@@archkull - I'm still not sure she was smiling or crying or distressed. That is why the writing and performance is so good. It can be interpreted many ways.
@@sergiomendoza4850 Livia's in her late 70's and worrying about her cholesterol? Marone. Carmella brings over a ricotta pie and instead of thanking her for the baked dish, she replies back by giving out a yuck reaction. Livia, you're a disgrazia for a mother in law.
This is my second favorite scene in the entire series (The first being Carmela's rant at Livia's funeral.). Edie Falco and the late Nancy Marchand play their respective parts to perfection. What I love the most about it is how Carmela stands up to Livia and does not buy into Livia's sob stories. Carmela was the only character who had the courage to stand up to Livia and I loved her for it.
That’s because Carmela wasn’t involved in the whole Sopranos family “history” the way Tony and Janice were until she and Tony got married. She was more or less an outsider looking in and therefore had a different perspective
@@RaySchwarz. Exactly. She wasn't blood. She didn't have to grow up with Johnny Boy telling them "nah she's alright." while she whittled away his self esteem and self worth. Evil woman.
@@Tkieron Livia was awful but so was Johnny Boy, I doubt he *actually* treated her well. We see this in the episode “Camelot”: Johny leaves her in a hospital while he’s off with a goomar. Tony was fucked from the get-go with the parents he had
That's because you're still watching sponge bob, girls might as well be squidward to you, you don't know what to do with them. Maybe you'll understand when you get older if you end up liking them
Nancy Marchand was an amazing actress and one of the best parts of the early Sopranos. The way she revolves through Livia's emotions in this scene is mesmerizing and revealing of Livia's increasingly desperate attempts to manipulate all around her.
It's amazing how Carmella enters knowing full well that Livia is manipulative... yet Livia is such a handful that Carmella leaves the conversion with more baggage than before lol
Livia was a real piece of work. No wonder Tony and Janice are so screwed up (don't know how the younger daughter Barbara managed to get out relatively unscathed, but maybe she paid less attention to mentally tormenting her since she had Tony and Janice to harass). I also love the way she's going on about Carmella implying something improper is happening between her and Junior, LOL! Makes me wonder if something did happen between them years earlier and now her guilt is making her deflect back on Carmella with ridiculous accusations.
DarlingNikki2 You know what would've been interesting...if Johnny was alive when Janice returns to the loop after living away and then she and Richie Aprile get involved; when Richie would lay a hand on her Janice wouldn't have to grab a gun and shoot him, Johnny Boy Soprano would take care of it. He also wouldn't need permission to wacked Richie because it would have involved his daughter
Most outcomes in life are due to genetics. The children are neurotic because the parents are neurotic. Family life and parental behavior does not play that much of a role. I know this because I'm a behavioral genecicist :)
Especially since Barbara would have been alone with her parents (maybe she found places to go to when things got tough or Tony was there to absorb Livia)
She was a lot younger, and I'm guessing that Livia probably doted on her once Janice and Tony had left so that she could try and claim she was a good Mother. Plus, Barbara never had any mob involvement and moved far enough away - (upstate New York if I remember rightly) - that she wasn't in the pull of Livia's black cloud - unlike Tony.
Yes. Carmela did put them in their place. AJ's suicide attempt really ticked her off at Tony because his constant negativity (and Livia's) infiltrated her son's outlook on life.
Tony was right about Livia....She was a Black Cloud.....the scary part was she knew this all too well and she used it to her advantage.....even having Family members go at one another.
She was also a direct product of the society that created her (backstabbing, ruthless mafia culture and the hypocritical elements of Italian-American culture)
What’s sad is even though this is written fiction, this is EXACTLY what goes on in real family life. All the drama, backstabbing, manipulation, power grabs, etc, they happen all the time in every family.
Michael franzese was asked to work in the sopranos, although he turned it down he said the used wire taps from his family home to get a realistic feel and thinks that's how they came up with livia ...
Livia is also partially based on showrunner David Chase's mother so he has some experience with people like her. In fact, some of Livia's mannerisms & phrases were taken directly from the real life inspiration.
