@Augoeidez between I and thou, is the All. Forever. If I am only me, because you are you, and you are only you, because I am me. Then I am not me and you are not you.
I've made a playlist since after studying so many other people recently of your work so I can go over it, over and over. I listen to nearly every video currently at least once a day to keep my mind stimulated. Thanks for the content. I've wanted authentic Goldenn Dawn methods ever since I'd heard of the Order, and I refuse to join the Orto Templi Orientis.
@chocolatesugar4434 Because when I posted this comment I was extremely ignorant and unwilling to admit pleasure and sex have a realistic place in magic. Think of a Christian who is already having a hard time admitting he's a magician. I'm not at all against them now. I say my will is that of Thelema now.
I can't communicate enough how familiar all the things you are talking about sounds to me. I used to think that I was just a weirdo with strange ideas since my teenage years... I've always understood archetypes the way you describes them, and the use of these archetypes, crafting images or objects to encapsulate these archetypes, embodying archetypes to acces skills and knowledge.. i thought it was just my imagination or me doing weird things... not even talking about the sacrificial archetype stuff... of thinking of myself as a nobility... it's so weird to me. it sounds so pretentious or some cognitive bias... yet it's always been this way in my head
even the trick about focusing on the feet... whenever i wan't to go out or really be noticed, I "work" with my feet... i never tried to figure out if it worked but at least I always feel more confident this way...
I have over 20 years of actor training and experience. There is a technique called "sub personality work" adapted by Eric Morris from Hal and Sidra Stone's Voice Dialogue work. Voice Dialogue is a therapeutic process where you embody separate selves while an operator interviews you as those separate subpersonalites. In subpersonality work, we embody the subpersonality and let it take us over. I always thought this was similar to the assumption of God Forms. I feel like many skills of the magickal operator are suited to the actor. If you're really doing character work well, the character reveals itself to you. You still have to analyze the play, film etc, but at a certain point, the subconscious is revealing itself to you in every moment and building upon itself. As for certain postures to maintain to enter a Godform, there is a technique called psychological gesture developed by Michael Chekov. There's a lot of parallels actually. I'm surprised more actors aren't interested in magick.
Love all your videos Lyam, i've been watching them daily for a just over a week. I love your explainations, as someone who purchased the golden dawn textbook years ago you've inspired me to perform daily LIPR and LBRP. I'll be buying your book and can't wait to do the work you've formulated.
This currently seems to advanced for me, but it’s a good lesson to remember for the future. Domesticity is that one virtue I’ve always had trouble with. Thank you for this video.
The importance of “blowing off” the forms we entwine with is such an important skill for many instances in life. So often do we come into contact with things both consciously and habitually that may cause unfavourable effects due to not letting it go. Love the way you explained it in the book in regards to the aura being “divided against itself” & hearing more from your perspective really helps to elucidate the process more. Thanks!
In regards to taking up space as a sign of power, I think this because it demonstrates to others that you have nothing to hide. Your integrity is on the line, so to speak.
Lyam, amazing, invaluable content for us lone practitioners. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing this information. lucid and profound at the same time. Many thanks!
Hey Lyam, I’ve really been enjoying the videos you’ve been putting out. It’s refreshing to see someone who knows what they’re talking about on here, besides Frater Xavier and Damien Echols, most people just rehash the same nonsense. I especially liked your last couple videos as I found them to come from a place of knowledge and experience. Keep up the Great Work, and I’m eager to see what else you’ll be putting out here in the future!
This is very synchronistic. I used to do this as a kid when playing games or sports. I'd imagine that I was a famous person who was well known for doing whatever I was trying to do. I wouldn't suddenly be the best at what I was doing, but there was a noticable edge and I picked up on things faster. Godforms being part of the collective unconscious seems to explain why I was able to pick up on this when I was younger and had a more open mind. Thanks for posting this!
