Do you think AD and Lebron getting treated like any player on the lakers? Giannis , Steph, etc superstars get and will always get a different treatment. The snitch is a bigger problem in my opinion
@@stephbass1311I think the front office should be thanking the snitch. Superstars need external pressure and they need to be shamed in order to get them to change. Superstars are not above the law
@justinlong5589 her take makes no sense, a player shouldn't be leaking players only meeting. She wants to talk about Embid being late and that's not the real issue..
exactly. He is their best player, most important player, who they need to have a chance. This entire segment they are just giving excuses for embiid, except for the lovely lady.
It hadn't spread throughout the team because a player who wasn't even playing called him out which shows his work ethic as a young player. Joel Embiid March to the best of his own drum. His teammates ain't following him.
@@Fanofstuff278i mean as long as he does his job and averages 30 and 10 then it shouldn’t be a issue. A lot of players didn’t care about being punctual or being in shape for the season. Allen Iverson came out saying he would literally skip practices to go to clubs and parties, Harden did the same thing. Shaq and Barkley had body problems that didn’t really care about much. All these players still played mvp level basketball. As long as they perform, the extra curricular shouldn’t be above the on court performance.
No player is above the team. Cam saying “embiid deserves the right to be late.” What possessed him to say something as stupid as that. If Joe embiid would do his job and stop coming late, showing up on time this wouldn’t be a problem, and not missing so many games. That tells me that his teammates are questioning his worth ethic. It tells me after he got his money he doesn’t care anymore.
Have a hard time believing this season is the first time he been late to so called meeting . Only reason a bigger deal now is because there losing imo .
To be NFL QB, especially thos who win MVP and SB, are treated differently. It wont surprise me if Cam was late for team events as well after he won the MVP. Hell Aaron Rodgers was missing practice entirely, not just late. and nobody on the Jets was really calling him out on that.
@ see the difference between them is that Brady and Manning was there 30 minutes early and there after practice to get more reps in. Hell Tom Brady got kicked off a high school field because he was trying to build communication with his wide receivers. Tom Brady was winning super bowls and mvps and still never missed practice or showed up a late.
Remember when he said "what more do I have to do?" When losing MVP to Jokic? Now after winning it he has the audacity to be tardy while his team is struggling to even stay afloat. He got his bag, MVP and gold medal now he's ✌️
the bigger deal isn’t the leak or maxey calling out embiid, it’s the fact that embiid is more concerned with finding out who leaked it rather than taking accountability and correcting what tyrese said…all he gotta do is show up…
this clown PG instead of doing pod cast he should improve his game and get in shape. allthese divas on this team are done specially embiid..go celtics!!
Elle was the only one making complete sense. Theres a reason the Warriors are the example for team culture. Everyone buys in because of Steph. Nobody is telling him he needs to be on time to anything. Don't kill the messenger. Maxey isn't the problem.
Then why did the punch Draymond deliver to Jordan Poole leak then??? That’s the same team Steph plays on isn’t it??? There was even resentment that Steph should have been a better leader in that situation. This is one of the many reasons Klay has left!!!
@@SinaSohnot only that, but the employee that leaked it got fired LMAOOO. I’m not sure why people in the comments are trying to act like the leak itself is not a big deal.
That’s the only way you can get it one on one or word for word. It was probably from Maxie himself. Embid trash. Maxie want the spot. Kobe Shaq post rings era
Y'all talking about Joel embiid as if he's an NBA champion or something. Team hasn't sniffed an conference finals let alone in NBA finals. Joel has benefited from storylines always being about Simmons, Harden, Daryl Morey. Now the lights and the scrutiny is on him and he can't take it. Simple as that
He's Greg Oden with a longer career. People forget Greg was a menace on the rare occasion when he was healthy. Joel can fill up a box score, but that cat is about as sturdy as Mr. Glass....or Greg Oden.
Yeah they're crying about the leak itself, but from a fans perspective a player on a max contract that is habitually unprofessional in every aspect is way worse than the leak. Most people can relate to having a CEO or higher up executive constantly making terrible decisions that lead to chunks of the business getting laid off. Very similar situation. Joel's lack of production while earning max salary actively devalues and takes money out of the pockets of the lesser players on the team, but he also refuses to take accountability for how his actions hurt those around him.
