They said that people found her charming? Well, maybe the video clips I've seen of her don't portray her fairly but I find her creepy as hell! Blink, damnit, blink! I'm uncomfortable just watching her and listening to her speak. And of course it turns out that she's a fraud who's driven by only her greed. It's sad to me because she's brilliant and with her connections could have made a positive impact on the entire world . What a waste.
Kind of feel bad for Channing Robertson. He went from a respected Engineering professor at Stanford to one of Holme’s rubes. Very surprising how a man of his stature, background and intelligence could be so easily fooled by a Sociopathic Con Artist like Elizabeth Homes.
I believe many of them were eventually the precise people that blew the whistle on her when they realized the science just didn't work, but it was her ability to continue the fraud for years and amass billions. Oh, also the apple doesn't fall too fat from the tree.
Her eyes are creepy. Shes weird looking anyway. She said they dont put pretty women like her in prison. I dont know who's been lying to her but shes far from pretty. Shes just plain creepy
I'm deeply shocked that even Larry Alison, my former boss-boss from ORACLE, didn't recognize her as the evil person that she is. Larry was my role-model, when I worked for ORACLE in the 1990's over here in Germany.
I've been so fascinated with this whole story and have been watching all the videos I could find about Elizabeth Holmes. Thank you for being so thorough in your presentation. After this, I'll watch Part 2 and feel I'll finally get the whole story. You've done a great job.
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Thank you for this in-depth report on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. I like the concept she was trying to develop. I just spent 5 days in the hospital. I have all the bruises on my hand where blood was drawn (by what I call vampires)at 5 am. If they could have developed an easier way to do blood work that would have been wonderful. Now I understand what caused her and her company to go down the tubes. Looking forward to Part 2.
It was thanks to this Theranos scandal that I know something about bloodwork and why sometimes they need to take so much. Technology will always have to accommodate human biology.
It sounded ideal, but trusting a young kid who is also the child of an Enron exec... it's not surprising how it ended. In the future, I'm sure someone will actually develop a better method.
Personally I wish her invention come true; it's very hard to draw blood from senior patients, if a single blood drop could fulfill requirements of a blood test, it would be a huge thing for so many.
Looks like she learned a lot from her father on how to scam people. As for the billionaires who invested in Elizabeth's company, I have little sympathy.
Unfortunately the jury took the opposite attitude. They found her guilty of defrauding investors but not patients. And as a result will probably get a much reduced sentence as compared to sunny bulwani. She lives a charmed life. She's fooling people even now.
I don't care about the money side of the whole thing, as a health care professional it hurts me to the core how she could play with the lives of the patients like this. The anxiety from a false positive HIV-test? If I accidentally did that to someone I think I would die. And she does not care
I hope she gets the full force of the law. This is shocking, especially as she followed in her father's footstep, who wasn't employable for years and then... In government!!! Great!
She was both a passionate CEO and a Con Artist. How anyone that gave her even a nickel without thinking "now how in the hell can she run 200 to 400 tests off of one drop of blood- it's IMPOSSIBLE" blows my mind...
@@SammyNeedsAnAlibi we've come along way. But not with a drop of blood for testing. But, hey. Eventually, it will happen. Look at far along DNA has come along. I'm loving all these Murderers and Rapist finally getting caught and justice for the victims and answers for the Families. But all of these people knew it was virtually impossible to run the tests that she was claiming. That's why she kept changing the board and scientist and advisors. She would have kept it going and going. She was a pretty brilliant con to get contributions and investments from Computer/Internet Hi-Tech and not one penny from Med-Technology. That should be someone's first clue. I just don't understand how people get away with it.
There is a magic Sugar Daddy in the sky who only asks us to believe he exists! That's it! And like any good Dictator like Putin all he asks is to sing only his praises, blindly obey, beg, cry down on one's knees and bingo! It is easy living sponging off him for eternity! Yay! And all those who did not believe - entire families, women, children, even babies - will be fried in gas chambers, yes, just like Jews were And BILLIONS cheer! Maybe we are not that bright
Thanks for your help Danielle you been doing such a great job it's been nice to meet you I hope our girl is fine and she'll be better soon but I hope you will be assisting her in future videos
It wasn't until she launched her company. Several of her alumni said she had a perfectly normal voice all through university. Much like everything else about her if was a show and lie.
