Football Ideologies: GERMANY
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- As part of our special series on football ideologies, culture and tactics in the European Cup and UEFA Champions League, we sit down with journalist Raphael Honigstein and hear from some of the biggest names in German club football.
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I love how so many different teams, different nations, different tactics got to dominate European football in different eras. The British, the Dutch, the Spanish, the Germans, the Portuguese, the Italians etc. All have their own eras of domination
The British ? you mean England ? .
@@stironeceno They become British in Olympics and other international events, but England in football and cricket, they are weird.
@@f1aziz I would settle for big time losers in football .
@@stironeceno Many of the dominant English teams had Scottish managers. There is a lot of crossover.
@@justsomeguy6203 NATIONAL team . We talking about the NATIONAL team . get it ?
As a chelsea fan I am see the German tactic in our team. Solid pressing and high energy counter attack
And now they won the championsleague....what a turnaround
@@antigamer1833 jurgen klopp(2018-19),hansi flick(2019-20),thomas tuchel(2020-21)in every team there was a german coach. German coaches have won hattrick ucl.
Yeah but why did they have to interview Rangnick in a bathroom?
He was escaping his marker
@@masterpeace7722 lmao
It’s a changing room in low division football. easy to clean 🧼
Yes, the most interisting in German Footbal "The Coach".
@@Kalid__ Nobody cares what happening in Qatar.
It's clear to say we in the era of German tactics... Chelsea fans must be happy
Wir haben echt verdammt gute Trainer. Da wird sich doch bestimmt jemand für den Nationalposten finden.
Da gibts mehr als genug fähige Kandidaten aber solange der Nationalpfosten noch den Nationalposten besetzt wird sich da nix tun.
So wies seit heute aussieht könnte es flick werden
I love German football ⚽️
I love German football. To me it has always been the best and most efficient way of playing.
Mia San Mia
This is dying now as Germany is now full of Turks and Africans.
@@mariobasler3221 pls just stfu
@@mariobasler3221 yes that never say die Attitude of German football team is gone...
@@mariobasler3221 yeah and France team is full of africans , france is literally africa 2.0
The mad scientists of football.
In Germany they call that industry 😂😂
💩💩💩😆😆😆😆😆
Germany can't even beat the drug lord Mexico
@@momokaka7248 they sniff mexico for breakfast
in Industry they call that germany 😂😂
@@momokaka7248 it was a joke about german engineering why are you so salty.. and i come from a country that hasnt even qualified for a wc
My first thought bout german football:
Goalkeepers
Kahn, Neuer, Maier, Ter Stegen, Trautmann, Schumacher, Klos, Lehmann, Stein, Aumann, Weidenfeller, Butt, Immel, Turek,
and of course Karius
Leno and trapp
Rangnick for Bundestrainer!
Damit würde der DFB sich noch unbeliebter machen, von daher: Gerne.
Realistisch betrachtet: Rangnick braucht, wenn er überhaupt wieder trainieren will, viel Zeit, Geld und Energie, um seine Mannschaft nach seinen Vorstellungen zu formen. Das hat er im Tagesgeschäft bei einem großen oder reichen Verein, nicht aber bei einer Nationalmannschaft - dafür ist die Nationalmannschaft zu selten zusammen.
@@refragerator Rangnick braucht nicht viel Geld
Rangnick als Bundestrainer wäre vielleicht das Beste, was Deutschland passieren könnte (wenn es nicht Flick wird, was ich nicht glaube) ... am aller liebsten wäre mir ein Trainer/Manager-Duo mit Rangnick/Sammer. Dann, glaube ich, könnte Deutschland ähnlich dominant auftreten über Jahre hinweg, im Männerfussball, als auch in den Juniorenteams und der Juniorenentwicklung. (Ob die beiden harmonieren, ist natürlich fraglich)
Zurück zu "nur" Rangnick. Ein Trainer wie er braucht gewisse Macht, Freiraum, "mehr Rechte" als vielleicht ein anderer Trainer. Was diesem aber im Wege steht (und meiner Meinung auch was Deutschland's Zukunft) gefährdet, ist Bierhoff als jetziger Manager, denn ich denke nicht, dass Bierhoff freiwillig ein-zwei Schritte rückwärts gehen wird, um Rangnick mehr Freiheiten zu geben.
@@herrpes2742 Do you mean Rangnick can use the cheapest players to make a great team ?
@@Traveltheworld1818. Man literally bring Hoffenheim from 3 division to Bundesliga
The best football on the World
No cap
2ND Best
@@subconscious.com_usa6691 after what? brazil?
@@spooked2104 Yes
@@subconscious.com_usa6691 uhm homie...
