FleSh Arox because the makers of the game wanted it that way. You can't put a gun in the game that holds 2 shots and requires BOTH shots to get a SINGLE kill. And those shots have to be within 3 feet of the enemy. WTF!!?
to be fair, he does say the SVT is usable without the attachment. the attachment portion is to give people a reason to pick the gun over the M1. different contexts. still kinda funny tho.
You probably don't use them right. M1A1 is meant to excel at a distance, M1 Garand can be treated similarly to a semi auto shotty up close, SVT-40 you have to play it a little more defensively than the Garand, regardless of it also being a two shot kill.
My favourite weapon! Great for taking out snipers or locking down a lane! Extended mags and red dot or 4x optics are a must for this weapon tho! Quickdraw too for any lmg
I've been using the Bren as my main gun since the game came out, and I like how the 30 bullets is historically accurate. Instead of changing the mag size, It would be better if they made the reload time a little faster or made the ADS time slightly better.
I find the Luffwaffe drilling extremely good when i was going for diamond shotguns, especially with the rifle bullet, advanced rifling and a reflex sight, and quickdraw with infantry. This gun is really good if you ads, it has insane range
Shotguns. Shotguns badly need a slight buff. Especially the m30 and sawed-off. Oh, man, hitmarker central. Edit: Yes, Ace, did talk about this. I'm trying to get diamond shotguns. You know it's bad when a sniper is better at close range than a shotgun.
My favorite gun is the Bren, but I totally agree that it need a lot of buffs. Using attachments makes the gun a lot better and once you have the 2 or 3 attachments it is absolute beast.
as a sniper, the lee enfield is very underpowered, sure it has aim assist but a little damage buff would be good, leave the slow scope and the slow aim in speed just a little less hit markers
Considering that the Springfield and Kar98k are overpowered as fuck, I think they should leave it alone (I have diamond snipers so yes I’ve used these things)
I honestly could not have ranked and explained this video better than you did! The way you explained the shotguns and even the gameplay with the m30 perfectly explains my frustrations over the last month and a half.
For the Bren, it's simple. Make the reload time as fast as it was back in CoD1 and CoD2. In those games, the Bren was the fastest reloading LMG in the game.
Dillon C I don’t see why it has such a long reload you literally have to change the magazine. There’s no belt of ammo to switch, it’s essentially reloading a heavy rifle.
The Luftwaffe drilling is good with the incendiary shells, it increases its OHK potential hugely. Once you run out of incendiary shells it sucks, unless you ads.
Yeh, combat's the best, but the toggle action isn't too bad either if you use steady aim and rapid fire; this thing fires six shells off in a flash, even faster than the M1216 from BO2. The long barrel puts me off, but once you get a variant it's all good. I'd say it's slighlty better at distance than the combat but up close you will get outgunned by a combat user. Against most other weapons, all smgs included, you can get the two rounds needed for a kill off before you're smoked.
I find that the drilling has a stupidly weird pellet spread that severely punishes hip fire, but it does really well when aimed down sights. Maybe adding a speed-loader attachment to both of the double barrels, or just make a reload with both shells inserted simultaneously the standard reload
I think they need to redo the damage system for the shotguns like, say, mw2 did. Every cod that passes by makes shotguns worse and worse so now we can't even guarantee a kill with two hits on a double barrel. That's just ridiculous.
Smashkey MW2 had the best gun balancing of all Call Of Duty games in history. All of them should strive to be that balanced. But no let's put in a shotgun with 2 shots and 4ft range. Oh did I mention you need to hit both shots just to get a single kill? Enjoy!
avin r mw2 had awful balance, shotguns were op as shit, noobtubes, quickscoping, acr laser gun and you had to have stopping power and scavenger, so you could chose between steady aim, commando or dead silence.
avin r that's not really called balance. Any good player can dominate with a gun, even if it's bad, but just because people could be good with any gun doesnt mean its balancing is great that just means all guns were either overpowered or the person was just really good to dominate with a garbage gun
ProducerLu The Bren ADS is slower than all LMGs even with quickdraw, its basically what makes the gun garbo You dont need ext mags with that gun since the Fire rate is so slow I have Gold on it and it was a royal pain in the ass. Decrease the Ads time on it and its actually usable.
I think there might be a common misconception that many guys here may be facing with LMGs. They're fucking LMGs. Also, the ADS time is slower on the Bren for a reason. It has more lethality than any other weapon in the game. With the 4x attachment, you already have a 30-round Karabin that can be mounted for even better accuracy and faster reloading. Extended mags is also very good for those who actually want to rush, as you won't be caught reloading as often, and the mag no longer takes up the entire right side of the screen.
Agree with your picks but surprised at the suggestion for the Bren, the RoF is so slow that the 30 round mag isn't even a problem, and that's where the main problem is with the Bren, it's overall slowness. Despite the 2 shot kill it's TTK is considerably slower than the other 3 LMGs and the TTK isn't competitive even at medium range with the better assault rifles either. It's generally very hard to use because it takes almost TWICE the time to ADS than every other gun in the game and the vertical magazine is very obstructive too. The only redeeming factor is the low recoil but the other LMGs don't have a whole lot themselves. Maybe a one hit headshot like was suggested with the SVT would be good
Zachary Michael It's great in Hardcore, but elsewhere, it is pretty mediocre. Still, I like giving myself a challenge every once in a while by using it in a Core playlist.