Miss Holmes is a puzzle for certain. Passionate CEO, or con artist is an eloquently phrased question. I'm inclined to think originally she was most certainly the passionate creator of a device she thought would take the medical world by storm. I also believe the early failures that she declined to report were due to her belief that all of the bugs could be ironed out. But then I think reality hit her, that she was the captain of a sinking ship. But still she hoped that they'd or she'd find a way out. Ultimately it hit her that she was too far in. I'm sure the money was highly persuasive so she kept up her charade. Then eventually she decided to hire a partner (more for damage control). In the end that partner became (had to become) someone to point a finger at. The sad thing is that she was a dreamer. A brilliant dreamer btw. But eventually the whole thing took on a life of it's own and she simply rode it out. It's hard for me to think it was a scam right out of the gate because knowing that she'd crossed the line should've deterred her from falsifying all the test records. There's a saying that "There's a fine line between genius and insanity " I think that this is the poster child for that saying. I feel sorry for her because a genius should've known when to throw in the towel so that leaves con-artist???? Perplexing to say the least. I apologize for all of my cliches. It just seemed a more direct way of sharing my thought . Although this comment is still way to lengthy if you're still reading the thank you and God bless😇👍✌
Exactly how I feel about it! And do believe this brilliant idea to be viable! Why can't you replicate blood cells like DNA, and immediately have a large enough sample to test? 🤔
@@deborahfidler2538 That is an excellent question but I'm not qualified to give an educated response but I know how people are and I trust that if Miss Holmes said it's possible then it is possible. I think that she had to have been just one equation or one experiment away from achieving her goal but she couldn't find where it was. That's why she kept trying for so long. There's a possibility that she wanted the recognition of fixing it on her own instead of collaborating with another gifted individual. She wasn't just running around spending money like true scam artists do she was still in the game. And I'm afraid that time just ran out on her and investors just got impatient. In all eventuality I'm convinced it was viable idea. Do you see why i used cliches originally??? This is just tip of my thoughts on the matter. My comment would've been mile long if I'd traveled down this rabbit hole. Kind of like this one is doing so my sincerest apologies. The people I hang out with are sports fanatics and we don't talk about these kind of issues. My buddies are more caveman than intellectual so I thank you so very much for your response. I truly appreciate it. You take care of yourself and God bless😇👍✌
@@JimmyOgilvie52 that's fair and I understand your point. And even more I'm sorry to have upset you so terribly. But let me ask is that her fault or the fault of her upbringing. If I raise a monster is it the monster's fault or mine. That was sort of my point. I apologize for the rage I've invoked. It was my fault entirely for not making myself more clear. In retrospect I could've just asked the question is it the monster's fault or my own. But it didnt dawn on me to take that approach. In hindsight I wish I'd came from another angle but the question is still out there is it her fault. Is a terrible work of art the fault of the art itself or the artist. I completely agree on the billion million thing. Apparently that part I didn't pay attention to. I'll be more precise in the future. Not only in what I say but also in what i hear. I think i was biased going in and only heard what i wanted to. That's a distinct possibility that I hadn't previously known about myself. Apparently I'm not as objective as I've given myself credit for. I stand humbled by your admonishment. I can only say that I believe that my heart was in the right as I was forming my opinion. And ask you to please not let this difference of opinion cripple our relationship for life. I'd prefer to never comment again than lose a friend. I'd ask you to accept my apology but that would be redundant an inaccurate. From your point of view you are entirely accurate. From my angle tho I'm feeling just as certain. So with my tail between my legs I ask you if it's okay the we agree to disagree and move on from here. My inclination is to defend my point but I learned a long time ago that you cant argue with a confident man. So I'll simply acquiesce. My bad bruh.👍✌
@@JimmyOgilvie52 I'm forever the defender of the underdog. I don't believe I've ever fought another human had anything to do with me. Its always just my upbringing because I was taught to always defend the weak. In hindsight without their permission btw. I never thought things thru that far. All's I know is that nobody has told me that they wish I hadn't interjected myself. Except of course the judge. I had to a bullet one time (a year) that had absolutely nothing to do with me. I missed a part of 09 and most of 2010 In hindsight would I do it again?? Surprisingly yes I would. Weaker people do not deserve to be taken advantage of. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. My apologies sir. I've let my train of thought get disastrously off course . My point is/was is that I believe i've discovered where my bias most certainly was derived from. Sorry about my inadequacy. I'd delete and and start over but #1 I'm lazy af. #2 I don't apologize for doing what I perceive as correct and #3 I'm a stubborn old bastard that realizes hes not always correct but doesn't enjoy admitting it. I believe or at least hope you have or will forgive me for how I approached our last statement and then asking you if you're in fact still in a forgiving mood might I ask you to forgive this one also. I'm an optimist on occasion regarding my relationship with my New York buddy that he's going to be inclined to say it's all good. On the off chance I'm mistaken in my estimation then I can only say it wouldn't be the first time i've opened my mouth and inserted my foot. And regretfully probably won't be the last time either. Now!!! Having said all of that Stay Gold Mr. Oglevy. By the way that you ended your previous comment attempt to inject humor into our situation would be counterproductive. But to me the whole difference of opinion is silly. I say things but never with the confidence you have. I don't think I've been that certain of anything I've ever said my entire life. I've always tried leave myself some wiggle room a backdoor to escape from. It's impressive to see that kind of intensity in anothe human being. But i gotta be real here it's also a little bit.scary. I'm sure you didn't mean to come off that way. But wow. Message received my friend. It looked like it hurt. Lol. It's probably counter productive to interject humor at this moment. I question myself today more than I ever have before. I'm still a tad bit confused how my innocuous statement invoked that kind of intensity though. Holy cow. Wanna be my bodyguard??? Seriously you've intimidated me. That's not easy to accomplish kudos James. I'm afraid I've beaten this horse to death by now so I think that I'll reluctantly have to bid you a fond adieu. Hopefully our paths will cross again one day. I'd like that. Godspeed my brother.👍✌🙏😇
