Carl and Mike: The other Beach Boys

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    Carl and Mike :The other Beach Boys Documentary
    All the information in this documentary is sourced from biographies on the Beach boys
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  • @MrBrutal33
    @MrBrutal33 Год назад +53

    Mike Love is the Beach Boys version of an embarrassing old uncle

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад +3

      Thanks for watching

    • @randalclarke5487
      @randalclarke5487 10 месяцев назад +2

      You're wrong- that's too easy...
      He was an essential part of their sound, just as important as Wilson on a lyric level. Love-bashing is passe', move forward amicably

    • @christopher9152
      @christopher9152 10 месяцев назад

      @@randalclarke5487 He was essential, but he was often an insufferable, arrogant douche. And he was not the genius that Brian Wilson was, something he seemed to never realize or accept.

    • @kenrenee15
      @kenrenee15 2 месяца назад +3

      Yes, the drunk, arrogant old uncle everyone hates to see coming.

    • @cameronmac8928
      @cameronmac8928 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@randalclarke5487it's just a damn shame he couldn't sit and think for a moment, contemplate during his 'mediation' that he WAS and IS essential, and understand that is enough. He contributed lyrics, brilliant lead vocals in the early surf songs, and was absolutely essential to the harmonic structure with his incredible bass parts... Why couldn't that just be enough. If he'd just shut the fuck up he would be universally loved. Jealousy and money grubbing was his downfall, no doubt in my mind

  • @iamcasihart
    @iamcasihart 10 месяцев назад +22

    I love Carl as much as I love Denny and Brian. He had a quiet, grounded, beautiful warmth, charisma, and aura. That voice was so perfect! Carl is the ONLY reason Kokomo is even listenable. His vocals are so pretty and smooth!
    ♥️

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 Месяц назад

      No one on Earth, ever, has loved and admired CARL DEAN WILSON,more than I. RIP, rock and roll angel.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @telophasemusic
    @telophasemusic 11 месяцев назад +33

    That HOF speech is such a drag. Mike just trashing all those other artists sucks man.
    That, and him swiping the microphone from Brian during his speech. What a jerk.
    Also rip Carl. Man had a voice of an angel

  • @bobbibaker4685
    @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +17

    When the late great David Crosby had a Twitter account, I asked him what he thought of Brian. "Wonderful musician and person."

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 Месяц назад +1

      That’s so very nice to hear.❤❤❤❤❤

  • @fshoaps
    @fshoaps Год назад +75

    Carl Wilson is one of the most underrated singers, guitar players, and songwriters in the history of rock and roll.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @bobbibaker4685
      @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +5

      He certainly was. A kind, gentle person as well.

    • @petestaint8312
      @petestaint8312 11 месяцев назад +2

      Carl Wilson inspired me to take up the guitar. 😎

    • @Mandrake591
      @Mandrake591 11 месяцев назад +1

      People love saying that. How can that be? Worldwide hits, floods of cash, and plenty of praise. What more could a musician ask for?

    • @jokkergar
      @jokkergar 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Mandrake591 i think the word underrated is really accurated, i mean have you seen Carl ever being mentioned among the greatest singers, by bbs fans for sure but by the general audience i haven't.

  • @mrsmacca126
    @mrsmacca126 Месяц назад +5

    No Wilson Brothers = NO BEACH BOYS.

  • @bobbibaker4685
    @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +12

    Carl was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War.

  • @radiomindchatter7994
    @radiomindchatter7994 Год назад +21

    The brothers kept Mike around ...that was their mistake.

  • @ClandestineRecords
    @ClandestineRecords Год назад +35

    I love Beach Boys gossip

    • @paulamiles9559
      @paulamiles9559 Год назад +2

      Me too. I am sooo.glad me and my cousins and sibs aren't under such scrutiny. Everyone makes a fool.out of himself at one point but Mikey did it on camera so we can make fun of it at any time.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад

      Thanks for watching

    • @rejectionisprotection4448
      @rejectionisprotection4448 8 месяцев назад

      Well there's plenty of it to be had.