It seems clear that Nick Nurse leaked it. In that case, it tells you how bad the problem with Embiid is. He has no way to influence him other than public shaming. This is full blown crisis mode for the 76ers, not because the leak, because the coach can't reach his star players without the leak.
@@nsd_respect I thought they said players and coaches met. It wasn't just players only if you saw the reports and Nick Nurse's comments after the game. There was mention of Lowry asking for players to be coached harder or something like that. It was the team present.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 if anything it’s the other way around. Kawhi works like crazy to try and come back from injury. Embiid is literally lazy who can’t even get his diet in check and comes out before the season saying I’m not playing any back to back games. What are we even talking about?
I do know Kyle Lowry was the player that called for that meeting. He was pissed at shoot around before the game and after the meeting. He also had a lot to say on the Sixer post-game local station.
I like how Cam said Joel Embid has earned the right to be late even though he’s never made it to a conference finals and can barely make it through a season..
It's great that this leak happened. Now, Embiid will be held accountable by everybody: fans, sponsors, media, and other NBA players. If he doesn't show true involvement, professionalism, and leadership, nobody will want him. Now, his career is on the line.
Nobody in this list can actually hold Joel accountable because they’re not close enough. The only thing anyone on this list can do is gossip or share their opinion but they’re usually so under-informed he’s likely to ignore them.
It WAS NOT a players-only meeting. The players called it, but the coaches were also present. That premise is essential and needs to be recognized in the conversation. There are quotes from both the coaches and the players.
Great contrast on the panel here. Elle--super direct, succinctly states her opinion, defends her unpopular stance with evidence and solid argumentation Cam--rambles, doesn't give any real analysis or opinion on the topic at hand, goes on a tangent to state the obvious
LMAO...and Nick Nurse didn't want to be part of the Raptors rebuild 😂 well guess what, Philly is in LAST PLACE and is careening towards 'blow it up and rebuild"
I disagree with cam. You getting paid 300 million $$… the least you can do is show up on time. Nobody who shows up on time or skips practice will ever be a winner. Period.
I'm sorry but, aren't they all assigning virtue to the leaker? "The only reason you'd do this is to expose Joel and denigrate his image". Or, maybe hear me out, isn't another possible virtue that this is just one teammates solution to light a fire under Joel? Also,Elle cooked.
you can stop Embiid but the problem is if someone stops him he just floops throwing himself to the floor and refs are to dmb to not call it or call it a floop
I know SAS didn't add Kobe's name on that list of players who would never snitch. Mamba was an all- time Great God rest his soul. One of the best to ever lace em up! But during his worst moment we also never forgot how he did Shaq.
Elle spitting facts.
Philly wants Embid out of there.
He needs to go
That’s it bud?! What about the Process? What was all that tanking and losing for?! LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yep, time for Cooper Flagg show baby!
@rudy1999 yes sir! Agreed! That guy is good man!
Shouldnt of Given him that contract
Why Cam looks like Turkey ready for Thanksgiving
A jive turkey
Explain in NBA terms
😂. Don’t do Cam like that
😂😂
🦃🤣🤣🤣
This girl spoke facts ellle maxey having to call u out is the big problem
Do you think AD and Lebron getting treated like any player on the lakers?
Giannis , Steph, etc superstars get and will always get a different treatment. The snitch is a bigger problem in my opinion
@@stephbass1311I think the front office should be thanking the snitch. Superstars need external pressure and they need to be shamed in order to get them to change. Superstars are not above the law
@@stephbass1311all those players you mentioned have done something Embid hasn’t. Won a championship what has embid done to deserve special treatment??
@@stephbass1311lol those players you mentioned win titles and are on time w no taking off just because. So can’t use them as a comparison.
Nit its maxey under 30% from 3
Elle makes the most sensible point on the panel
no shocker. she’s the most competent on that show
Na don’t be a leak dummy
Right she's also the only one that hasn't even played college sports
Cam and Ryan actually played and were in locker rooms … . And you say this 😂
@@oreoakalaperoji8314You also never played college sports.. and here you are giving your take.
Solid response bravo.
Elle dominated this segment hands down!!
Yeah being a snake is not a big deal to people like you
She does have a clue to what she talking about
@Ivanblock757 She's the Smartest woman on first take when she's on I know a woman with some sense is gonna be talking.