The Olympia from BO1 should be how those two perform. I suggest having the luftwaffe have longer range with a one shot kill potential while the sawed off has better one shot kill potential up close and both should be able to reload much faster than they already do. Plus to make them slightly different. The sawed off should be better at hip firing while the luftwaffe is better at ads. Even though it doesn’t make much sense to ads a shotgun I feel like it would give them a different dynamic since they’re so similar already.
Drew Berry yeah, the pump shottys ok but still needs a bit of a buff to the range. The other three (especially the double barreled shottys) need a HUGE buff.
Hey man, love your videos. I was super surprised at the Svt-40 and bren being on the list! The Svt-40 is when the game really started going right for me. I've seen videos advising hanging back or going for range shots and taking your time over a 2 shot kill, but I've found it so successful at slightly closer ranges, aiming low so that the recoil still takes to chest with rapid follow up shots (headshots being pretty useless). The massive drawback on it is lack of penetration through cover. I find the garand unusable compared to this, because of the recoil. The bren, well you obviously can't move around with it well and you have to have extended mags. Maybe try it with a x4 scope on gustavs cannon as a substitute for a sniper. I often don't need to reload before dying. Chill out on the cannon and rain down on people. Good for people who don't like sniping or are inconsistent. Had a lot of fun with it on that map, although I prefer snipers. I'm no pro and things be different after the patches since this video. As I say, love your videos!
How is the m1a1 carbine not on this list? It doesn’t do anything better than anything - it loses to every other rifle and can’t beat anything up close. Furthermore, you suggested that the svt get the 1.8x with high caliber then proceed to say that the Bren shouldn’t only be good if you use an attachment. Contradictory.
I actually think the M1A1 is better than the Garand. The lower recoil is great for harassing distant enemies with repeated shots, and I've even won some close range battles through volume of fire. You can't do that on the Garand thanks to all that kick and the smaller mag.
I agree chris. That gun is worthless I've tried to give it a chance and get used to it but for me "I" am hopeless with it. I should note that I haven't used it in any hardcore matches though...anybody else use it in hardcore and how does it do?
SGT5105RIP m1a1 carbine is definitely the semi auto gun of choice in hardcore. It’s a one shot kill anywhere but the legs and it has a 15 bullet clip and basically no recoil ESPECIALLY with grip. The sight is also stellar for long range engagements. All around better than both other semi autos until you get to surface penetration kills.
I think they need to decrease the reload times on all lmgs - decrease reload times on the bren/gpmg, to be best in class. -increase fire rate on the bren slightly, -increase svt center speed -Increase the ads times on the Bar, fg42, stg44, and M1941 -decrease the ads times to be around the new auto rifles on all LMGs -Slight decrease to movement speeds with bar, fg42, stg,44, m1941 -buff all shotgun damage (not including incediary bullets) -decrease hipfire spread on the m1g,m1a1, svt, and gewehr. To be more accurate up close. - nerf auto rifles extended mags to 25 bullets for bar/fg42. 30 for m1941, and 40 for stg. -decrease accuracy of auto rifles, add recoil to stg44 at long range - karabin should 1 shot in chest/head -make m30 best at long range shotty, pump all rounder, sawed off best at close, at leave toggle alone. -make grip more effective, slight decrease to accuracy spread for auto guns. -nerf the ads time with the reflex sight on -akimbo sawed off -add a revolver for free -add single shots like the mosin nagat ( WaW style) -change sprint out times
B-ALB Nathan it makes sense to slow down the auto rifles ads time and movement to be More line with mg. As the single shot rifles are lighter. As well as decrease the accuracy, because it's the same as the single shot. Also hip firing the single shot rifles are easier due to the shape of the stock and the slower rpm.
I agree 100% with this list, although i feel like the Toggle Action should get a small decrease in range because the damage and 4 bullets in the magazine sure do fuck you up in half-medium range
Idk if you tested this but i noticed much tighter shot spreads with the shotgun when I ads, so would those hit markers be kills if you where aiming instead of hip firing? Idk just a thought. I still think shotguns should 1 shot at those extreme ranges ads or not.
It's odd, shotguns used to require people to aim down sight in the older CODs, because without it you have shit accuracy. I'm not sure when they changed it so you don't need to ADS to get kills even at range. Stupid. ADS should improve both accuracy and kill range.
I use shotguns a lot in WW2 and got them diamond. aiming down sights helps a lot but not enough and when your running around with a shotgun a lot of the time you need to get that first shot off immediately or you die. so basically even tho aiming down sights improves your chances its not enough of an improvement to risk giving them extra time to shoot you most of the time
I ADS pretty much 100% and can confirm this does shit-all for the Luftwaffe. I can't tell you how pissed off this gun makes me. Double Barrel should have the BEST range in class due to it's long barrel and extremely small clip size, but it just doesn't happen.
