Someone tell this guy Honda's design work was completed 5 years ago with the HondaE. All they had to do was make it 4 doors, lift it a little and slap in a bigger battery. Would've sold them all! I don't understand why Honda threw that entire language out the door despite everyone loving it
@@Mobile_Dom The e sold ~12k units total worldwide 2020-22 (maybe a couple thousand more in '23-24) -- about half of what Honda inexplicably expected. There's not enough of a market for an upgrade; it's not a Leaf. The OP was right though, they should have kept that design language, at least under the Honda label. The e undersold only due to price/range.
Acura has a good history recently of having concepts looking quite close to production with the TLX and Integra concepts. This is probably further out from actual production than those were though (those concepts were revealed a year before production cars were shown). In terms of video content, I like concepts when they reflect details that could actually hit production. For this video specifically, the interview with Acura staff was great to get into their heads and see what they think about specific details and their thought processes, which affects the eventual production car. On the other hand, Audi as a whole is an example of bad concepts in this regard.
Love it! Nothing wrong with adding more depth to your channel with some inside information, giving us a preview into the future of Honda/Acura. It’s great to give us something exciting to look forward to that you can keep us updated on as this develops from concept to reality. As an enthusiast, I want as much information about where EVs are headed, so I can plan for the future. If the production version of this looks anywhere near as good, I may decide to get this instead of the Rivian R2 I have reserved. Keep doing videos like this! So awesome.
Nothing wrong with covering concept cars as long as we don't try to speculate too much into something that may never be made. This probably will. Let's expect they kick it off with good battery options, good efficiency, NACS and decent driver assistance features. It's not my design preference, but many will like it, I'm sure
I think you have to cover the concepts if you are going to attend different shows. It will give an opportunity to compare the actual production vehicle to production.
Remember the original Honda Passport? "One and done" SUV until their Pilot/Ridgeline/Odyssey platform could be developed. Honda being Honda. Thank you for sharing.
I would have been more interested in what other EV they are targeting with this in order to get a feel for the specs they are seeking. For example the Hyundai/Kia EV's are racking up car of the year awards left and right so are they targeting those vehicles or the MY is the best selling EV so are they targeting it!
5:27 - "NO TINY E FOR YOU...!!!" (best ghost of Soichiro Honda voice) fwiw it's true, as some have observed if you study Honda Mega Corp's history at the Quail whatever "concept" they show, it's a vehicle they ultimately go on to PRODUCE. that Indy Yellow Integra sedan based off the Civic Type-R sitting there (although first shown at the LA Autoshow in 2021) they produced, the blue Ultium Acura ZDX EV concept (that i just charged next to in Honda Prologue form at EA after leaving Corvettes at Carlisle last friday) was first shown at the Quail in 2022 - they produced... and the blue Acura Type S concept (that later became the new TLX sedan) that was first shown at the Quail back in 2019 they produced. the concept was then displayed in November that year in Vegas at SEMA 2019 and i still have the pics i took of it on my phone (while not making it to production, looking close at the details i noticed their use of Forged Carbon trim heretofore first seen only on the Lamborghini Huracan Performante).
The front end looks a bit like a buick, but the rest is really nice. Its well known that acura concepts are pretty much identical to the production cars, so hopefully the design doesnt change much.
It looks great - and I hope they reduce the diameter of the wheels by at least 4" - maybe 5" smaller diameter. And man, the hood is about 2' too long - push the cab forward and gain a bunch of room.
You know it's a classy event when even Kyle is wearing a button down!! Although not a camera friendly design FYI. Some pretty sweet cars there! Kinda glad Honda/Acura are going to their own platform.
I saw my first ev in 1999 when Honda showed off an ev honda civic hatch back. They told me how the top speed was limited and I said they should make it fast
Honda and Nissan will be collaborating on ev's most likely to bring down the cost of the battery platforms because you will have multiple models using the same battery platforms should be interesting to see
I wonder if that wheel, as intricate as it is, ends up in production. Hope so. A designer interview is nice but who knows how much of its design will ever make it to production? An interview with an engineer who could talk about the platform would be better…But how is Honda going to allow an engineering interview on a product that doesn’t have final approval? It tough. But I liked hearing what there was to know about Honda’s plans. It is a big deal.
