Or, I could just as well say that given the starting parameters, the creation of this universe was inevitable. Well, no. I can't prove what the starting parameters were, but I feel in my guts that I'm right. 🤭
If god was real there would be no debate. Look how many religions there are because none of them are devine. A powerful god can make himself known without showing himself. Im sick of people thinking they were born to the right religion when all of them caim to be there one.
It's very easy to prove that God was created. As we all know, intelligence can only come from intelligence. God has intelligence which must have come from his maker.
If it's mathematical proof, then let's see them do it in the appropriate math for 2,000 odd years ago... in ROMAN NUMERALS... Not using Roman numerals disproves the method... lol
You draw a card out of a deck and the probability of it being any individual card, like the two of hearts, or the five of diamonds, etc, is one out of 52. However, that's us putting a special weight on a card. That's us looking for the probability of a specific card. Now if I asked what the probability is that the card I pulled from the deck and flip over will be a card from the deck? That probability is 100% because we've defined the event as such. That's what's occurred here. The events of the universe unfolded because events unfolded. There's no special weight on any of it other than a post off wait that we're putting on it given that it did happen. But something had to have happened and if something different happened then be looking at that instead. But the probability that something happened is 100%. It's not that special and this guy has tricked himself into thinking it's a low probability universe.
Here’s the problem with his argument. He’s the arguing for the improbability for a very specific scenario. Not creator based non-creator. If you flip a coin, there is a 50% chance it’ll be heads. But there’s an infinitesimally small chance it follows a super specific path to reach being heads (because there are so many paths for it to take) He’s conflating the incredibly specific oath to this point’s chances with a creator v non creator chances
Not even close. Typical shallow thinking atheist. You first have to explain the cause/source of the universe and not just that it was created to "work" a certain way. The "beginning" of this FINITE WORLD of nature (time/space/matter/energy) is clearly explained by God: "In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter/energy)." - Genesis 1:1 No, there is only one universe and that is proved by the fact that when we reverse the expansion of this universe all the way back to the point that FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) didn't exist, all that's left is the SUPERNATURAL, which is uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
DUMBEST Troll: Science has not found an explanation of ______________ So, my Invisible Sky Daddy is really really real. . "Born Again" means I-got-DUMBER and now believe in an Invisible Sky Daddy in another dimension who can do MAGIC. LOLZ
LOL! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!! THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
@@brantsonoverton1367 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
So I ran the math on a god creating the universe and found that it is way less probable than the number the caller came up with for the universe being natural. So for playing probabilities even though both are incredibly small, natural is still more probable. Does that mean I've disproven God mathematically? I guess according to this call or I have!
Absolutely! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!! THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
To me, things like 'reasoning' require a brain - it being the only example of any source of reasoning. We know that from very simple beginnings, it took 13.8 billion years for natural forces to evolve the first human brain. To conclude that some complex structure existed that could perform brain-like reasoning prior to all the time we know was required to arrive at the first example of reasoning brains seems to be putting the cart way before the horse. I suggest looking at things bottom-up (supported by the massive evidence of evolution) rather than top-down (unsupported creation, especially since there would be no reason that clear, unambiguous, obvious, and agreed upon massive evidence would be expected if creation were the case). Or choose one of many conflicting books of primitive myths and go with that if you find personal value in doing so - like many have done (via solely the random criteria of their parents or what happens to be popular in one's culture).
Probably the closest you'll get to a mathematical demonstration of God's existence is Godel's Ontological Proof. But that's FAR beyond my ability to understand. Godel was not a foolish man though. He was Albert Einstein's best friend and an accomplished mathematician. I'm a believer, but I don't think God is accessible in this manner. I believe he keeps himself hidden. But I can't argue against Godel because I can't understand him.
@@donspinella3706 It depends how you define gods and their formation. For example, if you define a god as something societies build to help rationalise the unknown then the odds are going to be 100% once human societies exist and don't know things.
Hard determinism isn't true. It doesn't matter how unlikely this universe ending up the way it is. It had a 100% chance of ending up some way, and it just happened to be the way it is. According to the caller, if I shuffled together 100 decks of cards and laid them all out, whatever order I got would be so unlikely that it must have been planned on purpose by god, even though it was 100% probability that there would be an order of cards. The state the universe is now wasn't planned from the beginning, it came about from the rules of physics combined with a low level of randomness. It doesn't matter how unlikely the specific state of the universe is now, it doesn't point to a god.
What about the probability of an uncaused being existing? Given every quark etc in the universe has some kind of cause, it has to be the closest thing to zero possible.
Joseph, what are the odds of rolling a six-sided die 8 times and getting an outcome of four in three of those rolls? Then multiply that by the odds of a universe existing which is necessary for those rolls to even be able to occur. I’ll tell you, you’ll have some problems if the probability of that universe is anything less than 1/1. 🙄
What a word salad of completely obscure and incoherent rambling that on its surface sound impressive and important, but still don't make any sense. I'm convinced that there will always be things in the universe that we will never have the ability to prove or understand. I'm ok with that! It doesn't mean that we give up or cave to concepts or theories just because we don't know. A large part of the human population in this messed up world has a really hard time with saying I don't know, but I'm willing to listen.
One reason that I believe there is a God or a higher power is because I did some research on the heart the other night and found out that the heart beats 100,000 times a day, 36 million times a year and around 3 billion times in an average life span. That is a miracle, considering one stop and your dead. So how is the heart beating like that when with one lost beat, the person would die, but it doesn't stop. How can that happen without a higher power being involved? And I mean not involved in the maintaining of it like doctors are, but who designed this process and how does it go for quite a while??
What you mean is you already believed so you have a confirmation bias. A heart beating is not a miracle we know how hearts evolved and it would have to stop for about 8 minutes before you die.
Hearts skip beats pretty commonly, it's called a palpitation. And we don't die from them. People have various heart arrythmias - medical conditions where their hearts do not beat regularly or properly - and they still live. So your assertion that one missed beat means death is patently false. This is medical fact. As for how it happened, it wasn't "designed" it was evolved. Hearts started out 500 million years ago in very small organisms as a simple tube which allowed the usage of pressure to speed up the diffusion of nutrients in a very simple open circulatory system. There's a good paper on it called "Evolutionary origins of the blood vascular system and endothelium." You can find it by googling that phrase verbatim.
@@revanmal I know that. But what I meant was how does it keep beating in a lifetime? And I meant one permanent stop. All it takes is one permanent stop. How does it not stop??? And if it's evolution, how come we haven't evolved to live forever??