Getting those 2 shotguns gold was possibly the hardest 2 guns I've completed in my 10 years of playing cod. Even a lot of hitmarkers on hard-core. Terrible weapons.
pretty much all of the shotguns need buffs even the combat shotgun needs a buff, a sniper should NOT be able to do a shotguns job better then a shotgun
completely agree with the shotguns, the only way to do the one-shot-medals for those guns atm is to use them in hardcore, which is even more difficult considering everyone else will be using smgs and rifles
I agree mostly except the Bren is still fairly good if you use mountain you can reload it fairly quickly when mounted, I would probably change it for the karabin as haveing to shoot some one twice when sniping is rather difficult
I agree with the shotties on Core (which, yes is where most folks play), but the shotties are One Hit Kill medal-machines in hardcore (you'll still die a lot, but on certain maps you can do pretty well, Point du Hoc, Caretan, USS Texas...)
Shotguns need a buff, semi-auto rifles need a buff, sniper aim down site time as well as aim centering needs a serious nerf...It's better to use a sniper for close range gun fights than any other gun except the combat shotgun, which is absolute BS and completely rage inducing
Jesse Wright theyve nerfed snipers every game except for mw3 starting at bo1. Bo2 nerfed. Aw nerfed. Ghosts nerfed repeatedly. Iw nerfed. Bo3 no aim assist, ww2 no aim assist except enfield which isnt even that good. Oh and ww2 already has no aim assist and has been hit with a nerf.. yet we adapt and continue to play around it. Everyone cries "its so overpowered" really? 2=skill players at mid/short range 1 sniper 1 reggun of your choice same reaction time the regguns gona win most of the time unless shots are missed.
I 100% respect and agree that quick-scoping should always be a thing in COD, but my argument is to make it more skill based in this game rather than something that a new player with 15 minutes under their belt could pick up on immediately. I've been in lobbies where 9/12 people are rocking snipers because it is just that easy in ww2 to get those 1 shot kills. So maybe increase idle sway on snipers or add more error to aim centering in my opinion.
Like for example: I personally believe I suck at sniping. I always have in every prior Cod. Yet I got diamond camo on all my snipers in WW2 within the first 2 months of release...
When you are loving the M30 because you give it a chance to learn the sweet spots on the one hit kills and the only downside is the long ish reload for a weapon with 2 rounds
Gotta say one thing about the drilling... W/incindiary rounds loaded and advanced rifling, you can get one shots at near twice the range of The Winchester Shotgun.
Jimmie Miller I've been saying this to the Reddit parrots for weeks. They see one ace video where he only tests the combat shotgun and they generalize it to every other shotgun. People just want info spoonfed to them without doing any testing themselves
Personally with the bren, I feel the mag is fine, however, if they want to buff it, they could increase the speed at which you aim down the sights, or possibly provide a buff to the reload, or maybe do both and cut a bit of the time off each.
Agree with this list with a few other suggestions of my own. My recommendation for the SVT-40 would be to see the rate of fire increased. It could get a pass on recoil if it shot a little faster, given it does recoil more than the M1 Garand but does more damage. The Bren could serve well in a mid-damage paratrooper role (drop damage to 35 flat, the Mark 1 portrayed in game fired the .303 British, same as the Enfield) with a higher rate of fire and larger magazine. It would then be comparable to the Lewis gun which shared the same caliber round. Double barreled shotguns would benefit from more DPS per pellet. Hit spread seems fine on both of them. And the sawed off should have higher DPS regardless since it's the prestige weapon. I do have a few guns I'd add to the list. Bazooka needs better splash damage for infantry. And probably a better straight line for taking down aircraft. Lag comp in this game makes it nearly impossible to get a kill with it unless the enemy is a deer in the headlights when they see the rocket coming. Or shooting down recon planes. Lag is so bad, it's hard to lead. Grease Gun could use a slight ROF increase. Unless it's placebo it feels weaker than it did in the Beta. Type 100 needs either a damage buff or a rate of fire increase. Period. The 4-shot kill range isn't that much better than the Waffe that it makes it worth using and you can't use it in hipfire at all. It is completely outclassed at close-medium range by the PPSH and the MP40 and it doesn't stand a chance at any weapon in point blank.
Combat shotgun much better now they changed it. this guy has a vid about it uloaded yesterday. I had a challenge for shotgun kils so I used it range is much better check it out sometime.
I am a fan of the rage it induces for some reason some get extremely angry when you kill them with a shotgun. I dropped over 50 kills on Griffin war with it the other day.. you're right now that challenges are done I probably will never use it again.
The m30 needs it’s one shot potential buffed and reload speed or reworked animation cause god it’s real slow and you get hitmarkers in places where it feels right to 1 shot kill since it’s a long double barreled shotgun. The sawed off needs a buff both damage, longer range and reload speed
I would never even try and run the double barrel without hustle. you should be able to run without but it's damn near impossible double barrel was amazing as it could be in world at war.