Concept cars are annoying. I wish manufacturers would just be transparent about the elements of the vehicle they're focusing on from a design and practicality perspective vs trying to make you believe they're going to build what you see. Having someone like Dave talk about these elements is great. Definitely more open about design than what I've seen from other auto manufacturers. I think what would make it interesting is if you took elements that you can clearly see won't work at scale and challenged their thought process to explain how they intend to make it work.
Ultium in 2020 tech. No big loss. Was behind a Honda Prologue in traffic the other day, and that thing has school lunch lady hips😮. So damn wide😅. Looks wider than a Range Rover.
I think it was a fun video; keep doing them when you can interview someone who helped build it. If you were just talking to a marketing person, wouldn't be as interesting, IMHO.
My first gut reaction is that the actual car they end up with will look very different. Not much to this since they don't even show the interior. Just the kind of concept that Kyle hates. But who knows, maybe Honda will surprise me. We know it's going to need side view mirrors.
I didn't really understand what Dave Marek wanted to say with and about the car design (word salad with platitudes) I more got the feeling that something or someone else has designed the car.
Thinking about Acura ZDX and who they think they were selling that to, found out Mercedes EQB were cheaper than their base model of ZDX, and can get the seven-seater a little more of ZDX AWD model.
There are so many slow (and slowly driven) fastback SUVs nowadays that no, they do not scream performance to me. Only lost utility from the lack of height in the rear cargo area. It's supposed to be a sport UTILITY vehicle, remember? Love a design walkaround, though. Those wheels rule.
I like concepts, it is when companies pro.ote it as this will be 95% like the a tual production vehicle, but then deliver something half like the concept vehicle. I think the more recent example is the ID Buzz. Very cool concept, very dull final vehicle. If it is content OoS has time to make, so be it. Those who haye concept vehicles can skip it. I just would not invest a ton of time into it. I knowvrhe Monterey Automoti e events have tons of great vehicles and chances to see things you might not otherwise, so doing quick videos like this is fine.
Is it silly for me to look at this and see ICE proportions? Is that just what people like? Is it the best way to do crash mitigation? Or….range extender?
Honda rebadged the Isuzu Rodeo as a Passport for almost 10 years. Let’s see how much capital they are willing to spend to manufacture their own design and how long they want to drag that spend out to reduce the sticker shock on shareholders. I think GM was the majority shareholder in Isuzu at that time too. Or at least a large shareholder.
Concept car coverage isn't my favorite, it's much more enjoyable to see testing of cars we can buy. The 10% challenge is the best you do and there are so many more vehicles that need that test, just my opinion and what I'm interested in.
Concepts that are 99% close to production yes, but something like this where probably 30-50% of it will change is a waste of time. Yeah we might recognize resemblance of this but that's about it
Why would agencies like FMVSS piss him off? These agencies give designers and engineers a reason for their existence. Are these agencies sometimes slow to react? Sure. But I'm not surprised to hear stupid questions like this from a guy who would tell his elderly father to push a 6,000-pound EV truck up a hill when the battery runs out
@@LLal-kq2cqEVs are perfectly capable of long range. The Lucid Air gets 520 miles of range for example. Most new EVs have 300+ miles. I’d imagine this new Acura platform will be 300-400 range vehicles which is plenty especially if they have good charging specs.
@@jayem8981Thanks for suggestion. Have cooler temperatures during fall and winter so valid concern about battery longevity. I always preferred used cars so concerns about battery longevity. Would also appreciate if thrre was a way to check battery health remaining as on cellphone.
Not really interested in concept cars ... get 'em on the road is my mantra. There's too much sales-speak with this kind of car and, as mentioned before, not interested in sales speak, give me a 1 hour driving review.
This kind of content is fine occasionally I suppose, particularly when you have the designer in tow. But in general, I find concept car content in the same league as "battery breakthrough" videos - all of which are tedious to watch.
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When you have the designer talk through the cars it makes for an interesting video
It’s the Buick Acura version 😂
Really?😂
this thing is horrible
Kyle has upgraded from sweat pants and a hoodie, must be a fancy event.