@@lalomontoyajr.9282 Are you asking for a philosophical answer of "why" hearts keep beating without stopping until they do? Because that's not a question that I can answer, or anyone probably can, if it even has one. Creatures which relied on their heart to function and the heart gave out easily did not pass on their genetics, so those with strong hearts lived. That's evolution. As for why we aren't immortal, well for one there's no mechanism to halt the aging process. From what I understand, aging is caused by DNA degradation, and no mutation has occurred which halts that. With every cell division, DNA is copied incorrectly, and so we age. Evolution doesn't mean "the species gets stronger over time," it means that so long as external selection pressures don't end you before you can have children, the genes you possess will continue. That's it. We aren't eventually going to become superhuman, we'll just continue adapting to a changing environment or go extinct.
@@revanmal Yes I mean philosophically. Our hearts have got to be kept alive by some higher power. I don't think it's evolution or a simple physical function. I believe there's more to it. Your second answer about how evolution works and how we are passed our genes from our parents and they get there genes from there parents before them and so on and so on proves my point that life comes from God, because I was born with TGA, a rare and deadly heart deformity, and my descendents before me where born healthy and strong. How do you explain that?
i am not sure about the mathematics though i dont agree with the arguement it cant just be random chance. I say that it can because of the sheer unfathomable size of the universe- i think am correct in saying is 94 billion light years and that is just the visible and the potential number of planets, stars etc maybe billions or trillions so as an example the chances of there being other life supporting planets being produced are increased. Its like the rolling the dice scenario as already stated if you roll dices enough times there are more chances of getting two sixes if you have two sixes for example. i agree you cant prove a god just by using mathematics.
"I say that it can because of the sheer unfathomable size of the universe- i think am correct in saying is 94 billion light years" That's only for the observable universe. The entire universe is at least that big, and potentially infinite (increasing even more the amount of rolls for the rest of your comment)
@@quentind1924 well we don't know if is infinite but I agree that the more times you roll a dice the greater a chance . The whole thing is mind boggling the idea of infinity with or without a creator.
@@joshsheridan9511 yes it was not inevitable. I was talking about those suggesting it can't be random chance that the earth was created and life created so there must have been a god or creator. I don't know if there is or isnt an intelligent creator but I don't discount it just being chance. Yes things exist but I don't know what you mean by everything is inevitable . if something exists then i dont know what you mean it had to be inevitable that it exists .
zero? really. are you locked in a basement? wilfully blind. Luckily God wakes up everyone with one large MASSIVE MIRACLE. Lazarus was one man raised back to life. localized in Jerusalem. But God's next miracle is to raise all the dead. What will you do when 50 billion dead people wake up? Fully restored. When they outnumber you 8 to 1. will you say its an illusion? what caused it? Nanobots? aliens? we tell you in advance... JESUS. so it shames you. You will be in teh tribulation. they mark you not with 666. dogwalker666. they mark you with LEVIATHAN. O. oo. You are part of Leviathan. their church of Satan. You then are done. we turn on the oven to 1000 degrees. for eternity. INFINITY symbol.
OH MAN! LOL! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!! THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
@@brantsonoverton1367 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
Deuterium is just the other stable isotope of hydrogen (the other one being hydrogen-1, protium or what we usually just call hydrogen. Hydrogen-2 is deuterium) with one neutron, one proton and one electron. Atoms is a weird place to start though. What about the six quarks? Gluons? Muons and other leptons? Gluons is such an exciting virtual particle in and of itself. It's basically magic when explained. They have no mass but make up one third of the mass of neutrons and protons through vibration. They pop into reality one by one, assemble in 8 "colours" and then pop right back out of reality just to be replaced, one by one. Modern physics, man.... To a biochemist like me it's indistinguishable from getting super high and making shit up except that it's evidence based so it's real.
you gott the timeless no movement to movement or 0 to 1 change all wrong, and the caller fanatics won the battle in their minds, and you guys won the click bait withc is worthless smooth move e-lax
I just saw cotton growing from the ground.. if not God, who? Rite on time when the weather is starting to change... God, has it all thought out already you were seen doing it b4 you did it...
Or, that's just a natural process in action. If a "god" were responsible, would flowers bloom at exactly the same time, the same way every year? If not, why the differential? Why blossom near the beginning of a month one year, and blooming an entirely different month another year?
@@ranuiqh The Big Bang is merely the expansion of already existing mass-energy (well technically these things called tensors or something but that's beside the point). It's an expansion of an already existing something. There is no "nothing" involved.
Then there would be multiple possibilities of what was before the big bang. One of them is the big bounce theory, but there are many other possibilities. Scientists don't rule out that there was things before the big bang, but we have no way to know what it could have been
I believe God shows himself through math yes. In particular, the number Pi. Pi is an irrational number that never ends or repeats. It was discovered in ancient human history (in Archimedes’ time) and is coincidentally the result of dividing ANY circle’s circumference by its diameter. Pi was created by God to showcase His perfect order
@@Blue-moon00that doesn't address my question at all. If I wanted to show myself to people I'd just do it, I wouldn't go through all this cryptic rigamarole. That's creepy.
I’m gonna play a game called Paper Mario today. Hope I still like it, haven’t played it since I was a kid. I haven’t played any video games for a while in fact.
Just don't play any competitive online game, you'll just get shredded, or you'd get banned from flooding the chat with your usual unsolicited life comments.
@@Thunderbolt-9 I have some life advice for you. If you can learn to enjoy your own company you might find that the women you want to meet might also enjoy your own company. To put that another way, the reasons you don't like being alone with yourself are probably the same reasons those women don't want to be alone with you.
We can’t see atoms or eves.😂 we go by our belief systems. Then! We have understandable science. Which can absolutely be proven. I believe Nothing I hear and half what I see. And I’ll keep the rest of my beliefs to myself 😂
I dont beleive in god and i fear death and want to be immortal ans i fear that i didnt rally humanity and push atheism enogun to make us bring about immortality
GLORY!!!'m favoured, $140K every 3weeks! And I am retired i can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America🇺🇸❤️
If there was no God we wouldn’t be here and neither would mathematics, nor anything for that matter. But since there is God, we’re here with everything else in the world
Why are you so angry? Stop denying His existence and find peace and salvation in the loving embrace of the one TRUE living God Tupã! Find peace in the knowledge that Tupã's paradise will yours in the afterlife. 🤣
@@Gumpmachine1 WHAT!?😳 Are you trying to say that no one has presented evidence of ANY kind...empirical demonstrable evidence supported by objectively verified facts of course being the best....sufficient to substantiate the claims/assertions of the existence of any deities...including my favorites😉...in our shared reality??