The double barrel variants ABSOLUTELY need a buff. It is wasteful to have to fire off both shots to kill ONE person most times with the limited ammo capacity. The Bren is secretly awesome though despite being an underdog. I'd love to have less ads time with it, maybe some extra clip size too - but I've had a lot of fun with it in its current state despite the setbacks. It's probably one of the few guns that works well against snipers in sightline battles. (FMJ really shines there, and the Bipod can help win you some fights too if set up first) The ACOG works surprisingly well on it - though FMJ and Extended Mags reign supreme.
Simple, buff the shotguns and nerf the snipers specifically kar98k. The ADS with the kar98k is insane. And yes, for a division prestige weapon the SVT is surprisingly worthless. I’d have never done the infantry prestige knowing that was waiting or me. Great video as always.
m1 bazooka. the explosive radius is so small you have to hit someone directly to consistently do damage. i know its meant to take down streaks but that absolutely should not mean it should be useless if you need to kill someone with it
JKay11235 The Luftwaffe Drilling has 3 barrels and the third one is meant to fire a rifle round - hence the "rifle bullet" attachment in this game, you dummy.
In this gameplay the luftwaffe drilling is being used in hip firing situations. you need to aim down sights almost like quick scoping with a shotgun. Its more accurate and gets a lot of one shot kills from really far range
I know this sounds crazy, but the type 100 is a fucking turd shooter. Everybody melts me with that gun, and when I use it it takes 100 shots to kill. I suppose it’s quite aptly named
Brendan Kwapis it does piss poor damage but has no recoil at all. Try to use it as more of a passive or defensive weapon and hold down short-medium range sightlines.
Yeah. All the smgs suck unless your right on the enemy. Just don't miss a single bullet or your dead. The very first assault rifle is the best smg in the game. Same damage, same fast fire rate, only more range. I'm only using the Combat Shotgun, the Kar98k, the STG44, the PPSH, the Bar, and that first rifle whatever it's called. 6 whole weapons that I can get kills with without hit markers or getting melted. Thanks sledgehammer.
wesmel06 try the LMGs they're all good AF. Just don't waste your time and money on the new one they just released. Total rip off. Oh yeah I play only regular, not hardcore. If you play hardcore idk which gun to use.
The whole game feels inconsistent as hell, even when I'm having a solid session of games nothing feels consistent at any range or weapon class, save maybe the Kar 98K.
What the SVT-40 Needs. -Rate Of Fire -Increased Headshot Strength What the Bren Needs. -Increase Rate Of Fire -ADS Speed What both M30LD and Sawed Off Needs. -Intense Rate Of Fire -Increased Reload Speed -Damage
Yeah I love my Bren class. Infantry division with rapid fire, grip and extended mag. Granted you don't need 600 bullets since you will rarely reload. But I can't find a good balance with 2 attachments.
Preston Melkerson I agree. Bren is op. A 30 round magazine on a gun that renders a consistent 2 shot kill is generous. I finished the camo challenges for it in normal game modes in just a few hours
I carry the M30 as my secondary weapon when using the Rifleman training, because it shoots those two rounds faster than the combat shotgun and it seemingly gets the job done. But that's because I've usually already hit them at least once with a rifle or SMG. That is the only time I use a shotgun.
Couldn’t agree more, just completed all camo challenges for the shotguns and the amount of times I had to put in both shells and the smack people with the double barrels was stupid. You then have to wait a month of Sundays to reload them!!! I’ve started using the kar98k AKA best pump action shotgun in the game - patch this please sledgehammer - listen to the fans.
Ace, love the videos. This one is odd because When I play hardcore, the shotguns are shooting me from across the street, never miss close and the incd.rounds just cook everybody including me. Always somebody with one in close quarters maps just hip fire killing before u get your gun up.
The Bren is one of my top 3 favorite guns in this game, but I will confess the ADS time is ridiculous. Rare to win a head-on fight because that drawback is so inflated.
Pump action shotgun with incendiary rounds is fantastic. Either a one shot kill from the bullet or the guy burns because of the incendiary round. Great gun to have some fun with.
Svt is a god gun, I got 83 kills on one half of war on operation breakout! And yes those shotguns are garbage... even in hardcore where they are a oneshot kill!
Hopefully there are more secondary weapons coming out later down the line because the ones that are currently in game don't feel balanced at all and have no use when you gotta use perks like Prime. I literally shot someone three times with the 1911 at point blank range and he still managed to put me down first.
The Luftwaffe can be good if you ADS. every single shot you took was hip fire, which drastically affects pellet spread. Advanced Rifling + Steady Aim will also help your odds
It's weird because aside from the waffe, when I want to tryhard in things where there are a million snipers.... I always go armored class and luftwaffe drilling and dumpster everyone with the fire or fast doubletaps
I agree with most of these points. Add 1.8 HS multiplier to both the Garand and the SVT-40, and disable reload for the Garand. But bad guns... what about the potato cannon from IW, Howitzer?