@justinlong5589 her take makes no sense, a player shouldn't be leaking players only meeting. She wants to talk about Embid being late and that's not the real issue..
You can only believe that if you have a soft spot for snitches, rats, and snakes
Why is Stephen A acting like he wouldn't love to report a locker room leak?
I like hearing juicy gossip, doesn’t mean I spread it or condone those that do lol
@@frankiestein78912 Stephen and his co-host job relies on leaked gossip.
because he didnt leak it.
He tried with KD..lol
probably bc that's not how he goes about his business plain and simple.
ik ik hard to image someone in the media has standards
SAS never fails to remind us he been covering the NBA for 30 years😅
SAS need to succinctly make his point, having to listen to SAS reiterate this many syllables, “I've been reporting for 30 years" loses viewers. Aedin
Well said. Aedin
Cam looks like a character from Alice in Wonderland 😂
He looks dumb
Just say it he looks like a clown 🤡
@@MS-yo8tyhe is mentally confused
Bruh 😂😂😂😂😂
@@MAE1977-just say you hate yourself
It’s even more important for your best player to be on time. Embiid’s behavior has spread across the team and he deserved to get called out.
exactly. He is their best player, most important player, who they need to have a chance. This entire segment they are just giving excuses for embiid, except for the lovely lady.
It hadn't spread throughout the team because a player who wasn't even playing called him out which shows his work ethic as a young player. Joel Embiid March to the best of his own drum. His teammates ain't following him.
Yeah because you know, you were there right and believe everything your told like a good little sheep.
@@Fanofstuff278i mean as long as he does his job and averages 30 and 10 then it shouldn’t be a issue. A lot of players didn’t care about being punctual or being in shape for the season. Allen Iverson came out saying he would literally skip practices to go to clubs and parties, Harden did the same thing. Shaq and Barkley had body problems that didn’t really care about much. All these players still played mvp level basketball. As long as they perform, the extra curricular shouldn’t be above the on court performance.
@@abtocool6350 Harden, Iverson and Barkley didn't win a chip. Coincidence? Maybe they should have cared a little more...........
No player is above the team. Cam saying “embiid deserves the right to be late.” What possessed him to say something as stupid as that. If Joe embiid would do his job and stop coming late, showing up on time this wouldn’t be a problem, and not missing so many games. That tells me that his teammates are questioning his worth ethic. It tells me after he got his money he doesn’t care anymore.
Have a hard time believing this season is the first time he been late to so called meeting . Only reason a bigger deal now is because there losing imo .
To be NFL QB, especially thos who win MVP and SB, are treated differently. It wont surprise me if Cam was late for team events as well after he won the MVP. Hell Aaron Rodgers was missing practice entirely, not just late. and nobody on the Jets was really calling him out on that.
@ see the difference between them is that Brady and Manning was there 30 minutes early and there after practice to get more reps in. Hell Tom Brady got kicked off a high school field because he was trying to build communication with his wide receivers. Tom Brady was winning super bowls and mvps and still never missed practice or showed up a late.
All superstars especially in the NBA are above the team.
Remember when he said "what more do I have to do?" When losing MVP to Jokic? Now after winning it he has the audacity to be tardy while his team is struggling to even stay afloat. He got his bag, MVP and gold medal now he's ✌️
the bigger deal isn’t the leak or maxey calling out embiid, it’s the fact that embiid is more concerned with finding out who leaked it rather than taking accountability and correcting what tyrese said…all he gotta do is show up…
So nice of Cam to let put on every piece of item each of his children wanted him to wear.
this clown PG instead of doing pod cast he should improve his game and get in shape. allthese divas on this team are done specially embiid..go celtics!!
Facts.
Elle was the only one making complete sense.
Theres a reason the Warriors are the example for team culture. Everyone buys in because of Steph. Nobody is telling him he needs to be on time to anything. Don't kill the messenger. Maxey isn't the problem.
The leak was the problem
Then why did the punch Draymond deliver to Jordan Poole leak then??? That’s the same team Steph plays on isn’t it??? There was even resentment that Steph should have been a better leader in that situation. This is one of the many reasons Klay has left!!!
@@SinaSohnot only that, but the employee that leaked it got fired LMAOOO. I’m not sure why people in the comments are trying to act like the leak itself is not a big deal.