I’m beginning to watch this video. I believe that the lead cause of agnosticism or atheism are due to big mouth religious, cultisms. I’m me. I choose to keep my beliefs or my own non beliefs to myself. I will only give my sociable opinion, while I’m okay with being wrong with that. But, I can’t accept a person telling me what I should or should not believe in. I’ll keep that to myself
So I guess you are not voting or making any decisions that could Impact others, based in your beliefs... Because that is what really matters. And no, the reasons for atheism are diverse. I'm an atheist, because there is no sufficend evidence, for any god.
Fibonacci kinda does suggest that math points to God, many sequences and patterns considered under a philosophical scope are akin to procedural generation in a digital world. If everything was Chaos then we wouldn't see such perfected interconnected mathematical algorithms. From a spiral shell to a Galaxy we observe one of God's incredible mathematic insights.
"Fibonacci kinda does suggest that math points to God" No it doesn't, in absolutly no way. "many sequences and patterns considered under a philosophical scope are akin to procedural generation in a digital world." This sentence is total gibberish.
@@AXKfUN9m You atheists always put irrelevant statements before reality to confuse yourselves more. You already know God exists, The evidence is your every breath and you're so clouded in delusion you can't smell it. That's the truth, That's why there are more theists than atheists and why we feel fulfilled in life and you feel infuriated by it. We connect to the creator and are rewarded. You seek to destroy the creator which is futile and self defeating. You have no hope or faith, no reason to live or love, You only exist to try to deny your reality through a false paradigm of physical proof = only reality.
@@vertigo4236 haha you just PROVED my reply to the last guy, The evidence stacks as atheists keep TRYING! Design would follow a set of algorithms and patterns, it's a fact LOL Even a TODDLER would presume design based on that evidence alone.
“Big numbers scare and confuse me, therefore god”
Incredible
Yup.
And he does not understand how odds work.
The big numbers indicate human thought does not operate by randomness alone. Dawkins in the Blind Watchmaker is happy to acknowledge that the complexity of a literary work like Hamlet CAN be generated fairly quickly by an algorithm, but pure chance, no way. Universe isn't near old enough. That's why evolution and life have to have rules like natural selection to happen. Can't be just pure randomness. The odds are too bad.
@@theboombody
There are patterns to the randomness, but not all are known at present.
@@TheSkyGuy77 When something isn't known, it doesn't count as evidence. Don't be selective in your application of skepticism.
@@theboombody
I'm not being selective.
I am Austin Fuku and viewing from South Africa, and the concept of atheism has opened my eyes from the fallacies of religion and cultural rituals. Thank you for the eye-opening channel!🤗😁🤣🤣
Nice.
For me, the concept of theism opened my eyes for its fallacies. 😉
I was in SA in 1985. Was up in the Northern Transvaal (different now), and then went to Botswana, Zimbabwe, and Zambia. Was in Namibia about 20 times illegally. Was in a boat, stuck in a swamp on the border to Botswana.
Where do you live?
@@maynardlikethecandy5347
Well, you have traveled a lot, lol 😂
In South Africa at Johannesburg, near the mining area in Carletonville.
I hope you find what your looking for , for me I believe religion is an insult to human intelligence
@@xpresstutoring
Was only in JBurg landing, and taking off!
I strongly urge you to travel. Get to Europe, and/or North America. Find a partner, get married, and immigrate. Your life will change for the better X’s 100, I promise you!
Me being born and years later sitting outside in Scandinavia in end of September with a beer is also very unlikely.... but here we are.
Cheers 😂😂😂
I am also in Scandinavia (if Finland counts in). I just listened this video. I have no beer but I came just home and I'm going to sit down in my hanging chair on my balcony and drink a little wine. It's very warm outside.
I love this... 🍻
Right. Just imagine the moment of conception. Millions of sperms were fighting for that one egg and only one speciific made it. Just a tiny tiny differrence and a micro second delay and you would be a completely different person. Yet you're still here. Now imagine us that are reading and commenting on your comment. The same applies to us. So the probability that the events played out as they have is virtually zero, yet it happened.
@@Bunny99s Yeah, no god needed
@@kimhoffmannandersen5477 Yes, I know Finland is not part of Scandinavia. But sometimes, commenting videos where most commenters are from US, I just don't want to be quite so peculiar and different. Although I sometimes brag about our language which does not have separate pronouns for you-know-what. And, after following the sad case of sweet Madeline Soto, I realized we don't even have "teen age". Even our numbers are odd.
Anyway... second glass of wine, still warm on the balcony, everything seems peaceful and nice on the streets below. My brave Finnish Lapphund already sleeping sound on the couch. Everything all right.
Ask Joseph to throw a billion dice and record their outcomes, then calculate the probability of that exact outcome, and ask him if he believes that he could actually have thrown that outcome.
Probability is about prediction not postdiction.
@@frogandspanner I believe that was his point.
@@frogandspannerWasn’t that his point? Saying that you could argue any outcome would be “unbelievable”?
The probability of a god existing, is the same as our current universe existing (not that either one can be calculated as there is no baseline), except we have proof of our universe existing and none for a god.
@@xelasomar4614 The probability of our universe existing is 100% as it's already here and we couldn't possibly compare it to anything else.
The probability of god existing is currently 0% given he's never shown up and there's no reason to assume that he would.
@@victoriousf.i.g.3311 the probability of god is not even 0%. you calculate probability by dividing the number of expected results by the number of possible results.
as no possible gods have been shown, the number of possible results in this case is 0. and as we all should know, dividing by 0 has no result. not even 0.
"As far as I'm concerned", said no scientist, ever.
The guy is physics-illiterate and doesn't know it. The 1st is acceptable, the 2nd is not.
Joseph has not understood the cards odds. If you deal 100 cards, they will land in some order. Now if you say they cannot possibly be in that order because the odds are 1 in 10^100 you've made a mathematical error.. You don't analyse odds on something that has already happened. That is a logical and mathematical error. In Joseph's world you can put bets on yesterday's horse race.
@@donepearce I’d only add he’d have to demonstrate there’s something special about this particular outcome to justify citing the incredible odds of it happening
Even then it can still happen by chance
@@Gumpmachine1 The weak anthropic principle is all you need to demolish that - Douglas Adams's puddle.
@@donepearce that’s pretty much what they end up doing.
“ I think this universe is important because I’m here”
@@Gumpmachine1 Agreed. A fundamental difference between Christians and atheists is that Christians assume themselves to be the center of the universe, or at least center adjacent, whereas atheists can comfortably reason that we are insignificant.
