$269,000 POKER CHEATING SCANDAL - bigbluffzinc Reacts!

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  • Опубликовано: 1 фев 2025

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  • @BBZPoker
    @BBZPoker  2 года назад +12

    Let's solve this amicably in the comments. Did she cheat in your opinion?

    • @YeahNom
      @YeahNom 2 года назад +3

      Yes she has played poker for years, she understands the game.

    • @Steezy93
      @Steezy93 2 года назад +7

      After you pointing out that she has the club and heart blockers in her dumb mind, I'm now leaning more towards not cheating just terrible thought process and call. Nothing she said afterwards made any sense but she is a woman after all lol

    • @JohnJones-yk5qk
      @JohnJones-yk5qk 2 года назад +6

      Yes something between her and her sugar daddy is way off , this isn't a "I'm playing the man" nonsense she's on about

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад

      @@JohnJones-yk5qk Who's the daddy?

    • @Steezy93
      @Steezy93 2 года назад +11

      @@BBZPoker a guy at the table called Rip staked her 50% which was not disclosed to the other players. Also Garret asked her for the money back off the table and she gave it back. Also Doug Polk thinks he spotted some sort of vibrational device, its worth watching his breakdown on it

  • @frankiebeans
    @frankiebeans 2 года назад +19

    "the turn raise is batshit insane" by far the best technical analysis of this hand LOL

  • @Randommmmmmmz
    @Randommmmmmmz 2 года назад +39

    She’s so nervous after she calls because she’s trying to figure out how she’s going to explain this

    • @miamiwax5504
      @miamiwax5504 2 года назад +1

      No she see's his face and thinks she actually might die.. lol

    • @Randommmmmmmz
      @Randommmmmmmz 2 года назад

      @@miamiwax5504 lmao ☠️☠️☠️

    • @Randommmmmmmz
      @Randommmmmmmz 2 года назад

      How is this the most liked comment? Oh, I’m speaking truth!

    • @house684
      @house684 2 года назад

      Or maybe she's nervous because she called with a shit hand.

    • @MrGunningpeter
      @MrGunningpeter 2 года назад

      Speach during hand, Robbi- I gotta scratch my face cos I have shit, She didnt scratch her face because a fly landed on it or it was itchy, Anouncing to table I gotta scratch my face and having shit are linked in robbi s mind.
      The backer ( Rip) says - You gotta pick your spots,
      Robbi to Garret - Do you want me to call ? Rip - I vote NO
      Robbi call immediately . Strange but true.

  • @remsavirempoker6876
    @remsavirempoker6876 2 года назад +16

    Best analysis of the situation I've seen yet. I'd be curious what other types of call downs she has made this session or the last few sessions. That is useful information to see how likely she is to make "light" call downs.

    • @mrhumble2937
      @mrhumble2937 2 года назад +3

      She called a couple hands drawing dead.

    • @megashira1
      @megashira1 2 года назад +1

      She was debating calling J high another hand when Garrett had a boat.

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      This wasn't a light call down lol. This was all her money and she is being backed.

  • @muferguson
    @muferguson 2 года назад +14

    Thank you for providing a GTO response so we can all finally merge our drama ranges

  • @soulfools4093
    @soulfools4093 2 года назад +6

    @BBZ Poker Coaching do you consider collusion cheating? If so, go to the 2 hour mark of the stream where she plays a AQ vs AQ hand with her backer. (Jacob AKA Rip) Watch him closely, his wink on the turn , and the whistle on the river. How does no money go in the pot on this hand? There is way more going on in this session then just the Garrett hand.. I am a retired dealer and I saw so many things that are questionable. Check out the QQ vs J2o hand. Her hand does not show up on the reader and another player (Mike X) who is not in the hand, reaches over and spreads her cards. Two things here, 1. how does he know her cards are not being read? 2. If I am in a hand and another player touches my cards, that person is going to have a few broker fingers. So, in my opinion one can not conclude if she cheated by looking at one hand in a vacuum. As soon as I saw Rip leave the table and go out and call Garrett a "fucking pussy" I knew from my many years in a card that some how he was involved. Turns out he is her backer and she gave Garrett 65k of his money to Garrett. All is not as it appears in a card room!!!

  • @anthonymorris6801
    @anthonymorris6801 2 года назад +13

    You can not confuse amateur poor play and nervous talking with cheating. This is common with amateur play I have won and lost with their unbelievable bad calls.

    • @anthonymorris6801
      @anthonymorris6801 2 года назад

      @@kylehilfiker917 she's not have you seen her play ?

    • @dimorphos8916
      @dimorphos8916 2 года назад

      Sir have you ever touched 100k+ on a poker table? if not stfu

    • @seanaujila7014
      @seanaujila7014 2 года назад +2

      This also isn’t common amateur play😂😂 No complete amateur buys in for $100,000 and plays 100,200,400(400).

    • @modestomouso1234
      @modestomouso1234 2 года назад

      @@seanaujila7014 just bc she’s playing high stakes doesn’t mean she isn’t a rec, which she clearly is

    • @johnnywang206
      @johnnywang206 2 года назад

      @@modestomouso1234 so why would Rip stake her vs Ivey, Garrett, Eric, and Andy?