Not in mine. Knock wood. My sister(GI doctor) is a LOT more financially successful than me, and I was bitter about that for a while, but I've learned to be happy for her. We don't have any backstabbing or power grabs. I think my biggest problem is that I can't relate very well to my parents, who are first-generation Indian-Americans where as I grew up here, in America. Sometimes its hard to know what to talk about with them, there's a cultural chasm. But we all still love each other very much.
I remember when my grandmother was in a rest home, we visited her every week, others in my family would visit my grandmother, she told us that the lady who was about 90 years old, rarely ever had family visiting her, how sad. Some elderly people are put in a rest home and then forgotten. My grandmother would share candy (sugar free hard candy) we would give my grandmother with the lady next to her.
I love the way Livia used to say "who ME?" I had an aunt who used to do just that. Only she drug out the me. 'Who? Meeeee?" It became a running joke. So much that her sister, who was my favorite aunt, used to say to her "yes; yooouuuu." 😂🤣
@odinmage Its really sad that so many men and women have shared this similar experience about their mothers on threads about Livia. David Chase himself based her character off of memories of his own mother. There must be something very universal about such a type of toxic matriarchy that so many people can relate to Tony's predicament with her constant manipulation. Sadly, too many people have children for narcissistic reasons, seeing them as extensions of their own selfish egos and using them as an audience for control and attention.
My grandmother was like this and I swear I don’t understand how people can live this way. Being this overly negative and cynical has got to age you so horribly thinking such negative thoughts all the damn time.
this is a classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder(NPD). They are insecure inside so they become toxic and aggressive outside to hide it. When they are strong or feel they have power they are abusive ,manipulative ,aggressive , verbally hard. When they feel week they are pretending to be weak , always the victim , always someone else's fault , while they still being toxic and pretending to be an angel sent from heaven. Narcissist don't have empathy and are highly insecure people. Manipulation and gaslighting are their biggest weapon and they use it to the point for self destruction. Be careful not to get attached to someone like because you would go through a hell of a rollercoaster of emotions and its never gonna be enough and you will always think it's your fault but its actually not.
If I was that old, I’d be more worried about death and what awaits me on the other side. Surely this behavior isn’t scoring any goods points with the Almighty Creator.
People like this just like making drama and fucking with people. For some reason, it's the only thing that makes them happy, even if they refuse to express it.
Actually she was based on mine. NPD is a horrible disorder and can’t be cured except by detaching yourself from that person emotionally as and when it suits. Just like Tony does or a David Chase did.
@@wacodraco1558 I read that she got the part, despite the cancer, because she was one of the few women who auditioned who truly understood the character. Since Livia was based on David Chase's own mother, he was surely very careful to get that role right.
"Perpetrator playing victim" is the #1 go-to strategy for manipulative narcissists. I had a close friend like this and the toxicity was too much for any of us to bear.
On read on Wikipedia that the writers were going to create a storyline that Livia was going to testify in court against Tony in federal court and she was going to reveal the stolen airline tickets scheme.
Some of my favorite scenes in this show come from Carmela and Livia. How Carmela is one of the only characters who can't break under Livia's manipulation and realize she's just a miserable narcissist and not entertain it is amazing, something Tony should have learned a long time ago
Maybe one of the greatest scenes in the show. It's a testament to the story writing quality when a personal family drama scene between a woman and her mother-in-law is so amazing in a show about god damn mobsters lmao
@@vickjr98 Carmela was a pathetic hypocrite who lived off blood money while spouting off about her Catholic faith and the sanctity of the family. At least Livia knew exactly what she was and didn’t pretend to be good.
Livia looks at the past with rose colored glasses. Gee Livia was Johnny a saint when he was seeing Fran Feldstein and you were in the hospital; then he lied to you about where he and young Tony were?
Carmela is fighting a losing battle with Livia. If she has borderline personality disorder which Dr Melfi suggests, there will be a tendency to fear abandonment but equally push people away. To be joyless and manipulative around people. You can’t win with someone like that, their constant negativity is draining.
On a related note, the late Nancy Marchand puts on a hell of a performance. This old lady is more intimidating with her manipulation than the most violent tough guy piece of shit. Livia Soprano is one of the best realised characters on television, and you feel like this is someone with a genuine personality disorder rather than an actress doing an incredible job. David Chase obviously managed to recall a lot about his relationship with his own mother in order to flesh out this character.
although this does happen occasionally for the malignant narcissist-jezebel...in most cases their flying-monkeys are way too loyal and both fearful, their trauma-bond addicted servants way too drugged by their own brains secretions to ever let this dormancy occur...they are usually worshiped to the grave and beyond by their sub-ordinates and never left alone ever.