And say god did exist? Scale it down. If a bacterium could think, it would see us as the universe. How much do we care about our bacteria?
And a creature or being who is large enough or powerful enough to, say, create everything from nothing, who's to say our thoughts and various arts aren't simply the gaseous excretion of what they see as universal bacteria crawling across a pebble?
If god existed and created us in his image, then he probably puts as much thought into humans as we put into yesterday's bowel movement.
Of course, I can prove to my shit that I shat it, were it capable of reason and the audacity to ask, which puts me at an advantage.
Yeah he can’t grasp that the odds of a specific outcome only matter if you are Aiming for that specific outcome.
Just like the Odds of getting a Royal Flush in poker are the exact same odds as getting any other hand.
The thing that gets me with probability is that even *if* everything was as rare as they say, how do they know (or why do they think) there was only one throw of the Dice?
Intriguing. Mind expanding on that?
@@victoriousf.i.g.3311let's say the chance of a planet in the right zone for life is small.
There are billions of stars and many have planets that's many throws of the dice.
It's like a lottery, the chance of a specific person winning is tiny, but nobody is surprised when someone wins. Each ticket was a "roll of the dice".
@@101Mant I can't go for that because it asks me to presuppose rarity.
I would also prefer the original poster expand on it themselves given it was their statement.
@@victoriousf.i.g.3311the main comment literally was about working with a presupposed rarity.
@@sugartoothYT Yeah but again what I'm trying to do is see the expanded thoughts of the original poster. I don't have any interest in the presuppositions of a person who thinks they understand what the post means. I want the original poster to expand on their words themselves. I only responded to the second individual's post like I did as, to me, their speculation about what they THINK the post means does not equal the meaning of the original post and, therefore, is a separate point.
And given I was directly asking someone else a question, I didn't have any desire to speak with the person who responded to me. That they engaged in obnoxious speculation about another person's meaning lowers that desire further.
Remember, it isn't being helpful if no one is asking you for help.
No matter how small the chance of something happening, if it happens, it happens. Low probability even infinitesimally small, doesn't mean something that happened didn't happen.
The universe exists as it is, unlikely or not. Period.
I think the problem some people have is extrapolating everyday experiences of probability to something well outside of common experience, like the creation of the universe.
If you sit down to a 5-card-draw poker game with people you barely know, and soon get dealt a straight flush, and then lose all your money to a royal flush, then many people would suspect cheating, since the chances of those hands coming up against each other is very small. And from a Bayesian standpoint, it would be perfectly rational to put the probability of cheating quite high. This is because the priors of the Bayesian analysis can be estimated from experience and the knowledge that card cheaters exist.
But with the creation of the universe, we have no experience to rely on and we have no knowledge that universe creators exist. So Bayesian analysis is a non-starter. But that does not stop some people from extrapolating their everyday experiences to the creation of the universe.
Yeah, but if a person wins the big lottery jackpot 3 times in a row, very likely it wasn't just luck against incredibly bad odds. Very HIGH chance there's some cheating going on somewhere. Because the odds of that happening by chance are so bad that even if you played the lottery since the time of the dinosaurs you probably couldn't get that to happen randomly. The lottery commission would be foolish not to look for someone committing lottery fraud somewhere if that happened.
My two favorite hosts!!!
When the caller knows less about math and science than you do, and you suck at math…
He is wrong but I would argue with high confidence that he knows way more than the average person.
Texas Sharpshooter fallacy. Firing an arrow and painting a bullseye around wherever it hit.
Get your bingo cards out folks. This is a jackpot game. Full house takes all.
There are so many atoms, that I think we can say the odds of an atom forming is 1.
Im not bad at math but ive never done math and thought my conclusion was divine 😂😂
I'm a simple mind. I don't see god. I don't have evidence for one.
You can’t see lots of things but they are still true.
@@toma3447 but god aint
@@paolagrando5079 that’s a leap in logic.
@@toma3447 please, give e examples, of what isn't visible but exists.
If you have 100 cards, the odds of drawing them in any specific order is the same as drawing them in ascending numerical order. The odds are indeed unimaginably small. However, if you shuffle the cards and then draw them all, you will draw them in one of those orders. Unlikely, no matter how unlikely, is still possible.
'mathematical evidence' for a 'creator god' can not be based on ignorance of math, let alone making stuff up about 'probabilities', 'entropy' and 'cosmology'.
Probability of any of this is one in 42.
Yes, but what is the question?
@@Jo-JoandTaffy You’d need a computer the size of the Earth to find out what the question is!
The odds of what has already happened is 1:1. It happened, the chance is 1 in 1.
If we want to calculate probabilities for something that has already happened then let's start with the rain. The chance that you'll get hit by exactly those H2O molecules at that time in that place you are in is basically 0 so if you get wet in the rain it's magic.
Taking what already happened (shooting an arrow into the air and observing where it lands) saying that this was the intent (painting the bullseye around the arrow) and proclaiming that the odds of that happening (that the arrow landed right in the bullseye) is so unlikely that God must have guided it.
This is also known as the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. Appealing to a fallacy means you are always wrong.
Great explanation, and I perfectly understood it. Thank you!
What is the meaning of the odds?
The odds are the chances that something will happen
@@mrsatire9475unless you are dealing with an actually probabilistic system like in quantum mechanics odds represents missing information.
A chance of rolling a 6 on a specific dice roll isnt 1 in 6. It's completely deterministic depending on how it's thrown, it's just you don't have the information to calculate what will happen.
@@101Mant So even then it's not 1:1
@@mrsatire9475 Exactly, it only works for things that *will* happen, the odds of something that already happened is 1:1.
They are funny... mathematical proof of god. Such nonsense. 🤣
Here's the thing that creationists fail to consider when they start arguing probabilities - they seem to think that there is only one die being rolled once. It is billions of dice being rolled over and over.
They have never played Yahtzee.
life in the beginning was reproductive ...by a series of lucky chance accidents
Rolled by who? And where did they come from? Where did the "dice" come from? You're just another asinine, lost & clueless, shallow thinking atheist. The "beginning" of this FINITE WORLD of nature (time/space/matter/energy) is clearly explained by God:
"In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter/energy)." - Genesis 1:1
No, there is only one universe and that is proved by the fact that when we reverse the expansion of this universe all the way back to the point that FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) didn't exist, all that's left is the SUPERNATURAL, which is uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@@brantsonoverton1367 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
@@richardyoung4400 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
Caller needs to read an intro book on physics AND stats before trying to use physics and stats as the basis of any argument.