Someone tell this guy Honda's design work was completed 5 years ago with the HondaE. All they had to do was make it 4 doors, lift it a little and slap in a bigger battery. Would've sold them all! I don't understand why Honda threw that entire language out the door despite everyone loving it
whomever makes a drop in battery upgrade for the Honda E makes bank
@@Mobile_Dom The e sold ~12k units total worldwide 2020-22 (maybe a couple thousand more in '23-24) -- about half of what Honda inexplicably expected. There's not enough of a market for an upgrade; it's not a Leaf. The OP was right though, they should have kept that design language, at least under the Honda label. The e undersold only due to price/range.
The Japanese don't get it.
Acura has a good history recently of having concepts looking quite close to production with the TLX and Integra concepts. This is probably further out from actual production than those were though (those concepts were revealed a year before production cars were shown).
In terms of video content, I like concepts when they reflect details that could actually hit production. For this video specifically, the interview with Acura staff was great to get into their heads and see what they think about specific details and their thought processes, which affects the eventual production car. On the other hand, Audi as a whole is an example of bad concepts in this regard.
Looks pretty cool. It is a concept though. Who knows what it will look like when its released.
Love it! Nothing wrong with adding more depth to your channel with some inside information, giving us a preview into the future of Honda/Acura. It’s great to give us something exciting to look forward to that you can keep us updated on as this develops from concept to reality. As an enthusiast, I want as much information about where EVs are headed, so I can plan for the future. If the production version of this looks anywhere near as good, I may decide to get this instead of the Rivian R2 I have reserved. Keep doing videos like this! So awesome.
Wow, the front bumper totally put the Speed Racer Mach1 into my head.
concept car videos from time to time is not a bad concept
When is the real car going on sale... for real? A Honda-E with triple the range would have been perfect for me...
Never
theyre saying end of next year apparently
Nothing wrong with covering concept cars as long as we don't try to speculate too much into something that may never be made. This probably will. Let's expect they kick it off with good battery options, good efficiency, NACS and decent driver assistance features. It's not my design preference, but many will like it, I'm sure
Tldr this is content I wanna see. Love to see what’s coming down the pipeline, especially when I can have a baseline to compare the actual to!
I like the concept car coverage. This car looks interesting and conversations with designers are great!
I like these for the interview.
Love to see more concept coverage! It's great to have a video where you discuss the ideas and the future of the ev industry
I like videos of concept cars like this that are somewhat close to what the real thing is gonna be like. I liked this video, definitely not boring.
Watch the production version still uses a version of the ultium platform. 😂
I already wrote Acura/Honda and told them I'm not buying this if there is even a hint of GM related to the car.
@@hulkhogansgianttaint9451I’m sure they were devastated to hear that
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It looks like a Buick so there is sort of a hint of GM.
I like covering concepts like this since it is a whole new platform for Honda.
This was a very interesting concept and knowing the design language form will most likely be in the final production is good to know.
Looks like new Buicks
If they're emphasizing that it isn't an ultium product, WHY DID THEY MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A BUICK??
lol. Exactly
Great video, thanks!
This type of video is great. I don't usually like concepts, but talking to the designer makes all the difference.
I think you have to cover the concepts if you are going to attend different shows. It will give an opportunity to compare the actual production vehicle to production.
Remember the original Honda Passport? "One and done" SUV until their Pilot/Ridgeline/Odyssey platform could be developed. Honda being Honda. Thank you for sharing.
Not interested in concepts, but this is special because it heralds the start of a new platform - thanks for covering it.
Beautiful design.
Thanks Kyle if this comes close to production that is a looker! My Model Y still looks like a SUV / Beluga Wale look!
Wow, great interview and dialogue ❤
That looks really good. I hope it comes to market soon and looks this good!
I like it is interesting from the point of new info it is cool to get to know new stuff
I would have been more interested in what other EV they are targeting with this in order to get a feel for the specs they are seeking. For example the Hyundai/Kia EV's are racking up car of the year awards left and right so are they targeting those vehicles or the MY is the best selling EV so are they targeting it!