  • @bobbibaker4685
    @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +17

    Shout out to Blondie Chaplin! He's still rocking out! And so is Al Jardine! ❤❤

  • @impalaman9707
    @impalaman9707 11 месяцев назад +42

    Carl was the voice of reason and sanity in an otherwise erratic and egocentric band

    • @randalclarke5487
      @randalclarke5487 10 месяцев назад +2

      Not always... do some research, he wasn't always top notch, just saying there's a certain mythos surrounding Boys

    • @1401minstrel
      @1401minstrel 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@randalclarke5487 Out of a 36 year career, Carl had just two years (1977 and 1978) where his performances ran from okay to iffy to a couple that were completely off the rails, due to personal and band problems, alcohol and drugs. In the other 34 years, his performances were top notch. Despite that, I believe @impalaman9707's statement is true. And I also believe he or she has done the research.

    • @impalaman9707
      @impalaman9707 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@1401minstrel Thank you. Carl's humility, maturity, and work ethic were consistent for most of his years. He picked up the slack when others wouldn't. And Brian also said Carl had the best ear for music besides his own, and trusted his opinions completely

  • @michaellazzeri2069
    @michaellazzeri2069 11 месяцев назад +6

    From the very 1st time I saw them, 8/64 in Denver at the old Downtown Auditorium Arena, Carl became my very favorite member of the group. From then, to 11/97, I saw The Beach Boys 25 times. And, in those times, it was Carl who I really came to see. Sadly, I missed his him during his solo years of late '80, to early '82. I really wish I had seen him when he was " solo" . In the summer of '76, when they came to Denver & the old Mile-High Stadium, I was lucky enough to get backstage for a few minutes, & meet Carl . He was incredibly gracious, we shook hands, & he asked me my favorite BB's song -------" DWB " -------& then he had to move on. it was less then 5 minutes, & unfortunately I forgot my camera, but it was a moment I'll never forget. ----------PS : i also saw DW with Karen Lamm----Wilson. She was a blonde babe, & every guy was staring at her. I could tell, DW loved the attention the 2 of them received. ------------------MJL< 76 y/o

  • @boycompass7769
    @boycompass7769 11 месяцев назад +14

    Mike Love has always been the most unmitigated douche in all of modern music. I grew up with the Beach Boys and have always thought that of him.

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 Месяц назад +1

      I don’t even dislike him, anymore. I just feel embarrassed and sorry for him. It must be agony to look back at his behavior at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony.

  • @joshsinclair1796
    @joshsinclair1796 10 месяцев назад +7

    This channel is exactly what I need right now! If you made a video on Al Jardine I could die the next day happily 😂

  • @cannyvalley
    @cannyvalley 11 месяцев назад +17

    My love for Brian and distaste for Mike doesn’t prevent me from acknowledging Love’s contributions vocally and on occasion lyrically as well.
    PS: Side notes😂

  • @user-lj2my3vb3u
    @user-lj2my3vb3u 11 месяцев назад +16

    I love how you slipped in all the jabs at mike, he really is a piece of work.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  11 месяцев назад +1

      Its all in jest. I have nothing ole mike

    • @user-lj2my3vb3u
      @user-lj2my3vb3u 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@filmretrospective5334 that’s fair but the ways he has continually attacked Brian who with out a doubt has mental issues is really disappointing disgusting (not cursing would have used different words if not for abiding by the language mandate which is reasonable). Adding a sentence to a finished song from Brian should not give you 50% of the royalties. That’s why I think Mike is an awful person.

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 Месяц назад

      @@user-lj2my3vb3unot to mention all 1,000 marriages. Yep- a real religious zealot.🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

  • @BA-vv4jy
    @BA-vv4jy 11 месяцев назад +14

    Mike Love will never have my sympathy. The dude's an egomaniac. And it's probably a front due to the fact that he wasn't as talented as his cousins.