@@JimmyOgilvie52 I'm so very sorry James but I cant let this thing go. I get the point that you're a clinical psychologist and my knowledge comes from the other side of the couch. But coming upon 7 years of personal and group has only taught me one thing. That everyone I say again everyone I reiterate everyone can use some sort of therapy. Do you think that Freud couldn't have used anothe opinion. Bad analogy but in my estimation we're all fallible. In what we believe??? In whatever we do???? I have to call you out dude. You talk so bad about a lady like she owes you money or something. Wow!!! Were you an investor. That would connect all of the dots. I'm only guessing here but if I'm correct your obvious dislike of miss Holmes is totally and completely justified BUT!!! If my guess is wrong then idk. There's a deep seeded hatred in there. I'd like to say strong dislike but I that would be an underestimation. I'll admit at first I thought you were attacking me with your words but I knew better than to engage into an argument over the internet. So I said nothing. I have to admit now that I didn't read every word because it invoke a fight or flight response and I wasn't going anywhere. There is also a chance that I never got the gyst of your comment but that's complete bullshit. I truly think thank you were angry while you composed that reply and even I think you were mad at me for having a difference of opinion. I'm afraid you had me pegged one way and were upset that didnt measure up. The whole psychology background is where I find myself such a conundrum. It must be my fault for having my opinion but you must be right. You're the guys that think this shit up. But so certain doesnt allow for human infallibility not a word I know but it fits so sue me. I would've thought that psychology 101 would cover things like rule #1 . Would be something akin to that there's no 100% in anything regarding human behavior. Meaning just because I'm convinced of something doesn't necessarily make it correct. You hate Elizabeth Holmes like she slapped your child or something. I'm going to end here because if you are truly correct my taking her side is defending the devil as you so aptly perceive her that would be fruitless. Hopefully somewhere we'll find an impasse of some sorts because I think you're truly angry at me and ive never done anything to you so it's on you. I just wish Elizabeth Holmes had never been born. That way a friuhendship that i was beginning to value would still be intact. Unharmed. She drove a metaphorical stake between us and i don't like it. So anyways it's still an honor and privilege but sadly it's also topped with a dollop of regret. That fact will haunt me into the next life. If I've offended you in any way it was not my intention .bye my friend
She creeps me out not because she's a manipulator, but because her big blue eyes scare me. even if i didn't know what she's done I'd still get goosebumps the second she looked at me does anyone else feel the same way?
A friend of mine was an engineer on this project and he believes that Holmes was keeping vital information from them through compartmentalizing each department so they couldn’t properly communicate. I think the initial idea was genuine, but when she realized it may not work she started to manipulate in order to keep investors.
I'm getting Mira Sorvino, Romy and Michele's High School Reunion, voice vibes😂 Elizabeth, if you would've spent as much time and effort actually TRYING to make something that worked and less time lying and scamming, you may have ACTUALLY saved the world! It's incredibly sad to me that you now have to see your children grow up behind bars. I hope you spend the rest of your life trying to become a better person.
She is smart, that is a given. I mean she did come up with the concept of the blood drop idea. I think had it panned out differently she might have invented good things.she was a con woman or was she someone so convinced her product would work, she wouldn’t take no as an answer? I think her persona also shows that she wanted to be taken seriously. In the end she ended up a con woman but I don’t think this was her goal from the get go. Had this worked whe would have made even more billions. Heck I believed it when I saw it in the newspaper back then and was excited for it, thinking “yes, finally someone figured it out”…
The idea of a drop of blood was anything but smart. There a minimum requirements on volume for accurate testing. She was a con woman, liar and manipulator nothing more. Claiming it was ever going to be possible was nothing but a con.
"She is smart, that is a given," says who? Smart people know that "you can fool some people some of the time, but not all people all the time." EH thought that she could fool all people all the time, so smart she is not. Brazen liar, delusional she is.
Watching her straight face into cameras with those eyes makes me wonder if she may well not be human - same feeling I get with Mark Zuckerberg. Will we someday discover that transhumanism has moved beyond theory and is alive and well integrated into our world? She rarely blinks her eyes and they darn near look transparent. Additionally she appears to have no moral compass.
Lab work does not drive 80% of our decisions. History of the illness, followed by the physical exam, then labs and imaging. We choose the lab tests to order based on the history, physical, and demographic factors.
She's spending her prison sentence in a cosy open women's prison no remorse and laughing in her victims faces plus she's had 2 years of her sentence taken off
"we would like to see a world were people would have the right to have access to this type of testing"...... those or moral and policy principles - completely irrelevant to the claimed functionality of technology itself.
CEO or con artist thier is no difference the mind is same thinking, selfish and ruthless While showing a side of caring and convincing with charisma is what draws them in. So both have same traits selfish and wealth.always sceaming to make a buck even while sleeping. No such animal a passionate CEO..
She doesn't look hynotizing to me, she looks like she wants to lure me into a van. I wouldn't trust her with her background at all with investments, she just gives bad vibes all aroound
Is that question directed at us, the viewers? If yes, the answer is, a highly manipulative CON artist. There is no relevance to this discussion any more. She is in prison.
multiple errors in the first 3 minutes theranos was a medical device/blood testing company...not a tech company jobs didnt drop out of school to start apple...he dropped out of school because he chose to go to a very expensive liberal arts college, his parents couldnt afford it and he chose to be a bum holmes' father worked in a number of industries, moving back and forth between the public and private sector...he was not unemployable after enron imploded, he went back into the public sector and no...the family wasnt dead broke and your narrative being told in a non-linear fashion is very confusing if elizabeth holmes wasnt elizabeth holmes...with family connections to money and the government...her idea and company would have died on the vine and she didnt come up with the idea...there were already a few companies who were working with microfluidics...and she poached employees from them she was passionate about one thing...being rich and famous and trying to take a shortcut to both
Calling Steve Jobs a bum is absurd. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. What is it that you do? You should list your degrees, accomplishments, companies you have created, volunteer projects you are involved in etc. Your arrogant, patronizing comment is more than off-putting. I'm just making sure you know. 💀🤣
BTW after the Enron scandal was uncovered, her father, being VP lost his income and was broke. He lost their home and had to live in a friend's home rent free etc so that sounds pretty close to destitute to me.