  • @MyEmp123
    @MyEmp123 2 года назад +2

    21:00 "This dude doesnt know shit, this dude just stfu."
    Idk why, but i just lost it there at that comment. Ahahaha so fuckibg true

    • @thrylos32
      @thrylos32 2 года назад

      Great instant observation. This guy deserves a 🏅 medal😂

    • @Theo_Channel123
      @Theo_Channel123 20 дней назад

      HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @29memyselfandi
    @29memyselfandi 2 года назад +7

    Good analysis 👏 but I’m just amazed you’ve never heard of Garret Adelstein. Probably the biggest name in the game at the moment.

    • @joaoalegria7578
      @joaoalegria7578 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I was shocked by this too 😆

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад +2

      I've heard his name mentioned but it doesn't mean much to me. I know his name better than hers (I'd never heard hers before) but I just know nothing about him/how he plays/etc. I study a lot of poker but I do it using tools and don't really watch poker on TV at all.

  • @duhGOATman
    @duhGOATman 2 года назад +7

    She was playing pretty well previous streams I think it either blatant stupidity or cheating. She has someone who knows the run outs possibly her boyfriend whos at the table playing, I really don't think shes calls off 100k that fast on a hero call lol.

    • @scratchnoff7609
      @scratchnoff7609 2 года назад +2

      Just luck .I do it all the time, I've clean tables online doing it

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      @@scratchnoff7609 what site because I want to play you if you call huge bets with zero draw and Jack high.

  • @ThisIsPatRyan
    @ThisIsPatRyan 2 года назад +16

    While watching the stream I just assumed she made a dumb call got lucky and that was that. However at the time I was unaware that RIP who was also sitting at the table staked her. Giving Garret back the money is also a red flag as no one would do this unless they felt guilty in a way and just wanted the situation to disappear.

    • @jamesbroomfield7799
      @jamesbroomfield7799 2 года назад +3

      She's supposedly being staked by 3 different ppl. Rip being one of them. I don't think her play has anything to do with rip staking her. But I can see why he was upset with Garrett but she's a female and Garrett wins tons off this game and soon as he gets caught with hand in cookie jar now everyone is cheating, so imo, this why rip was upset. Because he saw one of his peers being bullied into paying money back that was won fair and square

    • @ghostyff9183
      @ghostyff9183 2 года назад +4

      She gave the money back because of the pressure of the moment, and the fact she literally doesn't care about the money she just wants to play poker on camera. Saying someone cheated because they did something stupid and got lucky is asinine.

    • @mrhumble2937
      @mrhumble2937 2 года назад +2

      Cheaters are to greedy to give money back, they'd probably double down and make sure they keep the money.
      But everyone's different. I saw a player mis read his hand, thought he had a straight so called. Gave the money back, just out of empathy.

    • @goodcitizen5104
      @goodcitizen5104 2 года назад

      If I’m rich and knowing the face of pokerGarrett accusing me of cheating. I would also give the money back knowing everyone would believe Garrett and can ban me from ever playing high stakes again. For some there image is more important. I’m glad we now see the real Garrett and his poker bro Doug bitch boy Polk.

    • @zachfamoly4965
      @zachfamoly4965 2 года назад

      Yup

  • @mrx7181
    @mrx7181 2 года назад +4

    i agree. there is no middle ground. and based on how shes played and showed a decent understanding of the game at certain points, i lean towards something is going on here.

  • @x27off
    @x27off 2 года назад +2

    Perfect analysis. She puts her foot in her mouth so many times, contradicting previous statements and not comprehending the board, which is why this is either cheating or the craziest amateur hour move I’ve ever seen.

  • @MOOOMIX
    @MOOOMIX 2 года назад +6

    What would the world think if she actually lost both runouts to Garrett? Would Garrett still have accused her? Would poker pros and community still question her? Or would they just look at her like a big donk who punted her money?
    I think the poker world is a bit results oriented right now!

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад +3

      Yeah I tend to agree that if she lost both it probably would have been laughed off more easily/investigated less.

    • @radoslawkurczab8265
      @radoslawkurczab8265 2 года назад

      Then it would mean that she is dumb. So the analysis is still correct

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      I think it still would have been suspicious but she would have mucked her cards and Garrett wouldn't have known till he watched the feed later. Still would be questionable.

  • @Sim_racer_40oz
    @Sim_racer_40oz 2 года назад +2

    Some one asked her “ you have pocket 3s she says no ! They asked her “ do you have a 3 she says no “ and a 3 would not be a blocker ! She says she has blockers ! More then one .

  • @untouchable360x
    @untouchable360x 2 года назад +2

    Ask every married man. "Has your wife ever done something illogical and she couldn't quite explain why?" I guarantee you that almost all of them will say yes.

  • @mightypensword
    @mightypensword 2 года назад +17

    I agree that she's probably not cheating. I've played with many people live who make terrible plays like this. They all have 2 things in common: no understanding of poker, and money doesn't matter to them. Maybe Garrett just hasn't played with any truly terrible players for a long time, and doesn't realize they're out there?

    • @alexkolanis007
      @alexkolanis007 2 года назад +6

      Like this? Really? Full time poker player here, been grinding live for 7+ years. Only ONCE have I ever seen anything like this. Romanian geezer bet and calls off with K high on wet board. But was a paired, low board and he was clearly totally clueless and tilted.
      Remember she's calling off a 5x 3bet shove with what any player would understand is nothing. If you see that in your games please let me know where your located and I'll see you next week!

