Touring An Abandoned Victorian Home Ready For Renovation | Architectural Digest

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • Today on AD we visit Goshen in Upstate New York to tour a Victorian home from 1892 with a ton of potential, but needing lots of work. Contractor Nick Schiffer from NS Builders goes room by room laying out the possibilities within the walls while acknowledging how daunting the road to this former gem’s restoration will be. When you see it’s listed at just under $300,000, though - and similar sized homes in the area fetch double that amount - this massive renovation becomes one seriously worth considering.
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  • @visualistener
    @visualistener 2 года назад +3681

    AD, please don’t let this project go! So many of us would love to see updates and a final grand reveal. The house is gorgeous and this person really seems to know what he’s talking about while respecting the history and beauty of the home, definitely keep him! Thank youuuuu! This was great!

    • @NSBuilders
      @NSBuilders 2 года назад +85

      I hear someone bought it, hopefully they see this video.

    • @chaank1069
      @chaank1069 2 года назад +2

      agreed

    • @TheUniversesDaughter
      @TheUniversesDaughter 2 года назад +3

      for real!!

    • @seabreeze4559
      @seabreeze4559 2 года назад +18

      he doesn't, the humidity of that shower unit will cause the turret to collapse

    • @walterbrunswick
      @walterbrunswick 2 года назад +33

      @@seabreeze4559 that's where he lost me... who in their right mind needs a shower THAT big, for daily use!? plus imagine having to wipe down daily or cleaning it...... completely irrational and impractical

  • @heloise5931
    @heloise5931 2 года назад +1913

    I love how the contractor is not about tearing everything down to replace it with plain white. He really tries to understand the soul of the building to make it thrive again. Anyone working with him would make a excellent decision !

    • @NSBuilders
      @NSBuilders 2 года назад +50

      Not everything can or should be saved but I felt like this house really deserved it.

    • @sjastram
      @sjastram 2 года назад +14

      Yeah, he and I would go the rounds over the kitchen. Nope nope nope

    • @mikaelb.2070
      @mikaelb.2070 2 года назад +73

      Lol, he explicitly talks about tearing down and replacing it with white.

    • @mind-of-neo
      @mind-of-neo 2 года назад +12

      @@mikaelb.2070 Literally

    • @Meelameels
      @Meelameels 2 года назад +32

      He literally said to replace the walls with white

  • @HarrietEsi
    @HarrietEsi 2 года назад +1404

    Day-dreaming about purchasing this house and renovating it into a masterpiece.

    • @NSBuilders
      @NSBuilders 2 года назад +17

      Would really be something special

    • @j.b.9581
      @j.b.9581 2 года назад +9

      Meeee toooo !! I was raised in a 2600 square foot house from the 1860's and my soul has craved to be in another noble older house ever since!!

    • @pollytiks3885
      @pollytiks3885 2 года назад +4

      You and me, both!!

    • @graceamerican3558
      @graceamerican3558 2 года назад +1

      Same here.

    • @kellyroth3512
      @kellyroth3512 2 года назад +2

      Yeeessss! Come be my neighbor! Goshen is a great place to live.

  • @gilliantopaz97
    @gilliantopaz97 2 года назад +726

    Would love to see this renovated with respect to its history and character. I always cringe when I see beautiful old homes with all the walls knocked down, covered in plain white everything and hideous modern fixtures.

    • @clwt4075
      @clwt4075 2 года назад +44

      Agreed. And a lot of the walls are knocked down and everything is just so boring and white

    • @HattieMcDanielonaMoon
      @HattieMcDanielonaMoon 2 года назад +55

      Then they should restore it instead of renovating it

    • @LawnOrnament
      @LawnOrnament 2 года назад +19

      RETWEEEET LMAO yea it physically hurts to watch all of that craftsmanship get washed away

    • @lindaraterink6451
      @lindaraterink6451 2 года назад +6

      @@HattieMcDanielonaMoon They should..

    • @dima97
      @dima97 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I agree. If you don't like that, then don't go to berlin. It's like that EVERYWHERE. Still lots of cool old buildings though that survived world war 2

  • @kevinshinn9888
    @kevinshinn9888 2 года назад +781

    This house was my Aunt and Uncle's . I remember it very well. Above the fireplace in the parlor on the left was a stained glass window. On the right was the other parlor. Behind the steps was the study. The blue room with the glass wall, that didn't exist than, the dining. It was decorated in high Victorian splendor. The whole of the exterior was painted white. Happy to see someone preserving the house!

    • @clwt4075
      @clwt4075 2 года назад +62

      Cap

    • @andrewchattaway9384
      @andrewchattaway9384 2 года назад +86

      I used to live in Goshen and remember this house very well. I would pass by it frequently and saw work going on in the outside to get back to the brick finish. Great to see inside and very happy to see it being renovated with sensitivity to the original design.

    • @HattieMcDanielonaMoon
      @HattieMcDanielonaMoon 2 года назад +6

      @@clwt4075 What do you mean?

    • @giuliagiraffe
      @giuliagiraffe 2 года назад +46

      @@HattieMcDanielonaMoon “cap” is a way of saying “you’re lying”

    • @HattieMcDanielonaMoon
      @HattieMcDanielonaMoon 2 года назад +11

      @@giuliagiraffe Oh, thank you.

  • @foleywilliams5605
    @foleywilliams5605 2 года назад +544

    I work across the street from this home and I have always loved it. I fantasize Monday-Friday about renovating it. This home has been neglected and abandoned for years. I really hope someone gives it all the love it needs. The negatives for this beautiful home is that it has 0 privacy, almost no land, it’s situated on a very very busy road, and the views for the front of the home is a hideous government center.

    • @bennyboiart7781
      @bennyboiart7781 2 года назад +87

      That’s a pity, but I wonder if planting some hedges around the perimeter of the property would (in the long run) provide adequate privacy?