The high school mathematics curriculum that covers probability would be more than enough to show him the silliness of what he just said.
@@holgerlubotzki3469 I remember doing that before high school, like 7th or 8th grade or so... in _Mississippi_ of all places 😂
What is the probability that atoms will form?
100%
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!!
THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
Some of my best friends are Atoms
@@brantsonoverton1367What is your obsession with mud puddles? You're the only one talking about them. Put down the Straw Man.
@@Beacon80 Aw honey........... if you don't like "mud puddles" as your Godless cause for life, then choose one you like, but we both know that it will be equally asinine. Everything you atheists believe has been proven to be IMPOSSIBLE and you're quite pathetic to desperately cling to that atheist garbage.
@@brantsonoverton1367
Your claims of impossibility are mere unsubstantiated assertions and not proof. Your words aren't proof no matter how insincere you get.
Making up astonishingly big numbers cannot prove the existence of a creator god. This absurd numbers game was only made up to create a god of the gaps argument.
First you need an observation of something, then a hypothesis (with Actual testable details), teating, test results, conclusions, probably more tests etc.
believers seem to skip all the steps, including the most important ones.....
The 'I pull it right out of my..... ear' argument.
RUclips scientist.
The odds of any specific rain drop falling from a cloud and hitting the antenna of my car as I am driving down the interstate is extremely unlikely, and yet it happens all the time when its raining.
The possibility of a universe forming as we see it is 1:1 . All this number waving is a smoke screen.
There was a time the probability argument made sense to me. For me what got me out of that line of thinking was playing cards. The odds 52 cards, properly shuffled, would end up in the combination it does is higher then the number of atoms in our galaxy. Meaning that every single day hundreds of dealers all over the world creat a combination that is profoundly unlikely without a God
it's the "Trust Me, Bro" argument. LOL
The thing is, this Universe DOES exist so probability is irrelevant. You then move on to evidence for your claim.
I wonder what the odds are of a God forming ? mmmmmmm wait I'll get my calculator and I'll get back to you !
The first three minutes just make me wanna say ‘good thanks’
I like his analogy of time - the gradient of pure energy/mass. I wouldn't try to publish it in _Nature_ yet, but I wouldn't ridicule it.
While E does = Mc² saying atoms are made of 'compressed energy' is highly misleading.
"confined energy" sure. Not sure what it means to compress energy.
@@dragonfiremalus he meant energy compressed into a small particle. I wouldnt put too much stock in the words he used.
Meh, energy is just matter paste 😂
@@nealjroberts4050 id say its the oposite and matter is energy paste .
"my definition of time is it's a description of a balance between energy and mass"
Barring that these words don't make sense together in that order, we already know what describes the relationship between energy and mass - the speed of light. Maybe I'm a stupid atheist and all that, but I have trouble finding the term for time in the E=mc² equation.
If he had any actual proof, if any of them did, they wouldn’t have to resort to such obvious BS.
The square root of -1 is the answer for God... (hint it's an imaginary number).
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We know so little and talk so much that we essentially end up chasing our tails around and round. Therefore, God exists! Right?
Just before Jeremy, Peter, Mark and the other one arrives…….
REPAINT!
We will just gloss over your comment 😂😂
You know who has to do that EVIL YWH.. THE EVIL PSYCHO THAT COMAMDNS DOES
PEDO RAPIST GENOCIDER OF BABIES
PREGNANT OWMAN ANIMALS
SLAVERER
STONE OR WOMAN CHLDREN
CHILD EATER
USE SWORDS ON PREGNANT OWMAN
DASH SUCKLING INFANTS HEADS ON STONE
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Jeez, no.
I spent the whole summer moving furniture and painting everything.
Starting again now it's a big no no :D
@@dogwalker666
Oh no! Are you giving me the brush off?
Could you not just roll with it?
@@thomaswigfield7623 Sorry what did you Spray?
Personally preposterous is not evidence of anything, though it might be convincing to an individual. Much of modern physics seems preposterous, for example.
Thermodynamics applies to the entire system. Negative entropy; increasing order, exists within parts of the system.
How does an intelligent creator effect a universe? By what mechanism does Reality Objectify? Why does this require an intelligent creator -- because the objects of your experience: chairs, houses, cars, &c. are intentionally manufactured does not mean all of reality is intentionally created.
The probability of a spade suit royal flush occurring is exactly the same as the combination in ANY random hand. Every hand dealt results in an astronomically improbable combination of cards -- yet these improbabilities occur all the time.
Nature is the only creator.
That we are aware of.
If you have 100 dice it takes trillions of rolls to get 100 6s but if you keep the 6s on each roll it only takes around 40 rolls.
Or, I could just as well say that given the starting parameters, the creation of this universe was inevitable. Well, no. I can't prove what the starting parameters were, but I feel in my guts that I'm right. 🤭
To stick with the dice. He says if you roll a 6 sided dice many times and wish really hard, eventually it will land on a 20.
No it doesn't.
If god was real there would be no debate. Look how many religions there are because none of them are devine. A powerful god can make himself known without showing himself. Im sick of people thinking they were born to the right religion when all of them caim to be there one.
It's very easy to prove that God was created.
As we all know, intelligence can only come from intelligence.
God has intelligence which must have come from his maker.
"it's huge! like 1/10^500"
so... not huge then...? 😂
If it's mathematical proof, then let's see them do it in the appropriate math for 2,000 odd years ago... in ROMAN NUMERALS...
Not using Roman numerals disproves the method... lol
No, no! Nothing of those pagan inventions. Only kosher, ancient Hebrew numerals allowed!
You draw a card out of a deck and the probability of it being any individual card, like the two of hearts, or the five of diamonds, etc, is one out of 52. However, that's us putting a special weight on a card. That's us looking for the probability of a specific card. Now if I asked what the probability is that the card I pulled from the deck and flip over will be a card from the deck? That probability is 100% because we've defined the event as such. That's what's occurred here. The events of the universe unfolded because events unfolded. There's no special weight on any of it other than a post off wait that we're putting on it given that it did happen. But something had to have happened and if something different happened then be looking at that instead. But the probability that something happened is 100%. It's not that special and this guy has tricked himself into thinking it's a low probability universe.
Really wacky call.
Here’s the problem with his argument.
He’s the arguing for the improbability for a very specific scenario. Not creator based non-creator.