    • @ericnoel4768
      @ericnoel4768 2 года назад +1

      @@Steezy93 crazy yes but most aren't stupid

    • @krazykorean2525
      @krazykorean2525 2 года назад

      people are overreacting imo. it's fucking poker. this is like getting mad in a game of tic-tac-toe

    • @lloydchristmas1086
      @lloydchristmas1086 2 года назад +5

      @@krazykorean2525 people forget poker is gambling and theres tons of fish, whales and generally dumb people making outrageous calls and winning because yes afterall there is a lot of luck involved.

    • @krazykorean2525
      @krazykorean2525 2 года назад +1

      @@lloydchristmas1086 agreed. i play poker and i still believe it's 90 percent luck due to cards. is there skill? minimal bare minimum i'd say. it's all luck mostly and people who say otherwise are full of shit imo.

  • @peksi507
    @peksi507 2 года назад +1

    I was waiting literally for you to react to this😅

  • @voyxu143
    @voyxu143 2 года назад +4

    You nailed it.
    It's much simpler for a person to make a horrible play than it is to rig a cheating system on an online recorded poker stream.

    • @ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available
      @ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available 2 года назад +1

      She's not a total novice who has no idea what she's doing. She's won money in all three of the Hustler's streams she took parts in.

  • @energyequilibrium7645
    @energyequilibrium7645 2 года назад +2

    Okay first thoughts. I think her table talk after the hand, trying so hard to overcompensate and convince everyone that she makes these calls often. Which is interesting because from my POV “often” can be very indicative if we see what % of the “often” calls she wins in these type of hands. Looking at that first should be the first thing to do imo.

  • @andrewdixon7894
    @andrewdixon7894 2 года назад +2

    The only argument in her favour is thats she's bad at poker

  • @lauriec8440
    @lauriec8440 2 года назад +1

    She called his allin on TURN. He hits on river, and it’s a non-issue. How is her making a donk call cheating?

  • @ChrisWolfe31
    @ChrisWolfe31 2 года назад +1

    The fact that she thought she had a bluff catching hand tells you she has no idea how to play the game. People accusing her of cheating give her way too much credit honestly. It's not even her money that she was playing with either, she was being staked by Rip who was also at the table.

  • @rikispanglaz7423
    @rikispanglaz7423 2 года назад +1

    " you keep letting me do this to you ...I'm just testing it " Garret should have said what the new vibrator 😂

  • @josedelorbe1983
    @josedelorbe1983 2 года назад +2

    If she didn’t cheat…why would she walk out the poker room with $135k in chips? I truly believe that those are signs of guilt. She cheated that man 💯%…

  • @JoeyIGT
    @JoeyIGT 2 года назад +2

    I think the pitfall here for people who want to believe that she cheated is over-analyzing her words and behavior during the entire hand. These poker geniuses are expending the grand total energy required to analyze the greatest unsolved mathetical problems when the issue really only requires the simplest explanation. we can all agree that unless proven otherwise with incontrovertible evidence (not conjecture and/or speculation), she's not a cheater but a donk who got lucky in her most stupid momen

    • @jackbenimble7301
      @jackbenimble7301 2 года назад

      EXACTLY trying to give a response as to why she did it makes no sense whatsoever and its what a guilty party (guilty of making a bone head move) does and she did it the thing that people dont understand is this IF IT CAN HAPPEN IT WILL HAPPEN

  • @miltonthatherton1375
    @miltonthatherton1375 2 года назад +2

    Cheating on a live stream to get a coin flip? Makes no sense. Running it twice? Makes no sense (unless she knows the runout of the deck which doesn't seem possible). She made a similar type of hero call against an Adelstein bluff representing a flush on another day that was legit, and everyone was super impressed. I think she was keen to replicate that and convinced herself the situation was similar.

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      What did she have? Jack high? I bet she had at least a pair in the hand you refer to.

    • @miltonthatherton1375
      @miltonthatherton1375 2 года назад

      @@teddyj5187 She did. It was a much easier call to justify I don't deny.

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      @@miltonthatherton1375 was that this stream or one earlier so I can see.

  • @TheTruthDon
    @TheTruthDon 2 года назад +2

    Cool analysis man, I agree with you. The hand during live is extremely suspicious and Ludacris. Even if he doesn't have much, no made hand, it's so unlikely that J4 can even be ahead. Like you mentioned, any J, Q, K, A, not to mention pairs and made hands. He also bet almost pot, showing strength and then went all in, so not much of a weakness tell. You think with the vibrating chair footage, like okay maybe she was relayed information to let her know that he needed to still hit otherwise she wins. Then the clean runout and she chose twice also because that was in her favour also. She mentions blockers too much which doesn't make sense because she doesn't block anything except for what he has and she shouldn't have any clue about what he has if she remotely thinks J4 can call the all in(Range wise). Perhaps it was a gangrene play but check out some earlier hands, with the vibrating chair and another hand v Garrett. He had a Q4 fullhouse and she had J8, literally the worst hand available and she tanks and uses a time chip. The min raises are also bizarre to me, still can go either way and no real proof yet.

    • @eguchisatoshi
      @eguchisatoshi 2 года назад

      ギャレット→相手のハンド見えてる
      ロビー→結果がわかっている。

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад

      Thanks for coming in and yeah the other part is when she has the best of it she has to fade hell for outs... And if she's wrong and has the worst of it she's probably drawing dead...

    • @TheTruthDon
      @TheTruthDon 2 года назад

      @@BBZPoker That's right, still so risky and only a good strategy when knowing the run out but that's heavy duty and extremely unlikely. As you said, more so a madness call and poker being poker just rewarded her.