5:27 - "NO TINY E FOR YOU...!!!" (best ghost of Soichiro Honda voice) fwiw it's true, as some have observed if you study Honda Mega Corp's history at the Quail whatever "concept" they show, it's a vehicle they ultimately go on to PRODUCE. that Indy Yellow Integra sedan based off the Civic Type-R sitting there (although first shown at the LA Autoshow in 2021) they produced, the blue Ultium Acura ZDX EV concept (that i just charged next to in Honda Prologue form at EA after leaving Corvettes at Carlisle last friday) was first shown at the Quail in 2022 - they produced...
and the blue Acura Type S concept (that later became the new TLX sedan) that was first shown at the Quail back in 2019 they produced. the concept was then displayed in November that year in Vegas at SEMA 2019 and i still have the pics i took of it on my phone (while not making it to production, looking close at the details i noticed their use of Forged Carbon trim heretofore first seen only on the Lamborghini Huracan Performante).
Stay with bonafide production vehicles. Leave concepts to the auto shows. I appreciate your real world evaluations.
Concepts are fine, as long as they are close to final product.
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Lol some of the best looking cars on the road. Okay, let's not get carried away now 😂
Great channel! Very informative .. im glad you did not become a Tesla cult channel
wild looking car, i like it
The front end looks a bit like a buick, but the rest is really nice. Its well known that acura concepts are pretty much identical to the production cars, so hopefully the design doesnt change much.
It looks great - and I hope they reduce the diameter of the wheels by at least 4" - maybe 5" smaller diameter. And man, the hood is about 2' too long - push the cab forward and gain a bunch of room.
You know it's a classy event when even Kyle is wearing a button down!! Although not a camera friendly design FYI.
Some pretty sweet cars there! Kinda glad Honda/Acura are going to their own platform.
I saw my first ev in 1999 when Honda showed off an ev honda civic hatch back. They told me how the top speed was limited and I said they should make it fast
Edit I mean 1996
I don't like this, I LOVE it
Honda and Nissan will be collaborating on ev's most likely to bring down the cost of the battery platforms because you will have multiple models using the same battery platforms should be interesting to see
I wonder if that wheel, as intricate as it is, ends up in production. Hope so. A designer interview is nice but who knows how much of its design will ever make it to production? An interview with an engineer who could talk about the platform would be better…But how is Honda going to allow an engineering interview on a product that doesn’t have final approval? It tough.
But I liked hearing what there was to know about Honda’s plans. It is a big deal.
Concept cars are annoying. I wish manufacturers would just be transparent about the elements of the vehicle they're focusing on from a design and practicality perspective vs trying to make you believe they're going to build what you see. Having someone like Dave talk about these elements is great. Definitely more open about design than what I've seen from other auto manufacturers. I think what would make it interesting is if you took elements that you can clearly see won't work at scale and challenged their thought process to explain how they intend to make it work.
Ultium in 2020 tech. No big loss. Was behind a Honda Prologue in traffic the other day, and that thing has school lunch lady hips😮. So damn wide😅. Looks wider than a Range Rover.
I think it was a fun video; keep doing them when you can interview someone who helped build it. If you were just talking to a marketing person, wouldn't be as interesting, IMHO.
My first gut reaction is that the actual car they end up with will look very different. Not much to this since they don't even show the interior. Just the kind of concept that Kyle hates. But who knows, maybe Honda will surprise me. We know it's going to need side view mirrors.
Honda passport will be their EV model. RDX will be the Acura version
Idk, I don't like Accura signature design except the 2004 TL rear end lol. 😅
I didn't really understand what Dave Marek wanted to say with and about the car design (word salad with platitudes) I more got the feeling that something or someone else has designed the car.
This is more inline with what the ZDX should be as far as design goes.
Don’t get attached to this design because production will look very, very different.
Thinking about Acura ZDX and who they think they were selling that to, found out Mercedes EQB were cheaper than their base model of ZDX, and can get the seven-seater a little more of ZDX AWD model.
Looks good but why another SUV we need new NSX ❤❤❤❤
There are so many slow (and slowly driven) fastback SUVs nowadays that no, they do not scream performance to me. Only lost utility from the lack of height in the rear cargo area. It's supposed to be a sport UTILITY vehicle, remember?
Love a design walkaround, though. Those wheels rule.
Add SH-AWD on a $50K starting point and you will have a winner Honda.
Looks interesting but I doubt Acura/Honda will make anything that swoopy.
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I like concepts, it is when companies pro.ote it as this will be 95% like the a tual production vehicle, but then deliver something half like the concept vehicle.
