Philips FR930 MkII receiver with simulated AM Stereo
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- This 1993 A/V receiver has a hi-fi wideband mono AM tuner, and if you turn on its "simulated" surround sound mode, it puts a delay (adjustable between 5 and 40 mS) between the channels to give a Duophonic-type fake stereo effect. I demonstrate with 1250 WMTR and a few other local AM stations. Other Philips models with the same wideband AM tuner include the FR910, FR920, and FR940 receivers and the FT920 tuner.
This is the Philips I remember . I always like the finish and look of their products.
I was listening with headphones and when you pushed the simulated button, it was pretty trippy.
Holy crap. That actually works surprisingly well. Sounds pretty good
I love simulated surround especially from pioneer receivers.
There is a Facebook page dedicated to fans of the Philips 900 sett. Would be great to see you do a review of this reciever . Your reviews are always good and cover everything.
I have the amplifier fa930 (without tuner) and Im so happy with him, sounds awesome! with magnat all ribbon 6 speakers :-)
Awesome sounding Unit, I am impressed. I have the matching dual cassette deck
here.
I'm not sure I really like the idea, but it does have a "stereo-like" sound to it that I can appreciate.
3:42 - 4:12 SPORTS!!!!
That's a good oldies station you have there. You're probably tired of hearing the same stuff over and over again, but for me it's quite refreshing!
The simulated stereo is surprisingly good. That's better than regular AM, but this is only my opinion...
Pretty sweet receiver. I dig how it has A+B zone playback. Pretty neat you can simulate stereo on AM across four speakers.
Oh my god I had this very unit and bought it new in 1993 at the Sears in Watchung, NJ. I had it hooked up to my Pioneer LD player, Sony ES 5 disc changer and paradigm speakers for surround. All in my room at my parents house! I played Star Trek VI and it shook the entire house very powerful unit. Listen with good headphones to virtual surround. It's very cool!
I owned a FR940, bought it brand new for $349.99. I was torn between the FR940 and a similarly-specced Denon, until the salesman pulled both units from the shelf and showed me the power transformers between the two. The salesman then cranked both up 1/4 way, the Philips was much louder and the Denon's backlit LCD display flickered with the bass. It was a no-brainer at that moment.
It worked like a BEAST until I had it plugged into one outlet at my grandmother's house, hooked up a turntable that had to be plugged into another outlet (wired in reverse), and KABLOOEY I blew out ALL the output transistors. Picked up an eBay parts machine but never got around to fixing it... "One of these days..."
That Simulated function gives the sound a little bit of reverb type sound. It sounds like the right channel is on a slight delay from the left.
Sounds like some of those soundalike albums that came out in the early 70s. And that ghastly sereo version of "When A Man Loves A Woman" that was a UK hit in 1987: ruclips.net/video/iaHDKtremIQ/видео.html
couple of thoughts here..first off,TY for the vid,im watching it in 2019 after buying one of these units.
i came here to see if it was worth hooking up,and youve convinced me.
thanks again!
what a really good system I love it great sound from it mate
AM sounds awesome with that simulated surround sound! It doesn't distort the audio at all, it just adds a bit of depth to a mono recording. I'm not sure I'd use it on stereo though.
Normally I'm not a fan of things like this, but on this receiver, it works out perfectly, and you can turn it off. A lot of newer receivers have surround settings that add all kinds of crazy reverb to make it sound like an auditorium, church, etc... and then EQ presets for rock, pop, TV, etc... and in some cases, you can't even turn it off and just have the normal, undistorted audio! You just gotta find the setting with the least amount of destruction to the audio.
Also, someone mentioned that it looks cheap... audio and video components certainly weren't much to look at in the '90s, but there was still a lot of great audio equipment available in any electronics store. These days there's a very limited selection, unless you go online.
Sounds pretty good for simulated stereo!
Wow, that thing was taken REALLY good care of. I'll still take my Technics SA-AX530 for all of its inputs and stuff.
That is still a really great unit, regardless. Good find.
Sounds decent. And the simulated AM stereo reminds me of the "Ambiance" setting that were used on some Panasonic boom boxes.
About a year ago, I found a 1994 Sony amp/receiver at my local thrift shop and got it for only $20! The only thing wrong with it is that the big circular knob for the volume was stolen by someone before my but you can turn the potentiometer for the volume. I still use the amp today and it sounds great! Edit: It is a 1994 Sony STR-D915
I must say I do like the sound better with all effects off… Good receiver! If only we had (more) Wideband AM (Stereo) tuners in Europe… Most of the tuners here are narrowband for AM; AM Stereo is an absolute rarity here… Especially nowadays.
this is an awesome channel I love the old music.
i am not a big fan of phillips ... but i really like this tuner...the looks and the way it preforms ...
Kind of reminds me of the sound from my old Radio Shack Simulated Stereo box that i used with my VCRs before I got Hi Fi units.