    • @radoslawkurczab8265
      @radoslawkurczab8265 2 года назад +1

      even if Garret had a 10 or 9 she would loose. So she had to know that his strongest card is an 8. She looses against anything from 9 upwards. She knew he had an 8 or less or she doesn't know anything about poker then what is she doing there. 9,10,J,Q,K,A beat her. Even J as she had 4 with it

  • @Fatality101
    @Fatality101 4 месяца назад

    I honestly don’t see what the fuss is about. I’ve seen people make calls along these lines in my games who don’t think further than “I know he’s bluffing so I’m never going to fold” and the thoughts don’t go further than that

  • @jamesbroomfield7799
    @jamesbroomfield7799 2 года назад +3

    He's in bb not sb. She's in the 1600 straddle. She felt he was bullying her straddle. She doesn't understand the concepts she's been studying. Garrett said I usually run it once but it's up to you. She decides twice. So 2 cards to come and half the deck helps Garrett win. She just doesn't understand poker like pros do. So it's not crazy for her to think Garrett was just trying to push her around with 2 garbage cards

    • @chriskio1790
      @chriskio1790 2 года назад

      James U are so right

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      But she had two garbage cards. Some better spots to make a call like this.

    • @jermainejefferson5338
      @jermainejefferson5338 2 года назад

      @@teddyj5187 his cards were worse than hers.

    • @teddyj5187
      @teddyj5187 2 года назад

      @@jermainejefferson5338 he had like 20 outs his cards were way better when he shoved. Flush, open ended straight draw. She had nothing but a jack with 4 kicker.

    • @jermainejefferson5338
      @jermainejefferson5338 2 года назад

      @@teddyj5187 he still needed something to complete his hand. He had nothing. Point blank

  • @scooter-alchemy
    @scooter-alchemy 2 года назад +3

    Even a beginner would fold that hand, and she wouldn’t be at that high stakes game if she sucked

    • @ghostyff9183
      @ghostyff9183 2 года назад

      Lol these high stakes games are built around players like her.

    • @scooter-alchemy
      @scooter-alchemy 2 года назад

      @@ghostyff9183 the private ones might be but not the televised ones

    • @ghostyff9183
      @ghostyff9183 2 года назад

      @@scooter-alchemy if u assume everyone you see playing on TV is good you're wild. It's 90% fish

    • @scooter-alchemy
      @scooter-alchemy 2 года назад

      @@ghostyff9183 are you saying 90% of that table are fish ?

  • @ckysusanliu
    @ckysusanliu 2 года назад +1

    Does it look like cheating? Yes. Does it any evident to prove it beside the hand? NO!

  • @dimorphos8916
    @dimorphos8916 2 года назад +6

    THANK YOU SIR!
    I swear it annoys me how this mass of people who clearly don't play above family night poker are justifying her action 😬 its so annoying.

    • @thorstenortner4386
      @thorstenortner4386 2 года назад

      @MAE98 this call has nothing to do with GTO. Only 3 plausible scenarios. Either she misread her hand, she is plain stupid or she cheated

    • @WillPage
      @WillPage 2 года назад

      Hell yeah!

  • @jtrombinoiii
    @jtrombinoiii 2 года назад +1

    She made it day 4 of WSOP main, and is 3-0 at Hustler casino against a pretty solid line up.

  • @cabbiechuck
    @cabbiechuck 2 года назад +2

    I am impressed. I subscribed based on your analysis. I feel 95% confident she cheated. My assessment thus far is base on additional CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence, but it all points in that direction.

    • @scratchnoff7609
      @scratchnoff7609 2 года назад

      Yeah it's a hero call back in the 90s we called it a donk call if she plays online it's in her game...there no cheating it's called poler

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад

      Thanks for subscribing even though you had a different opinion/interpretation! I'm impressed too ;)

    • @winningbackthegirl
      @winningbackthegirl 2 года назад

      @@scratchnoff7609 seems like you’ve been proven wrong

  • @andrewvillanueva3722
    @andrewvillanueva3722 2 года назад +1

    How can she call if she had nothing for 129,000.00. Not even a piece of the board. How can she make a call like that.

  • @sriracha9729
    @sriracha9729 2 года назад

    I have seen these kind of tilt calls 100s of times in our 500$ games. You 3 bet someone a couple times and they start calling you with any 2. However, someone said she won in all 3 streams, also she might be really rich, but for 130k, you wouldn't be making those tilt calls.

  • @Gmexican
    @Gmexican 2 года назад +2

    Hey BBZ don't you think it's weird that during the run out and Garrett is soooo interested in finding out what she has because he doesn't actually know so his picking for information and even says that's all you on the first runout because he is making up hands for her as the first card flops. She doesn't do that. Even with the Ace in the second run she doesn't react as if damn I at least lost one or both. Her reaction is that of I won both hands I know it. Only possible way is she knew what he had and had no reason to worry...her composure and reaction are what don't make sense.

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад +1

      Those are good observations. It's an interesting hand but for me the statistics are really powerful here. I think it's just very unlikely someone is cheating (obviously not impossible) and you can stack up a lot of things that point to a higher probability of it but have the base rate so low that it's still just more likely she made a bad call.

    • @Gmexican
      @Gmexican 2 года назад

      @@BBZPoker I agree there's more reasons to think it's just a bad hand. The investigation from Hustler's casino is necessary to lay this to rest.

    • @29memyselfandi
      @29memyselfandi 2 года назад

      Great point.