Every one up there literally has a podcast talking about so called inside information. Media is really done
Especially Steven “close sources” A smith
Steven a tslking about lines not being crossed is crazy
He saying for players to leak it or someone in the sixers circle are crossing the line that's called infiltrating.
That’s the only way you can get it one on one or word for word. It was probably from Maxie himself. Embid trash. Maxie want the spot. Kobe Shaq post rings era
Is WILD
@@floydjones2236 not even close
@@Gmoney-yo2ly Got an answer for everything, huh?
This is shameful 🤦🏾♂️ Y’all making excuses for rampant unprofessionalism smh
Just like when they leaked that draymond punch 😂😂😂
Way different. That happened in an open gym where anybody could see and film. This was a players only meeting behind «closed doors».
@@kame99023that is true but it was still someone in the organization that leaked it
@@iamhorcruxera man got punched in the face its not the same
Cam out here lookin like a dam Scarecrow 😂😂😂
What the hell did Von Miller and the Broncos do to this man? 😂
Y'all talking about Joel embiid as if he's an NBA champion or something. Team hasn't sniffed an conference finals let alone in NBA finals.
Joel has benefited from storylines always being about Simmons, Harden, Daryl Morey. Now the lights and the scrutiny is on him and he can't take it. Simple as that
He's millionaire if he never wins a championship 😢
He is an MVP. LMAO, and SAS gave it to him
@@AVAXII😂😂😂 he is THE MOST EMBARRASSING MVP IN HISTORY
He's Greg Oden with a longer career. People forget Greg was a menace on the rare occasion when he was healthy. Joel can fill up a box score, but that cat is about as sturdy as Mr. Glass....or Greg Oden.
Solid take, I can totally see it
Stephen A Smith trying to spin like some Joel PR spokesperson is the exact reason why no one takes him seriously.
Wait didnt SAS go on a tour trashing Max Kellerman and spilling beans on the behind-the-scenes of that situation? The man's a habitual line crosser
If Embiid actually showed up on time there wouldn’t be anything to leak
Yeah they're crying about the leak itself, but from a fans perspective a player on a max contract that is habitually unprofessional in every aspect is way worse than the leak.
Most people can relate to having a CEO or higher up executive constantly making terrible decisions that lead to chunks of the business getting laid off. Very similar situation. Joel's lack of production while earning max salary actively devalues and takes money out of the pockets of the lesser players on the team, but he also refuses to take accountability for how his actions hurt those around him.
Captain Black Sparrow showed up in fashion
I’m dead.
Black Sparrow 😂😂😂
😂😂
Black?
@@Dark.RoomReviews Jack Sparrow. Black Sparrow. It rhymes. Cam is black. Come on man.
4:53 this lovely lady is speaking facts!!!
Elle is 200% on point
Nah Cuh we all know SAS would’ve leaked.
Stephen A-lot-of-sources Smith? He does not leak, he reports
@ I’ve genuinely never heard him cite an actual source in my entire life lol and that ain’t no hyperbole.
In case y’all missed it, Stephen A been covering the nba for 30 years
It seems clear that Nick Nurse leaked it. In that case, it tells you how bad the problem with Embiid is. He has no way to influence him other than public shaming. This is full blown crisis mode for the 76ers, not because the leak, because the coach can't reach his star players without the leak.
You did it with, Max!
How do we know Ty & his teammates didn't speak to him already behind close doors
You think Kobe late? LeBron? Steph? No
Cam looks like a grandma on Easter Sunday! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He really does!! 😂😂
Nick Nurse is the one who leaked it, you can tell from the quotes in the article from Shams
It was a PLAYERS-ONLY meeting.
He did!!! He has leaked stuff to media before.
@@nsd_respectpeople just talk straight out their ahh for no reason
@@nsd_respect I thought they said players and coaches met. It wasn't just players only if you saw the reports and Nick Nurse's comments after the game. There was mention of Lowry asking for players to be coached harder or something like that. It was the team present.
@@arnaldorivera4658 It was a team meeting, not a player's only.
Kobe violated locker room code when he snitched on Shaq
Facts!
Nah that’s that mamba mentality tho 💯💯💯
Stephen A Smith is disgrace for human being, he defends Embid like true pro, but atacks Kawhi everytime
Joel is out there trying to play through injury like usual and kawhi gets to say he’s out indefinitely.
did you call another man a disgrace for criticizing another grown man, ayo you good ?