I think the more recent example is the ID Buzz. Very cool concept, very dull final vehicle.
If it is content OoS has time to make, so be it. Those who haye concept vehicles can skip it. I just would not invest a ton of time into it. I knowvrhe Monterey Automoti e events have tons of great vehicles and chances to see things you might not otherwise, so doing quick videos like this is fine.
Thought it was a new Buick concept lol
Is it silly for me to look at this and see ICE proportions? Is that just what people like? Is it the best way to do crash mitigation? Or….range extender?
Honda rebadged the Isuzu Rodeo as a Passport for almost 10 years. Let’s see how much capital they are willing to spend to manufacture their own design and how long they want to drag that spend out to reduce the sticker shock on shareholders.
I think GM was the majority shareholder in Isuzu at that time too. Or at least a large shareholder.
I hope they bring this to production because that ZDX looks like a hurst.
good looking but where do I put my bags when I travel to my cottage?
I send mine on ahead by my footman in the shooting brake, with any overage in the saloon car, since the chauffeur is bringing it along anyway.
Yall see how fast a car can get outdated jus like that. The zdx and the Prologue.
Wow I thought this was the Model y Juniper for a few mins
I like it
Acura has to get rid of the new gm Zdx..! Make there own look!! This looks better!! But it should be hybrid on there mdx type s
Model Y with Acura curves. people will buy it, but not me
Concept car coverage isn't my favorite, it's much more enjoyable to see testing of cars we can buy. The 10% challenge is the best you do and there are so many more vehicles that need that test, just my opinion and what I'm interested in.
Yap 🙏👍
Concepts that are 99% close to production yes, but something like this where probably 30-50% of it will change is a waste of time. Yeah we might recognize resemblance of this but that's about it
Head of Acura Design would buy a Porsche over his own brand is scary. Acura is in trouble. @18:28
Interesting ... but it's a concept !
Looks like Tesla can simply wrap the cybertruck to look like that. It's already available.
Forgot about the Honda E
Make a real 2 door Integra!!!!
We all saw the ZDX prototype and it looked nothing like it looks now basically. So I'm taking this design with a large amount of salt
Get those dudes some sunscreen STAT.
Another episode sans hoodie, Kyle?
Why would agencies like FMVSS piss him off? These agencies give designers and engineers a reason for their existence. Are these agencies sometimes slow to react? Sure. But I'm not surprised to hear stupid questions like this from a guy who would tell his elderly father to push a 6,000-pound EV truck up a hill when the battery runs out
Zdx rebirth.
Once it's cool and u can give us some info on it u can do more videos like this, if not no.
The Prolog Type R?
Ironically, this very closely resembles the original ZDX.
I liked the design of the original ZDX. Would prefer gas/diesel?/ethanol?/hydrogen? powered batteries so no range anxiety.
@@LLal-kq2cqEVs are perfectly capable of long range. The Lucid Air gets 520 miles of range for example.
Most new EVs have 300+ miles. I’d imagine this new Acura platform will be 300-400 range vehicles which is plenty especially if they have good charging specs.
@@jayem8981Thanks for suggestion. Have cooler temperatures during fall and winter so valid concern about battery longevity. I always preferred used cars so concerns about battery longevity. Would also appreciate if thrre was a way to check battery health remaining as on cellphone.
This is a middle finger to everyone that just bought a zdx (which isn't saying much)😅
Designer just did a worse impression of the Lotus Eletre, which is already a heinous looking vehicle
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Concept cars themselves are meh. But it’s always fun to talk to crazy design people!
nepotism is not a great look kyle, lets wait for the actual products, yea? yea!
It's lotus emeya?
Acura Cross tour😂
I thought you covered Cybertruck announcement, wasn't that a concept at that time?
Not really interested in concept cars ... get 'em on the road is my mantra. There's too much sales-speak with this kind of car and, as mentioned before, not interested in sales speak, give me a 1 hour driving review.
Don't cover as much unless you feel strongly compelled to do so. This seems to be more than a "pie in the sky" prototype.
This kind of content is fine occasionally I suppose, particularly when you have the designer in tow. But in general, I find concept car content in the same league as "battery breakthrough" videos - all of which are tedious to watch.
Kyle doing videos on concept cars??? what is the world coming too....
Production will never look this good, which is always shame