  • @jeffwhitelock1013
    @jeffwhitelock1013 2 года назад +2

    When she raised the turn shouldn't he have folded?

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад

      No her raise was too small. His hand is either a call or a shove and both plays are probably reasonable.

    • @jermainejefferson5338
      @jermainejefferson5338 2 года назад

      yes he should have. these nerds don't know what they're talking about.

  • @ЕрмаковЕвгений-к5в
    @ЕрмаковЕвгений-к5в 2 года назад +2

    If you really want to solve this hand, you can watch the whole stream. And see questionable plays when she has AK vs A8, Set of JJ, and JJ vs Reuske. And alot of people say that she called because she was bullied by Garret, but it wasnt true, there were no hands where he took her off her hand with big bets, its just playing victim. Alot of simps in there as well. And there was another steram, where she floats 2 streets with AK against Garrets K5, gets there on the river with an Ace, Garret shoves and she calls, he just says nice hand. Because he play was qustionable, but reasonable.

  • @bryannaylor6341
    @bryannaylor6341 2 года назад +1

    Her story changed multiple times and she gave the money back. She knows not only what he has but also what will come. Her body language is as if she’s waiting for info to be communicated.

    • @TheSSUltimateGoku
      @TheSSUltimateGoku 2 года назад +1

      She hasn’t changed her story she was yell at it was ordered by the producer to go in a hallway with him face-to-face very easy to be intimidated. Not to mention if there was drama she didn’t want to cause that. You can clearly yelling in the back.

  • @ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available
    @ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available 2 года назад

    No player, who's made a stupid call but still won, would even consider returning the money

  • @jtrombinoiii
    @jtrombinoiii 2 года назад +3

    People keep saying she sucks but she is crushing the game. FISHY

  • @rikispanglaz7423
    @rikispanglaz7423 2 года назад +1

    Coach -"statically speaking she's cheating ...um I mean .." I hear no lies coach 😂

  • @calebjohnson5438
    @calebjohnson5438 2 года назад +1

    She has yet to make this call and lose. Small sample size, but still would expect to see this call off and lose 100 times before 1 where she calls off and is right. Also claims to have "done this off stream" which is both an admission to something not accused and admission that shes 2-0 on this type of call off.

  • @lincolnjeon2666
    @lincolnjeon2666 2 года назад +1

    her reaction is the worst.
    that is not a bluff cather face .

  • @johnny207
    @johnny207 2 года назад +1

    I agree 100% with him, he’s so good that he already pinned Eric as an asshole within minutes. This took the rest of the Poker world a month or so and a slightly larger sample than Eric beating the cry baby Helmuth. 😊

  • @sportsglobal9527
    @sportsglobal9527 2 года назад +1

    I don’t think there’s any other explanation then she is cheating cause nobody puts in 100k with just the river to come with jack high she’s beating none of his bluffs and even against hands like he’s got he’s probably still marginal favourite but against any hands like ace high king queen queen jack etc she a massive underdog, don’t see how she can explain this play unless she has a history of playing ridiculously poorly against Garrett in past. It would be interesting to see other hands played between these two and see what hands she folds against him cause witnessing this play she shouldn’t fold any if she’s going all in with jack high with just river to come.

    • @MOOOMIX
      @MOOOMIX 2 года назад

      But wouldn't you think if she were cheating, she would pick a spot where she's better than flipping in equity to call all-in?

  • @geoffbeyer1873
    @geoffbeyer1873 2 года назад +1

    Garret aside, Andy in the back in a few different shots has the look of something is suss

  • @jonathangraber3628
    @jonathangraber3628 2 года назад

    i agree with u 100%. the only thing i have to add to this hand is that if it were at 1/2 or 2/5, no one would give a shit and we all just move on to the next hand. cuz its nosebleeds stakes, now its the hand heard around the world. also why would a cheater give back over $125k off the table. makes no sense she was cheating. she just sux at poker (with an unlimited bankroll)

  • @jwr3289
    @jwr3289 2 года назад

    The fact she says if the jack wasn't a club like she had flush outs on the river when she doesn't and says I put you on ace high is suspect as hell, and if she misread her hand and thought she had Jack 3 then she must of thought it was a diamond as well as the 3 of hearts is out.....

  • @rikispanglaz7423
    @rikispanglaz7423 2 года назад +1

    Guys says call of the year instantly polarize her either cheating or the greatest call ever , jail or poker hall of Fame no in between 🤷

  • @amiralavy4431
    @amiralavy4431 2 года назад +1

    Well said 👏

  • @stevent6614
    @stevent6614 2 года назад +1

    As long as there is a possibility to cheat then people will find a way. Just knowing that card readers exist and is fed to a live stream, how could anyone say that cheating is impossible? It is not impossible, and actually appears to be fairly easy, with the right connections. I only know that this hand was the perfect hand that everyone should be able to clearly identify as cheating, if there ever was one, this would be it

  • @allinlinden
    @allinlinden Год назад

    Great analysis. Just such a crazy hand. For a little more context, the previous hand to this one, she saw a flop with J3 off. I think she was confused, and thought she had a pair of 3's personally. Garrett still had mad outs. Such a dumb spot to cheat. I think he's just salty missing all those outs! We've all been there😂

  • @mattmurray5933
    @mattmurray5933 2 года назад +1

    Garrett is a total cry baby and bully. Chick was just tired of being bullied. Garrett is totally out of line. People love conspiracy theories. Bunch of weirdos

    • @sportsglobal9527
      @sportsglobal9527 2 года назад +1

      She gave him the money back soon after as he accused her off cheating if she didn’t cheat why did she give it him back

    • @scratchnoff7609
      @scratchnoff7609 2 года назад

      @@sportsglobal9527 cause dude was an easy read she know she'll get it back..