    • @charliestuff3684
      @charliestuff3684 2 года назад +8

      Lol it seems like it has quite a bit of property but I’m from Chicago so idk

    • @Secretzstolen
      @Secretzstolen 2 года назад +10

      Yea considering I'm in a city where space is super premium the yard for this home looks amazing lolll

    • @BB-pm2uh
      @BB-pm2uh 2 года назад +10

      What kind of business was there before (re:glass wall)?

    • @Cathy-xi8cb
      @Cathy-xi8cb 2 года назад +6

      Yes, some of the negatives mentioned are visible. I would never pour this kind of money into this home. Ever.

  • @DivineSource444
    @DivineSource444 2 года назад +67

    If you want to live in a modern home, buy a modern home. Antique homes should be restored to original as much as possible. Please stop destroying these beautiful homes.

    • @therod7446
      @therod7446 2 месяца назад +3

      Couldn't Agree More!

    • @dadboyrob
      @dadboyrob 14 дней назад +3

      There’s a balance to be achieved between preservation and practicality. Do you really want to keep steam radiator heating systems? How about those air-leaky windows? Renovations and alterations must be done with preservation in mind while simultaneously providing greater comfort/ efficiency.

  • @lucettacole4617
    @lucettacole4617 2 года назад +235

    That two story tower would make a beautiful library room. Curved shelves and a rolling ladder to reach the top would work wonderfully, or possibly a ladder staircase up to a loft that is accesses the second story bookshelves. It would be a fantastical touch that would suit the Victorian home style and would bring joy to the next owners for a long long time.

    • @carlcrossgrove9009
      @carlcrossgrove9009 2 года назад +12

      I love your idea! Some variations once my imagination got going: A spiral staircase in the center which provides access to books all along every wall.... Or, spiral stairs around the perimeter, lined with books, a secret closet in the middle and a brightly-lit reading room at the top. What a house this is!

    • @kistenlain7540
      @kistenlain7540 2 года назад

      Excellent suggestion! I really hope the renovation is completed & posted…. What a magnificent property!

    • @tjp2109
      @tjp2109 2 года назад +5

      Same here. I wasn't too fond of the bathroom in the turret idea. It just didn't seem functional and putting in a master bathroom elsewhere would be more realistic IMHO.

    • @christophermorin9036
      @christophermorin9036 Год назад +1

      I have always imagined of owning a home with a tower library. One possibly large enough to have benches built into the shelving so that I can take a book off the shelf and sit in a window to read.

    • @colors6692
      @colors6692 Год назад +1

      To be fair this "Mansion" looks to have been "Designed" by a five year old! It's a mishmash of everything🤢

  • @pm2886
    @pm2886 2 года назад +120

    Beautiful mansion. Two things - open concept kitchens are gradually losing favour , so it may be unwise to create one at this point. Especially in a heritage home, where so much of the original material would be lost. Kitchens are slowly moving to something like a large separate room, but which also contains a kitchen dining suite, and perhaps a breakfast nook or a couple of armchairs next to a fireplace. An all in one kitchen and keeping room, but which is separate from the living or family room. A true cook's domain, as it were. And lastly, those beautiful Victorian bricks have been very badly mortared, with what looks like cement. That won't breathe. It needs to be scraped out and replaced with lime mortar, then pointed. Doesn't look like any pointing has been done - or it was carelessly covered by that ugly mortar.

    • @mistypotato7500
      @mistypotato7500 2 года назад +12

      I agree 100%. Mortar looks like cement, which is a major problem and open concept kitchen in a victorian is a no-go.

    • @dittohead7044
      @dittohead7044 Год назад +8

      Totally agree. More people I know are opting for separate spaces. It’d ruin this home - much too modern

    • @averyleider
      @averyleider Год назад

      This could be my son and daughter in laws house!

    • @rosameryrojas-delcerro1059
      @rosameryrojas-delcerro1059 Год назад +12

      Agreed, if I was going to live in a Victorian house I wouldn't want it to look Ikea inside. I would want it to look like a Victorian inside.

    • @johnnyrocket4357
      @johnnyrocket4357 Год назад +2

      I have never liked the open kitchen concept....the entire house fills with a lingering smell/odor as soon as someone begins to cook something. It is similar to an office building with the break room located close to your office or desk. You always know when someone burns the popcorn.

  • @CountanceD
    @CountanceD 2 года назад +23

    It’s such a common practice now to install a kitchen island. It can be a great option for a new house. It doesn’t feel appropriate for an older house, in my opinion. We recently completed a kitchen remodel of our 1874 home. Rather than an island, we have a very large kitchen table. It could seat 6 comfortable. It serves as an additional workspace and allows for different height work surfaces. It makes the kitchen seem timeless rather that part of a new remodel.

    • @amymariko
      @amymariko Год назад +4

      So smart! And I'm always for dual purpose solutions :)

  • @keosh777
    @keosh777 2 года назад +58

    I lived in a 6000 sq ft Victorian in the 70s-80s. This brings back wonderful memories.

  • @heidi.a.thomson
    @heidi.a.thomson 2 года назад +223

    This house has a history. Would be interesting to see plans for when it was first built and to see the details of the rooms. Even to know who has lived there. So much seems to have been lost from the house's original state. I hope that there will be a follow up. This house has so much potential.

    • @WWZenaDo
      @WWZenaDo 2 года назад +4

      I would love to see someone restore the house as closely as possible to its original look and room arrangement. Unfortunately the need for updated electrical wiring, plumbing, and safety concerns about the flues for the many fireplaces would necessitate changes.

  • @78vette11
    @78vette11 2 года назад +36

    Even in its state of disrepair, this home is so beautiful and has a lot of potential

  • @chuckandmax7313
    @chuckandmax7313 2 года назад +89

    This house needs a formal dining room as well as a butlers pantry the way it was originally the kitchen can have a breakfast room connected to it but if I lived in a Victorian house like this I would not want to entertain in my kitchen. I don’t live in the kitchen in a 4000 sq ft home, I cook in the kitchen and entertain in the formal rooms. Someone has really ruined this house and your modern innovations are not going to enhance the natural beauty and charm of this home. Painting it all white and trying to make a modern home out of it is a bastardization of a period home. And by the way it was very common to have double fluted flus on chimneys with windows above the mantle, take for example the famous Carson Mansion it has the same thing. Not keeping the historical windows and putting in new windows is a crime as well. If you look at the King Estate or the Magic Chef mansions or the Campbell house, they have all been restored and kept as original as possible and those homes are period accurate and very livable. If you live in a mansion you change the way you live and this beauty needs to be done right.