You missed: FC Magdeburg wons 1974 the European Cup "Pokal Der Pokalsieger"
But they played in the DDR (GDR), which means that they weren't in the same country at this time and had nothing to do with the progress in the BRD
@@ickehassler5393 ja wir wollen mal keine erbsen zählen. theoretisch war das ein anderes land. praktisch waren es einfach nur "andere" deutsche. auch wenn man immer noch gern den unterschied zwischen ost und west hervorheben möchte ist das eigentlich quatsch.
@@Ni1996Ki Ich meine ja nur, dass der FC Magdeburg wohl oder übel getrennt von den anderen Vereinen, die hier aufgelistet würden, arbeiten musste. Ich bin jetzt auch kein Fan davon 2021 noch in Ost und West zu unterteilen aber 1974 gab es halt keinerlei Verbindung zwischen Magdeburg und z.B. Gladbach
Apart from Bayern - clubs located in what is defined today as Germany perform badly in what is defined as European competition.
Look at the trophies.
The GDR won Olympia too in 1976, Silver in 1972
Germans were playing high defence line pressing football till 2014 WC but at the WC they took the world by surprise with new footballing philosophy and introduced sweeper-keeper to high defence line masterstroke
OMG THANK YOU FINALLY
watching these makes me wanna be a coach
hansi flick was assistant coach in the 2014 world championship, after that he was sports director at DFB till 2017. then he left for hoffenheim and everything at DFB went down the shitter. coincidence? probably not entirely.
Und woher kennt Thomas Anders sich so aus?
I'm back after Tuchel won with Chelsea.
Where's explanation about Manuel Neuer role, sweeper keeper?
whether you a fan of buffon or iker, neuer has changed the definition and style of goalkeeping,and no way we could deny that.
@@niggin9271 that's exactly my point. Neuer has became an important part of German football ideology.
tbf though, Germany always had great goalkeepers. Neuer, ter Stegen, Kahn, Lehmann, Schumacher, Ilgner, Mayer, Turek etc...
Warum ist dieser Kommentarbereich noch nicht Teil der Bundesrepublik Deutschland?
Kameraden, übernimmt!
Weil der scheiss nicht mehr witzig ist
Übernehmt* wenn überhaupt
Chill
Germans are the best footballer ! They know how to fight together
They almost defeated the whole world together,so yeah
In simple terms the 4 goal drubbing they gave England and Argentina in the 2010 world cup amplifies German football
Then got outplayed by Spain in semifinals. Not by scoreline, but by the gameplay - couldnt keep with the tikki taka gameplay at all
@@MrKaravaj but that tiki taka got banged by bayern 3 years later
2nd best nation behind Brazil but you cant ignore that 5 to 1 humiliation by England
Lampard's Goal at 2-1 didn't count despite crossing the line this would have left the score at 2-2 at half-time with England having the momentum, just saying.
@@MrKaravaj Outplayed by Spain?! You watched a different game I suppose.
I always thought it wad obvious that strategy/ intelligence should be the main aspect of the game, yet never saw particular interest in that idea; it was buffling; until I watched germany;they are also big and strong and seem to be trained to the 100%; intelligence + physicality will always beat "nice pretty play", is obvious; with that being said, I think you can ALSO develop nice play with very specific repetitive drills of specific techniques, which is something I still don't see any team doing;
Jupp Heynckes 🇩🇪 ralf rangnick 🇩🇪 hans dieter flick 🇩🇪, Jurgen Klopp 🇩🇪, Julian nagelsmann 🇩🇪 Marco rose 🇩🇪, Frank Bernhardt 🇩🇪, Thomas tuchel 🇩🇪, thorsten fink 🇩🇪 roger 🇩🇪, Jurgen klismanm 🇩🇪, karl Heinz Weigang 🇩🇪
Gott, in einer anderen Welt würde Ralf Ragnick zurück nach Schalke und sie aus der Hölle ziehen. Wenn nur... wenn nur 😞
😪
warum hat sich schalke eigentlich damals von rangnick getrennt?
@@hakan3217 Man hatte seine Packung Gummibärchen leer gegessen was an sich ja nicht so schlimm ist, aber als Ralf dann gefragt hatte wer denn seine Gummibärchen gegessen hatte, hatte niemand geantwortet. Daraufhin entschied er sich zu gehen.
@@hakan3217 Er hatte einen Burnout.
i hope Ralf Rangnick takes over from Jogi Löw after the Euro 2021
Never no dude what happens at tournaments Germany might win the euro 2021
@@BhagyanagarRE nahhhhh, this guy had a golden generation and only won one wc, we could have an crazy era of dominance, if not for this overthinking and not determined enough dude.