Great video! Just found your channel and I’m way at the beginning of this path. Id love to see a video on the Elements and Elemental Work. Edit: And Elemental rituals
The in-depth yet concise dive-in's into aspects of ceremonial magick in the golden dawn traditional milieu is enlightening! The course of Kabbalistic Magick is so essential! With the bolstering of these kindly generous videos, it's 📖 the missing link text to progressing in the field! I have not had until now encountered a teaching that doesn't simply assume knowledge what these terminologies are! It's normally, in my limited experience, just seemingly touched on briefly and moved on from...including the standard rituals! (From the, as yet, outside looking in) 🎉 🌌 🌟 💫 📖 10:15 even this kindly moment allows for creativity versus a decidely overly serious author's tome not being so keen on this in their supposed-to-be accessible (and free of accouterments and trappings, they're often proud to say) servitor creation book! 🎉
Bro this video made my morning I've had people looking at me because I paid attention to my feet most of the day it was werid and fun 😁 also I actually tried in the past with caution to assumed kali Ma's form as a experiment and the feeling was ecstasy and bliss and joyous so deep in it to the point of Kali ma was me and I actually use your tip of blowing out three times tho it was good i remember to break the trance because that feeling it lingered for a bit This channel is sooo interesting and practical
Almost all of those qualities needed for the assumption of godforms are developed simply from doing the grade work. Another great video filling in the gaps for me.
Thank you Lyam for posting these videos, they seem to have popped up at the right time. I've been hung up on the visualization part. In fact I've found it difficult to find anyone talking about even in a mundane sense.
Your idea melds really well with my desire to put the Golden Dawn Characters/Angels into cards which each would have an image representing a specific aspect of each character for a better mental collection of power to pull from.
@lyamchristopher2393 That took me a couple double takes... so what you're telling me is that reenacting the emotions and attitudes of my favorite characters and influences is the same concept as a supposed ancient terrible grimoire if the results are the same?
No. A true grimoire is one that you make for yourself, based on the magical contacts that YOU have made. Other people can try to use it, but they don't have the same exact karma that you do, so it will not likely function well for them. Each magical contact is a traumatic scenario that wants to play itself out so that you can make meaning from it and either (1) lay it to rest or (2) befriend it as a helpful, natural impulse. The names and images that you use to call it forth are, more than likely, unique to you. @@dustinemerzian5989
@lyamchristopher2393 thank you for the comprehensive explanation. I'm a neophyte and not afraid to admit that. I'm really getting into your books work now and it's daunting to say the least. However, from a just reading standpoint, it's an enjoyable book.
I am ASSUMING this is one of the reasons why you recommended the alexander technique since many actors have put it into practice. Not really an assumption just being silly lol
This talk of releasing godforms makes me think of the descent from the cube of space in the curriculum. Would you talk more about the cube of space in a future video?
Heath Ledger forgot to blow off the trickster god form it seems. Never seen anything like what he did,he truly was embodying something and it got him in the end
The utilitarian arts start with the agent and flow out into the world. The liberal arts start with the agent and flow back into the agent, perfecting them. Sister Joseph in her famous book The Trivium compares the self-perfecting effect of the liberal arts to a rose blooming.
I’ve been going through the course of Self Initiation from the Cicero’s book but have been wanting to get into yours as I resonate more with it. I started the Neophyte Grade and previously when I was doing SI I was on Zelator. I know you’ve mentioned not stopping once the Elemental Grades start, so I’m wondering if I should finish the course I was already doing before starting yours or if it would be fine to start yours since they are both GD Initiations? Thanks in advance!
Hey, great video! Can you explain more about invoking James Bond? I know a little of the chaos magick practice of incorporating fictional beings in magick, but would love if you could explain more about invoking James Bond in especific (or any related bibliographic material). Thank you
For this, I would recommend the article "How to Project Power." There are some more gems there about Bond and the use of the voice. medium.com/forbidden-realms/how-to-project-power-3a4c76e88214 You might also look into the concepts of archetypal gestures and psychological gestures (from method acting).