I think I remember being able to receive WMTR when I was camping in Vernon,. NJ. There was also an excellent classic rock station of FM there, '103 NNJ'.
wow that sound's awesome
Sounds really good ! Yes there is a faint stereo image
Hmm not bad but you can't beat true > imo !
Listening again 9 years later it does actually sound amazing for a mono station. Nice job
Great review! I wish we had a AM station like WMTR over here in Germany, but it seems all good AM stations are closing down.
Huh by early 90's I did not know that you could even get a wide-band function on any black receivers, pretty cool. I like it on my Pioneer 7800 tuner.
With the Haas effect that this receiver and am guessing other receivers from the 80s and 90s utilize to create fake stereo as a choice, there’s going to be phase issues when converted back to mono. With the technology we have today, there are some stereo plugins that can widen mono mixes without sacrificing the original mono audio.
Where on earth do you get all of these radios/tuners from?? I'd love to own a few myself :) you are a lucky man!
I like the look of this one, not too many knobs or buttons
Great video, great brand!
I do miss my AM-stereo tuner -- though not worth replacing it just so I could get one station. C-Quam had the advantage of noise reduction, but it's tough finding stations that still have exciters in operation.
I have an Aiwa NSX-V8000 mini-system from 1996 with a similar simulated stereo mode though it's more complex. It's the "Live" Surround setting. Instead of doing a simple Duophonic-style delay, it seems to add stereo echoes to the original mono signal to simulate "early reflections" in a small room environment. It works nicely on talk and percussion but just smears sustained notes to make them sound a bit phasey.
Kind of sounds like those electronically reprocessed for stereo vinyl records.
Beautiful piece of machine, looks like new, i would like to have that Philips line.
@Jordan Johnson I am unable to reply to your comment the normal way, so hopefully you'll see this. Many (but not all) HD Radios can decode C-Quam AM Stereo. Also, you can get new AM Stereo radios from Japan. See: www.amstereo.org/ and click on Receivers.
The simulated stereo is interesting, but it seems to increase the hiss a bit.
Sounds great its a good effect
sounds like a heavily compressed mp3. very interesting. indeed.
SOUNDS GREAT!!!! AND THATS NO LIE
It sounds like the simulated stereo throws a slight delay effect over the signal.
It sounds like the simulated surround sound/stereo expand option of Samsung phones (with a lot more reverb). Sounds cool but probably will give you a headache after a while. I wonder how it sounds on speakers! Probably a lot better.
WMTR sounds a lot like Gold in the UK.
Just like listening to KYA or KFRC in the SF Bay Area in the 60's.
Here in my city there was an AM Radio Station that broadcast in Am Stereo.
the simulated effect makes me think the band is down a concrete hallway to the left of me.
what this does is make the left speaker at a later phase than the right giving it the wideness
Thank you, I could not wrap my head around how that worked
My guess is that is a differential stereo. It adds a short delay to one channel making it sounds like stereophonic audio. Not bad though.
Oh, wow... I hate it! I hate all forms of simulated stereo. Sorry... Neat box, though. :)
Just move your balance control all the way to the left or right, and you'll get plain mono. But if you ever want to recreate the sound of "Duophonic", one of these receivers will do the trick!
I know what you mean, I have some "digitally remastered" versions of old songs that were originally recorded in mono, but with the processing that's been done to give them a "stereo" sound, it just sounds awful though headphones.
+vwestlife ok
+CoolDudeClem downmix back to mono then? o_o
AM 1250 kHz, equivalent to 9 kHz is 1242, 1251, 1260 kHz (here in the Philippines).
It just lets you detect the compression artifacts of the AAC of this video more XD
You do get used to it after a while though, and it just sounds like mono after that.
sounds pretty good, in NL there arent many good radio stations :c
But these Philips units are easier to get here though.
Not bad at all, The simulation effect isn't great though.. I've heard far better on Sony radios.. But that is a very high quality tuner though.
Ufff,....Fabuloso....
I have heard FM stereo stations that sound worse than this 😄 cool effect I wish I had a radio that does this.
I do some radio and dxing videos on my other channel Group Galaxy video gaming
The simulated AM stereo sounds duophonic.
7:26 Damn, gotta go re-watch Metropolis now. ^_^
Any help with the screen not turning on? It worked fine once then never came back on...otherwise works fine
The receivers built by Phillips a do have weight too them.they are classy and clearer than these cheap new receivers. Made know with there higher prices.
I saw a philips cd changer once but did not get it. and a pioneer LD deck that had a dead display didnt get that neither. I wonder if AIWA borrowed thier receiver's designs from philips.
OMG the philips CDI... That's a crap system
There are some good games for it, for example the Apprentice. I found it at a thrift, and so far only played it for a bit on an emulator. Fun, but the controls of the emulator are non-changable, which is a shame. I really need to get a CDI just for that game!
Supercat Mao Ah, instant classic ;)
1:33 - Albert Hammond! I am in Heaven!