If you flip a coin, there is a 50% chance it’ll be heads. But there’s an infinitesimally small chance it follows a super specific path to reach being heads (because there are so many paths for it to take)
He’s conflating the incredibly specific oath to this point’s chances with a creator v non creator chances
Pathetic argument from incredulity mixed with a mess on entropy.
What is the probability that an atom would form, given the known laws (descriptions) of how the universe works? 100%
Not even close. Typical shallow thinking atheist. You first have to explain the cause/source of the universe and not just that it was created to "work" a certain way. The "beginning" of this FINITE WORLD of nature (time/space/matter/energy) is clearly explained by God:
"In the beginning (time), God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter/energy)." - Genesis 1:1
No, there is only one universe and that is proved by the fact that when we reverse the expansion of this universe all the way back to the point that FINITE NATURE (time/space/matter/energy) didn't exist, all that's left is the SUPERNATURAL, which is uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you enter hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).
@@brantsonoverton1367
Invoking things you cannot prove just because you are ignorant and incredulous still won't make your beliefs true by default
DUMBEST Troll: Science has not found an explanation of ______________ So, my Invisible Sky Daddy is really really real.
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"Born Again" means I-got-DUMBER and now believe in an Invisible Sky Daddy in another dimension who can do MAGIC.
LOLZ
LOL! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!!
THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
@@brantsonoverton1367 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
Oh please, “we came from goo that turned into a fish, then an ape, then us. I’m so smart.”
LOLZ
@@Blue-moon00
Misrepresentation of science won't make your beliefs true by default
So I ran the math on a god creating the universe and found that it is way less probable than the number the caller came up with for the universe being natural. So for playing probabilities even though both are incredibly small, natural is still more probable. Does that mean I've disproven God mathematically? I guess according to this call or I have!
Absolutely! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!!
THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
@@brantsonoverton1367
Your intense need to be someone's teacher won't make your beliefs true by default
To me, things like 'reasoning' require a brain - it being the only example of any source of reasoning. We know that from very simple beginnings, it took 13.8 billion years for natural forces to evolve the first human brain.
To conclude that some complex structure existed that could perform brain-like reasoning prior to all the time we know was required to arrive at the first example of reasoning brains seems to be putting the cart way before the horse.
I suggest looking at things bottom-up (supported by the massive evidence of evolution) rather than top-down (unsupported creation, especially since there would be no reason that clear, unambiguous, obvious, and agreed upon massive evidence would be expected if creation were the case).
Or choose one of many conflicting books of primitive myths and go with that if you find personal value in doing so - like many have done (via solely the random criteria of their parents or what happens to be popular in one's culture).
Joseph has never looked at any other possibility. He started with god done did it, and is trying to force the math to fit his beliefs.
All these people calling in a suggesting that maths can prove the existence of a god… it’s absolutely wild.
i am a femdom furry since my name is dog backwards
I am probably too old to get your joke, but I am sure that it was funny. Good job.
@@Jo-JoandTaffy if you don't get it, time for your "punishment" 😘
@@God-ld6ll The furry community gets too much unwarranted hate. Here's a hug! 🤗
Probably the closest you'll get to a mathematical demonstration of God's existence is Godel's Ontological Proof. But that's FAR beyond my ability to understand. Godel was not a foolish man though. He was Albert Einstein's best friend and an accomplished mathematician.
I'm a believer, but I don't think God is accessible in this manner. I believe he keeps himself hidden. But I can't argue against Godel because I can't understand him.
My brain hurts…
I love how people take intellectual shortcuts and think they are smart.
Okay Joe.
So what are the odds
Of gods?
0 %
@@donspinella3706
It depends how you define gods and their formation.
For example, if you define a god as something societies build to help rationalise the unknown then the odds are going to be 100% once human societies exist and don't know things.
@@nealjroberts4050 Yes, I would define a "GOD" as something humans invented , for whatever reason
@@donspinella3706
Then your original answer is wrong
@@nealjroberts4050 show your evidence for the existence of your God.
Hard determinism isn't true. It doesn't matter how unlikely this universe ending up the way it is. It had a 100% chance of ending up some way, and it just happened to be the way it is. According to the caller, if I shuffled together 100 decks of cards and laid them all out, whatever order I got would be so unlikely that it must have been planned on purpose by god, even though it was 100% probability that there would be an order of cards. The state the universe is now wasn't planned from the beginning, it came about from the rules of physics combined with a low level of randomness. It doesn't matter how unlikely the specific state of the universe is now, it doesn't point to a god.
The universe has zero total energy. Entropy has been satisfied at the BB.
And did our friend calculate the odds of a God sorting stuff out before there was any stuff ? "Hey presto ! I command a universe be made ! "
What about the probability of an uncaused being existing? Given every quark etc in the universe has some kind of cause, it has to be the closest thing to zero possible.
Joseph, what are the odds of rolling a six-sided die 8 times and getting an outcome of four in three of those rolls? Then multiply that by the odds of a universe existing which is necessary for those rolls to even be able to occur.
I’ll tell you, you’ll have some problems if the probability of that universe is anything less than 1/1. 🙄
The probability of the Universe is 1.
What a word salad of completely obscure and incoherent rambling that on its surface sound impressive and important, but still don't make any sense. I'm convinced that there will always be things in the universe that we will never have the ability to prove or understand. I'm ok with that! It doesn't mean that we give up or cave to concepts or theories just because we don't know. A large part of the human population in this messed up world has a really hard time with saying I don't know, but I'm willing to listen.
One reason that I believe there is a God or a higher power is because I did some research on the heart the other night and found out that the heart beats 100,000 times a day, 36 million times a year and around 3 billion times in an average life span. That is a miracle, considering one stop and your dead. So how is the heart beating like that when with one lost beat, the person would die, but it doesn't stop. How can that happen without a higher power being involved? And I mean not involved in the maintaining of it like doctors are, but who designed this process and how does it go for quite a while??
What you mean is you already believed so you have a confirmation bias.
A heart beating is not a miracle we know how hearts evolved and it would have to stop for about 8 minutes before you die.
Hearts skip beats pretty commonly, it's called a palpitation. And we don't die from them. People have various heart arrythmias - medical conditions where their hearts do not beat regularly or properly - and they still live. So your assertion that one missed beat means death is patently false. This is medical fact.
As for how it happened, it wasn't "designed" it was evolved. Hearts started out 500 million years ago in very small organisms as a simple tube which allowed the usage of pressure to speed up the diffusion of nutrients in a very simple open circulatory system. There's a good paper on it called "Evolutionary origins of the blood vascular system and endothelium." You can find it by googling that phrase verbatim.