I'm at least taking comfort in this comments section, reading that others have had the same experiences with their mothers or grandmothers that I had with mine.
Ever heard of stinky bait? It's something so foul, so delicious, the old catfish can't help but bite it..all he gets for his trouble is a treble hook in his throat. These people throw out stinky bait all day long. If nothing bites, the bait gets changed to something stinkier. The point is always the treble hook, tho, friend.
Am I the only one who finds this scene hilarious? In a dark way sure, but still. Comedy black gold if you ask me. Both actors are perfect, Marchand must have had a great time playing Livia.
Probably because Carm was extremely stubborn and didn’t want to learn how to cook anything else. Even Junior’s Pignolis ( a far superior Italian baked good) couldn’t crack her
Vera Farmiga who played Livia in Many Saints also played Norma Bates. Think they’re very similar characters. No coincidence they named the protagonist of the Sopranos “Anthony”.
@@mikehinchliffe9163 Well, until you do, or at the very least, find a quote confirming the connection, it's literally impossible to determine the name "Anthony" to be anything more than coincidence.
If the assassination of Tony had been successful she would have spent the rest or her life claiming him to be a Saint
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint
Exactly. Spot on Brandon. I hate those kinds of people.
The funeral would've been like her wedding day
You know what? You’re probably right.
So true, sadly.
Carmela had her problems but the way she always stood up to Tony's mom was brilliant
Honestly it was this scene right here that gave me the confidence to stand up to some of my in laws and the way they behave towards my family 👌
Confronting narcissist is a waste of time. Just leave them alone and keep your sanity.
Carmela was the real narcissist. Livia didn't coddle anyone's feelings and people think that makes her evil.
@@BLTKellys lol no way bro. Livia had some issues. I don't think she smiled one time in the entire series.
@@aaronbrutus2654
She smiled when Tony fell down the stairs lol
@@AryanDiablo also when Tony was yelling at her at the hospital after finding out about the hit
@@archkull - I'm still not sure she was smiling or crying or distressed. That is why the writing and performance is so good. It can be interpreted many ways.
“I made it with the low fat cheese.”
“Yeeeeeeeerrrrrrk”. Lol
Yeah she sucks lol, it’s truly incredible how cynical and negative she is.
@@sergiomendoza4850 Livia's in her late 70's and worrying about her cholesterol? Marone. Carmella brings over a ricotta pie and instead of thanking her for the baked dish, she replies back by giving out a yuck reaction. Livia, you're a disgrazia for a mother in law.
LOL
There was nothing anyone could do. Livia was a made girl and the low fat ricot wasn't.
I literally searched for this clip just because I thought about that line to myself and started laughing. Hilarious
This is my second favorite scene in the entire series (The first being Carmela's rant at Livia's funeral.). Edie Falco and the late Nancy Marchand play their respective parts to perfection. What I love the most about it is how Carmela stands up to Livia and does not buy into Livia's sob stories. Carmela was the only character who had the courage to stand up to Livia and I loved her for it.
That’s because Carmela wasn’t involved in the whole Sopranos family “history” the way Tony and Janice were until she and Tony got married. She was more or less an outsider looking in and therefore had a different perspective
@@RaySchwarz. Exactly. She wasn't blood. She didn't have to grow up with Johnny Boy telling them "nah she's alright." while she whittled away his self esteem and self worth. Evil woman.
Carmela was no saint. Look at her scenes with Father Phil, saying prostitutes don’t deserve to go to heaven.
@@Tkieron Livia was awful but so was Johnny Boy, I doubt he *actually* treated her well. We see this in the episode “Camelot”: Johny leaves her in a hospital while he’s off with a goomar. Tony was fucked from the get-go with the parents he had
Edie Falco was so pretty in this scene. When she’s on, she’s on. 😍
Yeah first two seasons she really was beautiful. She looked horrible by the end, and I really hated it when she cut her hair short.
U need ur glasses on cuh
Pretty?! She's beautiful here.
edie falco = female version of squidward. she even sounds like him. beautiful? pretty? get some fuckin glasses.