Lyam what's your perspective on magick? Do you believe that spirits are actual external entities, people are able to move objects via their force of Chi, psychic abilities etc?
Hi Lyam, what is the difference between deities, archetypes, and egregores? Are archetypes merely creations of collective thought, or are they forms that exist independently of humans?
Haha. People who know me know that I tend to roll my eyes whenever the word "egregore" comes up. That automatic snooty reaction disqualifies me from talking about it. 🤣 What do you think the differences are?
@@lyamchristopher2393 I have a theory 🙂. I think deities are egregores, but ones created based on archetypal qualities-meaning that people personalized the archetypes, forming an egregore to make it easier to connect with the archetype. I also believe that every nation, sports team, corporation, etc., is under the influence of an egregore. These egregores often limit the members who belong to them by imposing beliefs, attitudes, and so on, that they are expected to follow. Because of this, individuals can become hypnotized by different ideologies, losing their individuality and reason. However, when egregores are founded on healthy and universal principles and aligned with archetypal truth, they can be beneficial for their members, enabling growth and progress. I’d really love to hear your opinion on egregores. What do you think of this idea? Don’t be too harsh; this is just my idea, and it’s still in the process of developing 😁
@@miloskovacevic4117 Yes, I pretty much said as much in my talk about planetary gods. It is difficult for me to describe an egregore as a good thing. When people use the word, I often see it as a place where they seek to hide. What are they hiding from? From waking up, of course. Is the rhythm of the ocean's tides a good thing. When it lifts your ship high enough so that you can enter or exit a port city, we might say it's good. When we are swimming and it creates a riptide, we might then say something else. What is it that Hector says to Paris in the movie *Troy*? "Sometimes the gods bless you in the morning and curse you in the afternoon." An archetype is not really "good." It is ALSO a karmic force. Every "thing" that arises in perception is. I think you may have nailed it with the reference to hypnosis. And this is why all of the gods are seen as bowing down to the Buddha. That gesture has nothing to do with his superiority. It's simply a reference to his complete freedom from hypnosis, showing that all of the gods have something to learn from that. You may begin to notice that I'm kind of a "one-trick pony" on this channel. Constantly talking about the same thing: waking up from the sleep of gods.
This may not fit into the the practice of magick, but coming from a Christian background: Does this mental / physical embodiment of qualify as a “false idol”? I just feel as if embodying Jesus 24/7, while honorable, is not conducive to financial success. Perhaps the workaround is to “layer” embodiments? (Integrate) I.e - Jesus + Thoth I may be arriving at the answer but getting ahead of myself. Either way, any insight would be appreciated. Thank you
Among initiates, idolatry is much simpler concept than religious fundamentalists make it out to be. It simply refers to the attempt to derive ultimate satisfaction from a thing. Any THING at all. When we rely on a thing as a substitute for our groundedness in "non-being," we commit idolatry. And of course, God is not a thing. Therefore, God is the only "thing" (not really a thing, of course) worthy of the word "ultimate."
You’d have to seek within your own psyche whatever God form best speaks to the divine and just apply when creating. Make a Pinterest board, collage images of God forms that speak to you, maybe in the series of images an idea will arise for which form to channel.