@@sfletch3042 he wasnt flat broke. he needed to move back to dc to get back into public life. the housing market in dc is really bad, that is why he ended up in a friends home until he started the new gig. her father has never been unemployed for any great length of time. they paid her tuition to stanford...she didnt get any student loans...her parents were far from poor
@@sfletch3042 why dont you read jobs bio. he called himself a bum. he didnt have a job when he dropped out...he stuck around the university and audited classes. was jobs not friends with woz, he wouldve been a used car salesman
@@thewkovacs316 Your sentence sounded as if you were referring to him as a bum. My mistake. I know the basics of his story. He perhaps might have worked as a used car salesman for a time but there is no way he would have have stayed there lol. He is a visionary and would have done something great/smart/big regardless of who he did or did not meet.
honestly i don't really think she is smart. Its like saying im smart because i came up with an idea to land a man on the sun. I think the appropriate response to grandiose ideas is, " yes? well how the hell are you going to do that?"
Iv'e watched alot of Elizabeth Holmes documentaries. This is one of the best I'ive seen. Very indepth.
They said that people found her charming? Well, maybe the video clips I've seen of her don't portray her fairly but I find her creepy as hell! Blink, damnit, blink! I'm uncomfortable just watching her and listening to her speak. And of course it turns out that she's a fraud who's driven by only her greed. It's sad to me because she's brilliant and with her connections could have made a positive impact on the entire world . What a waste.
@Keith sameee!! I cant stand her voice or her creepy ass vibes. 🙉😅
Kind of feel bad for Channing Robertson. He went from a respected Engineering professor at Stanford to one of Holme’s rubes.
Very surprising how a man of his stature, background and intelligence could be so easily fooled by a Sociopathic Con Artist like Elizabeth Homes.
Sure there're people out there who "found her charming," and there who found "to me because she's brilliant" as hell.
Creepy,yes!!!!
She's has as much charm as a snow tire.
this woman is nothing but a sociopathic con artist. good video! looking forward to part 2. thanks
Like her father.
@@myunknownland9272 i was wondering if it ran in the family!
I feel bad for the scientists who signed on genuinely thinking they'd be helping humanity
Ignorance is bliss.
I believe many of them were eventually the precise people that blew the whistle on her when they realized the science just didn't work, but it was her ability to continue the fraud for years and amass billions. Oh, also the apple doesn't fall too fat from the tree.
I don’t. How dumb can you be. Scientists believed this?? 😂
Daddy , daddy what is to 'Berate an employee'
Its like if you are an ars hole and you yell at and humiliate your employee
Yes & I do too... My ❤ goes out to these loyal scientists. It's really sad because they believed all her lies.
That unblinking stare is a hallmark of psychopathy. Psychopaths don't feel uncomfortable doing it because they don't pick up on how weird it is
Um... her voice and unblinking eyes make me feel like I'm facing a sleep paralysis demon.
Only the aliens ever have faces for me, the shadowy dark figures are amorphous. And the huge glowing spider was facing away from me.
Yes
Girl is freakin me out at the 28:02 mark! CREEPY AS HECK😳 Theirs nothing charming or attractive about this person in the slightest. UGH
Her eyes are creepy. Shes weird looking anyway. She said they dont put pretty women like her in prison. I dont know who's been lying to her but shes far from pretty. Shes just plain creepy
I remember thinking how in the world did this good looking man fall for her she is like - red flags!!!!
You do such a good job! Can't wait for part 2!
Good reporting. But it's sad to see this woman took advantage of the system, employees and innocent people. Thanks Megan and narrator.
Yep a snake oil salesperson by any other name is still a snake oil salesperson .
Stephanie Lazarus eyes always freak me out in the intro. Lol.
I'm deeply shocked that even Larry Alison, my former boss-boss from ORACLE, didn't recognize her as the evil person that she is.
Larry was my role-model, when I worked for ORACLE in the 1990's over here in Germany.
I don't blame him. These con artists on their day you can't escape
I've been so fascinated with this whole story and have been watching all the videos I could find about Elizabeth Holmes.
Thank you for being so thorough in your presentation. After this, I'll watch Part 2 and feel I'll finally get the whole story.
You've done a great job.
Have you watched the Hulu series “the dropout “?
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Thank you for this in-depth report on Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. I like the concept she was trying to develop. I just spent 5 days in the hospital. I have all the bruises on my hand where blood was drawn (by what I call vampires)at 5 am. If they could have developed an easier way to do blood work that would have been wonderful. Now I understand what caused her and her company to go down the tubes. Looking forward to Part 2.
It was thanks to this Theranos scandal that I know something about bloodwork and why sometimes they need to take so much. Technology will always have to accommodate human biology.
