Pretty hot here in France, nice to get some fresh air (ie cooler than the outside, and more gasoline tasty) in the garage, in the basement. How's your recovery? (by the way I could watch radial engine cut out displays for hours. Which i actually did at Safran/Gnome&Rhone private museum. Conrods of these engines looks like octopuses, these are pretty "organic" engines).
This is actually happening in music production. Instead of saying master/slave (ie master/slave midi relationships or master/slave tracks) everything’s changing to parent/child. I don’t think anyone’s making a huge fuss yet, I think companies and developers are just future-proofing their products
The timing is also different. On a radial the master rod big end transcribes a circle, but the articulating rod ends transcribe an ellipse. This means that the intervals between each TDC and BDC aren’t evenly spaced. Radials use what are known as a “compensated cams” with unevenly spaced lobes for proper ignition timing.. while valve timing is set so it’s an average for all cylinders (since radials use planetary gears and cam rings which share lobes between all cylinders rather than camshafts).
Yep, all slave rods that are not 180° apart from the master rod will have slightly longer strokes than the master rod. The Soviet T-34 tanks have a 60° V12 that has a master/slave arrangement, eith a 180mm stroke on the master side and a 186mm on the side with the slave rods. The GE 7FDL locomotive engines are at a 45° angle and also use master/slave rods. I know that the pistons on the master rods have a 267mm stroke, but I'm not sure what the stroke of the slave rod pistons are. Maybe something like 277mm?
You forgot another way of putting two connecting rods to a single crankpin. The blade and fork!!! Imagine putting your spoon in between the teeth of your fork. While it may not be as simple as the side-by-side design, it had a slightly shorter block length-wise since it had no offset heads to worry about. Which also helps in simplifying the cam drives. A few notable examples of this are the Harley v-twins, rolls Royce Merlin, and the Merc DB601. One of the few downsides of the blade and fork engine is the increase complexity in con-rod production, and oil circulation issues in between rods.
I've been waiting for someone to cover this! The first time I saw something different from what you usually see in an engine was with an old soviet engine for the KV-1 tank I believe.
I know that SACM MGO engines have master and slave rods and because of the shorter stroke on the slave rod pistons, thinner head gaskets are used to give the same compression ratio. SACM MGO engines are found in older French diesel locomotives.
I also read that using master and slave conrods produce diferent primary and secondary forces between banks, so you are eliminating rocking couple between banks (but not in the same bank) but creating inbalance of the forces, thats the reason why is not used in most V shaped engines (also because is cheaper to have equal conrods molds when casting)
I'm surprised that we don't have more radial engined things other than airplanes. The engine design seems like it would have efficiencies that other engine layouts don't have.
@@VisioRacer thanks bro, I think if someone is building a 2 cylinder boxer racing engine then he can use this as this will not only provide very smooth power delivery but also eliminate rocking coupling, thankyou bro for replying my comment it really means a lot to me
@@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757 I don't .. it's PC gone mad. IDE drives don't have a problem with it why would conn rods. People that don't play the race card wherever they look don't have a problem with it either. So .. it's a cute lil joke
The terms "master" and "slave" are very much antiquated, but we've lived with it for the time being. The political unrest that has unfolded, however...
Hello! How are you enjoying summer, guys?
I am from South America and here it is winter.
We are greatly enjoying summer ,usually I go for long rides in my Suzuki 2 stroke, hope you are also enjoying your summer
Better now that I've watched this video.
;)
Pretty hot here in France, nice to get some fresh air (ie cooler than the outside, and more gasoline tasty) in the garage, in the basement.
How's your recovery?
(by the way I could watch radial engine cut out displays for hours. Which i actually did at Safran/Gnome&Rhone private museum. Conrods of these engines looks like octopuses, these are pretty "organic" engines).
its always summer in Kittygystan
But... but... we're all equal these days, aren't we? Equal rights for con-rods!!
Equal in torque for what matters
(ie, black lives)
This is actually happening in music production. Instead of saying master/slave (ie master/slave midi relationships or master/slave tracks) everything’s changing to parent/child. I don’t think anyone’s making a huge fuss yet, I think companies and developers are just future-proofing their products
@@Damien.D rich fuel leads to Black smoke ;)
@@devl547 Now I know why diesels gets banned in Europe : blackfacing cyclist is racial bad taste.
OOOHHH contentious title.....the modern internet prefers Queen and worker rods
I think you meant boss and salaried employees, equally divided between gender, ethnicity and sexual preference, with all rights guaranteed rods
@@visekual6248 Rolls right off the tongue
Alternative title: *Connecting Rods that played roleplay games*
Politically Incorrect Conn Rods has a nicer ring to it
I never thought it before about the stroke length being a different in these types of engines. Learning always something new!
The timing is also different. On a radial the master rod big end transcribes a circle, but the articulating rod ends transcribe an ellipse. This means that the intervals between each TDC and BDC aren’t evenly spaced.
Radials use what are known as a “compensated cams” with unevenly spaced lobes for proper ignition timing.. while valve timing is set so it’s an average for all cylinders (since radials use planetary gears and cam rings which share lobes between all cylinders rather than camshafts).
This is what give the radial it’s unique lumpy sound.
Yep, all slave rods that are not 180° apart from the master rod will have slightly longer strokes than the master rod.
The Soviet T-34 tanks have a 60° V12 that has a master/slave arrangement, eith a 180mm stroke on the master side and a 186mm on the side with the slave rods.