When he said "I'd be more consistent with a shovel in my hand" it hit me right there because I love double barreled shotgun, I mean don't get me started on the waw double shotty and the Olympia. But sadly these guns are but shadows in comparison.
I've had matches on Gustav Cannon and US Texas where I just equipped a stealth class, went prone in a corner, and did something else until the match ended because of how bad it got. It's not fun. I hope they do something about it soon.
Being a hardcore player, I can honestly say that the STG44 and the PPSH give me a way harder time than the BAR and FG 42, though I don't deny that the BAR is high tier, I don't think it's overpowered, the STG almost always takes 3 shots to kill and actually has a larger damage fall off range, as well as a much faster fire rate. Though my easiest matches do come from using the BAR, I absolutely refuse to use the STG until it gets nerfed...as that gun tends to be much more overpowered than the BAR imo. Also I noticed you forgot to mention that the BAR's damage fall off ranger got nerfed within the first 2 weeks of the games release...another not is the Luftwaffe Drilling is actually the best shotgun to use with the incendiary shells next to the toggle action. As a regular shotgun the Drilling is absolutely horrible almost always requiring two shots to get a single kill and sometimes not more than that, however the Drilling is the ONLY shotgun with ranged one shot potential when equipped with incendiary shells. Though I do agree that no attachment or division perk should be required for a fun to be viable. I would definitely still agree though that the Sawed Off shotgun is absolutely horrible in this game, along with the M1A1 Carbine and the Lee Enfield.
It's like you read my mind. Especially the shotties. I know I'll get ripped for comparing a video game gun to one in real life but a sawed off shotgun at close range would almost cut someone in half. Here nothing.
But no really, a Shovel is more consistent up close than an actual fucking shotgun. They all need a serious buff
10,000 Subscribers without Videos no one cares about shotguns.
FleSh Arox because the makers of the game wanted it that way.
You can't put a gun in the game that holds 2 shots and requires BOTH shots to get a SINGLE kill. And those shots have to be within 3 feet of the enemy. WTF!!?
avin r I agree lol. When I was going for diamond shotguns it took me three shots with the luftwaffe
All these noobs started on bo3 so everyone wants rapid fire shotguns and distance. Smh.
FleSh Arox preach
Fans:"shotguns need a buff"
Sledgehammer: *it's Nerf or nothing*
The kid you carry in the campaign is better than the sawed off shotgun
that's her name, couldn't remember it
That level was impossible I’m still not done with it
Yeah she once got a double v2 60 gunstreak diamond dark matter 2k xp per kill gameplay with that teddy bear (facts)
Pizza Eater bro that level was so easy. Tank part getting you? Just run away if the tanks look at you then flank them.
Probably better range with the teddy bear
2:00 Make the SVT viable with an attachment.
3:53 You shouldn't have to put an attachment on a gun to make it viable.
Alejandro Meran haha i noticed that too 👍
I dont think he said the SVT was unviable just completely outclassed by the m1 garand in every way, but yeah did contradict himself a teeny bit
to be fair, he does say the SVT is usable without the attachment. the attachment portion is to give people a reason to pick the gun over the M1. different contexts. still kinda funny tho.
Alejandro Meran that’s exactly what I’m saying this vid was dumb
James Ryan he’s saying for the STV40 to compete with the M1Garand it needs a better high caliber
The semi auto rifles SUCK in this game. And this is a WWII game, where semi auto rifles were more common than full autos. They need a buff.
The Garand is dominant tho, it’s an amazing gun when you get the setup you need to be accurate.
M1A1 Is fun and has a fast time to kill with rapid fire.
GunnerRule S. You can do good with the Garand yes, but its not «dominant» not even close
You probably don't use them right. M1A1 is meant to excel at a distance, M1 Garand can be treated similarly to a semi auto shotty up close, SVT-40 you have to play it a little more defensively than the Garand, regardless of it also being a two shot kill.
Wtf you on about mate, I’m a god damned monster with the m1 Garand
Such a good RUclipsr! Gives us gameplay with the guns he's showcasing even if it hurts his stats or whatever!
My friend told me the BAR was balanced
NEXT day he got hit by a car
and I lost my license
Thomas Beekwilder had to read it twice to find the joke
Pain boi
Masked Kyrie Where's LeBron?!?!?
Why did you lose ur lisence to kill?
Thomas Beekwilder I’m so stupid and don’t get it
Ah the Bren. Total garbage at level 1. Great gun with extended mags and 4X. Use it like a sniper.
My favourite weapon! Great for taking out snipers or locking down a lane! Extended mags and red dot or 4x optics are a must for this weapon tho! Quickdraw too for any lmg
I agree totally
i use it with a 4 times scope and it shoots so fast when mounted
I put rapid fire, full metal jacket, high caliber, and I think grip, and shibam!