Filling out "godforms" reminds me of the "insight roles" spoken about by the order of nine angles. Where you adopt some alien lifestyle such as joining a terrorist organization for a period of time before leaving it. Or perhaps what SS soldiers were forced to do with German shepherd puppies. Idk
I'll tell you the way I did it. Back in the 1980s, I subscribed to two or three New Age magazines (back when magazines still existed 😉). There were some ads in them. A few ads involved various temples revealing that they were accepting students. I regarded the ads as though they were tarot cards, and I settled for one that was not really about recruiting new members. It was advertising its own publication (which no longer exists, but at the time, it was named _The Portal_). The ad also happened to mention that a graded curriculum was available. Inquiring about the the curriculum led to me receiving an application for membership in the mail. All every mysterious. I applied, took a quiz, and was accepted into Ra Horakhty Temple. Students paid quarterly dues, and in exchange, we entered a correspondence course in which they were in touch with a temple advisor. Over the years, I attended several temple retreats, received my 0=0 initiation, and completed the Outer Order work. The whole process, as far as I can tell, was dependent on one main person who served as the guiding light of the temple. Without her, the temple would have been just any other feel-good cult. With her at the helm, it became a school of enlightenment. As far as I know, Ra Horakhty temple is no longer public, or it has disappeared, and its teacher has died. However, her legacy continues on (so to speak) in a scattering of her students. I am no longer in touch with any of my "classmates." That might change soon, I think, because of this naughty RUclips channel. 🤭
@@lyamchristopher2393 ty so much for the response! I’ve been trying to learn on my own and experiencing some things you said would happen when beginning the LBRP for example. I found you recommended by Frater X from Mind and Magick (RUclips) and ordered your book. Looking forward to working through that. All I have so far is a book by Damien Echols walking me through a couple rituals but I’m just now learning about god forms. I’ve been doing it without knowing what I was doing and it was consuming me so I think it wise to follow and learn for much appreciated guidance. I feel I’ve learned a bit from the Ra Contact (Law of One) books whether they are factual or not. I’m sure these are basic to you but I’ve just began a couple years ago Ty ty ty 🙏
It's important that we avoid defining the universe as governed by angels that are going to come rescue us and set us free. We are not in a jail cell on death row. It only appears that way. A system of magic that defines angels that way will, more than likely, reinforce the feeling of being trapped and doomed.
Damien does get into how “for every angel there’s a demon” and has a preference for I guess Jewish mysticism. Invoking the 72 angels of the Shem Ha Phoresh, teaching the LBRP and the Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram on his Patreon/YT, explaining how demons used to be djinn etc. It’s not just archangel work, but he himself has stated that he’s grown less interested in teaching magick. He had to learn ritual to save his life, make miracles (as miracles should happen) and be essentially the first before you to at least open the door a crack! At face value he might seem like he’s only been able to teach basic magick on a rudimentary level but he’s covered a lot of ground! He might not be devoted to the craft as much to truly commit to teaching it as his energy is flowing towards his other passion (martial arts) but at least now the world has you to take that baton.
Use Saturn for a cleaning day , discipline work - even on ourselves, Saturdays I do a complete body groom maintaining trim I g nails and eye brows all the works . I complete like cleaning the oven and making sure supplies are stocked and soap containers, salts are all full for the next week . .. situations should improve .
@themoonisalwaysfull6480 I have Saturn in 12th house, a Capricorn Stellium, Sun in a different sign, meanwhile Jupiter and Mars are retrograde. Meaning my natal chart has 3x the Saturn.
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Literally the second I sober up from shrooms you upload... thank you good sir!
Wait... you guys are sobering up? 👹
@@VIAOV Mushrooms saved me from myself... they continue to do so.
@@dustinemerzian5989 haha you have the same first name as me and the same initials blood
@Augoeidez between I and thou, is the All. Forever. If I am only me, because you are you, and you are only you, because I am me. Then I am not me and you are not you.
@@dustinemerzian5989 i am the glintch i mean grintch and stole cristmes
Great video, thanks for the insight! For the Domesticity virtue I like to use Mary Poppins especially when it’s my turn to cook, works a treat :)
I've made a playlist since after studying so many other people recently of your work so I can go over it, over and over. I listen to nearly every video currently at least once a day to keep my mind stimulated. Thanks for the content. I've wanted authentic Goldenn Dawn methods ever since I'd heard of the Order, and I refuse to join the Orto Templi Orientis.
Why do you refuse to join? Honestly curious 😌
@chocolatesugar4434 Because when I posted this comment I was extremely ignorant and unwilling to admit pleasure and sex have a realistic place in magic. Think of a Christian who is already having a hard time admitting he's a magician. I'm not at all against them now. I say my will is that of Thelema now.