    • @mrhumble2937
      @mrhumble2937 2 года назад

      @@sportsglobal9527 he's the star of the show, she wanted to still play. He said he'd keep playing.
      Cheaters are to greedy to give money back. And he was okay to keep playing with her, he went back to the table until dude started yelling at him.

    • @mrhumble2937
      @mrhumble2937 2 года назад

      Also Garrett said he read her as weak, that's why he went all in. If she knew she would win she would come off as strong.

  • @bonestripper1969
    @bonestripper1969 2 года назад +1

    So if she IS cheating, did she only cheat one ONE hand? If she was cheating, I would think she would cheat on more than just 1 hand

    • @kezman82a
      @kezman82a 2 года назад +1

      She won every session they played. If she is that bad of a player a guess she cheated every session.

  • @johnnywang206
    @johnnywang206 2 года назад

    You don’t understand how she is using her J of clubs as a bluff catcher/blocker. She’s saying that she’s is blocking his exact outs of clubs and straight draws. She’s using this term as though she knows his exact hand. That’s why she’s blocking his hand.

  • @stephenkolman5727
    @stephenkolman5727 2 года назад

    None of her excuses make sense. She says she thinks he had ace high and still calls with Jack high? If you make the hero call knowing your read is correct, you never give the money back.

  • @joaoalegria7578
    @joaoalegria7578 2 года назад +1

    The thing is she has constantly changed her story and clearly lied multiple times.
    Previously I thought it was an obvious cheat. But now I just think it would be nearly impossible, it would have to be an oceans eleven type shit just to blow it in the most obvious possible way.
    One relevant point is she did have J3 the hand before, but I think she was embarrassed that she misread her hand and then tried to play it like a soul read, which is just ridiculous.
    The giving the money back part is weird but her husband is rich, supposedly..

    • @brandonf4196
      @brandonf4196 2 года назад

      it wouldnt be hard. someone taps into the live stream. give someone a cut. hey just send me a signal when its an all in moment and i have the best hand

    • @joaoalegria7578
      @joaoalegria7578 2 года назад

      @@brandonf4196 yeah I think that's the only way it would be possible to cheat

  • @tinman3
    @tinman3 2 года назад +1

    She's not a great player she made a dumb play and it payed off. She should have never gave the money back. She was intimated and he's a crybaby..

  • @hecticrwc
    @hecticrwc 2 года назад +1

    If only she would of turned over the jack at showdown, Garett would of just folded.

  • @tilt2010
    @tilt2010 2 года назад

    It’s just as bad to accuse someone of cheating without proof as it is to cheat. Shame on anyone willing to condemn her without proof

    • @italianwaterice9594
      @italianwaterice9594 2 года назад

      14:01 right middle finger she turns the device around,,, proof

  • @lincolnjeon2666
    @lincolnjeon2666 2 года назад +2

    dude shes in a 100k game,
    lol
    99.99 cheating

  • @blakebarone1809
    @blakebarone1809 2 года назад

    “I did this to you off stream too.” Can someone explain how she’s clueless yet she says this?

  • @526hwi
    @526hwi 2 года назад +1

    He got his money back from her

    • @thrylos32
      @thrylos32 2 года назад

      That's proving even more that she is guilty.

  • @michaellitten6978
    @michaellitten6978 2 года назад

    At 14:05 her ruby ring is facing up. She cracks all her fingers multiple times, then smacks the table and puts her hand under her leg. When she pulls her hand up, the ring is facing her palm 🤔

    • @johnny207
      @johnny207 2 года назад

      😂😂😂😂😂 You’re joking!

  • @etiennecheng974
    @etiennecheng974 2 года назад +2

    I want to see proof that she cheated , for me she is innocent

  • @tomnelson203
    @tomnelson203 2 года назад

    Robbi, is a slightly better than amateur player in my opinion. Probably playing way over her level. Several things contribute to her call here.
    1. She recently played a hand in which he had a set of queens and he only bet half the pot. She reluctantly threw her flush draw away, and undoubtedly made a note of this hand. She likely watched the hand on RUclips her first opportunity.
    2. She knew he did not have a set of 10’s, she knew he did not have any kind of a boat, because in this hand he went all in. What else could he have if he did not have one of those hands other than a draw?
    3. She was apparently the third blind, and people who are fairly new to the game get attached to that extra money that they put in the pot in the form of a straddle. She was more pot committed than she should have been possibly.
    4. She had apparently been bluffed off a hand by Garrett before, as well as other men at the table. She mentioned in her explanation for the call that, men bluff her a lot. That was obviously a frustration for her.
    5. Garrett is a notorious bluffer. He bluffs maybe 15 to 20% of the hands he is in.
    6. Robbi does not think like a professional poker player in my opinion. She would not evaluate all the hands that Garrett could be bluffing that would beat her bluff. While you experts think three or four levels deep, Robbi thinks one level deep, maybe two, like most of us. She’s looking at the board and thinking to herself, “He just went all in. I know he does not have a boat. I know he doesn’t have a set. He must be bluffing.” Or something like that. Because she was emotionally invested in not being bluffed again she made the call.
    7. Look at her expressions and body language after show down. She is clearly embarrassed by her play. She did not even want to show her hand. She is so obviously an amateur, and not cheating, it’s stunning to me that anyone could think otherwise.