    • @lindaraterink6451
      @lindaraterink6451 2 года назад +4

      Thank you!

    • @Calayna1
      @Calayna1 2 года назад +2

      Wish they would pin your comment! YES TO EVERYTHING YOU SAID!

    • @marybethciandella9518
      @marybethciandella9518 2 года назад +8

      I cringed when he said "paint it out in white to feel more modern" also!! Plain white walls don't belong in a house like this. I live an 1890 victorian and thank god all the time that we couldn't afford to change out the windows!! We were brainwashed like everyone else to think windows need to be new! Old houses with original windows are something amazing! They should be appreciated.
      The shower room in the turret??? The expense of getting plumbing into there?? And changing those wondows?? Why???
      All that said he didn't ruin everything as badly as I thought he would when the video started. Lol. He has SOME respect dor what was there so bravo to that.

    • @wsa18
      @wsa18 2 года назад +2

      It was kind of polar, on one hand he seems to like and want to preserve the nature of this house on another hand he takes a very commercial view on modernity and wants to apply it here. We'll it's the easy way, the cost might go up exponentially when involving an architect with consideration and knowledge to historic architecture. Sadly, that's not what most would do or could afford

    • @katherinebopp2021
      @katherinebopp2021 2 года назад +1

      Clearly You are from St Louis. I have been on many house tours and I thought the windows above the fireplace were unusual. Compton Heights is my favorite neighborhood.

  • @jobrownsmith116
    @jobrownsmith116 2 года назад +29

    He was so calm when he stuck his hand up the fireplace to see if it was in working order and said, ''Might have a animal up it, but it does look like it's active.'' He didn't even flinch! Wt_, I'd be running out of the room, 😂.

    • @mariao2091
      @mariao2091 Год назад +3

      I was looking for this comment HAHA ikr?!?? Wtf lol

  • @Abcflc
    @Abcflc 2 года назад +180

    If this house were to be restored to its original splendour with some modern updates, it would definitely be worth a couple million. However, trying to impose the open kitchen plan seems a little ridiculous. I even dislike when large houses have open kitchens- which makes sense in smaller places. You can have inviting, separated spaces without sacrificing character.

    • @JP-lu9ed
      @JP-lu9ed 2 года назад +16

      Agree about the kitchen. Not everyone wants the open kitchen and that seems at odds with the rest of the house. But the rest of his vision seems thoughtful and lovely.

    • @wickedwonderland9831
      @wickedwonderland9831 2 года назад +13

      And, as someone that grew up in an old house, think about heating all that! Especially with the high ceilings and the hall basically passing through the kitchen area.

    • @dary2905
      @dary2905 2 года назад +11

      As someone who grew up in small closed kitchen…hearing the idea of an open kitchen actually fascinated me. Specially if you’re the type of person who cooks and have a family, it is really changing…as he said in modern day, the kitchen is one of the primary places where one hangs out…specially as a family.

    • @Abcflc
      @Abcflc 2 года назад +20

      @@MeganFarrell I think some people want to justify the lack of privacy as a modern behaviour., when it´s their personal preference. I for instance, dislike open spaces: kitchen smells go into the living room, you can hear the tv from the dinning area.. I just do not like living like that. I love closed kitchens that have an island or bar to have guests while one cooks. It has nothing to do with servitude. You can also have a specific interior design idea for each space and the house is more energy efficient.

    • @DavidZwarych
      @DavidZwarych 2 года назад +5

      @@Abcflc I agree the fantasy of a Great Room with kitchen, dining, and living room where the family "lives" is a strong dream. But after I lived this for 20yrs, it actually is a nightmare. Cooking makes noise! You cant lounge peacefully until everyone leaves. The noise of metal cutlery on granite counters is as irritating as someone talking on a cell phone with speaker on.
      A missing element of designing a completely new space like this is living here for a year or two. Learn the patterns of light and sound for yourself, not buying a "Designers" dream pitch. Two story turret shower! Ha!
      Architecture and Interior Design is fundamentally flawed without a peer review and staged feedback system. Frank Lloyd Wright never enjoyed 20yrs of summers at Bear Run, Kauffmans did...so would never have chosen to live "on" the rocky waterfall. Complete failure by Wright, but he suffered no consequences, only praise for his design. Good luck!

  • @sammyjo8109
    @sammyjo8109 2 года назад +68

    So basically this is going to be a flip home. Would be wonderful to see a proper renovation of this home and bring back it's original charm and beauty.

  • @noface5864
    @noface5864 2 года назад +37

    if i'm going to renovate this house, i woudn't change it's exterior design at all...just cleaning up will do as it's already gorgeous 😍

    • @AAdams-rm5vz
      @AAdams-rm5vz 2 года назад +19

      Agreed, the Juliet balcony idea is not appropriate since historic exteriors should be preserved intact, there should be respect for historical design. Just like you don’t paint new clothes or accessories on a classic museum painting. His ideas to restore the porch rail to something period appropriate in place of the mod concrete block and get rid of those new replacement colonial windows are right on the mark though.

    • @eloisebates7827
      @eloisebates7827 2 года назад +3

      On the first floor, when he mentioned putting in a "slider, " I almost spit my coffee.

  • @carolinekessinger5809
    @carolinekessinger5809 2 года назад +16

    I wish they would focus on restoring the homes original features rather than renovating it. Before we know it, there will be no original beautiful Victorian homes for us to cherish

  • @curiousworld7912
    @curiousworld7912 2 года назад +139

    It's a gorgeous old home, but I have to wonder if this idea of 'open concept' is something that's going to last. I know those with open concept homes who now regret the decision, as dirty dishes, cooking smells, privacy - all these things seem to work against the idea. But, I think you can make a modern-living home, while respecting the architecture throughout. (I'd also put a 'witches' cap on the turret.)