Stephen A an idiot, crazy how he’s where he is at.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 if anything it’s the other way around. Kawhi works like crazy to try and come back from injury. Embiid is literally lazy who can’t even get his diet in check and comes out before the season saying I’m not playing any back to back games. What are we even talking about?
SAS a whole ho
Shout out Elle.... She's the only one who got it right
I can't take Cam seriously dressing like an Alice in Wonderland character.
Cam giving these players excuses
I do know Kyle Lowry was the player that called for that meeting. He was pissed at shoot around before the game and after the meeting. He also had a lot to say on the Sixer post-game local station.
KLo the best, dude just wants to win
I like how Cam said Joel Embid has earned the right to be late even though he’s never made it to a conference finals and can barely make it through a season..
Everytime I see Cam in that Smokey The Bear hat, I laugh 😂
She spoke the most sense out of all 3 of them
Sometimes the comments section is way more interesting than the segment, this is one such example.
SAS talks about this locker room code but his very job is to have people break it to him
It's great that this leak happened. Now, Embiid will be held accountable by everybody: fans, sponsors, media, and other NBA players. If he doesn't show true involvement, professionalism, and leadership, nobody will want him. Now, his career is on the line.
Nobody in this list can actually hold Joel accountable because they’re not close enough. The only thing anyone on this list can do is gossip or share their opinion but they’re usually so under-informed he’s likely to ignore them.
Shams is crazy good at his job .
Cams thoughts on this is the reason he not in the nfl
Cam saying that a player can earn laziness is absurd lmao.
PG leaked that bs 😂
😂
Wash up pg leak that information
Did you know SAS been covering locker rooms for almost 30 years?
Didn't he do this exact thing to Max Kellerman? Talking about conversations behind closed doors in podcasts and badmouthing him.
It WAS NOT a players-only meeting. The players called it, but the coaches were also present. That premise is essential and needs to be recognized in the conversation. There are quotes from both the coaches and the players.
Kobe violated that “locker room code” heavy
How?
@ saying publicly that shaq paid off women
@@Eoj24 he didn't say that public sir , that was a young black man being pressure by the police. Next
I love to see joel embid just walk up on set outta nowhere whole energy gone change 😂
6:30 how has Embiid earned the right? For regular season success? He has more to prove. Especially in a city like philly.
Great contrast on the panel here.
Elle--super direct, succinctly states her opinion, defends her unpopular stance with evidence and solid argumentation
Cam--rambles, doesn't give any real analysis or opinion on the topic at hand, goes on a tangent to state the obvious
LMAO...and Nick Nurse didn't want to be part of the Raptors rebuild 😂 well guess what, Philly is in LAST PLACE and is careening towards 'blow it up and rebuild"
Nurse is not a good rebuild coach though. His offense revolves around featuring a star player that can get buckets
it’s not about how you start the season it’s about how you finish.
I thought he got fired?
He did niggas be saying anything @@gemmel06
@@Diamondeffect😂
Cam Newton is just slowly morphing into Whoopie Goldberg.
lol
😂
😂😂😂😂
Cam look like he just came from a Texas longhorn steakhouse 😂😂😂
I disagree with cam. You getting paid 300 million $$… the least you can do is show up on time. Nobody who shows up on time or skips practice will ever be a winner. Period.
Nobody who shows up on time will ever be a winner? I know what you meant to say, but lol
Cam tellin on himself
SAS acting like he hasn’t gotten some of his best headlines from players “ crossing the line”😭
For all you casuals, Elle spoke the way it should be, Cam spoke on the way it really is.
I'm sorry but, aren't they all assigning virtue to the leaker? "The only reason you'd do this is to expose Joel and denigrate his image". Or, maybe hear me out, isn't another possible virtue that this is just one teammates solution to light a fire under Joel? Also,Elle cooked.
Dlo type energy
Spot on
Kevin Hart: Whooooooa! Somebody call a plumber...because you got a leak!
I ALWAYS ffw when Cam speaks 💀💀
Takes not the greatest....always one sided to defend the athletic and never admit when they are wrong. At least Draymond Green keeps it real✅✅✅✅
Valid points.