German bundesliga and serie a the only top league whose teams average play attacking beautiful, fast football, la liga and premier league become slower and boring with possesion and lack dangerous goal chance
That's why when pep Guardiola arrived at Bayern not everyone was happy with his playing style though results were good but still it was very boring.
Serie a and the Bundesliga good football, Leicester won the league with 5000-1 odds, I missed when SPAL or Union Berlin did that a few years ago.
good football is not just style but unpredictability, You can't have a team has dominant as Bayern, PSG or Juventus and call it a good league.
@@christiangermaine2396 Something like that happens once every few decades, no matter the league. It's not like clubs fighting relegation, win the championship on such frequent occasions, or else it wouldn't be such a big deal.
In 98' newly promoted Kaiserslautern won the Bundesliga, same story. In 07' Stuttgart won. In 2010/11 Dortmund won and so on.
The problem with Germany now is that the high defensive line and overloading the midfield tactic is outdated. I feel like Germany can be an excellent counter attacking team if they sit back on mid to low block. Germans love size and physicality. However, what happens when there big players move too much up front? They get counter hard.
Three German coaches in a row if Chelsea wins this year's CL
Oops
3:21 What is this music, its incredible
sounds like synthwave
Its
Michael Wendler - Egal
@@mr.etepetete9578 thanks
@@mr.etepetete9578 🤣🤣🤣
xd
Brazil ideologies please
The Brazil of the past .not any longer .
Easy: Nobody want's to be the goalkeeper and everyone tries to score a goal, no matter of their position when they try...and many of them have a lot of talent.
@@blitzpixgarage3319 nice one but it's literally true
Im german, why am I reading the fucking subtitles
germany the second most sucessfull national team
Not against the Italian National team .
Actually the most succesfull nation (if we count the women too). ;)
But lets be honest, no one cares about that. :D
@@stironeceno Who cares. The Italians have won nothing recently and germany everything. Soooo what? xD
And Italian football is really bad anyway and no one in europe cares about... Do you even have any coaches right now that are worth mentioning? Let me think..... oh no you havent xD
@@randomdude8877 , I'm talking about National team's games between Germany and Italy .got it ? . Nothing to do with clubs teams loaded with International players , you know like most European teams do .
Germany is lightyears ahead of italy
My Request for a combination and a mixture of the playing style in German among the others :
GEGENPRESS + BLITZKRIEG
Formation :
4-4-2 NARROW DIAMOND
4-4-2 WIDE DIAMOND
4-4-2 DIAMOND
4-4-2 CLASSIC
4-4-2( 2 WING MIDFIELDER)
4-4-1-1(2 WING MIDFIELDER, 1 AMF, 1 STRIKER)
4-2-4( 2 WINGER)
4-3-2-1(3 CMF, 2 AMF, 1 STRIKER)
4-3-1-2(4 DEFENDER, 3 DMF, 1 HOLE PLAYER, 2 STRIKER)
4-5-1(4 DEFENDER, 2 WINGER, 3 MIDFIELDER, 1 STRIKER)
4-3-3(4 DEFENDER, 3 DMF, 2 WING FORWARD, 1 STRIKER)
4-2-3-1(2 CB, 2 WING BACK, 2 WINGER, 1 HOLE PLAYER, 1 STRIKER)
4-3-3(2 WING BACK, 2 CB, 2 WINGER, 1 DMF, 3 CF)
4-1-4-1(4 DEFENDER, 1 DMF, 4 MIDFIELDER, 1 STRIKER)
3-4-3(WINGER)
3-5-2(SWEEPER/LIBERO)
3-5-2(WITHOUT SWEEPER/LIBERO)
3-6-1
5-4-1
4-3-3
4-2-3-1
4-2-2-2
4-3-1-2
2-3-5
1-3-3-3(LIBERO)
3-3-3-1
3-4-2-1
3-2-4-1
3-2-3-2
3-5-1-1
3-5-2
3-2-5
3-2-1-4
3-4-1-2
3-2-2-2-1
3-3-4
3-1-6
5-3-2
5-2-3
3-1-5-1
4-1-2-1-2
4-2-1-3
4-1-2-3
4-1-1-4
4-1-3-2
4-1-1-3-1
4-1-2-2-1
4-1-5
5-1-4
6-1-3
6-3-1
6-4-0
7-2-1
7-1-2
2-7-1
2-1-7
4-6-0
8-1-0
9-1-0
Let’s see what Ralf does at United!
He couldn't do much because of bad players and bad board
It seems like German football stands for a lot of things that don't have essentially to do with the skills on the ball itself.