The GE 7FDL locomotive engines are at a 45° angle and also use master/slave rods. I know that the pistons on the master rods have a 267mm stroke, but I'm not sure what the stroke of the slave rod pistons are. Maybe something like 277mm?
Wow I actually learned something new! Thanks so much and keep up the awesome content!
Here to wish you a speedy recovery dude!
Kool! I always wondered how they got radials so flat!
You forgot another way of putting two connecting rods to a single crankpin.
The blade and fork!!!
Imagine putting your spoon in between the teeth of your fork.
While it may not be as simple as the side-by-side design, it had a slightly shorter block length-wise since it had no offset heads to worry about. Which also helps in simplifying the cam drives.
A few notable examples of this are the Harley v-twins, rolls Royce Merlin, and the Merc DB601.
One of the few downsides of the blade and fork engine is the increase complexity in con-rod production, and oil circulation issues in between rods.
I'd like to see that done on a radial engine...
The EMD 2-stroke Diesels have used fork&blade rods since they were first built in 1938.
Short, sweet, and informative. Nice video!
I've been waiting for someone to cover this! The first time I saw something different from what you usually see in an engine was with an old soviet engine for the KV-1 tank I believe.
Are we allowed to call them that these days? Careful you don't start a riot ;-)
Nice,great vidéo
Awesome video as usual
You should check out the Fueling W3 conversion for HD engines for a wild discovery. It used this configuration.
Some people get offended by those, though.
But great stuff!
I know that SACM MGO engines have master and slave rods and because of the shorter stroke on the slave rod pistons, thinner head gaskets are used to give the same compression ratio.
SACM MGO engines are found in older French diesel locomotives.
2nd viewer, and How are your injuries sir? Hoping a supercharged recovery to u.
Ah, so far good. Slowly recovering, I should get my stitches out from the surgery on Friday. Thank you
what happened to him?
fidel catsro he died
@@snaxgalore5764 RIP. We will always remember him.
@@snaxgalore5764 and he never posted a youtube video about this ''supposed'' death? why wasnt i informed of this?
Ur English has improved!
Short and sweet
Love the videos!
Hallo Visio Racer 😎😎😎👍
Hope you're recovering quick, my dude.
a cat bit him?
fidel catsro a cat named asphalt.
@@williamstryker6643 he fell from a cat bike? or was it from the ''endless money pit as they age'' boxer car?
fidel catsro Slovakiaring sending 🤙
@@fidelcatsro6948 shame on you, fidel. making such a dangerous cat bike haha
I also read that using master and slave conrods produce diferent primary and secondary forces between banks, so you are eliminating rocking couple between banks (but not in the same bank) but creating inbalance of the forces, thats the reason why is not used in most V shaped engines (also because is cheaper to have equal conrods molds when casting)
Lion-Peugeots from 1910 to 1913 had master and slave set up for their V4.
d e m o n e t i z e d
Hello! Could you do a video about the slowest reving engines ever put in a roadgoing vehicle? That would be quite interesting I think.
You should do one about different displacements within one engine, if it exists...
Of all names
*Master and slave*
Now I think I see why they’re so bloody loud
Action and reaction rods.
No more slave and master
I was today years old when I found out that the CON in conrod stands for connecting. It makes so much sense yet it never came to my mind.
Get well soon visio
I'm surprised that we don't have more radial engined things other than airplanes.
The engine design seems like it would have efficiencies that other engine layouts don't have.
Can this technology be used for boxer engine
Interesting question. I think it could, but the pin would be 180° from the master rod, I mean at its bottom.
@@VisioRacer thanks bro, I think if someone is building a 2 cylinder boxer racing engine then he can use this as this will not only provide very smooth power delivery but also eliminate rocking coupling, thankyou bro for replying my comment it really means a lot to me
How's the recovery going? You fully fit now?
could you not just modify the block height so both banks end up with the same stroke length?
Don’t let feminists know about this video
Why? Is there something I missed?
Car Boi
They’d start a parade asking to stop connecting rods discrimination
I always thought these were equal in length
Aircraft radials are more progressive and they use the terms master rod and articulating rods.
(Almost) all Harley engines use this :)
How is your recovery going?
Slowly, but very good
@@VisioRacer good to hear.👍
0:08 Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!
Are you fine my friend?
Sure, getting better every day. Thank you
Transmash T55
I knew it was ok to have slaves 👍🤣🤭
Actually most prefer the name "Queen and Workers"
You can stop bugging me about the "everyone" now
And that's actually not funny
@@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757 I don't .. it's PC gone mad. IDE drives don't have a problem with it why would conn rods. People that don't play the race card wherever they look don't have a problem with it either. So .. it's a cute lil joke
@@politicallyinaccuratetoast4757
Oh, everyone? Says who?
You seriously didn't include Harley Davidson in all this!? really?
... still appreciate the video
Please do your homework first , Harley engines use fork & blade type connecting rods or split big- end style
I don't like it. It messes up my OCD
#kartengines
Harley Davidson
They use fork and blade and so have a common crankpin.
ازول
you cant use those terms anymore, master/slave, blacklist/whitelist lol
The terms "master" and "slave" are very much antiquated, but we've lived with it for the time being.
The political unrest that has unfolded, however...
This title is very politically incorrect, expect this video to be taken down.
It is what it is called like. This is not a political video, either.
@@VisioRacer I know, I am just making fun of the whole "politically correct" BS.
Keep up the good work!