I can't communicate enough how familiar all the things you are talking about sounds to me. I used to think that I was just a weirdo with strange ideas since my teenage years... I've always understood archetypes the way you describes them, and the use of these archetypes, crafting images or objects to encapsulate these archetypes, embodying archetypes to acces skills and knowledge.. i thought it was just my imagination or me doing weird things... not even talking about the sacrificial archetype stuff... of thinking of myself as a nobility... it's so weird to me. it sounds so pretentious or some cognitive bias... yet it's always been this way in my head
even the trick about focusing on the feet... whenever i wan't to go out or really be noticed, I "work" with my feet... i never tried to figure out if it worked but at least I always feel more confident this way...
before finding your channel, I had the word "MAGUS" coming up in my thoutghs ...
I have over 20 years of actor training and experience. There is a technique called "sub personality work" adapted by Eric Morris from Hal and Sidra Stone's Voice Dialogue work. Voice Dialogue is a therapeutic process where you embody separate selves while an operator interviews you as those separate subpersonalites. In subpersonality work, we embody the subpersonality and let it take us over. I always thought this was similar to the assumption of God Forms. I feel like many skills of the magickal operator are suited to the actor. If you're really doing character work well, the character reveals itself to you. You still have to analyze the play, film etc, but at a certain point, the subconscious is revealing itself to you in every moment and building upon itself. As for certain postures to maintain to enter a Godform, there is a technique called psychological gesture developed by Michael Chekov. There's a lot of parallels actually. I'm surprised more actors aren't interested in magick.
Thanks for the tips! 💛 Just looked at the concepts of archetypal gesture and psychological gesture. Great stuff.
Love all your videos Lyam, i've been watching them daily for a just over a week. I love your explainations, as someone who purchased the golden dawn textbook years ago you've inspired me to perform daily LIPR and LBRP. I'll be buying your book and can't wait to do the work you've formulated.
Good one! Hoping to hear more about the karma projecting that you briefly mentioned people are apt to do a couple videos ago.
This was useful today, popped up at the right time of course
This currently seems to advanced for me, but it’s a good lesson to remember for the future. Domesticity is that one virtue I’ve always had trouble with. Thank you for this video.
The importance of “blowing off” the forms we entwine with is such an important skill for many instances in life. So often do we come into contact with things both consciously and habitually that may cause unfavourable effects due to not letting it go. Love the way you explained it in the book in regards to the aura being “divided against itself” & hearing more from your perspective really helps to elucidate the process more. Thanks!
amazing work Mr. Christopher
In regards to taking up space as a sign of power, I think this because it demonstrates to others that you have nothing to hide. Your integrity is on the line, so to speak.
Lyam, amazing, invaluable content for us lone practitioners. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing this information. lucid and profound at the same time. Many thanks!
Hey Lyam, I’ve really been enjoying the videos you’ve been putting out. It’s refreshing to see someone who knows what they’re talking about on here, besides Frater Xavier and Damien Echols, most people just rehash the same nonsense. I especially liked your last couple videos as I found them to come from a place of knowledge and experience. Keep up the Great Work, and I’m eager to see what else you’ll be putting out here in the future!
This is very synchronistic. I used to do this as a kid when playing games or sports. I'd imagine that I was a famous person who was well known for doing whatever I was trying to do. I wouldn't suddenly be the best at what I was doing, but there was a noticable edge and I picked up on things faster. Godforms being part of the collective unconscious seems to explain why I was able to pick up on this when I was younger and had a more open mind. Thanks for posting this!
Great video! Just found your channel and I’m way at the beginning of this path. Id love to see a video on the Elements and Elemental Work.