    • @AAdams-rm5vz
      @AAdams-rm5vz 2 года назад +36

      I agree! I love the distinct spaces in my historic house and have kept all the kitchen’s accessory rooms intact - the butler’s pantry, the broom closet, the food pantry. They function beautifully as they were designed and keep the kitchen looking clutter free and neat. I had an open concept kitchen in a prior new home and was glad to leave it behind and move into an historic space that is “compartmentalized”. Also, if these developers and flippers buy an historic house they should have respect for the historic design and not try to make it a 2020 house, or whatever is in fashion at the time, leave that for new builds. The layout of an old house is part of its charm and history and should be respected as much as possible.

    • @curiousworld7912
      @curiousworld7912 2 года назад +27

      @@AAdams-rm5vz There's renovation, and there's restoration, and I think most developers and flippers tend to renovate old houses, more often than not, while few actually 'restore' the home. As you say; those built-ins were put there for a reason, and which still serve nicely. If I wanted 'modern', I'd buy a newer home - conversely; if I chose a historic home, I would want it to be restored in a manner respectful of the architecture - while still being practical for today's needs. And, it's just my preference, but when I'm cooking, I don't necessarily want 25 people in the room with me. Nor do I want to smell last night's fish the following day, as I read or watch TV from the adjacent living area. :)

    • @curiousworld7912
      @curiousworld7912 2 года назад +7

      @@SubwayDynamite I've heard of some new houses which, incredibly, have two kitchens - one to actually cook in, and one to 'present' the finished dishes. (I think the 'presentation kitchens' maybe have an oven and/or microwave, but nothing that would allow a mess to show.) Good grief... I can't decide whether that makes me want to laugh, or to just break something. :)

    • @zacharyhenderson2902
      @zacharyhenderson2902 2 года назад +11

      To be fair, you can't reasonably create an open concept with this house anyway; about half the walls are load-bearing and this particular example has had so many additions that many of the formerly exterior walls now separate rooms

    • @pricklypear7516
      @pricklypear7516 2 года назад +9

      The Victorians had a weird phobia about cooking smells. Notice in old books the references to the homes of the "lower classes" being permeated by food odors (often cabbage). So the higher one's status, the more such odors were confined to the kitchen. But much as I love large, inviting kitchens, I think the historic integrity of the place should be retained. And as soon as he said "island," I just yelled "No! No! NO!!!"

  • @annamiotello4118
    @annamiotello4118 2 года назад +129

    This house is so beautiful and has so much character! I really hope somebody buys it and takes care of it without disregarding all those beautiful original victorian features.
    I also like the contractor's approach to the renovation. The only thing I disagree with is the kitchen renovation plan. I would maintain the dining and kitchen separation. I know it's not common practice in the US anymore and everyone wants an open plan kitchen, but I feel like it would be too jarring to make such a modern adjustment to this historic home.

    • @faeriesmak
      @faeriesmak 2 года назад +17

      As someone with an 1883 home with a separate dining and kitchen I totally agree.

    • @Kaletiel
      @Kaletiel 2 года назад +16

      That was the moment I hit the dislike button. A dining room is a dining room, and depriving the house of the majesty of one just takes away from its history. Besides, old houses big enough to warrant servants usually had a kitchen big enough to fit the bill for being called an eating kitchen anyway, so for more informal gatherings the original kitchen would probably serve perfectly fine for what he argues.

    • @Tadfafty
      @Tadfafty 2 года назад +14

      I hate open kitchen plans. If the only houses I can buy are open kitchen plan, I will add my own wall.

    • @ItsAsparageese
      @ItsAsparageese 2 года назад +7

      @@Kaletiel Not that a channel this large will suffer from it, but hitting a dislike on an entire video and thus discouraging RUclips from showing it to others who might enjoy it, just because your personal tastes differ on _one_ idea presented, seems like a really petty weird choice. The dislike button isn't an "I have a differing preference and I want to grab at some tiny fragment of power about my opinion" button, it's a "this is a bad video that doesn't deliver what it promises or is otherwise dishonest or unreasonable in some way" button.

    • @Sheskis
      @Sheskis 2 года назад +6

      @@ItsAsparageese
      Who are you to decide why one would hit the dislike button?

  • @penelopesparrow
    @penelopesparrow 2 года назад +80

    Really hope whoever restores this does *not* put a wet room in that turret. With all the space up there you can easily fit a big, luxurious bathroom. Keep the turret as a turret - after all it's one of the main characteristics of the house, that upper woodwork is fantastic. With all that space why would you want to cram into a circular closet to shower? Wet rooms are for desperate times, not mansions. Also doesn't need a balcony; keep the original windows as it doesn't look like you'd get serenity or privacy.

    • @KalisaFox
      @KalisaFox Год назад +3

      i would love to turn that turret into a small reading room with a ladder to get to the higher levels for places to relax and take in the views, would certainly not keep it as a bathroom or turn it into a shower which seems like a huge waste.

    • @cindyholliman2575
      @cindyholliman2575 Год назад +2

      I think the turret should be a sitting rm inside master unless you need a nursery

    • @sandym8787
      @sandym8787 Год назад

      I stopped watching it at that point , I havn't changed my 1924 house at all , I don't modernize my antique furniture , why would I modernize my adorable house ..

  • @cgcohen01
    @cgcohen01 2 года назад +13

    I was just about to comment “No!!!!! Don’t make that entire turret the bathroom.” And then he elaborated on making it a wet room and THAT is a FANTASTIC idea!!!!! I like the way this guy thinks!

    • @cheriekalel9578
      @cheriekalel9578 2 года назад +6

      I was wondering if the entire turret could be made into a spiral library. It would be a waste for a bathroom. Make the bathroom next to the closet area, maybe.

    • @pricklypear7516
      @pricklypear7516 2 года назад +5

      @@cheriekalel9578 Turning that gorgeous turret into a bathroom is just dim. The rooms are large enough to accommodate such facilities elsewhere. The turret should be used for something whimsical, charming, and unique.