It sounded ideal, but trusting a young kid who is also the child of an Enron exec... it's not surprising how it ended. In the future, I'm sure someone will actually develop a better method.
It was no fun to draw blood every morning as an intern in the 1980s, but I didn’t think of myself as a vampire.
@@Tina06019 no offense was meant, however, that is my way of handling the stress of having my blood taken for any reason.
She was and is nothing more or less than a fraud
That is scary that she can lie so well and so easily.
Go watch Erin Brockovich. "They're called boobs, Ed!"
And lie in public, with convincing passion…….
Personally I wish her invention come true; it's very hard to draw blood from senior patients, if a single blood drop could fulfill requirements of a blood test, it would be a huge thing for so many.
Why not just wish disease would disappear? They are equally likely.
Looks like she learned a lot from her father on how to scam people. As for the billionaires who invested in Elizabeth's company, I have little sympathy.
Unfortunately the jury took the opposite attitude. They found her guilty of defrauding investors but not patients. And as a result will probably get a much reduced sentence as compared to sunny bulwani. She lives a charmed life. She's fooling people even now.
I don't care about the money side of the whole thing, as a health care professional it hurts me to the core how she could play with the lives of the patients like this. The anxiety from a false positive HIV-test? If I accidentally did that to someone I think I would die. And she does not care
Yet her conviction was related to investor fraud and not misleading patients with erroneous medical test results. Just wrong
YES!!!
That woman is worse than 10 Ted Bundy combined.
I hope she gets the full force of the law. This is shocking, especially as she followed in her father's footstep, who wasn't employable for years and then... In government!!! Great!
Both her parents worked for the government...in other words, OUR TAX MONEY.
@@PungiFungi I am honest, loyal and had the credentials but couldn't get into a government job. But low lives like this do? How?
Corporate cartel to government cartel
She was both a passionate CEO and a Con Artist. How anyone that gave her even a nickel without thinking "now how in the hell can she run 200 to 400 tests off of one drop of blood- it's IMPOSSIBLE" blows my mind...
Especially how the test are run without a specimen being separated in a centrifuge to develop a specimen adequate for accurate testing.
@@dorothyc6390 exactly... somethings can't be done at this point of time. Maybe one day, but today ain't that day.
@@SammyNeedsAnAlibi we've come along way. But not with a drop of blood for testing. But, hey. Eventually, it will happen. Look at far along DNA has come along. I'm loving all these Murderers and Rapist finally getting caught and justice for the victims and answers for the Families. But all of these people knew it was virtually impossible to run the tests that she was claiming. That's why she kept changing the board and scientist and advisors. She would have kept it going and going. She was a pretty brilliant con to get contributions and investments from Computer/Internet Hi-Tech and not one penny from Med-Technology.
That should be someone's first clue. I just don't understand how people get away with it.
Nope. Con Artist. Period.
There is a magic Sugar Daddy in the sky who only asks us to believe he exists! That's it!
And like any good Dictator like Putin all he asks is to sing only his praises, blindly obey, beg, cry down on one's knees and bingo! It is easy living sponging off him for eternity! Yay!
And all those who did not believe - entire families, women, children, even babies - will be fried in gas chambers, yes, just like Jews were
And BILLIONS cheer!
Maybe we are not that bright
Thanks for your help Danielle you been doing such a great job it's been nice to meet you I hope our girl is fine and she'll be better soon but I hope you will be assisting her in future videos
How could she claim to be a billionaire without a functioning product? And, Theranos never went public.
She didn't say she was a billionaire. Forbes estimated Theranos was valued at 10 billion dollars and her stake was valued as high 4.5 billion.
love the video keep up the great work
Her voice is so deep!
It wasn't until she launched her company. Several of her alumni said she had a perfectly normal voice all through university. Much like everything else about her if was a show and lie.
Falsetto
I can't see any attraction, she is talking as robot
Woohoo! I have been waiting for this!😁👍💖
No offense but there was nothing charming about this woman and that fake male voice of hers she feigned was just cringed.T
The introduction music is so intoxicating and scary but relaxing at the same time.
Thank you Megan and Danielle!
Miss Holmes is a puzzle for certain.
Passionate CEO, or con artist is an eloquently phrased question.
I'm inclined to think originally she was most certainly the passionate creator of a device she thought would take the medical world by storm. I also believe the early failures that she declined to report were due to her belief that all of the bugs could be ironed out. But then I think reality hit her, that she was the captain of a sinking ship. But still she hoped that they'd or she'd find a way out. Ultimately it hit her that she was too far in.
I'm sure the money was highly persuasive so she kept up her charade. Then eventually she decided to hire a partner (more for damage control).
In the end that partner became (had to become) someone to point a finger at.
The sad thing is that she was a dreamer. A brilliant dreamer btw.
But eventually the whole thing took on a life of it's own and she simply rode it out.
It's hard for me to think it was a scam right out of the gate because knowing that she'd crossed the line should've deterred her from falsifying all the test records.
There's a saying that "There's a fine line between genius and insanity "
I think that this is the poster child for that saying. I feel sorry for her because a genius should've known when to throw in the towel so that leaves con-artist????
Perplexing to say the least.