The bren is like a barett .50 cal
The kar98 is the best shotgun in this game
It’s not a shotgun
DeMarcus Williams but it’s better Than any of the double barrels in close range
DeMarcus Williams NO SHIT
Nah man that would be the Lee Enfield
DeMarcus Williams that's the joke dumbass
I've been using the Bren as my main gun since the game came out, and I like how the 30 bullets is historically accurate. Instead of changing the mag size, It would be better if they made the reload time a little faster or made the ADS time slightly better.
instead of buffing the sawed off shotgun they should add a dual wield attachment
oio oio why not both
Jas San because then we would have mw2 rangers all over again
oio oio that would be cool
Absolutely
oio oio the rangers sucked tho in mw2. Maybe you're thinking of the pre-patch models
I find the Luffwaffe drilling extremely good when i was going for diamond shotguns, especially with the rifle bullet, advanced rifling and a reflex sight, and quickdraw with infantry. This gun is really good if you ads, it has insane range
Shotguns. Shotguns badly need a slight buff. Especially the m30 and sawed-off. Oh, man, hitmarker central.
Edit: Yes, Ace, did talk about this. I'm trying to get diamond shotguns. You know it's bad when a sniper is better at close range than a shotgun.
Black Omega X Every shotgun except toggle, you can’t even keep an even K/D over many games using them
Josh K With the combat shotgun and the toggle action, I say it's possible. But for the m30 and sawed-off, I agree with you.
go play hardcore for these two shitty guns to get them gold...its the only way right now
R2TheEaLiTyyyyyy you beat me to this comment lol, I’ve got gold for every shotgun except the sawed off, working in hc to get that diamond
jeah i only need 2 pistols and the lauchers then i got chrome finally
My favorite gun is the Bren, but I totally agree that it need a lot of buffs. Using attachments makes the gun a lot better and once you have the 2 or 3 attachments it is absolute beast.
Watching your shotgun clips, I'm surprised these haven't been buffed already
Daniel Avello I can admit that the sawed off shotgun sucks horribly but the lunderwaft is good if you have incinary shells
Mark Harbour it shouldn’t require those to be good though, it should be viable by itself
I went 20 and 5 with the m30 lutwaffe and it's good
as a sniper, the lee enfield is very underpowered, sure it has aim assist but a little damage buff would be good, leave the slow scope and the slow aim in speed just a little less hit markers
Considering that the Springfield and Kar98k are overpowered as fuck, I think they should leave it alone (I have diamond snipers so yes I’ve used these things)
hotlinexorms agree 100%. It’s a guaranteed one shot kill above waist and I get hit markers all day shoulders and above.
The Lee Enfield is okay but the karabin sucks with rapid fire manditory
Give us akimbo sawed-off lol
Laurence Hill it was op in mw but it would that trash ass gun justice in this games
Rangers
It would still be shit.
How the fuck is someone gonna reload that
Eli Allen lol they twirl them around and magically reload them
Bren: ext mag, 4x scope, quick draw
My best gun almost 2k kills
Great for counter sniping if you use bursts
yes I agree with this list especially the shot guns idk what kind of weed they smoking when they made those pieces of absolute garbage
Jacob 97 must have been some bad bad baad weed
Jacob 97 shotguns have pretty much ass in ALMOST every call of duty
Jacob 97 ikr
I honestly could not have ranked and explained this video better than you did! The way you explained the shotguns and even the gameplay with the m30 perfectly explains my frustrations over the last month and a half.
For the Bren, it's simple. Make the reload time as fast as it was back in CoD1 and CoD2. In those games, the Bren was the fastest reloading LMG in the game.
Dillon C I don’t see why it has such a long reload you literally have to change the magazine. There’s no belt of ammo to switch, it’s essentially reloading a heavy rifle.
Yo bro I actually Really enjoy your videos. Keep it up dude ❤️😁
I can think of a gun worst then the sawed off... the pre patch epm3
me too. luftwaffe drilling.
The M30 is actually pretty good if you always aim above the chest.
Na-45 from AW...
It’s not a sniper you shouldn’t have damage multipliers by wear the shot hits
Rocker 1 we're talking about cod here. Not Walmart brand Halo
Top weapons that need a buff: everything that’s not the bar
The Luftwaffe drilling is good with the incendiary shells, it increases its OHK potential hugely. Once you run out of incendiary shells it sucks, unless you ads.
Getting one shot kill medals for the toggle action was easier than doing any camo challenge with the sawed off
I mainly play with the Combat Shotgun, I've tried the other shotguns and none of them match it.
R AR there is the brecci V4
tac 19
Yeh, combat's the best, but the toggle action isn't too bad either if you use steady aim and rapid fire; this thing fires six shells off in a flash, even faster than the M1216 from BO2. The long barrel puts me off, but once you get a variant it's all good. I'd say it's slighlty better at distance than the combat but up close you will get outgunned by a combat user. Against most other weapons, all smgs included, you can get the two rounds needed for a kill off before you're smoked.
R AR yeah the combat shotgun is beast, very long range especially with advanced rifling
Ditto. The non sawed off double barrel I’ve done okay with but nothing compares to combat.
Your coverage of those shotguns is comedy gold
BAR needs a buff. Someone was able to kill me when I was using it so it needs a buff. Literally unusable...