    • @cheriekalel9578
      @cheriekalel9578 2 года назад +2

      @@pricklypear7516 EXACTLY!!

    • @paulkoester9242
      @paulkoester9242 Год назад

      What does a wet room mean?

  • @ernshaw78
    @ernshaw78 2 года назад +13

    I would love to see a full period sensitive renovation as to respect the design and the original intended plan.

  • @anthonyd9844
    @anthonyd9844 2 года назад +25

    I really hope we get to come along on the journey of this home's renovation. AD please continue this as a mini series! The bones of this house are amazing, can't wait to see what happens next.

  • @gsdalpha1358
    @gsdalpha1358 2 года назад +30

    Our 1895 home is very much like that, albeit half the size. We even have the turret :-) And throughout the house under the floors and (we think) in the walls are metal pipe runs which supplied gas lights. We worked on it for 7 years - and are still adding little details. One thing not covered in this video: wiring, plumbing, heating and air. We had to give up some space in a downstairs bath and home office to run plumbing and HVAC ductwork upstairs. What shape is the basement in - drainage issues, for example? I'd love to see progress on this project!

  • @whitrobinson
    @whitrobinson 2 года назад +20

    The architecture is so gorgeous it hurts! Would love to see this beauty fully restored. Absolutely stunning bones!

  • @SeekoGT
    @SeekoGT 2 года назад +219

    I like this as a series. Great idea. Looking forward to seeing more.

  • @juliantotriwijaya9208
    @juliantotriwijaya9208 2 года назад +11

    "People want to sit around the kitchen, they want to socialize, that's the way they live", welp, not me or my family, our house are compartmentalized. Our home is a little old fashioned, but we like it that way, we don't like people seeing our work/cooking, it feels uncomfortable, it's like drawing while your friend watching it, we want them to see the result/food.

    • @FromSagansStardust
      @FromSagansStardust Год назад

      I believe the kitchen belongs IN the kitchen too, and not spilling into other rooms! I don't want to see the kitchen from the couch!

  • @src4409
    @src4409 2 года назад +8

    A "mud room" would never have been in the front of this house back when this was built. People wanted to hide their mess and wanted their wealth seen up front.

  • @matjb
    @matjb 2 года назад +44

    My dream is to remodel one of these. That's one of my goals in life. I'd like to keep all the intricacies and not turn it into a minimalist nightmare like everyone does nowadays. It's so sad seeing these beautiful homes abandoned.

    • @donaldanderson4489
      @donaldanderson4489 2 года назад

      .

    • @danirusso469
      @danirusso469 2 года назад +4

      If you haven't, check out "The Second Empire Strikes Back" here on youtube. He and his fiance are doing just that, and it's wonderful to watch.
      I hate seeing folks wanting to strip these old homes of their quirkiness and charm - I'm currently having to undo that sort of "renovation" on my own old home.

    • @MothGirl007
      @MothGirl007 Год назад

      @@danirusso469 I'm glad you're undoing it.

  • @NSBuilders
    @NSBuilders 2 года назад +92

    I loved this house so much, such an awesome location and great potential.

    • @cargogh
      @cargogh 2 года назад +6

      Sweet to see you on AD. Always been a fan your channel. Wish you would take on this project.

    • @lorenwil
      @lorenwil 2 года назад +2

      This was a nice little holiday treat to see you partnered with AD. Well done!

    • @NSBuilders
      @NSBuilders 2 года назад +3

      Thanks Loren

    • @lachlanbuckley554
      @lachlanbuckley554 2 года назад +1

      Love this project and the presenter! More plz

    • @parkwayconcepts8758
      @parkwayconcepts8758 2 года назад

      We want to see you remodel it! Those fireplaces are really cool

  • @swwly
    @swwly 2 года назад +52

    This is one of the most in-depth and knowledgeable videos I've seen in a long time. Thank you for posting something that goes beyond the instant gratification style home makeover videos that bounce from before to demo day to after without actually teaching us anything. More of these please!!

    • @jenniferlawrence9473
      @jenniferlawrence9473 2 года назад +3

      It's alright, but I'd rather see more of the house and less of the guy yacking the entire time.

  • @MauriceMercado
    @MauriceMercado 2 года назад +13

    Wow...we just moved to Goshen and love it here. It's a beautiful town. It's literally a Hallmark Christmas town. My wife and I see this house all the time. We would love to be able to see this house as a Bed and Breakfast in town. If we had the money we would totally do it.

  • @aliceavery4356
    @aliceavery4356 2 года назад +38

    love this format & how knowledgeable the expert was- make this a series please!!

  • @thesecondcoming5875
    @thesecondcoming5875 2 года назад +142

    Not even 5 minutes in and just Wow...The details...the ceiling's...Such a BEAUTIFUL home...Thank you for sharing.✌

  • @Matt-ln1zl
    @Matt-ln1zl 2 года назад +7

    I would switch the master bath and closet so that the ladder/staircase in the turret can be retained

  • @1834RestorationHouse
    @1834RestorationHouse 2 года назад +4

    It would be nice to see the sheetrock ripped out and replaced with good plaster!

  • @samanthaa.1565
    @samanthaa.1565 2 года назад +7

    this house is so beautiful and i hope whoever ends up working on this home is as smart and thoughtful as this guy is!!

  • @lindacade3975
    @lindacade3975 2 года назад +8

    It's amazing the house still exists and hasn't been demolished in the name of progress. I'd like to see the back staircase remain as part of the building's charm and also increase the kitchen as suggested but flipped so it's closer to the dining room but with a butler's pantry in between. The opposite end of the kitchen could have a utility/mudroom/half bath along that exterior wall exiting to the patio in the back. Anyway.....just keeping this treasure around is fantastic.

  • @kylemeade106
    @kylemeade106 2 года назад +24

    I have lived near this house for my whole life, and it has been in this state for at least 20 years, if not more. It has gone through multiple owners who have all started renovations then left it to rot. The town is wonderful and historic. Goshen, NY is home to the Harness Racing Museum and the country’s oldest harness racing track, beautiful historic buildings and homes, and a wonderful community of people. I’ve always dreamed of renovating this house, but it’s so far gone at this point. I truly hope this exposure helps it find a good buyer to restore it to its former glory!