I apologize for all of my cliches. It just seemed a more direct way of sharing my thought . Although this comment is still way to lengthy if you're still reading the thank you and God bless😇👍✌
Exactly how I feel about it! And do believe this brilliant idea to be viable! Why can't you replicate blood cells like DNA, and immediately have a large enough sample to test? 🤔
@@deborahfidler2538
That is an excellent question but I'm not qualified to give an educated response but I know how people are and I trust that if Miss Holmes said it's possible then it is possible. I think that she had to have been just one equation or one experiment away from achieving her goal but she couldn't find where it was. That's why she kept trying for so long. There's a possibility that she wanted the recognition of fixing it on her own instead of collaborating with another gifted individual. She wasn't just running around spending money like true scam artists do she was still in the game. And I'm afraid that time just ran out on her and investors just got impatient. In all eventuality I'm convinced it was viable idea. Do you see why i used cliches originally???
This is just tip of my thoughts on the matter. My comment would've been mile long if I'd traveled down this rabbit hole. Kind of like this one is doing so my sincerest apologies. The people I hang out with are sports fanatics and we don't talk about these kind of issues. My buddies are more caveman than intellectual so I thank you so very much for your response. I truly appreciate it. You take care of yourself and God bless😇👍✌
@@JimmyOgilvie52 that's fair and I understand your point. And even more I'm sorry to have upset you so terribly. But let me ask is that her fault or the fault of her upbringing. If I raise a monster is it the monster's fault or mine. That was sort of my point. I apologize for the rage I've invoked. It was my fault entirely for not making myself more clear. In retrospect I could've just asked the question is it the monster's fault or my own. But it didnt dawn on me to take that approach. In hindsight I wish I'd came from another angle but the question is still out there is it her fault. Is a terrible work of art the fault of the art itself or the artist. I completely agree on the billion million thing. Apparently that part I didn't pay attention to. I'll be more precise in the future. Not only in what I say but also in what i hear. I think i was biased going in and only heard what i wanted to. That's a distinct possibility that I hadn't previously known about myself. Apparently I'm not as objective as I've given myself credit for. I stand humbled by your admonishment. I can only say that I believe that my heart was in the right as I was forming my opinion. And ask you to please not let this difference of opinion cripple our relationship for life. I'd prefer to never comment again than lose a friend. I'd ask you to accept my apology but that would be redundant an inaccurate. From your point of view you are entirely accurate. From my angle tho I'm feeling just as certain. So with my tail between my legs I ask you if it's okay the we agree to disagree and move on from here. My inclination is to defend my point but I learned a long time ago that you cant argue with a confident man. So I'll simply acquiesce. My bad bruh.👍✌
@@JimmyOgilvie52 I'm forever the defender of the underdog. I don't believe I've ever fought another human had anything to do with me. Its always just my upbringing because I was taught to always defend the weak. In hindsight without their permission btw. I never thought things thru that far. All's I know is that nobody has told me that they wish I hadn't interjected myself. Except of course the judge. I had to a bullet one time (a year) that had absolutely nothing to do with me. I missed a part of 09 and most of 2010
In hindsight would I do it again??
Surprisingly yes I would. Weaker people do not deserve to be taken advantage of. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. My apologies sir. I've let my train of thought get disastrously off course
. My point is/was is that I believe i've discovered where my bias most certainly was derived from. Sorry about my inadequacy. I'd delete and and start over but #1 I'm lazy af. #2 I don't apologize for doing what I perceive as correct and #3 I'm a stubborn old bastard that realizes hes not always correct but doesn't enjoy admitting it. I believe or at least hope you have or will forgive me for how I approached our last statement and then asking you if you're in fact still in a forgiving mood might I ask you to forgive this one also.
I'm an optimist on occasion regarding my relationship with my New York buddy that he's going to be inclined to say it's all good. On the off chance I'm mistaken in my estimation then I can only say it wouldn't be the first time i've opened my mouth and inserted my foot. And regretfully probably won't be the last time either. Now!!! Having said all of that Stay Gold Mr. Oglevy. By the way that you ended your previous comment attempt to inject humor into our situation would be counterproductive. But to me the whole difference of opinion is silly. I say things but never with the confidence you have. I don't think I've been that certain of anything I've ever said my entire life. I've always tried leave myself some wiggle room a backdoor to escape from. It's impressive to see that kind of intensity in anothe human being. But i gotta be real here it's also a little bit.scary. I'm sure you didn't mean to come off that way. But wow. Message received my friend. It looked like it hurt. Lol. It's probably counter productive to interject humor at this moment. I question myself today more than I ever have before. I'm still a tad bit confused how my innocuous statement invoked that kind of intensity though. Holy cow.
Wanna be my bodyguard???
Seriously you've intimidated me. That's not easy to accomplish kudos James.
I'm afraid I've beaten this horse to death by now so I think that I'll reluctantly have to bid you a fond adieu. Hopefully our paths will cross again one day. I'd like that. Godspeed my brother.👍✌🙏😇
@@JimmyOgilvie52 I'm so very sorry James but I cant let this thing go. I get the point that you're a clinical psychologist and my knowledge comes from the other side of the couch. But coming upon 7 years of personal and group has only taught me one thing. That everyone I say again everyone I reiterate everyone can use some sort of therapy. Do you think that Freud couldn't have used anothe opinion. Bad analogy but in my estimation we're all fallible. In what we believe???
In whatever we do????