@@revanmal I know that. But what I meant was how does it keep beating in a lifetime? And I meant one permanent stop. All it takes is one permanent stop. How does it not stop??? And if it's evolution, how come we haven't evolved to live forever??
@@lalomontoyajr.9282 Are you asking for a philosophical answer of "why" hearts keep beating without stopping until they do? Because that's not a question that I can answer, or anyone probably can, if it even has one. Creatures which relied on their heart to function and the heart gave out easily did not pass on their genetics, so those with strong hearts lived. That's evolution.
As for why we aren't immortal, well for one there's no mechanism to halt the aging process. From what I understand, aging is caused by DNA degradation, and no mutation has occurred which halts that. With every cell division, DNA is copied incorrectly, and so we age. Evolution doesn't mean "the species gets stronger over time," it means that so long as external selection pressures don't end you before you can have children, the genes you possess will continue. That's it. We aren't eventually going to become superhuman, we'll just continue adapting to a changing environment or go extinct.
@@revanmal Yes I mean philosophically. Our hearts have got to be kept alive by some higher power. I don't think it's evolution or a simple physical function. I believe there's more to it. Your second answer about how evolution works and how we are passed our genes from our parents and they get there genes from there parents before them and so on and so on proves my point that life comes from God, because I was born with TGA, a rare and deadly heart deformity, and my descendents before me where born healthy and strong. How do you explain that?
Joe, decaff...
So much "word salad"...
i am not sure about the mathematics though i dont agree with the arguement it cant just be random chance. I say that it can because of the sheer unfathomable size of the universe- i think am correct in saying is 94 billion light years and that is just the visible and the potential number of planets, stars etc maybe billions or trillions so as an example the chances of there being other life supporting planets being produced are increased. Its like the rolling the dice scenario as already stated if you roll dices enough times there are more chances of getting two sixes if you have two sixes for example. i agree you cant prove a god just by using mathematics.
"I say that it can because of the sheer unfathomable size of the universe- i think am correct in saying is 94 billion light years"
That's only for the observable universe. The entire universe is at least that big, and potentially infinite (increasing even more the amount of rolls for the rest of your comment)
@@quentind1924 well we don't know if is infinite but I agree that the more times you roll a dice the greater a chance . The whole thing is mind boggling the idea of infinity with or without a creator.
Chance? From the first nanosecond of universal expansion, everything was inevitable, since it exists.
@@joshsheridan9511 yes it was not inevitable. I was talking about those suggesting it can't be random chance that the earth was created and life created so there must have been a god or creator. I don't know if there is or isnt an intelligent creator but I don't discount it just being chance. Yes things exist but I don't know what you mean by everything is inevitable . if something exists then i dont know what you mean it had to be inevitable that it exists .
Wasn’t the the plot of the movie Pi?
I have no idea what he’s talking about.
So yet again Zero evidence for any of the gods.
DO YOU MIND?! I was a couple minutes in and you spoiled it!
😜
@@donnakeferlis1649 oh dear should have put "Spoiler Alert" at the beginning.
Actually he made a very good argument here: 14:21
@@ChristianIce lol good one.
zero? really. are you locked in a basement? wilfully blind. Luckily God wakes up everyone with one large MASSIVE MIRACLE. Lazarus was one man raised back to life. localized in Jerusalem. But God's next miracle is to raise all the dead. What will you do when 50 billion dead people wake up? Fully restored. When they outnumber you 8 to 1. will you say its an illusion? what caused it? Nanobots? aliens? we tell you in advance... JESUS. so it shames you. You will be in teh tribulation. they mark you not with 666. dogwalker666. they mark you with LEVIATHAN. O. oo. You are part of Leviathan. their church of Satan. You then are done. we turn on the oven to 1000 degrees. for eternity. INFINITY symbol.
1 - 1 = gods
Wow. This caller is delusional with his big numbers and more than 150 zeros. God doesn't exist.. It's all imagination.
OH MAN! LOL! YOU COULDN'T BE MORE SPOT ON! LOL! A MUD PUDDLE DID IT! LOL! Clearly, it was a mud puddle (or star dust?) that came from nothing by nothing to do nothing and be nothing & produced the first cell with systems within to eat, digest food, eliminate waste, move, breathe & reproduce, NOT TO MENTION that FIRST CELL contained the DNA blueprints for 9 million DIFFERENT species of life, the human being and 300,000 DIFFERENT plants. NAH! It didn't take a God to do that :) MOON DIRT DID IT! LOL!!
THAT is the bald face stupidity of atheism UNLESS of course, you have a better atheist explanation for reality. I'll be glad to hear it, but we both know you don't. And that means you're the very definition of being "lost & clueless" when it comes to reality. God is real and EVERYTHING we observe (e.g. life, intelligence, love, consciousness, morality) is only explained by an INFINITE CAUSE that has the intelligence, power, purpose, resources & means that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind. We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD and there is no other option. That's why no atheist has a rational/possible, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one.
Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). For now, you and your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution).
@@brantsonoverton1367 NOTHING of your asinine, lost & clueless Christian cult can be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. For over the 50 yrs I've been destroying every facet of the asinine, lost & clueless cult of Christianity. All Christians are cowards that refuse to present the details of what they believe or get on a voice call, because they all desperately believe in the IMPOSSIBLE (e.g. talking snake, talking donkey, mutants with super strength from hair, summoning bears to attack kids, man living inside a fish) and what can't be SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME. Only ACTUAL NATURE CAN BE SCIENTIFICALLY DEMONSTRATED IN REAL TIME (e.g. evolution, chemical reactions that convert abiotic material to biotic molecules, the CMBR, etc).
@@brantsonoverton1367
" We call him “OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD "
You're just too stupid to be here...
“Try and learn” says the ex convict with the imaginary resume.
Hydrogen has no neutron. Deuterium has one proton and one neutron.
Deuterium is just the other stable isotope of hydrogen (the other one being hydrogen-1, protium or what we usually just call hydrogen. Hydrogen-2 is deuterium) with one neutron, one proton and one electron.
Atoms is a weird place to start though. What about the six quarks? Gluons? Muons and other leptons?
Gluons is such an exciting virtual particle in and of itself. It's basically magic when explained. They have no mass but make up one third of the mass of neutrons and protons through vibration. They pop into reality one by one, assemble in 8 "colours" and then pop right back out of reality just to be replaced, one by one.
Modern physics, man.... To a biochemist like me it's indistinguishable from getting super high and making shit up except that it's evidence based so it's real.