That's because you're still watching sponge bob, girls might as well be squidward to you, you don't know what to do with them.
Maybe you'll understand when you get older if you end up liking them
Nancy Marchand was an amazing actress and one of the best parts of the early Sopranos. The way she revolves through Livia's emotions in this scene is mesmerizing and revealing of Livia's increasingly desperate attempts to manipulate all around her.
Hahaha for real
Yep she is a narcissist
@@Unknown90010 She sure is !
Watch the movie LadyBug LadyBug some time.
It's amazing how Carmella enters knowing full well that Livia is manipulative... yet Livia is such a handful that Carmella leaves the conversion with more baggage than before lol
Yeah. You can never win against or reason with a sociopath / toxic person. Just gotta keep your distance and avoid engaging as much as possible.
Most daughter in laws see a lot, but don’t say a lot.
“POWER! I DON’T HAVE POWER!” (Conspires with a mob boss) 😂
Livia was a real piece of work. No wonder Tony and Janice are so screwed up (don't know how the younger daughter Barbara managed to get out relatively unscathed, but maybe she paid less attention to mentally tormenting her since she had Tony and Janice to harass). I also love the way she's going on about Carmella implying something improper is happening between her and Junior, LOL! Makes me wonder if something did happen between them years earlier and now her guilt is making her deflect back on Carmella with ridiculous accusations.
DarlingNikki2 You know what would've been interesting...if Johnny was alive when Janice returns to the loop after living away and then she and Richie Aprile get involved; when Richie would lay a hand on her Janice wouldn't have to grab a gun and shoot him, Johnny Boy Soprano would take care of it. He also wouldn't need permission to wacked Richie because it would have involved his daughter
Most outcomes in life are due to genetics. The children are neurotic because the parents are neurotic. Family life and parental behavior does not play that much of a role. I know this because I'm a behavioral genecicist :)
'''genecicist" un cazzo
Especially since Barbara would have been alone with her parents (maybe she found places to go to when things got tough or Tony was there to absorb Livia)
She was a lot younger, and I'm guessing that Livia probably doted on her once Janice and Tony had left so that she could try and claim she was a good Mother. Plus, Barbara never had any mob involvement and moved far enough away - (upstate New York if I remember rightly) - that she wasn't in the pull of Livia's black cloud - unlike Tony.
Carmella has a family? What family? They're nothing more than a glorified crew.
Jay Santos I see what you did there!
You mean that Pygmy thing they got going over in Jersey?
Historically Livia always said the DeAngelis were nothing more than a glorified crew
@LS Let me tell you a thing or three....
@LS I did 20 years in the joint. I ate grill cheese off the Radiator!
Carmella was always at her best when dealing with Tony’s manipulative family members
Yes. Carmela did put them in their place. AJ's suicide attempt really ticked her off at Tony because his constant negativity (and Livia's) infiltrated her son's outlook on life.
Tony was right about Livia....She was a Black Cloud.....the scary part was she knew this all too well and she used it to her advantage.....even having Family members go at one another.
Yeah Livia is almost as manipulative and horrible as my mother!
She was a mess of feelings who lost touch with reality long ago, everyone knew it so that's why they never got angry at her.
She was also a direct product of the society that created her (backstabbing, ruthless mafia culture and the hypocritical elements of Italian-American culture)
livia had the makings of a varsity manipulator.
Tony called her a Black Hole, Stuport. Not a Cloud. Just so you know.
What’s sad is even though this is written fiction, this is EXACTLY what goes on in real family life. All the drama, backstabbing, manipulation, power grabs, etc, they happen all the time in every family.
Michael franzese was asked to work in the sopranos, although he turned it down he said the used wire taps from his family home to get a realistic feel and thinks that's how they came up with livia ...
Livia is also partially based on showrunner David Chase's mother so he has some experience with people like her. In fact, some of Livia's mannerisms & phrases were taken directly from the real life inspiration.
Not in mine. Knock wood. My sister(GI doctor) is a LOT more financially successful than me, and I was bitter about that for a while, but I've learned to be happy for her. We don't have any backstabbing or power grabs. I think my biggest problem is that I can't relate very well to my parents, who are first-generation Indian-Americans where as I grew up here, in America. Sometimes its hard to know what to talk about with them, there's a cultural chasm. But we all still love each other very much.