I have to call you out dude. You talk so bad about a lady like she owes you money or something. Wow!!! Were you an investor. That would connect all of the dots. I'm only guessing here but if I'm correct your obvious dislike of miss Holmes is totally and completely justified
BUT!!!
If my guess is wrong then idk. There's a deep seeded hatred in there. I'd like to say strong dislike but I that would be an underestimation. I'll admit at first I thought you were attacking me with your words but I knew better than to engage into an argument over the internet. So I said nothing. I have to admit now that I didn't read every word because it invoke a fight or flight response and I wasn't going anywhere. There is also a chance that I never got the gyst of your comment but that's complete bullshit. I truly think thank you were angry while you composed that reply and even I think you were mad at me for having a difference of opinion. I'm afraid you had me pegged one way and were upset that didnt measure up. The whole psychology background is where I find myself such a conundrum. It must be my fault for having my opinion but you must be right. You're the guys that think this shit up. But so certain doesnt allow for human infallibility not a word I know but it fits so sue me. I would've thought that psychology 101 would cover things like rule #1 . Would be something akin to that there's no 100% in anything regarding human behavior. Meaning just because I'm convinced of something doesn't necessarily make it correct. You hate Elizabeth Holmes like she slapped your child or something. I'm going to end here because if you are truly correct my taking her side is defending the devil as you so aptly perceive her that would be fruitless. Hopefully somewhere we'll find an impasse of some sorts because I think you're truly angry at me and ive never done anything to you so it's on you. I just wish Elizabeth Holmes had never been born. That way a friuhendship that i was beginning to value would still be intact. Unharmed. She drove a metaphorical stake between us and i don't like it. So anyways it's still an honor and privilege but sadly it's also topped with a dollop of regret. That fact will haunt me into the next life. If I've offended you in any way it was not my intention .bye my friend
She creeps me out not because she's a manipulator, but because her big blue eyes scare me.
even if i didn't know what she's done I'd still get goosebumps the second she looked at me does anyone else feel the same way?
A friend of mine was an engineer on this project and he believes that Holmes was keeping vital information from them through compartmentalizing each department so they couldn’t properly communicate. I think the initial idea was genuine, but when she realized it may not work she started to manipulate in order to keep investors.
Thanks Danielle. 👍
Can't wait for part 2.
You men to tell me you got this baritone throaty voice just doing Sunny , WOW this is amazing can we get some details , thank you
Passionate Con Artist
It seems like half the commenters didn't even watch the video
Very interesting, and very informative. Thank you!
How could Bill and George be fooled ny her and to think they held high office in the USA
Gotta sub, amazing content 😎🤩
Thanks for sharing👌
Love It 😃😉👊
She is creepy. Not her natural voice... She had something change...
The Mad Money guy is giddy interviewing her
EXCELLENT! ❤❤
New subscriber here 🙋♀️🇬🇧 Amazing content.... thank you
I'm getting Mira Sorvino, Romy and Michele's High School Reunion, voice vibes😂 Elizabeth, if you would've spent as much time and effort actually TRYING to make something that worked and less time lying and scamming, you may have ACTUALLY saved the world! It's incredibly sad to me that you now have to see your children grow up behind bars. I hope you spend the rest of your life trying to become a better person.
Hey Playgirl 👋 are you coming to Las Vegas next month for the True Crime convention?
Is there really a true crime convention? 💗❤💗
@@deborahfidler2538 Yes there is April 28th- 1st
@@deborahfidler2538 Are You planning on coming to Las Vegas for the convention?How far away from Las Vegas do you live?
Thankyou
She and Clinton have similar business models
She looks like Chelsea
Thank you for the video!!!!
She is smart, that is a given. I mean she did come up with the concept of the blood drop idea. I think had it panned out differently she might have invented good things.she was a con woman or was she someone so convinced her product would work, she wouldn’t take no as an answer? I think her persona also shows that she wanted to be taken seriously. In the end she ended up a con woman but I don’t think this was her goal from the get go. Had this worked whe would have made even more billions. Heck I believed it when I saw it in the newspaper back then and was excited for it, thinking “yes, finally someone figured it out”…
The idea of a drop of blood was anything but smart. There a minimum requirements on volume for accurate testing. She was a con woman, liar and manipulator nothing more. Claiming it was ever going to be possible was nothing but a con.
"She is smart, that is a given," says who? Smart people know that "you can fool some people some of the time, but not all people all the time." EH thought that she could fool all people all the time, so smart she is not. Brazen liar, delusional she is.
The idea is irrelevant if it doesn't work based on the laws of physics. That is not an accomplishment. It is a joke. Smh
The reaction of the guy with knowledge (right to her) at 23:45 is priceless.
Jack Ma, former CEO of Alibaba, before Xi Jinpigsnout destroyed it.
I feel bad for the Stanford university professor who retired from teaching to join her board
Don't feel that bad for him. He was paid $500,000 a year with no real job. She paid him for his credentials.
@@henrywallacesghost5883 oh yeah... didn't know that... that's why he was so gitty
Greetings n Happy Sunday 😀👍💜
Where is all the IP? Like the electric car - this is not a technology the established industry wants.
I think “theranos” should be called “erroneous”
How is this even a question 🤣
Watching her straight face into cameras with those eyes makes me wonder if she may well not be human - same feeling I get with Mark Zuckerberg. Will we someday discover that transhumanism has moved beyond theory and is alive and well integrated into our world? She rarely blinks her eyes and they darn near look transparent. Additionally she appears to have no moral compass.