Defensive thinking, high pressing, high intensity and tactical variability are all seperated ideas apart from the quality of the players with the ball.
RB Leipzig is the best example for this.
They display all those above mentioned qualities except for technical good football.
They show how far you can get without having a lot of individual class.
You get far but not to the end.
Therefore I think German managers put the individual quality of their players not in one of the first three columns.
It's a nice to have but not necessarily needed attribute.
And this sounds strange to me.
I agree that you also need the other components BUT the individual quality of the players should also rank really high !
Reason why there weren't many ballon d'ors for the germans. And why they are called 'The Team'
I always thought this was obvious yet never saw particular interest in strategy as the central topic, except in germany; they are also big and strong and seem to be trained to the 100%; intelligence + physicality will always beat "nice play", is obvious; with that being said, I think you can ALSO develop nice play with very specific repetitive drills of specific techniques, which is something I still don't see any team doing;
Other teams have stars. German team is the star.
After all Germany win 🇩🇪😍
Respect from 🇩🇿 to the German's
Ist das Absicht, dass man alle Cup Siege aufzählt, nur den von Eintracht Frankfurt 1980 nicht?
Ja, Frankfurt ist nicht der Rede wert.
Tretertruppen werden nicht genannt
1-7 2-7 2-8
Man if Brazilians would have such an attitude they would probably win 50% of the World cups. Undoubtedly greatest talents but wrong way to succeed.
A WorldCup win always shows that a nation has good football players but what it also shows is that this country is wealthy and educated and experienced enough to bring up such a good team. Just think of African countries if they would be as wealthy as Europe... They would smash us all in every sport.
@@immermitderruhe Ah yes, the wealthy countries like Uruguay, Argentina or Brazil.
There is no wrong way to succeed, only thing that matters is succeed
@@refragerator Today's professionalism in football is a problem for Uruguay, Argentina and Brazil as can be seen in every WC since 2002.
I don't think it's wrong way to succeed yes they need more organization and sophistication but it's their way of playing. They play it expressing themselves the most. And let's be honest when the best of it is in display it's enthralling to watch. It becomes more than a sport. It becomes a dance. Nothing like that in any football history. Germans have their own way of doing things. Let's celebrate and enjoy both approachs and learn from both not ridicule or criticize any.
I love German football
In one word: efficiency
Soon to be replaced by Turks and Africans
@@mariobasler3221 Cool, wie du das unter jeden Kommentar schreibst du Bot 🤦♀️
@@mariobasler3221 propaganda bot =)
is very good 👍👍
Super
09:22 Correction: Jurgen Klopp won the Champions League before Hansi Flick.
lol, in German he says it correctly the subtitles are wrong.
Brazil logo please
Who's here after rangnick is appointed by man utd manager ? Well deserved for him
5:58
Rest in Peace Gerd Muller
They now keep Beckenbauer's ashes in the Henri Delaunay Trophy.
it didn't even mention world cup.
6:08 baby face Toni Kroos
And now Tuchel won it
At least there we got something left of our German / Prussian heritage!
And soon Rangnick will be the national coach of Germany...👀
Fool. He is now Man Utd manager and guided to become 4th coach to win UCL in consecutive season.
@@rafaelamadeus5155 this aged well
Please provide Champion League highlights
No mention of Joachim Low? Germany played the most attractive football back to back world cups with him.
2006-2014 was peak German football fr
Jake Vargas SPAIN SWITZERLAND HONDURAS CHILE
Schwabenpower 💪🏻
🤮
Soon to be replaced by Turks and Africans
@@mariobasler3221 You sound like Mario Basler alright
Gillian Vicencio AUSTRALIA ITALY BRAZIL JAMAICA
💚
Bea Binene SOUTH AFRICA MEXICO URUGUAY FRANCE
@ EA Sports
Harlene Delgado USA THAILAND CHILE SWEDEN
Germany the real Fatherland of football!
Tell that to the past Italian National teams .
@@stironeceno I would
@@DBARTL Tell me of the times when Germany plays Italy .
@@stironeceno you mean in 2016😉
@@DBARTL , Overall when the two teams met , Italy has won more matches than Germany
Ich hätte gerne Rangnick als Trainer der Nationalmannschaft gesehen....
Caliphate 2050
Rangnick MUSS neuer Bundestrainer werden!
Joshua Dionisio ITALY PARAGUAY NEW ZEALAND SLOVAKIA
Make another one about Armenians 🇦🇲
Too insignificant.
The best ideologies are from Italy and Germany, it's normal italy 4-3 Germany in world cup 1970 is called the game of the century
Bianca Dava ENGLAND SCOTLAND ARGENTINA JAPAN
We all know who the king of German football was in the past dacade and present day
Jurgen Klopp 👑
Klopp and Flick would make a good coaching duo for the German team.