Surprised Chicken 😂
Surprised Chicken i agree
Same i used the bar and i got killed by a drilling... PLEASE NERF THE DRILLING AND BUFF THE BAR
Brother?
in that case nerf the p-08 and buff the bazooka
I find that the drilling has a stupidly weird pellet spread that severely punishes hip fire, but it does really well when aimed down sights. Maybe adding a speed-loader attachment to both of the double barrels, or just make a reload with both shells inserted simultaneously the standard reload
I think they need to redo the damage system for the shotguns like, say, mw2 did. Every cod that passes by makes shotguns worse and worse so now we can't even guarantee a kill with two hits on a double barrel.
That's just ridiculous.
Smashkey I like the bo3 Olympia that gun destroyed. Not sure exactly why but it did. I got that thing gold in about 4 hours of unlocking it.
Smashkey MW2 had the best gun balancing of all Call Of Duty games in history. All of them should strive to be that balanced.
But no let's put in a shotgun with 2 shots and 4ft range. Oh did I mention you need to hit both shots just to get a single kill? Enjoy!
avin r mw2 had awful balance, shotguns were op as shit, noobtubes, quickscoping, acr laser gun and you had to have stopping power and scavenger, so you could chose between steady aim, commando or dead silence.
Alex Strömberg and you could find videos of people dominating in that game with EVERY gun!!! That's called BALANCED.
avin r that's not really called balance. Any good player can dominate with a gun, even if it's bad, but just because people could be good with any gun doesnt mean its balancing is great that just means all guns were either overpowered or the person was just really good to dominate with a garbage gun
Adding steady aim to the Bren changes the gun completely. The hip fire becomes surprising good for moving around the map.
Bren needs its ads speed normalized with the other LMGs.
M30 Drilling needs more consistently
Sawed off needs to be completely reworked.
ProducerLu The Bren ADS is slower than all LMGs even with quickdraw, its basically what makes the gun garbo
You dont need ext mags with that gun since the Fire rate is so slow
I have Gold on it and it was a royal pain in the ass.
Decrease the Ads time on it and its actually usable.
I think there might be a common misconception that many guys here may be facing with LMGs. They're fucking LMGs. Also, the ADS time is slower on the Bren for a reason. It has more lethality than any other weapon in the game. With the 4x attachment, you already have a 30-round Karabin that can be mounted for even better accuracy and faster reloading. Extended mags is also very good for those who actually want to rush, as you won't be caught reloading as often, and the mag no longer takes up the entire right side of the screen.
Agree with your picks but surprised at the suggestion for the Bren, the RoF is so slow that the 30 round mag isn't even a problem, and that's where the main problem is with the Bren, it's overall slowness. Despite the 2 shot kill it's TTK is considerably slower than the other 3 LMGs and the TTK isn't competitive even at medium range with the better assault rifles either. It's generally very hard to use because it takes almost TWICE the time to ADS than every other gun in the game and the vertical magazine is very obstructive too. The only redeeming factor is the low recoil but the other LMGs don't have a whole lot themselves. Maybe a one hit headshot like was suggested with the SVT would be good
I've got one more level to max the SVT-40 then I'm NEVER touching it again. Easily the worst semiautomatic rifle in Call of Duty history.
Zachary Michael It's great in Hardcore, but elsewhere, it is pretty mediocre. Still, I like giving myself a challenge every once in a while by using it in a Core playlist.
4NewHop3 Yeah it's awful in core, and that's all I play.
Zachary Michael epm3 would like to have a word with you
Zachary Michael yeah it sucks...when i pick it off the ground and shoot i feel like im doing it in slowmo
EpicGamerzFail I forgot what that was... But omg yes, that was bad too.
The Olympia from BO1 should be how those two perform. I suggest having the luftwaffe have longer range with a one shot kill potential while the sawed off has better one shot kill potential up close and both should be able to reload much faster than they already do. Plus to make them slightly different. The sawed off should be better at hip firing while the luftwaffe is better at ads. Even though it doesn’t make much sense to ads a shotgun I feel like it would give them a different dynamic since they’re so similar already.
The four guns should be the shotguns
Neon Orange Combat Shotgun is great it's the only weapon I use on point de hoc and saint Marie maps.
Neon Orange The combat shotgun is actually not bad at all. It’s not a hitmarker machine like the two double barreled shotguns.
Combat shotgun although the best one is still inconsistent and very unforgiving
Drew Berry yeah, the pump shottys ok but still needs a bit of a buff to the range. The other three (especially the double barreled shottys) need a HUGE buff.
Neon Orange fuck shotguns
Thanks for the vid Ace. You are spot on about the shotguns! I used an unlock token on the double barrel shotgun and I feel like I wasted it.
Do top 5 best guns in hardcore mode
everything that has good mobility, long 1 shot kill range and low recoil.
Type 100
grease gun has a bigger one shot kill range in hardcore if u can manage the iron sight
bar
Soooo...... every gun. Every gun is the best in hardcore
Hey man, love your videos.
I was super surprised at the Svt-40 and bren being on the list!