    • @christinedemartin8828
      @christinedemartin8828 2 года назад +3

      You just described a classic haunted house. Maybe some of the owners ran out of money etc but all of them? Hopefully I am wrong; it looks like it was and could be again a lovely house.

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 2 года назад +1

      @@christinedemartin8828 your generation was fed a diet of ghosts vampires demons etc etc...read the Bible.

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 2 года назад +1

      The people who created such a God -glorifying mansion such as this, did!

    • @Sheskis
      @Sheskis 2 года назад

      @@lindaclark9925
      🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @lindaclark9925
      @lindaclark9925 2 года назад

      @@Sheskis as in the days of Noah...you are not divine, not are you God. Read a bible!

  • @cmm170526
    @cmm170526 2 года назад +14

    NS Builders is a great addition to the Architectural Digest team. Keep up the amazing work Nick and team.

  • @nativeamericanfeather9948
    @nativeamericanfeather9948 2 года назад +3

    My home is almost 200 years old. I've worked on it a little at a time for the last 6 years. Nobody would ever guess it's this old. I love older homes so I appreciate sharing this beautiful home with us♡

  • @georgieharrison7234
    @georgieharrison7234 2 года назад +8

    Was it the sinking panelling that told you it wasn't a brick wall, or was it that you could see the room next door through the studs 😂

  • @LexaKarlyn
    @LexaKarlyn 2 года назад +46

    👀Did you say $300k for the entire house?
    I paid over $750k for my 2000 sq ft 3 bedroom builder grade home outside of Toronto that still needed a new roof, unfinished basement, 1 garage, cheap parquet flooring etc.I feel very grateful to have been able to get into the market several years ago as houses like mine are now selling for $1.1M, but I'm always shocked when I see how much more house you can get elsewhere.

    • @jmbwithcats
      @jmbwithcats 2 года назад +13

      It's probably sat for many years because no one wants to put the money into a renovation as they won't be able to move in for a long time.

    • @UnseenSpirit
      @UnseenSpirit 2 года назад +9

      It's not a complete house. Having done renovations recently to my 100 year old house, problems always happen which means more cost. Stress levels also can be quite unpleasant tbh. Prices of homes always depend on area and market demand. A home like yours could be 200k in one area and 10 million in another etc... I mean in Hong Kong a 1 bed apartment is upwards of 1 million now.

    • @aliceavery4356
      @aliceavery4356 2 года назад +2

      It doesn’t have working bathrooms or a kitchen, though. He mentioned that livable similar homes in the area would be about twice as much.

    • @UnseenSpirit
      @UnseenSpirit 2 года назад +5

      @@aliceavery4356 exactly. The cost to renovate is 300 to 400k as the person mentioned. That's if all goes well. Unlike buying a home that's ready, which most pay via a mortgage, it's a lot more difficult to borrow money to renovate. Unless someone has 300 to 400k u guess...

    • @janellio
      @janellio 2 года назад +5

      @@jmbwithcats A lot of people may want too but there are a lot of rules round getting financing or mortgages for these kind of unhabitable homes. You have to have liquid funds to take on a renovation or restoration like this.

  • @z3lda808
    @z3lda808 2 года назад +20

    For those of you wanting to follow a restoration, try the 2nd Empire Strikes Back. It's an amazing home in St Louis that is being lovingly restored.

    • @MC-342
      @MC-342 2 года назад

      Yes. That's an excellent restoration. 👍

    • @debrabelton3161
      @debrabelton3161 2 года назад

      In the Lou, I'll check it out!

    • @sarahnoble6852
      @sarahnoble6852 2 года назад

      I was LITERALLY going to comment this! ❤️

    • @virginiasoskin9082
      @virginiasoskin9082 2 года назад

      Yeah, Caleb is doing a fantastic job.

  • @barbb3409
    @barbb3409 2 года назад +37

    It is heartbreaking to see what a mess this house is! It was my grandmother's and it was a wonderful house to grow up in! I hope they do right by it and bring it back to beautiful! ( and the fireplace in the front living room was never used!)

  • @src4409
    @src4409 2 года назад +2

    Restoration is so important of these homes. Trying to make everything fit the style of today is not a good idea. What fits the age of the home will stay in style forever and always be classy.

  • @kipplockwood1368
    @kipplockwood1368 2 года назад +3

    The windows with the square interior and the arched exterior are a true Victorian design allowing the bottom window to slide all the way up when opened.

  • @eleanor7
    @eleanor7 2 года назад +8

    The bones of the house are amazing. I wouldn't do one big shower, that would be such a pain to clean.

    • @princessadora
      @princessadora 7 месяцев назад

      it would be super easy, with a swirly mop

  • @Country_Girl63
    @Country_Girl63 2 года назад +2

    Please keep all of the character you can. Nothing beats old architecture.

  • @waitaminute2015
    @waitaminute2015 2 года назад +4

    I don't agree with tearing walls down. The open concept is going out. If the rooms are large enough, it's not needed. Enlarge the doorways to some rooms is more classic and timeless and helps keep closer to the original design.

  • @ReikoHigurumi
    @ReikoHigurumi 2 года назад +6

    I absolutely love this break down of cost and ideas. While I love watching full renovations from start to finish, this host was knowledgable about the type of finishes and history of this type of home and explained so many things about what goes into a renovation and what some things are that we should look for and what it might cost. Also, I love the explanation about the fire place and everything like that.

  • @Shayoyeye5223
    @Shayoyeye5223 2 года назад +6

    This is a lovely, solid home with a lot of character. I would love to see it renovated & restored.

  • @kendraw.6999
    @kendraw.6999 2 года назад +3

    I am tearing up thinking of the potential. I am with everybody else, would love this to be a series.

  • @TiffanyDesign
    @TiffanyDesign 2 года назад +5

    Love everything apart form the juliet balcony, thats average, those windows are beautiful and period appropriate. Keep those.