  • @MichaeldeFilippi
    @MichaeldeFilippi Год назад +16

    Mike and Carl were awesome. They got along very well.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад

      Love them

    • @Mncrr
      @Mncrr 11 месяцев назад +7

      Well Carl was. Not a fan of Mike love

    • @johnmc3862
      @johnmc3862 11 месяцев назад +4

      Love was a complete Buffoon and still is!

    • @1401minstrel
      @1401minstrel 10 месяцев назад +3

      Carl and Mike had rocky periods in their relationship, particularly in the 1970s.

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 Месяц назад +2

      @@1401minstrelLive from Knebworth - case in point.

  • @bobbibaker4685
    @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +19

    Van Dyke Parks was homeless when he met Brian. Brian immediately got on the phone to Murry: "He's going to need a fully furnished apartment. And you need to put him on the payroll as of today, for $500 a week--" Then he looked at Van Dyke and asked, "Would that be enough?" ❤

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  11 месяцев назад +3

      Always good to hear your input bobbibaker

    • @bobbibaker4685
      @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +4

      Brian also told Murry Van Dyke would need a car. What a guy!

    • @jamieflowers1493
      @jamieflowers1493 11 месяцев назад +5

      Van Dyke said all he asked for was a new Volvo

  • @lizcarlstrom7818
    @lizcarlstrom7818 Год назад +33

    Been a BB fan since 64. Didn't care for Mike then and still don't. It was all about the Wilsons and still is.

  • @oldermusiclover
    @oldermusiclover 10 месяцев назад +6

    Mike is a good song writer and singer but is a pain in the neck now

  • @glennwlove
    @glennwlove Год назад +11

    Ricky and Blondie were from South Africa.

  • @jackthebassman1
    @jackthebassman1 Год назад +15

    Carl had a voice from the gods (and I’m atheist)!

  • @Jamescorrigan1
    @Jamescorrigan1 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've seen a number of your videos and your work is so interesting 🤔. Thanks for all the effort you have put into these fantastic stores.

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif 11 месяцев назад +2

    mike love and carl wilson legendary.

  • @figmo397
    @figmo397 7 месяцев назад +4

    I love the sidenotes about Mike Love's five marriages. LOL!
    Carl Wilson grew up from being a pudgy kid to a major musician and consummate professional. It's so sad that lung cancer got him so young.

  • @grassrootsorphanage
    @grassrootsorphanage 11 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant!!

  • @bwithrow011
    @bwithrow011 10 месяцев назад +7

    Mike Loves numerous marriages speaks volumes about the type of person he is behind closed doors, quite different from on stage

  • @rejectionisprotection4448
    @rejectionisprotection4448 8 месяцев назад +1

    Love the side notes: damning with (not so) faint shade😅😅😅😅😅

  • @ght_1
    @ght_1 Год назад +5

    You forgot about Thump Wilson

  • @bobbibaker4685
    @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fun fact: Mike Love's nephew is NBA star Kevin Love.

  • @davidaston5773
    @davidaston5773 11 месяцев назад +3

    @Film Retrospective Fantastic video. I love how you deliver and explore the focus of your videos.
    As a life long Beach Boy fan, the behind the scenes are sad to hear. I think anyone can understand the how and whys of the Wilson brothers and Mike Love's relationships.
    But, the clear jealously of Mike Love towards Brian is embarrassing. Yes, Mike has a point when it comes to wanting more credit for the writing of the many legendary songs. What I and so many dislike, IS HOW, he's gone about it.
    Mike Love is supposed to be into peace and harmony. Yet, his actions have prove otherwise.
    Carl Wilson deserved so much better from both the Beach Boys and the music industry. As with Dennis, he could've and SHOULD'VE become big in his own right. But, OF COURSE, if that happened Mike Love would've found more reasons to be bitter.
    David

  • @Chicago_Podcast_Authority
    @Chicago_Podcast_Authority 11 месяцев назад +1

    “Side note” 😂

  • @glennwlove
    @glennwlove Год назад +21

    Mike is an embarrassment

  • @michaelwandell2533
    @michaelwandell2533 Год назад +5

    Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Stop! Is that a cigarette the all-perfect mike love is smoking at 8:37??