I remember when my grandmother was in a rest home, we visited her every week, others in my family would visit my grandmother, she told us that the lady who was about 90 years old, rarely ever had family visiting her, how sad. Some elderly people are put in a rest home and then forgotten. My grandmother would share candy (sugar free hard candy) we would give my grandmother with the lady next to her.
I love the way Livia used to say "who ME?" I had an aunt who used to do just that. Only she drug out the me. 'Who? Meeeee?" It became a running joke. So much that her sister, who was my favorite aunt, used to say to her "yes; yooouuuu." 😂🤣
Nancy Marchand was great as Livia
She was DEAD ON. Perfect casting.
RIP Ms Marchand a truly missed talent.
Livia never had the makings of a varsity manipulator.
Yeah she did
Varsity? She was a total fooking pro.
@odinmage Its really sad that so many men and women have shared this similar experience about their mothers on threads about Livia. David Chase himself based her character off of memories of his own mother. There must be something very universal about such a type of toxic matriarchy that so many people can relate to Tony's predicament with her constant manipulation. Sadly, too many people have children for narcissistic reasons, seeing them as extensions of their own selfish egos and using them as an audience for control and attention.
She was the whole team
she was a MADE manipulator
My grandmother was like this and I swear I don’t understand how people can live this way. Being this overly negative and cynical has got to age you so horribly thinking such negative thoughts all the damn time.
this is a classic Narcissistic Personality Disorder(NPD). They are insecure inside so they become toxic and aggressive outside to hide it.
When they are strong or feel they have power they are abusive ,manipulative ,aggressive , verbally hard.
When they feel week they are pretending to be weak , always the victim , always someone else's fault , while they still being toxic and pretending to be an angel sent from heaven.
Narcissist don't have empathy and are highly insecure people. Manipulation and gaslighting are their biggest weapon and they use it to the point for self destruction. Be careful not to get attached to someone like because you would go through a hell of a rollercoaster of emotions and its never gonna be enough and you will always think it's your fault but its actually not.
@@bubbaloozy9253 Nancy Marchand didn't live that long.
If I was that old, I’d be more worried about death and what awaits me on the other side. Surely this behavior isn’t scoring any goods points with the Almighty Creator.
People like this just like making drama and fucking with people. For some reason, it's the only thing that makes them happy, even if they refuse to express it.
@@1940limited you realise she was playing a role right... lol
Johnny was a saint
Yes, we've heard 😄
Carmela looks gorgeous here
I’m surprised Carmela even got comfortable enough with livia to call her “ma”
probably an Italian thing
Just think, Livia is based on David Chase’s real mother 😢
She reminds me so much of my own too..
@@left4deadfreak so when she is dying you'll scream at her like tony?
Actually she was based on mine. NPD is a horrible disorder and can’t be cured except by detaching yourself from that person emotionally as and when it suits. Just like Tony does or a David Chase did.
I always felt so bad for her. I would have brought a chair to sit and watch TV for a few hours.
She reminds me of an aunt I had. LOL
Carmela is one of the few people who made Livia fluster. Read her like a book.
Nancy Marchand . Nobody could do Livia like she did
Hard to believe she was dying of cancer at the time. She passed in this role and it was arguably her best work of her entire career hands down
@@wacodraco1558 I read that she got the part, despite the cancer, because she was one of the few women who auditioned who truly understood the character. Since Livia was based on David Chase's own mother, he was surely very careful to get that role right.
"Perpetrator playing victim" is the #1 go-to strategy for manipulative narcissists. I had a close friend like this and the toxicity was too much for any of us to bear.
3:21 Perfect summation of trying to get along with Livia.
Abandoned? Shit. She lives in a nice place, that they pay for and visit regularly. That's being taken care of.
Edie’s hair in this scene is perfection 😍
I'm emotionally drained just watching this.
i wonder how the story would have been if the actress would have stayed alive longer
On read on Wikipedia that the writers were going to create a storyline that Livia was going to testify in court against Tony in federal court and she was going to reveal the stolen airline tickets scheme.
She turns what could’ve been a nice friendly visit from a family member to an unbearable train wreck in the span of 3 minutes.