Edit:
And Elemental rituals
The in-depth yet concise dive-in's into aspects of ceremonial magick in the golden dawn traditional milieu is enlightening! The course of Kabbalistic Magick is so essential! With the bolstering of these kindly generous videos, it's 📖 the missing link text to progressing in the field! I have not had until now encountered a teaching that doesn't simply assume knowledge what these terminologies are! It's normally, in my limited experience, just seemingly touched on briefly and moved on from...including the standard rituals! (From the, as yet, outside looking in) 🎉 🌌 🌟 💫 📖 10:15 even this kindly moment allows for creativity versus a decidely overly serious author's tome not being so keen on this in their supposed-to-be accessible (and free of accouterments and trappings, they're often proud to say) servitor creation book! 🎉
Bro this video made my morning I've had people looking at me because I paid attention to my feet most of the day it was werid and fun 😁 also I actually tried in the past with caution to assumed kali Ma's form as a experiment and the feeling was ecstasy and bliss and joyous so deep in it to the point of Kali ma was me and I actually use your tip of blowing out three times tho it was good i remember to break the trance because that feeling it lingered for a bit
This channel is sooo interesting and practical
Cunning is a interesting thing... it makes me think of loki? Set from Egypt
Almost all of those qualities needed for the assumption of godforms are developed simply from doing the grade work. Another great video filling in the gaps for me.
thank you
Thank you Lyam for posting these videos, they seem to have popped up at the right time. I've been hung up on the visualization part. In fact I've found it difficult to find anyone talking about even in a mundane sense.
Could you clarify what you're referring to in the last two sentences?
9:30 You might like a film called ‘The Creator’ (2023).
Your idea melds really well with my desire to put the Golden Dawn Characters/Angels into cards which each would have an image representing a specific aspect of each character for a better mental collection of power to pull from.
😎 And now we know what a true grimoire is. ☺️
@lyamchristopher2393 That took me a couple double takes... so what you're telling me is that reenacting the emotions and attitudes of my favorite characters and influences is the same concept as a supposed ancient terrible grimoire if the results are the same?
No. A true grimoire is one that you make for yourself, based on the magical contacts that YOU have made. Other people can try to use it, but they don't have the same exact karma that you do, so it will not likely function well for them. Each magical contact is a traumatic scenario that wants to play itself out so that you can make meaning from it and either (1) lay it to rest or (2) befriend it as a helpful, natural impulse. The names and images that you use to call it forth are, more than likely, unique to you. @@dustinemerzian5989
@lyamchristopher2393 thank you for the comprehensive explanation. I'm a neophyte and not afraid to admit that. I'm really getting into your books work now and it's daunting to say the least. However, from a just reading standpoint, it's an enjoyable book.
Excellent questions. I'll be talking about karma, next. @@Id_rathernot
I am ASSUMING this is one of the reasons why you recommended the alexander technique since many actors have put it into practice. Not really an assumption just being silly lol
I love your videos brother 🖤☯️🤍
Thank you :)
This talk of releasing godforms makes me think of the descent from the cube of space in the curriculum. Would you talk more about the cube of space in a future video?
Yep. The next video is about that--or rather, it includes the truncated-pyramid visualization, which involves the same principle.
Great content
Heath Ledger forgot to blow off the trickster god form it seems.
Never seen anything like what he did,he truly was embodying something and it got him in the end
One has to wonder.
The utilitarian arts start with the agent and flow out into the world. The liberal arts start with the agent and flow back into the agent, perfecting them. Sister Joseph in her famous book The Trivium compares the self-perfecting effect of the liberal arts to a rose blooming.
Amazing idea!
I’ve been going through the course of Self Initiation from the Cicero’s book but have been wanting to get into yours as I resonate more with it. I started the Neophyte Grade and previously when I was doing SI I was on Zelator. I know you’ve mentioned not stopping once the Elemental Grades start, so I’m wondering if I should finish the course I was already doing before starting yours or if it would be fine to start yours since they are both GD Initiations? Thanks in advance!
Why not start the Kabbalah Magic book at Zelator?
Hey, great video! Can you explain more about invoking James Bond?
I know a little of the chaos magick practice of incorporating fictional beings in magick, but would love if you could explain more about invoking James Bond in especific (or any related bibliographic material).