1. Keep it in the locker room
2. Be on time
3. Realize people get treated differently
Finally someone that makes sense
SAS wouldn't have a job if everything was kept in the locker room
Your barber pushed your line back Stephen A fire the barber 😂😂
An artist is only as good as his tools allow 🤣
😂😂 A Stephen A Smith Hairline Joke who's hairline has been that way since he was in college and is almost 60 😅So new so original
@@jonathanmuldrow8458 Stephen A. hairline jokes in big 2024🥶
@@nsd_respectbecause his hairline still fucked up in 2024
That's not how a haircut works
Cam newton commentary is meant for tv 🖥🔥🍿💯
7:32 lies, cap........... SAS making up stories because these former players are on the panel
The only liar here is you, boy! Stephen A stated facts, you can’t, Karen!
State your sources!!!
Naw, been following Stephen a. for years. He's 💯 because he actually talks to these players not just about them...
@@brianwright9215 Agreed.
My guy out here looking like Lenny Kravitz on Halloween
you can stop Embiid but the problem is if someone stops him he just floops throwing himself to the floor and refs are to dmb to not call it or call it a floop
What line was crossed ?! DUDE!? JUST SHOW UP ON TIME 😂😂😂
Who invited Stephen A. Smiths grandma
Completely disagree with Cam here, nobody "EARNS THE RIGHT" not to show up
NN and Lowry want to see Embiid cry again...lol
😂
Lowry showed up for Hallowe'en in a Marc Gasol mask and Embiid was piiiiised.
Probably.
And PG showed up with a Kawhi Leonard costume playing his laugh for Embiid to hear lmao
Cam looks like he had a Netflix fight with a Turkey and the Turkey won
Somebody in the locker room snitching
Tobias Harris
lmaoo
Pg leak that information
@@TashaOneal-z3pno he didn’t it was Aron Gordon
Eric Gordon wouldn’t shock me
LMAO nick nurse is the one who was late to the press conference and stated they had a meeting
Man get KP back in the show. What are these football players doing here.
6:58 I was thinking that whole time 😂
Erned the right? What has Embid done to earn the right? He just played longer but half of it he's hurt
Agree, and the man comes up small in the playoffs
Keep that same energy with wash pg he leak that information
Paul George: "I have no idea how this leaked but let's talk about it...right after a word from our sponsor Draft Kings!"
Only thing Philly can hold onto is that they’re in the EC and there’s a play-in tournament.
They’ll be out in the first round again lol
I swear to God, I never know if it’s Cam Newton or Eryka Badu 😂
Dam u can’t say snitch on TV?? 0:29
They say it later on
It's pos
Not what was said😂
I wonder if Stephen A knows the unnamed source. 😂
Embiid needs to be traded immediately he was injury prone all throughout his 20s now he is in his 30s and his body only getting worse
Cam look like Jack Sparrow and Andre 3000 had a kid
Prob was the dancing kid from Duke with the pink nails… And let’s see who this offends in 4..3..2..1
What’s funnier than seeing who’ll get offended, is seeing you reach this hard to try to offend somebody. 😂
@ yooo that was hilarious… my stomach hurts.. It’s Friday… getting your nails done playboy?
@@j-sklz Yeah, while ya mama sucking me off.
@@j-sklzhe is DEFINITELY getting his nails done based off his response. It’s ok Darius. BE YOU😂😂
@ 😅😅😅😅
Joel hasnt earned anything, 1 MVP does not a career make. Although I understand why Cam wish that was the case.
I like how Ryan Clark talked.
Who knew the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland was also knowledgable about sports?
I appreciate Steven A getting Willy Wonka to come up here and talk about hoop.
why are these reporters covering for Embiid instead of holding responsible for not being a leader... *sigh*
Elie is right bigger issue is your star player being late when the team is so down
Stephen A opening comment
I have been covering the nba for 30 years 😂😂😂😂😂……. Like bruh it’s okay
We knw
We don’t need the constant reminder
The fact embiid is showing up late gives me joy as a bucks fan. Giannis would never. He is the one calling out others for being lazy. Thank you joel
I know SAS didn't add Kobe's name on that list of players who would never snitch. Mamba was an all- time Great God rest his soul. One of the best to ever lace em up! But during his worst moment we also never forgot how he did Shaq.