  • @aleks-33
    @aleks-33 2 года назад +3

    This was amazing. I would love to see more of this guy in any capacity. Either renovating this location or him talking about past work he's done. Or just assessing other houses.

  • @jordanmichelle9042
    @jordanmichelle9042 2 года назад +1

    Architecturally and visually THIS is a masterpiece! I think abandoned buildings are so cool bc you get to imagine the space and what it was like at the time. The era, the people, the way they dressed, what they did, how they furnished it. It's so fascinating to me.

  • @TruthOrClaire
    @TruthOrClaire 2 года назад +5

    I loved hearing his thought process behind everything. I hope we get to see a restoration/renovation of this Victorian!

  • @mypointofview1111
    @mypointofview1111 2 года назад +11

    It's an interesting house. Part gothic, part Edwardian with a lot of lovely detail. Hopefully a lot of these are retained as they add character to a home. Regular updates and the finished version would be appreciated

  • @SocialMediaStyl
    @SocialMediaStyl 2 года назад +17

    This was a pleasure to watch. The contractor is very knowledgeable and I found myself wrapped up in the fantasy of getting to renovate & live there.

  • @TylerDickey1
    @TylerDickey1 2 года назад +1

    NS Builders are legit, nice to see them working with AD.

  • @JuniperArcher
    @JuniperArcher 2 года назад +4

    Please do more videoes like this! They hold my attention so well and I love seeing old homes come to life again

  • @jennahoran8647
    @jennahoran8647 2 года назад +5

    OMG I know this house!!! I grew up in a nearby town and have been fascinated by it for years! 😱

  • @tanliz777
    @tanliz777 2 года назад +49

    Id love to explore an abandoned mansion.

  • @theLatestkraze
    @theLatestkraze 2 года назад +1

    Whoever’s idea this was to post this give them a raise! Loved it.

  • @JackCallSports
    @JackCallSports 2 года назад +1

    Went to school in Goshen always saw it getting food and driving
    Awesome seeing it renovated!

  • @uniquely.mediocre1865
    @uniquely.mediocre1865 2 года назад +5

    Maybe it's just me... but I like having each room separated, especially if it's divided by archways

  • @rulu3345
    @rulu3345 2 года назад +5

    This house is breathtaking... Stunning.

  • @alundra828
    @alundra828 2 года назад +1

    Please make the renovation into a full series. Would love to see the nitty gritty of the work involved!

  • @gabrielsegura3358
    @gabrielsegura3358 2 года назад +2

    I’d love to see this as a series

  • @natalieshira865
    @natalieshira865 2 года назад +3

    Seriously make this a series!! This would be the most beautiful house!!!

  • @buff25
    @buff25 2 года назад +10

    Question for anyone who wants to answer it... Do people actually like rain showers? That would be a hard no for me, and I'm curious about why they're considered luxurious.

    • @faeriesmak
      @faeriesmak 2 года назад +3

      Yea..no thanks from me as well.

    • @Sheskis
      @Sheskis 2 года назад +2

      Good idea in theory but not so much in reality.
      Imagine how cold you would get standing in such a large “shower”, sounds a bit breezy to me?

    • @jeananneramsden
      @jeananneramsden 2 года назад +2

      Not sure many women like rain showers. It is only men who mostly wash their hair every day. Few women do but in a rain shower there's no getting away from the water.

    • @buff25
      @buff25 2 года назад +1

      @@jeananneramsden Yeah I think of it as like a hype bachelor thing lol

  • @stephenleegray6384
    @stephenleegray6384 Год назад +1

    As a professional interior designer, I have to say I’m really impressed by this guys understanding of space and sensitivity to the structure and integrity of the building. I’d have this guy on any job that the budget would allow. An absolute professional, and I’ve worked with the best. Well done mate.

  • @independentpatriot1775
    @independentpatriot1775 2 года назад +2

    @ 4:20 that's why it is beneficial to always have a tennis ball, or handball, with you on a walkthrough. It is a great visual aid to demonstrate if a floor is level. Place it down to see if/how it rolls.

  • @lonewolfbackcountry3734
    @lonewolfbackcountry3734 2 года назад +4

    reminds me of the houses I grew up around, love that tower! I am super curious of the history of it also houses like that in the 1890s were few and far between. would love to see a series of it getting renovated

  • @iandanforth
    @iandanforth 2 года назад +10

    It's just such a shame to lose the character of a house "for the way we live today." If you're buying a 100+ year old house, you should love old homes. Not just the look of the shell. As soon as he suggested taking out the back staircase I was done. Such a waste.

    • @faeriesmak
      @faeriesmak 2 года назад +3

      He lost me at the Juliette balcony and changing the inside trim from what it originally was.

  • @sherriianiro747
    @sherriianiro747 2 года назад +3

    This house has so much potential and I just hope whoever gets it brings it back to its historical integrity and doesn't modernize it with fads like you see so much today that ruin them. These homes were custom made with great attention to detail and workmanship.

  • @VivPhotography
    @VivPhotography 2 года назад +43

    Whoever buys it, I hope they restore it to its former glory. I cried a little when he talked about some of the modern things he wanted to add and walls he wanted to tear down. Some of us love compartmentalized rooms...I don't want to feel like I'm living in a warehouse. Build a brand new home if you want that - don't ruin a historical one.

    • @lindaraterink6451
      @lindaraterink6451 2 года назад +8

      exactly! These interiors should be preserved as best you posibly can, live with the space you have if you realy like this architecture you do not change it.

    • @loritanner4478
      @loritanner4478 2 года назад +6

      I totally agree! I hate when people ruin old beautiful homes to turn them into modern ugly pieces of yuck! Sliding glass doors in an old Victorian beauty like this? Open concept! Really! Leave this house alone and go build a new monstrosity.