Thank you
For this, I would recommend the article "How to Project Power." There are some more gems there about Bond and the use of the voice. medium.com/forbidden-realms/how-to-project-power-3a4c76e88214
You might also look into the concepts of archetypal gestures and psychological gestures (from method acting).
@@lyamchristopher2393 thank you, mate. I'm going to check it out. Keep doing the good work!
Lyam what's your perspective on magick? Do you believe that spirits are actual external entities, people are able to move objects via their force of Chi, psychic abilities etc?
Hi Lyam, what is the difference between deities, archetypes, and egregores? Are archetypes merely creations of collective thought, or are they forms that exist independently of humans?
Haha. People who know me know that I tend to roll my eyes whenever the word "egregore" comes up. That automatic snooty reaction disqualifies me from talking about it. 🤣 What do you think the differences are?
@@lyamchristopher2393 I have a theory 🙂. I think deities are egregores, but ones created based on archetypal qualities-meaning that people personalized the archetypes, forming an egregore to make it easier to connect with the archetype. I also believe that every nation, sports team, corporation, etc., is under the influence of an egregore. These egregores often limit the members who belong to them by imposing beliefs, attitudes, and so on, that they are expected to follow. Because of this, individuals can become hypnotized by different ideologies, losing their individuality and reason. However, when egregores are founded on healthy and universal principles and aligned with archetypal truth, they can be beneficial for their members, enabling growth and progress. I’d really love to hear your opinion on egregores. What do you think of this idea? Don’t be too harsh; this is just my idea, and it’s still in the process of developing 😁
@@miloskovacevic4117 Yes, I pretty much said as much in my talk about planetary gods.
It is difficult for me to describe an egregore as a good thing. When people use the word, I often see it as a place where they seek to hide. What are they hiding from? From waking up, of course.
Is the rhythm of the ocean's tides a good thing. When it lifts your ship high enough so that you can enter or exit a port city, we might say it's good. When we are swimming and it creates a riptide, we might then say something else. What is it that Hector says to Paris in the movie *Troy*? "Sometimes the gods bless you in the morning and curse you in the afternoon."
An archetype is not really "good." It is ALSO a karmic force. Every "thing" that arises in perception is. I think you may have nailed it with the reference to hypnosis. And this is why all of the gods are seen as bowing down to the Buddha. That gesture has nothing to do with his superiority. It's simply a reference to his complete freedom from hypnosis, showing that all of the gods have something to learn from that.
You may begin to notice that I'm kind of a "one-trick pony" on this channel. Constantly talking about the same thing: waking up from the sleep of gods.
This may not fit into the the practice of magick, but coming from a Christian background:
Does this mental / physical embodiment of qualify as a “false idol”?
I just feel as if embodying Jesus 24/7, while honorable, is not conducive to financial success.
Perhaps the workaround is to “layer” embodiments? (Integrate)
I.e - Jesus + Thoth
I may be arriving at the answer but getting ahead of myself.
Either way, any insight would be appreciated.
Thank you
Among initiates, idolatry is much simpler concept than religious fundamentalists make it out to be. It simply refers to the attempt to derive ultimate satisfaction from a thing. Any THING at all. When we rely on a thing as a substitute for our groundedness in "non-being," we commit idolatry. And of course, God is not a thing. Therefore, God is the only "thing" (not really a thing, of course) worthy of the word "ultimate."
does anybody has a suggestion for a visual arts god form? for mastering painting and drawing?
Thoth and Anael/Haniel? Perhaps planetary intelligences might help? It's certainly an artwork in selection...
Plenty of images on Google to print off, copy, draw from.
You’d have to seek within your own psyche whatever God form best speaks to the divine and just apply when creating. Make a Pinterest board, collage images of God forms that speak to you, maybe in the series of images an idea will arise for which form to channel.