Cards do not work at all the same way the universe works.
you gott the timeless no movement to movement or 0 to 1 change all wrong, and the caller fanatics won the battle in their minds, and you guys won the click bait withc is worthless smooth move e-lax
ok if god created us in his image then why are humans so stupid then and only god is perfect wouldn't
we be perfect two just asking
Or, perhaps God does not exist. A point of zero importance.
Always fallacy from the very start. This time it’s the useless appeal to probability. WORTHLESS.
As it happens, Joseph was completely right. Except his A and B values were both... zero.
I just saw cotton growing from the ground.. if not God, who? Rite on time when the weather is starting to change... God, has it all thought out already you were seen doing it b4 you did it...
Or, that's just a natural process in action. If a "god" were responsible, would flowers bloom at exactly the same time, the same way every year? If not, why the differential? Why blossom near the beginning of a month one year, and blooming an entirely different month another year?
You saw cotton growing IN REAL TIME? 🤨I think you set a new World Record for going without sleep! Congratulations. 👍
Karen S, are you taking the piss?
@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 Poe's law?
_"if not God, who?"_
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, that's who.
So, what if the universe has been there forever, no beginning and no end?
What if it has?
@@nealjroberts4050 My point exactly, what was there before the Big Bang, what went bang, nothing? how did that happen
@@ranuiqh
The Big Bang is merely the expansion of already existing mass-energy (well technically these things called tensors or something but that's beside the point).
It's an expansion of an already existing something. There is no "nothing" involved.
@@ranuiqh The big bang isn't the origin of the universe, but an explanation of the current effect we see of an expanding universe.
Then there would be multiple possibilities of what was before the big bang. One of them is the big bounce theory, but there are many other possibilities. Scientists don't rule out that there was things before the big bang, but we have no way to know what it could have been
I believe God shows himself through math yes. In particular, the number Pi. Pi is an irrational number that never ends or repeats. It was discovered in ancient human history (in Archimedes’ time) and is coincidentally the result of dividing ANY circle’s circumference by its diameter.
Pi was created by God to showcase His perfect order
Wouldn't it be easier to show himself by just simply showing himself?
Or...
It's an excuse to justify the belief.
🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@canderson5098 foolish sinner
God demands faith at the end of the day
@@Blue-moon00that doesn't address my question at all. If I wanted to show myself to people I'd just do it, I wouldn't go through all this cryptic rigamarole. That's creepy.
I’m gonna play a game called Paper Mario today. Hope I still like it, haven’t played it since I was a kid.
I haven’t played any video games for a while in fact.
Just don't play any competitive online game, you'll just get shredded, or you'd get banned from flooding the chat with your usual unsolicited life comments.
@@AXKfUN9mnah I was a beast a COD way back when. This was black ops 2 era though.
@@Thunderbolt-9 I'm talking about chat, duh.
@@AXKfUN9mgotta do something to get my mind off this crippling loneliness
@@Thunderbolt-9 I have some life advice for you. If you can learn to enjoy your own company you might find that the women you want to meet might also enjoy your own company. To put that another way, the reasons you don't like being alone with yourself are probably the same reasons those women don't want to be alone with you.
We can’t see atoms or eves.😂 we go by our belief systems. Then! We have understandable science. Which can absolutely be proven. I believe Nothing I hear and half what I see. And I’ll keep the rest of my beliefs to myself 😂
I dont beleive in god and i fear death and want to be immortal ans i fear that i didnt rally humanity and push atheism enogun to make us bring about immortality
Math will make us believe 🤣 god have mercy onto those who suck at math, non believers😂
GLORY!!!'m favoured, $140K every 3weeks! And I am retired i can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America🇺🇸❤️
Not interested for your scam
🥱
Reported…
If there was no God we wouldn’t be here and neither would mathematics, nor anything for that matter.
But since there is God, we’re here with everything else in the world
And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass on the ground.
Yeah, if you are an uneducated bronze age sheepherder, that might even make sense.
Maybe.
Why are you so angry?
Stop denying His existence and find peace and salvation in the loving embrace of the one TRUE living God Tupã!
Find peace in the knowledge that Tupã's paradise will yours in the afterlife.
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@@albaniahenry-franklin2829denying his existence is easy with these terrible arguments being presented
@@Gumpmachine1
WHAT!?😳
Are you trying to say that no one has presented evidence of ANY kind...empirical demonstrable evidence supported by objectively verified facts of course being the best....sufficient to substantiate the claims/assertions of the existence of any deities...including my favorites😉...in our shared reality??
I’m beginning to watch this video. I believe that the lead cause of agnosticism or atheism are due to big mouth religious, cultisms. I’m me. I choose to keep my beliefs or my own non beliefs to myself. I will only give my sociable opinion, while I’m okay with being wrong with that. But, I can’t accept a person telling me what I should or should not believe in. I’ll keep that to myself
So I guess you are not voting or making any decisions that could Impact others, based in your beliefs...
Because that is what really matters.
And no, the reasons for atheism are diverse. I'm an atheist, because there is no sufficend evidence, for any god.
Keeping it to yourself is a great thing.
Will you also stand against the loudmouths trying to subvert politics in their favour?
I hear dreary theories from this caller, such as, all theories are dreary and lame.
Fibonacci kinda does suggest that math points to God, many sequences and patterns considered under a philosophical scope are akin to procedural generation in a digital world. If everything was Chaos then we wouldn't see such perfected interconnected mathematical algorithms.
From a spiral shell to a Galaxy we observe one of God's incredible mathematic insights.
You theists always put the cart before the horse.
"Fibonacci kinda does suggest that math points to God"
No it doesn't, in absolutly no way.
"many sequences and patterns considered under a philosophical scope are akin to procedural generation in a digital world."
This sentence is total gibberish.
@@AXKfUN9m You atheists always put irrelevant statements before reality to confuse yourselves more.
You already know God exists, The evidence is your every breath and you're so clouded in delusion you can't smell it.
That's the truth, That's why there are more theists than atheists and why we feel fulfilled in life and you feel infuriated by it. We connect to the creator and are rewarded. You seek to destroy the creator which is futile and self defeating. You have no hope or faith, no reason to live or love, You only exist to try to deny your reality through a false paradigm of physical proof = only reality.
@@vertigo4236 haha you just PROVED my reply to the last guy, The evidence stacks as atheists keep TRYING!
Design would follow a set of algorithms and patterns, it's a fact LOL
Even a TODDLER would presume design based on that evidence alone.
@@WriteTrax Whatever you're selling, I ain't buying. Whatever you're consuming, heck if I want it affecting my reasoning abilities.