  • @kezman82a
    @kezman82a 2 года назад +5

    She won in every session she played. The possibility to win every time when (if not cheating) you are THAT bad at the game is like 1 in 10000 or something. And she should prob soon start losing and have like 30 sessions in a row where she lose.

    • @darrylmeeking6839
      @darrylmeeking6839 2 года назад

      1 in 10000 lolololololol

    • @Tom-df2jc
      @Tom-df2jc 2 года назад +2

      She has played 3 sessions so far and was only up 1k$ which is like 2bb in one of them. You have no idea how variance works.

  • @DocTry86
    @DocTry86 2 года назад

    My only question is. If she was cheating. Is the how? Someone would have had to help her out, but even then, her hands doesn't make sense because the equity of it.

  • @traktors4321
    @traktors4321 2 года назад +1

    She has played some mtts including winning 2k mtt, so cant be that clueless, but theory is that she played the hand as if she had j3 (she had j3 previous hand), which kinda makes sense. Still loads of weird stuff like changing story alot/giving back money/staring at hand and not noticing - sus af.

    • @Paul_pp
      @Paul_pp 2 года назад +1

      she has a year expirience and that win was another player with the same name

  • @Miguelino0708
    @Miguelino0708 2 года назад

    What about all the lies afterwards and the "giving back the money"- part?

  • @TheTheagent07
    @TheTheagent07 Год назад

    cheating is super common i spoke with a retired dealer at the bike that said it was manditory to know how to set up hands......

  • @2017Fed
    @2017Fed 2 года назад

    She thought she had a single 3 in her hand and was embarrassed to admit it. This is obvious. Phil said this also.

  • @teddyj5187
    @teddyj5187 2 года назад

    She actually is a winning player. 1k first stream, 100k 2nd stream and this one. If and big if she is cheating she is trying not to be too greedy but got caught up in the moment.

  • @jarrett1101
    @jarrett1101 2 года назад +2

    This dude's hilarious 😂😂😂
    This dude deserves a medal 😂😂😂

    • @jun-yy7tn
      @jun-yy7tn 2 года назад +1

      😂😂😂🤣

  • @jackryan716
    @jackryan716 Год назад

    If we had past information on Robbi calling people down with J high 10 high etc I would lean towards her being a bad player. But because she hasn't had any previous moments similar to this situation I'm leaning more towards cheating.

  • @jamesbroomfield7799
    @jamesbroomfield7799 2 года назад

    She doesn't understand the lingo and concept of bluff catcher or blockers etc. She's trying to utilize the study she's been doing in these games but still hasn't grasped it all. So she's making bad plays while thinking she's making reasonable plays because she thinks she's using what she's been learning in these games.

  • @twoheadedtasmanian1481
    @twoheadedtasmanian1481 2 года назад

    Everyone saying she’s not cheating that’s she’s just an amateur who made a bad call, I don’t buy that excuse you don’t play a cash game at this level without having a pretty good concept of the game, it’s not like she was getting torn apart before this happened, someone need to go back and check previous plays and see what her % call rate/win rate is like and compare to others that’ll give us some indication on what is actually happening

  • @jarrett1101
    @jarrett1101 2 года назад +1

    She doesn't have a bluff catcher. Lol. She's not even beating most of his bluffs. She might be 50/50 vs his bluff range. She has a bluff-flipper LOL

  • @equalprotection
    @equalprotection 2 года назад

    I don’t understand the controversy. Statistically, it’s a coin toss when she called. Garrett is slightly ahead. Unless she knows the river card…. how can you say she cheated? what’s the logic?

  • @MrGunningpeter
    @MrGunningpeter 2 года назад

    Speach during hand, Robbi- I gotta scratch my face cos I have shit, She didnt scratch her face because a fly landed on it or it was itchy, Anouncing to table I gotta scratch my face and having shit are linked in robbi s mind.
    The backer ( Rip) says - You gotta pick your spots,
    Robbi to Garret - Do you want me to call ? Rip - I vote NO
    Robbi call immediately . Strange but true.

  • @nikolaradevic5815
    @nikolaradevic5815 2 года назад +1

    Man I liked this video 23 seconds in, and honestly should have done it sooner becouse you bring that statistical approach even when it comes to bullshit... loved it, and the presumption of innocence. Shes not quite sure what shes doing, but she will not be bluffed!!!

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад +1

      Awesome I'm glad you liked the video early and I didn't disappoint later!

  • @ЕрмаковЕвгений-к5в
    @ЕрмаковЕвгений-к5в 2 года назад +1

    Cant believe you didnt hear about Garret. Thats bs.

  • @draxtpat6233
    @draxtpat6233 2 года назад +1

    I think it was an airhead mistake. Sometimes chicks get lucky. I really don’t think she understood wtf was going on.

    • @BBZPoker
      @BBZPoker  2 года назад

      Your comment made me laugh :D

  • @sportsglobal9527
    @sportsglobal9527 2 года назад +1

    There’s another video where she gave Garrett the money back after he accused her off cheating

    • @scratchnoff7609
      @scratchnoff7609 2 года назад

      That's a mind game she's pulled on him, she even said she was reading him , she know she'll get it back ..why run it twice if your cheating?