Lab work does not drive 80% of our decisions. History of the illness, followed by the physical exam, then labs and imaging. We choose the lab tests to order based on the history, physical, and demographic factors.
Hey Danielle 👋 how are you doing today?
aw i miss your old voice. Maybe just cus i was used to it so i’ll give this one a chance
Yeah she thought she was another Steve Jobs & mimicked him!😂😂😂😂😂😂
She gives me a creepy vibe. And why does she sound like Darth Vader?! 🙉
CON ARTIST all the way. Thank god no one was hurt doing this time.
Charming and captivating personality? Okaaaaaaaay lol
Tragic story. Especially in Women’s History Month.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree as we've seen here.
Gee, how many times has this story been told? Anything fresh here? No just old news over and over again.
See her voice has always been deep-
I feel petty saying this but….where is her hair brush! Is the messy birds nest look part of the con?
She's spending her prison sentence in a cosy open women's prison no remorse and laughing in her victims faces plus she's had 2 years of her sentence taken off
Bernie Madoff got 350 years in jail, she needs to go fot 10% of that, 35 years.
Her voice is so strange
The edison looks like a printer
THANK YOU.. DES CREAN,, BELFAST ,, IRELAND
Larry should have listened to his devs more... Maybe oracle products wouldn't be so trash
I guess it runs in the family...He..? What... You dont agree..? Enron/Holmes is just the same... Swindle!
She didn't get billions of dollars in funding. It was about 900m which is a lot but not billions.
"we would like to see a world were people would have the right to have access to this type of testing"...... those or moral and policy principles - completely irrelevant to the claimed functionality of technology itself.
All those subtitles at the beginning cover all that holmes did.
You didn't even mention the scamming of Walgreens. How could you forget that?
I believe that is covered in the next part, theres 3 videos in this series.
She faked her voice :P
CEO or con artist thier is no difference the mind is same thinking, selfish and ruthless
While showing a side of caring and convincing with charisma is what draws them in.
So both have same traits selfish and wealth.always sceaming to make a buck even while sleeping.
No such animal a passionate CEO..
Neither. She's a narcissist.
She doesn't look hynotizing to me, she looks like she wants to lure me into a van.
I wouldn't trust her with her background at all with investments, she just gives bad vibes all aroound
Yes, lures you into a van that would likely not work😂
ROTFL @ lure me into a van
How come you not doing the talky on the videos Megan?
Of course she's charming. Sociopaths spend years studying and developing superficial charm, to better move in society.
Ugh. That fake voice is excruciating.
Is that question directed at us, the viewers?
If yes, the answer is, a highly manipulative CON artist.
There is no relevance to this discussion any more. She is in prison.
Looks and sounds like a 13yr old boy
Her fake deep voice**
Ummm… Con Artist. Period.
Why carrying on when you knew from the start that it wasn’t going to work?
Yeah didn't this end up in some kind of scam or something I vaguely remember this story
Did you watch the video?
multiple errors in the first 3 minutes
theranos was a medical device/blood testing company...not a tech company
jobs didnt drop out of school to start apple...he dropped out of school because he chose to go to a very expensive liberal arts college, his parents couldnt afford it and he chose to be a bum
holmes' father worked in a number of industries, moving back and forth between the public and private sector...he was not unemployable after enron imploded, he went back into the public sector
and no...the family wasnt dead broke
and your narrative being told in a non-linear fashion is very confusing
if elizabeth holmes wasnt elizabeth holmes...with family connections to money and the government...her idea and company would have died on the vine
and she didnt come up with the idea...there were already a few companies who were working with microfluidics...and she poached employees from them
she was passionate about one thing...being rich and famous and trying to take a shortcut to both
Calling Steve Jobs a bum is absurd. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. What is it that you do? You should list your degrees, accomplishments, companies you have created, volunteer projects you are involved in etc. Your arrogant, patronizing comment is more than off-putting. I'm just making sure you know. 💀🤣
BTW after the Enron scandal was uncovered, her father, being VP lost his income and was broke. He lost their home and had to live in a friend's home rent free etc so that sounds pretty close to destitute to me.
@@sfletch3042 he wasnt flat broke. he needed to move back to dc to get back into public life. the housing market in dc is really bad, that is why he ended up in a friends home until he started the new gig. her father has never been unemployed for any great length of time. they paid her tuition to stanford...she didnt get any student loans...her parents were far from poor
@@sfletch3042 why dont you read jobs bio. he called himself a bum. he didnt have a job when he dropped out...he stuck around the university and audited classes. was jobs not friends with woz, he wouldve been a used car salesman
@@thewkovacs316 Your sentence sounded as if you were referring to him as a bum. My mistake. I know the basics of his story. He perhaps might have worked as a used car salesman for a time but there is no way he would have have stayed there lol. He is a visionary and would have done something great/smart/big regardless of who he did or did not meet.
...or passionate Con Artist!
given the state of the available technology, I predict that Holmes invention and ideas will be a reality except that the owners will be the usual few
It’s physically impossible
Neither, she was a weirdo.
honestly i don't really think she is smart. Its like saying im smart because i came up with an idea to land a man on the sun. I think the appropriate response to grandiose ideas is, " yes? well how the hell are you going to do that?"
On women a classic sociopath