  • @NOWtheband
    @NOWtheband 11 месяцев назад

    Both good lads - Two of the nine heroes!
    🙂

  • @qasanoba
    @qasanoba Год назад

    like because of Mike's rant
    guy's crazy

  • @drummer083
    @drummer083 10 месяцев назад +5

    As great as Brian Wilson is, without Mike's lyrics, those songs would never be as revered as they are today.

  • @jeffdosch5738
    @jeffdosch5738 2 месяца назад +1

    Side note: Good stuff. Crazy how disfunctional this band was

  • @Chicago_Podcast_Authority
    @Chicago_Podcast_Authority 11 месяцев назад +2

    You’re doing the dark lord’s work ❤

  • @davidrice3337
    @davidrice3337 11 месяцев назад +1

    Greatest HOF speach ever -
    Jimi was spot on -

  • @oldermusiclover
    @oldermusiclover 10 месяцев назад +3

    Carl had such a wonderful voice. too bad he was a smoker, lost an older brother because of the same reason

    • @figmo397
      @figmo397 7 месяцев назад +1

      Lost my paternal grandmother the same way. What they don't mention is how PAINFUL lung cancer is! Knowing that Carl toured while dealing with lung cancer and chemo makes me respect him as a consummate professional even more than I already did. I was lucky to get to see The Beach Boys in 1995, and they still sounded great.

  • @truthtransistorradio6716
    @truthtransistorradio6716 2 месяца назад

    Mike Love's acceptance speech would have made him a good wrestling heel!

  • @andrewashdown3541
    @andrewashdown3541 11 месяцев назад +1

    Mike Love - what can one say ?

  • @profanius66
    @profanius66 Год назад +1

    Maybe you mean John Phillips

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад

      Yeah i realised that when i watched it back. Don't know why i said john Williams.

  • @hobartw9770
    @hobartw9770 2 месяца назад

    Who?

  • @bobbibaker4685
    @bobbibaker4685 11 месяцев назад +3

    I can't dislike Mike. In his way he has as many issues as Brian.

  • @GuyFromWashingtonDC
    @GuyFromWashingtonDC 11 месяцев назад +1

    Lol mike is a funny dude

  • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
    @JoeBlow-fp5ng 11 месяцев назад

    What fame and money can do to people.

  • @barrycuda3769
    @barrycuda3769 Год назад +1

    How did the rest of the band avoid Vietnam?

    • @daniel.holbrook
      @daniel.holbrook Год назад +9

      Bruce allegedly got out by putting on skinny jeans, makeup and pretending to be gay

    • @barrycuda3769
      @barrycuda3769 Год назад +2

      @@daniel.holbrook That's dedication 'I'm not sure I could go that far.

    • @nikokaapa
      @nikokaapa Год назад +9

      @@barrycuda3769 Hmm, dressing in drag for half a day or potentially dying or at least life-long trauma. That sure is a tough pick…

    • @barrycuda3769
      @barrycuda3769 Год назад +1

      @@nikokaapa I think I'd have a go at being totally blind 'with a white cane and dark glasses.

    • @nikokaapa
      @nikokaapa Год назад +1

      @@barrycuda3769 That takes some acting skills I think :D

  • @qasanoba
    @qasanoba Год назад +1

    Mike's perfect pitch and Carl producing for Ricky Martin ROFLMAO ok my dude we got something here lol

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching

    • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
      @JoeBlow-fp5ng 11 месяцев назад +2

      Mike had perfect pitch? I'd call it monotone. It worked when it worked within Brian Wilson's superb melodies but Mike's voice gets annoying quickly.

    • @jamieflowers1493
      @jamieflowers1493 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm guessing it's not the Ricky Martin you're thinking of. It was the son of Dean Martin.

    • @drummer083
      @drummer083 10 месяцев назад

      Carl produced Ricci (pronounced Ritchie) Martin, son of Dean and brother of his future wife, Gina.