    • @marybethciandella9518
      @marybethciandella9518 2 года назад +1

      Yes yes yes

    • @trawrtster6097
      @trawrtster6097 2 месяца назад

      There’s not a whole lot of land in “desirable” areas anymore that doesn’t require tearing down an existing house

  • @saphire2214
    @saphire2214 2 года назад +26

    This is begging to be a renovation series with an informative breakdown of cost of materials and labour.

    • @twistoffate4791
      @twistoffate4791 2 года назад

      Wouldn't that be fantastic? I unsubscribed to AD because it didn't interest me anymore. No heart in the homes. Then this particular video popped up, and I thought, "Wellllll.... I'll give this video a look-see." Now I really want to follow the restoration. Will we get that chance? It remains to be seen.

  • @dougy_dawg
    @dougy_dawg 2 года назад +10

    This is amazingly beautiful! Would be so cool to be able to see the renovation process!

  • @leahtreck1083
    @leahtreck1083 2 года назад +1

    Yes,yes,yes! A piece of history, save and restore to it’s original beauty❣️

  • @judyhwang3060
    @judyhwang3060 2 года назад +2

    The concept of this video is very cool! The contractor was great at explaining things and made it easy to understand what could/should be changed. Hopefully we get to see more of these kind of videos in the future

  • @datingafter3834
    @datingafter3834 2 года назад +7

    Awesome to find this after I went to see this house. You answered every question I could think of. But still wondering about the history of why it’s abandoned so long. Hoping it’s purchased very soon (if I don’t buy it first) so it won’t suffer from more neglect. Wonderful presentation!

  • @lilithgrrrl
    @lilithgrrrl 2 года назад +3

    Reminds me of the HGTV series, “Restored” with Brett Waterman, also “Cheap Old Houses”! Hopefully the new owner respects the heritage of the house and doesn’t install shiplap everywhere 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

  • @DementedDistraction
    @DementedDistraction 2 года назад +2

    This house is RAD.
    If I had the means I'd absolutely buy it in a heartbeat and renovate it while keeping it as stylistically accurate to the period as possible.

  • @MrMusicCaster
    @MrMusicCaster 2 года назад +2

    This house was painted at some point and you could tell it was then sandblasted to remove the paint. Sandblasting destroys the surface of the brick and it just doesn't look the same afterwards. This was once a beautiful house but it's just not worth the money spent to fix it up considering what you would end up with.

    • @france7678
      @france7678 2 года назад

      Good observation , and it’s not only a cosmetic issue, brick is now porous, house is in NY state…..freezing and thawing …bad, bad.

  • @mikaelb.2070
    @mikaelb.2070 2 года назад +49

    Wow, he really wants to destroy the historic character of the house. The house should be restored and brought up to date more gently, respecting its heritage!

    • @passiveaggressive6175
      @passiveaggressive6175 Год назад +6

      If he renovated the house without addressing light and space, it would continue to be dark with gloomy home with closed off small spaces. He also recognises that some areas are not salvageable. He wants to capture the essence of the house but with a modern feel. I don’t think he’s out to ‘destroy’ it.

  • @TheLandOfJonny
    @TheLandOfJonny 2 года назад +3

    I hope the pinnacle and pitched turret roof is put back in too, as it’s been capped now.

  • @dunderheadgood
    @dunderheadgood 2 года назад +2

    if u want to live in a house with a new living style but like the look of an old house, build a new house that looks old. history should be preserved, especially when so many of these houses were one offs made specifically for the people who purchased them. they’re one of a kind.

  • @anniecompton8348
    @anniecompton8348 2 года назад +1

    Him “I see the turret and I think that’s a really natural space for a-“
    Me-“Library”
    Him “Bathroom”
    Me-“Uh, clearly we are not on the same plane of existence”
    Also-THANK YOU for discussing budget options on renovations of this time. This house fully deserves the dream budget-there aren’t many left like this. But dude-don’t ditch the butler stair to the kitchen-that’s 100% authentic.

  • @nicolerichards5122
    @nicolerichards5122 2 года назад +24

    Absolutely incredible-- more old homes, AD!!!

  • @kaylag9579
    @kaylag9579 2 года назад +5

    It would break my heart if they modernized it too much.

  • @redvinesron
    @redvinesron 2 года назад +1

    I want to see the final renovation! Also, I really hope he keeps that secret room above where his "shower room" is. What a great place for a parent to getaway, or to have as a private reading room or yoga room or something. I'd love to have a room like that. 😊

  • @74castaway
    @74castaway 2 года назад +1

    This building is a GEM, what a beauty! You make over ideas sound pretty awesome.
    Unlike many old structures this house hasn't any creepy nor ugly vibes- would love to see it in his full re-build as well!

  • @libbyziemer8075
    @libbyziemer8075 2 года назад +3

    This is the kind of house I dream of owning one day.

  • @Coventry268
    @Coventry268 2 года назад +4

    Love this home it’s beautiful, l live in an old property in London so can identify with all of the refurbishment that can be done to this wonderful homes

  • @vaniog29
    @vaniog29 2 года назад +1

    i hope it gets restored to its former glory , it's beautiful ....

  • @micheleknowles3204
    @micheleknowles3204 2 года назад

    I love your integrity of keeping the home with its organizational structure.

  • @hyperTorless
    @hyperTorless 2 года назад +25

    5 minutes in and it's astounding how far from this simple kind of beauty modern architecture has brought us. We no longer know how to make all of these sculpted details, we even lost the vocabulary. There was so much wisdom in these buildings, probably they didn't even realize it at the time (or maybe they did, I don't know).
    Now look at the 20 latest Pritzker award winners. You'll see : glass cubes and concrete blocks. What have we done? What happened?

    • @lilithgrrrl
      @lilithgrrrl 2 года назад +1

      Things aren’t made in America anymore, no more honoring heritage, handmade, craftsmanship. And the trendy style is all glass and concrete. Also, high end architects no longer design residential, the money is all in corporate commercial architecture.

    • @TheWarrrenator
      @TheWarrrenator 2 года назад +1

      Yeah there’s no money in that kind of details in a residential building or home. Plus this represented the height of building technology at that time and that was limited to brick. Now we have pressed concrete and things that go into modern housing that wasn’t in existence then.