    • @sportsglobal9527
      @sportsglobal9527 2 года назад

      @@scratchnoff7609 why would you give it back if you ain’t cheating and why would you change your story she clearly says she ain’t got a three and just bluff catching after she calls the all in then in an interview afterwards said she thought she had a pair of threes that’s why she called him.

  • @stevent6614
    @stevent6614 2 года назад

    You have a good analysis, but the only problem is that she doesnt suck. Go review the entire stream and you will see that she not once calls and is wrong, and by the way she plays you get the sense that if cheating wasnt an option, I would begin to believe that she just might be the best female poker player out there. I just have a hard time buying the "I dont know what i am doing, therefore, Im going to call off my entire stack (that was staked to her) with no draw, and a jack high. The weirdest thing is that her reasoning for calling was because she had one of his outs, or blockers as she put it. How would she know that the j of clubs was one of his outs, and be so sure of it that you would call off over 100k! Its so crazy! I have never seen this before! Yes stu unger made a 10 high call once, but at least he gave a good explanation as to why he did it, and truthfully, who knows, maybe he was cheating too. I mean, it was vegas in the 80's-90's.

  • @dylancosta705
    @dylancosta705 2 года назад

    You have a poker blog and you don’t know who Garret is?

  • @nathansnelson2083
    @nathansnelson2083 2 года назад +1

    I think the most disturbing thing about all of this, is that Jordan doesn't know who Garrett is 😅

  • @marktarbogast
    @marktarbogast 2 года назад +3

    Agree with your analysis except you're missing a key part of this:
    She claims to have misread her card, thinking she had a three instead of a four. And on the previous hand she had Jack-three.

    • @zachchinn4608
      @zachchinn4608 2 года назад +3

      She was asked if she had set of 3 and or a pair of 3s and she said no. She also looked at her hand multiple times. She also acted like a child caught in a lie when being asked questions. Couldn’t answer straight while trying to think of something but all that came out was dumb shit. If she had a real reason for the call, it would have been easy to explain. In my opinion, she had help with that in some way or another and I am anxious to see what comes of this.

  • @joshsyers741
    @joshsyers741 2 года назад

    All good in saying she MAY have cheated... but if she did... how is it possible???

  • @WillPage
    @WillPage 2 года назад

    Thankyou ... She CANT beat bluffs. This is all I have been saying, and for those who say experts, and garrets alike are expecting everyone to play like them, I am not an expert, and it doesn't take a genius to figure this must be a fold. She is dom'd by all value hands, and loses to 80%+ bluffs. What are we talking about here?

  • @CharlesUFarley778
    @CharlesUFarley778 2 года назад

    People who know nothing about the game don’t play at this level and be bank rolled to do it.

  • @jfrom214
    @jfrom214 2 года назад

    What if she said hey you got 87c or 67 c before the river came out would people be going crazy???????

    • @jfrom214
      @jfrom214 2 года назад

      I got called with 10 high at 2/5 so shit happens at poker unexplained things have happen so me ive seen were people have no clue how to play just still manage win with 10 high lol

  • @richardm306
    @richardm306 2 года назад

    Noway she cheated unless she or whoever gave her a signal knew what the last river card would be....(2 clubs in Garretts hole cards and 2 clubs on flop=4),Garrett had 9 outs of the 13 clubs left to hit a flush on the river..... 3 jacks 3 (6s) instead of 4 each because jc,6c(accounts for flush outs),,,, 3(8s) 3(7s)= 21 outs for Garrett... TOTAL cards used up to the turn is 8 players 2 cards each=(16 cards) 2 burn cards by the turn and 4 cards for the flop and turn = 22 cards used up to the turn, total deck 52 cards minus 22 = 30 cards left in the deck. Garret has 21 total outs.= 21/30 cards for Garrett to hit the river....not exactly great odds for her to cheat without knowing the river card.. i think Garret had almost 70 percent chance of hitting the river provided you take all the outs possibly still in play....basically if cards are all random and no one knows what cards are remaining in the deck and also used up (only reason i said "random cards remaining" is because pros have the odds at 53% vs 47% in favor for Garret to hit the river, they took the 22 cards used up by the turn and divided by 4 for (four suits) which equals 5.5(the average of the four suits likeliness of being evenly in the 22 cards that were used up until the turn.)........ So take the 21 Garrett outs at turn minus 5.5 is 15.5 and divide that by the 30 cards remaining in deck but minus the last burn card before the river draw 30-1= 29 cards now remaining for the river draw=15.5/29 = 53% for Garrett(pro calculated)... would you make that call on the turn? OR////////////// (aiming for Garret to miss his 21/29 outs?assuming all 21 outs can in reality still be in play)...........she is just a very bad player and got lucky this hand...

  • @kellydawson4965
    @kellydawson4965 2 года назад

    1000% cheater said every psychiatrist ever, on demeanor alone

  • @garybjr42
    @garybjr42 2 года назад

    My thing is this, unless she is in the blind, she should have folded pre flop. Even though she has a better face card, he could have had pocket pair of A,K,Q,J or pocket 10 and hit 4 of a kind. I felt his pain

  • @novabrahe
    @novabrahe Год назад

    Don't think she cheated... WHY WOULD SHE CALL A FLUSH DRAW 👀 She likely misread her cards, but doesn't want to look stupid.

  • @scratchnoff7609
    @scratchnoff7609 2 года назад +1

    SHE DIDN'T CHEAT ITS CALED PULLING A DONK MOVE