Carmela always getting rejected trying to giveaway Rigott Pie
It’s actually not very good. LOL My Grandmother made it and I didn’t care for it really. Ricotta is better in savory dishes IMO.
@@Gemmarose9012 it's good if you put chocolate chips in it
I actually love it. I add a little mascarpone to make it creamier. Works with cannoli filling too.
Some of my favorite scenes in this show come from Carmela and Livia. How Carmela is one of the only characters who can't break under Livia's manipulation and realize she's just a miserable narcissist and not entertain it is amazing, something Tony should have learned a long time ago
Livia Soprano was the role of a lifetime for the late, great Nancy Marchand. This was some top-notch acting right here.
"Wait until you're abandoned " and steal 40 thousand from your husband
Ya and how did tony earn the money again?
no wait until you're abandoned and have to order a hit on your son 😂
From da birdfeeda
Guess he should have taken her concern about the family's financial future more seriously instead of being out banging skanks.
My mother was a widow and after my brother and I got older and moved out, my mother started to complain that we abandoned her.
I wonder if Livia had the silver bird package.
Robert Fernandez
8 grand a month?
Cup full of pencils
IT'S A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY
She was abusive to the staff!!!!!!
Always thought it was the Silver Birch package. These Jersey accents are so strong they reinvent the English language.
Came here to say that Carmela is pretty stunning in this scene. She is a WOman ❤️
Powa powa what powa
carmela looks so pretty in this scene
I always enjoy the scenes with Livia. She played the miserable black hole personality perfectly. Too bad she didn’t live longer to be in more seasons.
Maybe one of the greatest scenes in the show. It's a testament to the story writing quality when a personal family drama scene between a woman and her mother-in-law is so amazing in a show about god damn mobsters lmao
The one scene through out the show where I actually liked Carmella!
Carmella figures out toxic and manipulative mothers like that
She was more toxic than Liv ever was.
@@DeepScreenAnalysis no chance
@@DeepScreenAnalysis fake news.
@@DeepScreenAnalysis ok
@@vickjr98 Carmela was a pathetic hypocrite who lived off blood money while spouting off about her Catholic faith and the sanctity of the family. At least Livia knew exactly what she was and didn’t pretend to be good.
Jeez, Carmela has a beautiful hairstyle... wonder if theres tutorials anywhere on how the mimic all the looks she's done over the series?
Livia looks at the past with rose colored glasses. Gee Livia was Johnny a saint when he was seeing Fran Feldstein and you were in the hospital; then he lied to you about where he and young Tony were?
"I made it wit da low fat cheese." "BEEYECH!" 😂🤣
Omg, if this was my mother in law she would drive me to drink. The emotional manipulation and guilt tripping is expert level, what a mind fuck.🤦♀️
Best Advice cut those Kinda Ppl off will Drag you down like a Anchor tied to your foot.
Power what power lol 😂
"powa"
“Junior couldn’t carry Johnny’s shinebox.”
Maybe it's because I've only seen the Sopranos once, but Carmella's a babe and the kind of woman who will stick with you through anything
Livia was a great actor. They all were.
Sometimes carm just looks so hot and other times she looks not hot at all. This is one where she looks hot.
God you’re so right 🤣
Livia was my favorite. She was absolutely nuts!😂🤣
Is that the same pie Jeannie Cusamano's sister tried to turn down so she wouldn't have to write a letter for, umm....Fielder, is it?
Carmella has a scene where she's likable? Who knew.
But that Explosive Volcano in Whitecaps also showed how much she put up with...this scene , early precursor
I would argue most of the scenes shes likable. There’s only a handful of scenes where she’s truly unreasonable.
Yeah I never liked her but to be fair she had a lot to deal with with Tony
@@sergiomendoza4850 She's a phony. Now, go get your Shinebox!
Carmella knows about feminine power.
Good god I could not imagine having a mother like this. Nancy Marchand was excellent as Livia. R.I.P
I lived it.
Livia had the makings of a Varsity Drama Queen.
“Abandoned!? Please, it means I’ll finally have some peace and quiet!”
This just in: the Catholic Church officially declares Johnny Boy Soprano a saint.
Ma as one of my favorite characters. I'm sorry she didn't live longer and stay on the show.