I have FR940l lP01 I can't get no sound help me
I had one like this one it was 100 watt surround sound but that person does me that takes me out places and helps me clean my apt he keeps getting after me about my stuff then I just let him throw away what thinks it was trash that's what he throw away with a bunch of other stuff he fill his van up with bunch of my stuff he thinks was trash now he is not allow to come in my place
Is it true this thing is basically useless without the remote? I own one but I don't have the remote and I can't get it out of standby mode :(
this sounds very good for am. Sadly in Europe most of the am stations/transmitters are suspended we all must switch to DAB from the European government and throw away our old radio's. It's getting weirder by the day.
What? I live in the UK and in a lot of areas DAB reception is awful. MW is still being used for BBC Radio 5 and even absolute radio, and FM is still strong. Don't try and delude yourself into thinking the 'European government' is forcing you to change to DAB.
Sometimes I wish I could have experienced more analog TV here in the US (before the 2009 cutoff), but now I feel lucky knowing that in some parts of the world even analog radio is getting replaced! I still enjoy listening to AM & FM, especially skywave AM at night, and seeing how far away I can still hear an FM station while on the highways. For some 50 kW FMs in the eastern US I can still make out the signal 110-120 mi away.
Have you opened it up to see how hard it would be to add one of Chris Cuff's stereo adapters?
Can we still have the full review please?
i hope the hifi manufacturers take notice that there is a market for mid price gear, can you imagine just how good a hifi could be today, with modern tech? wow!.
but instead we get 30 year old designs made as cheap as possible and then sold at daft prices.
its either cheap and shite, very expensive and ok but not a patch on 90's gear or stratospheric priced "digital" hard disk units nobody wants.come on sony, philips and technics you can have my money but you have to build stuff i want.
i lik the sleep mode,, what kinda output does it offer?
What is the bandwidth of AM Stations in the US? Here in the UK AM radio is quite narrow (perhaps 6KHz would be the maximum modulated frequency) and mostly used for speech or minority interest radio. Most of the music stations in the UK moved to FM/DAB years ago.
AM stations in North America are allowed to transmit up to 10 kHz audio bandwidth, and most do. Here's a good example of how good real AM Stereo can sound in the U.S.: ruclips.net/video/KaDhzXShTaY/видео.html
That's very good quality for AM. I believe that AM radio in the UK used to be much wider bandwidth back in the 60's and 70's but we have never had AM Stereo. There were some tests in the early 90's but they were abandoned. We have never had SCA subcarriers on FM either
France Bleu on 864 kHz from Paris was in C-Quam AM Stereo up until they went off the air recently. They could be heard on the southern coast of the UK.
As interesting as this simulated stereo effect is, I kinda find it depressing to listen to all those stations in the video.. it reminds me of the time when we used to have a number of independent stations on FM and AM around here, that used to play a good selection of music.. but over time, they've all closed down or been swallowed up and now it's all wonderful syndicated radio stations with canned DJs.. and syndicated nation wide music.
What is the difference between the straight FR930 and the MKII? I have a "normal" one but am just curious.
I mis my Philips CD-I , playing burn cycle and tennis
Was wondering if you would know the IR code for this receiver? My remote died years ago and i have never been able to find a universal remote that works with it. Not very much information online about this receiver because it is so old. Thanks
having an issue with this, I have a pre set up surround sound to this but cant get the tunner to work or even hooking it up to my tv, perhaps you could please help me out?
I bought a used fr 930 when I play mine on FM it says mono on the screen new you know how to get it into stereo mode? also the volume control on the remote quit working but everything else on the remote does work I have no operators manual for the stereo do you know how to correct these issues? thanks
oldies sound best in sim stereo
Would have been better if all inputs n outputs were also tested to hear if its really good not just the radio.
Like I said, I'm planning to eventually do a full review of the receiver.
Is there a remote code?
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Do you know if there is a brightness control for the front display hidden somewhere? I reacquired one of these from a friend who had it sitting in a basement. It powers up fine, but the display is very dim. Thanks!
It must have been used a lot. Vacuum fluorescent displays do get dim when they've been on for a very long time over the years.
Thanks for your reply. Appreciated.
please tell me more of the specs of this! I own one & have no idea! At list, do you know the power output? Thanks!
Sorry, I don't know what the power output rating is.
2 x 75 w
Together with the fb825 speakers sounds great
esos equipos son muy bueno no los vndes?
tengo uno en venta
At first it sounds good, but like a 3d movie, it hurts after a minute or so.
KHZ what’s that stand for
kilohertz.
@@vwestlife is this the Phillips FR - 50?
@@gunnarbondank3893 No. The model number is listed in the video title.
@@vwestlife my bad
Can someone tell me what's the name of the song that starts at 2:22?
"Spirit in the Sky"
Great! Thank you!
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My guess is that is a differential stereo. It adds a short delay to one channel making it sounds like stereophonic audio. Not bad though.
Where on earth do you get all of these radios/tuners from?? I'd love to own a few myself :) you are a lucky man!
thrift shops and similar places