@@bluestorm9977 it would be a clash of egos
@@bulumkomponco9599 Either that or if they put aside their egos and mesh their ideas, it could create a monster of a team
@@bluestorm9977 Lets hope they never get either of them especially Flick Germany have enough world cups lol
@@gerhardaryawardana72
There's a german saying:
*Too many cooks, spoil the broth*
There's a reason football clubs only hire one main coach and not several.
Mark Castillo ENGLAND USA ALGERIA SLOVENIA
Joyce Ilas CANADA CAMEROON NEW ZEALAND NETHERLANDS
Finaly good german ideology
Care to elaborate? ;)
@@Frosty1979 1933-1945
Jogilöw
Germany ,great National Team , except when it plays Italy . then not so Great .
Because the Italians slow the game down. There is no ball movement to press.
@@Daewonnni Are you telling me the Italian wins is because they slow the game down ? That doesn't prevent the Germans from playing their own style .
Well, Italy is one of the best football nations of all time, no shame in loosing to them
🇨🇵next?
Enttäuschung
Except for the counter pressing, this is pretty similar to the English way, innit?
Yep. Germans and English are kinda similar in general actually. English are just a bit more arrogant, since they were on the winning sides of the World wars.^^
@@Frosty1979 Why tf do people have to bring politics into everything
@@batistalift it's reality english think they conquered the world hence they are arrogant as hell.
yh, but we have also more link up play in our game than u historically
If this was Basketball, someone would point out that Rangnick was 1st with Schalke, then lost 5 out of 6 and the Championship...
Just saying...
well he was at schalke, that's kind of their thing. we have a saying in germany which means "that will never happen" and it goes like this: "that will happen when schalke wins the league." i think it originated in the 2000/01 season, but don't quote me on that.
The almost got the all big countries in this ideology series they forgot 🇫🇷 and 🇧🇪 though
Azzurri vs die mannschaft the only match
Italy vs Germany is always a dramatic and intensity match, it started from the game of the century italy 4-3 Germany to for now euro 2016 euros 1-1 6-5 pens
@@tuttiibimbidevonomoriremal8490 I like must italy because is an team must organizated germany only attack 😆😆
Bitte Germans 💪
So this is what Marx was critiquing
Hi
Germany "hello Brazil"
Brazil "hi Germany please don't say anything about the 2014 world cup"
Germany "do yo remember when we destroyed you 7 to 1"
Brazil "why man why 😔"
@Football G.O.A.T 😂
Korean: we knew their ideology
How?
Which ideology? Jogi's IdEoLoGy?
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Gabby Padilla GERMANY CHINA SPAIN SOUTH AFRICA
Va dentro il pallone, lo mette fuori Cannavaro…poi ancora insiste Podolski, CANNAVARO, CANNAVARO!Via il contropiede con Totti, dentro il pallone per Gilardino, Gilardino la può tenere anche vicino alla bandierina, cerca l’uno contro uno…dentro Del Piero, DEL PIEROOOO GOOOOOOOL ALEEEX DEL PIEROOOO…CHIUDETE LE VALIGIE, SI VA A BERLINO BEPPE, SI VA A BERLINO”
German mentality
Premier-Lesgue is a joke against this!
english Footballers are jealous from GERMAN Footballers.
No
Lucho Ayala GERMANY AUSTRALIA SERBIA GHANA
Real Madrid (1)
Bayern is way better than real madrid
Bayern Munich>>>>>real Madrid
Until they meet Real Madrid in the ucl or Italy in international tournaments
Sure. That's why Real Madrid barely survived the group stages against Monchengladbach, who are currently not even top 6 in the Bundesliga
Or Spain
@@SohamGanguly-nj5rj Not a Madrid fan but does it matter? Look at the table. And the truth is Real Madrid have a history of knocking out German clubs (partially Barcelona too)
Head 2 head between Bayern and Real Madrid is even, (14-13 in Real's favour). Bayern absolutely destroys Barcelona in H2H in Europe. There is a reason, Bayern is labelled 'La Bestia Negra' by the Spanish media since they have managed to take down Spanish giants even in their low points. For Bayern, it was really just the reign under Pep Guardiola that screwed our record against Spanish clubs.
@@alexandrustefan9964 Spain has come to the scene very recently. There's a reason they have only 1 WC and Germany 4.
Joana Marie Tan ARGENTINA NIGERIA SOUTH KOREA GREECE
Funny to watch this after Germany losing 1:2 against Macedonia +)