@gumnutbarbie thank you , ill try doing that
Filling out "godforms" reminds me of the "insight roles" spoken about by the order of nine angles. Where you adopt some alien lifestyle such as joining a terrorist organization for a period of time before leaving it. Or perhaps what SS soldiers were forced to do with German shepherd puppies. Idk
How can a man join an actual order?
I'll tell you the way I did it. Back in the 1980s, I subscribed to two or three New Age magazines (back when magazines still existed 😉). There were some ads in them. A few ads involved various temples revealing that they were accepting students.
I regarded the ads as though they were tarot cards, and I settled for one that was not really about recruiting new members. It was advertising its own publication (which no longer exists, but at the time, it was named _The Portal_). The ad also happened to mention that a graded curriculum was available. Inquiring about the the curriculum led to me receiving an application for membership in the mail. All every mysterious. I applied, took a quiz, and was accepted into Ra Horakhty Temple. Students paid quarterly dues, and in exchange, we entered a correspondence course in which they were in touch with a temple advisor. Over the years, I attended several temple retreats, received my 0=0 initiation, and completed the Outer Order work.
The whole process, as far as I can tell, was dependent on one main person who served as the guiding light of the temple. Without her, the temple would have been just any other feel-good cult. With her at the helm, it became a school of enlightenment.
As far as I know, Ra Horakhty temple is no longer public, or it has disappeared, and its teacher has died. However, her legacy continues on (so to speak) in a scattering of her students. I am no longer in touch with any of my "classmates." That might change soon, I think, because of this naughty RUclips channel. 🤭
@@lyamchristopher2393 ty so much for the response! I’ve been trying to learn on my own and experiencing some things you said would happen when beginning the LBRP for example. I found you recommended by Frater X from Mind and Magick (RUclips) and ordered your book. Looking forward to working through that. All I have so far is a book by Damien Echols walking me through a couple rituals but I’m just now learning about god forms. I’ve been doing it without knowing what I was doing and it was consuming me so I think it wise to follow and learn for much appreciated guidance. I feel I’ve learned a bit from the Ra Contact (Law of One) books whether they are factual or not. I’m sure these are basic to you but I’ve just began a couple years ago Ty ty ty 🙏
It's important that we avoid defining the universe as governed by angels that are going to come rescue us and set us free. We are not in a jail cell on death row. It only appears that way. A system of magic that defines angels that way will, more than likely, reinforce the feeling of being trapped and doomed.
Damien does get into how “for every angel there’s a demon” and has a preference for I guess Jewish mysticism. Invoking the 72 angels of the Shem Ha Phoresh, teaching the LBRP and the Lesser Ritual of the Hexagram on his Patreon/YT, explaining how demons used to be djinn etc. It’s not just archangel work, but he himself has stated that he’s grown less interested in teaching magick. He had to learn ritual to save his life, make miracles (as miracles should happen) and be essentially the first before you to at least open the door a crack! At face value he might seem like he’s only been able to teach basic magick on a rudimentary level but he’s covered a lot of ground! He might not be devoted to the craft as much to truly commit to teaching it as his energy is flowing towards his other passion (martial arts) but at least now the world has you to take that baton.
To me Saturn is not Austerity, but unecessary setbacks and delays.
Use Saturn for a cleaning day , discipline work - even on ourselves, Saturdays I do a complete body groom maintaining trim I g nails and eye brows all the works . I complete like cleaning the oven and making sure supplies are stocked and soap containers, salts are all full for the next week . .. situations should improve .
@themoonisalwaysfull6480 I have Saturn in 12th house, a Capricorn Stellium, Sun in a different sign, meanwhile Jupiter and Mars are retrograde. Meaning my natal chart has 3x the Saturn.
@@Adam.Reader14 yep I’m Aquarius … just gotta work around Saturn’s tightness …
@@themoonisalwaysfull6480 Just gotta perform Saturn Banishment on the daily.
You don't "use" Saturn. You don't use any god or planet. The user IS the used. @@themoonisalwaysfull6480