  • @Floodland-bn3ol
    @Floodland-bn3ol Год назад +3

    One of the greatest moments in rock was Mike Love flexing on and challenging all the "mop tops" during his HOF speech.

    • @Monkforilla
      @Monkforilla Год назад +12

      Such a beligerant and unprecedented terrible take from the king of terrible takes , Micheal Edward
      There’s a reason he’s hated

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @AprilShowers1955
    @AprilShowers1955 9 месяцев назад

    Don’t care for their involvement with the Maharishi at all. The Beatles had a negative influence on The Beach Boys by pulling them into meditations. This ruined both groups. When the Beatles left, The Beach Boys should have also. Mike has been married five times and the Maharishi years must have destroyed his marriages. Do not like that Mike tried to sue his cousin, Brian. Family should have been able to settle matters together out of court. The lives The Beach Boys were living certainly took a major toll on the music they could have written and produced. If they had continued living regular lives, there is no telling where their genius and creativity would have taken them. Just wish things had turned out differently.

  • @brunningwolf
    @brunningwolf 19 дней назад

    Big mouth love zero

  • @beandipcartography
    @beandipcartography 11 месяцев назад

    Leroy is still my favorite.

  • @michaelclark4043
    @michaelclark4043 2 месяца назад

    Compared to the other hand members who had thick healthy growths of hair, Mike looked like a bald headed buzzard. 😢😮

  • @h.markhorton8188
    @h.markhorton8188 Год назад +5

    Mike is both overrated ( in his mind) and underrated ( to the general public.)

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  Год назад

      Love mike

    • @cannyvalley
      @cannyvalley 11 месяцев назад +2

      This is the correct answer. He is an absolute cad, but unfortunately that overshadows his legitimate contributions, vocally and even lyrically on occasion (his rewrite of Good Vibrations for example).
      I’m Team Brian all the way, but some credit is due to that idiot Mike.

  • @johnmc3862
    @johnmc3862 11 месяцев назад +6

    Mike Love, the Donald Trump of front men.

  • @michaelclark4043
    @michaelclark4043 2 месяца назад

    Baldness must run in Mike's family,most likely hìs father's side. 😢😮

  • @stevenhollingsworth733
    @stevenhollingsworth733 Год назад +9

    Even as a kid I never liked Mike love.

  • @alanb287
    @alanb287 5 месяцев назад +1

    I hope people who have bought Beach Boys concert tickets since the end of the 50 year reunion tour knew it wasn't really the Beach Boys from that point forward. Or maybe better said, if they didn't know, they weren't true Beach Boys fans to begin with. To me the Beach Boys ended with Carl's death. On the other hand, Brian Wilson and his great band, and with Alan Jardine and Blondie Chaplin, exemplify the glory of The Beach Boys.

    • @ronfowlermusic
      @ronfowlermusic 29 дней назад

      Brian is retired now.

    • @mrsmacca126
      @mrsmacca126 19 дней назад

      @@ronfowlermusicYes. His wife is recently deceased. 🙏 LOVE and MERCY.❤

  • @KittyPurrfect100
    @KittyPurrfect100 3 месяца назад

    Mike Love is a good frontman. He is the only in the group who can do that. Opinions don’t matter.

  • @Noah1997callahan
    @Noah1997callahan Год назад +2

    Carl “frowed” up from too many milkshakes

  • @michaelclark4043
    @michaelclark4043 3 месяца назад

    Eugene Landy was a real FROOT LOOP as far as I'm concerned. 😢 😮

  • @bryanbrian1234
    @bryanbrian1234 8 месяцев назад +2

    Mike Love should have punched Elton John in the face.

  • @LarryJung-ng5yj
    @LarryJung-ng5yj 11 месяцев назад +2

    Jesus Christ is real love,goodness,hope and the universal king !!. And yes the Biblical Jesus Christ is very much real.

    • @filmretrospective5334
      @filmretrospective5334  11 месяцев назад

      this video probly explains what you mean
      ruclips.net/video/tlFuyHQzZIc/видео.html