I feel for Livia- she gave her life to her children on a silver platter
Livia is pure evil😂
RIP NANCY MARCHAND,SHE PLAYED THAT CHARACTER TO THE BONE
❤
I really don't think we could've endured too many more seasons with her character anyway.
You cannot not love Carmela she is the show beside Tony
Carmela is fighting a losing battle with Livia. If she has borderline personality disorder which Dr Melfi suggests, there will be a tendency to fear abandonment but equally push people away. To be joyless and manipulative around people.
You can’t win with someone like that, their constant negativity is draining.
This scene is so so relatable lol
Wow she was a great actor. This was such a great scene between the two of them.
Damn i miss this show. Luv your channel keep it up!
On a related note, the late Nancy Marchand puts on a hell of a performance. This old lady is more intimidating with her manipulation than the most violent tough guy piece of shit. Livia Soprano is one of the best realised characters on television, and you feel like this is someone with a genuine personality disorder rather than an actress doing an incredible job. David Chase obviously managed to recall a lot about his relationship with his own mother in order to flesh out this character.
When Carmela means business, she brings the rigot.
Livia was my favorite character on the show.
although this does happen occasionally for the malignant narcissist-jezebel...in most cases their flying-monkeys are way too loyal and both fearful, their trauma-bond addicted servants way too drugged by their own brains secretions to ever let this dormancy occur...they are usually worshiped to the grave and beyond by their sub-ordinates and never left alone ever.
Yep just like my grandmother she has the whole family on strings
katie bon on strings....whadda perfect way to put it.
This is one of my favorite scenes of Carmela.
I'm at least taking comfort in this comments section, reading that others have had the same experiences with their mothers or grandmothers that I had with mine.
Ever heard of stinky bait? It's something so foul, so delicious, the old catfish can't help but bite it..all he gets for his trouble is a treble hook in his throat. These people throw out stinky bait all day long. If nothing bites, the bait gets changed to something stinkier. The point is always the treble hook, tho, friend.
I hate watching this scene due to the situation, but the acting is FIRST CLASS!
Carmella never had the makings of a varsity fat cheese cook.
Carmela loved her like a mother in law
Ricotta pie?
I'd rather have grilled cheese, off the rad-e-ator!
I've got a mother just like that
Edie Falco's accent was heavy heeyah
Booo
Carm was such a baddie
Reminds me of my mother lol 😂 😂
@Isabel Beckerman eh well she hasn't tried to put a hit out on me lol
Nancy Marchand did such a great job 😭😭😭
Can you imagine Jr knocking her down. Eyuuuuuck
Am I the only one who finds this scene hilarious? In a dark way sure, but still. Comedy black gold if you ask me. Both actors are perfect, Marchand must have had a great time playing Livia.
i love carmelas hair
Edie Falco looking pretty hot here!!!!
First scene where Carmela is doing right..
Carmela was fine af
I’m not sure why she gifts those Ricotta pies to people, there are much superior Italian desserts.
Probably because Carm was extremely stubborn and didn’t want to learn how to cook anything else. Even Junior’s Pignolis ( a far superior Italian baked good) couldn’t crack her
Vera Farmiga who played Livia in Many Saints also played Norma Bates. Think they’re very similar characters. No coincidence they named the protagonist of the Sopranos “Anthony”.
Actually I'm pretty sure it is...
@@JeremyBearimy913 It really isn't.
@@mikehinchliffe9163 Prove it
@@JeremyBearimy913 I'll just go ring David Chase
@@mikehinchliffe9163 Well, until you do, or at the very least, find a quote confirming the connection, it's literally impossible to determine the name "Anthony" to be anything more than coincidence.
How would the little mermaid had turned out if Nancy Marchand played Ursula
Did we ever get an interview from Nancy Marchand (Livia Soprano) on her character?
And people miss that moment that Livia pretty much told Carmella...that her marriage will be ... nothing
I also like that Carmella ends up falling for her manipulation anyway
I had such a big crush on her she is still beautiful
Livia was one hot GILF so I’m with you on that
@@dspsblyuth umm.. bro they were talking about Carmella
Why can't I unsee the thought that Livia is Tony in drag?🤣🤣
Biden 1:19
I loved Livia
Me too
What, are you fucking insane?????