The Svt-40 is when the game really started going right for me. I've seen videos advising hanging back or going for range shots and taking your time over a 2 shot kill, but I've found it so successful at slightly closer ranges, aiming low so that the recoil still takes to chest with rapid follow up shots (headshots being pretty useless). The massive drawback on it is lack of penetration through cover. I find the garand unusable compared to this, because of the recoil.
The bren, well you obviously can't move around with it well and you have to have extended mags. Maybe try it with a x4 scope on gustavs cannon as a substitute for a sniper. I often don't need to reload before dying. Chill out on the cannon and rain down on people. Good for people who don't like sniping or are inconsistent. Had a lot of fun with it on that map, although I prefer snipers.
I'm no pro and things be different after the patches since this video.
As I say, love your videos!
How is the m1a1 carbine not on this list? It doesn’t do anything better than anything - it loses to every other rifle and can’t beat anything up close. Furthermore, you suggested that the svt get the 1.8x with high caliber then proceed to say that the Bren shouldn’t only be good if you use an attachment. Contradictory.
I actually think the M1A1 is better than the Garand. The lower recoil is great for harassing distant enemies with repeated shots, and I've even won some close range battles through volume of fire. You can't do that on the Garand thanks to all that kick and the smaller mag.
I agree chris. That gun is worthless I've tried to give it a chance and get used to it but for me "I" am hopeless with it. I should note that I haven't used it in any hardcore matches though...anybody else use it in hardcore and how does it do?
SGT5105RIP m1a1 carbine is definitely the semi auto gun of choice in hardcore. It’s a one shot kill anywhere but the legs and it has a 15 bullet clip and basically no recoil ESPECIALLY with grip. The sight is also stellar for long range engagements. All around better than both other semi autos until you get to surface penetration kills.
you tripping, i mean the M1A1 isn't as strong as the other semi's, but its a freakin laser. I do pretty good with that thing every game i play with it
chrisR97 m1a1 isn't bad
I think they need to decrease the reload times on all lmgs
- decrease reload times on the bren/gpmg, to be best in class.
-increase fire rate on the bren slightly,
-increase svt center speed
-Increase the ads times on the
Bar, fg42, stg44, and M1941
-decrease the ads times to be around the new auto rifles on all LMGs
-Slight decrease to movement speeds with bar, fg42, stg,44, m1941
-buff all shotgun damage (not including incediary bullets)
-decrease hipfire spread on the m1g,m1a1, svt, and gewehr. To be more accurate up close.
- nerf auto rifles extended mags to 25 bullets for bar/fg42. 30 for m1941, and 40 for stg.
-decrease accuracy of auto rifles, add recoil to stg44 at long range
- karabin should 1 shot in chest/head
-make m30 best at long range shotty, pump all rounder, sawed off best at close, at leave toggle alone.
-make grip more effective, slight decrease to accuracy spread for auto guns.
-nerf the ads time with the reflex sight on
-akimbo sawed off
-add a revolver for free
-add single shots like the mosin nagat ( WaW style)
-change sprint out times
thats the most historically unaccurate requests right there, gj make the game even more inaccurate
B-ALB Nathan what this game is 0 percent accurate in the first place bro.
B-ALB Nathan it makes sense to slow down the auto rifles ads time and movement to be More line with mg. As the single shot rifles are lighter. As well as decrease the accuracy, because it's the same as the single shot. Also hip firing the single shot rifles are easier due to the shape of the stock and the slower rpm.
most of the guns are quite accurate, except the mg42, in game its not even close to shooting 1300-1500 rpm
1 like for dedication
3,2 and 1. Literally every shotgun except combat
eXACTLY
I agree 100% with this list, although i feel like the Toggle Action should get a small decrease in range because the damage and 4 bullets in the magazine sure do fuck you up in half-medium range
Idk if you tested this but i noticed much tighter shot spreads with the shotgun when I ads, so would those hit markers be kills if you where aiming instead of hip firing? Idk just a thought. I still think shotguns should 1 shot at those extreme ranges ads or not.
It's odd, shotguns used to require people to aim down sight in the older CODs, because without it you have shit accuracy. I'm not sure when they changed it so you don't need to ADS to get kills even at range. Stupid.
ADS should improve both accuracy and kill range.
I use shotguns a lot in WW2 and got them diamond. aiming down sights helps a lot but not enough and when your running around with a shotgun a lot of the time you need to get that first shot off immediately or you die. so basically even tho aiming down sights improves your chances its not enough of an improvement to risk giving them extra time to shoot you most of the time
I ADS pretty much 100% and can confirm this does shit-all for the Luftwaffe. I can't tell you how pissed off this gun makes me. Double Barrel should have the BEST range in class due to it's long barrel and extremely small clip size, but it just doesn't happen.
Getting those 2 shotguns gold was possibly the hardest 2 guns I've completed in my 10 years of playing cod. Even a lot of hitmarkers on hard-core. Terrible weapons.
pretty much all of the shotguns need buffs even the combat shotgun needs a buff, a sniper should NOT be able to do a shotguns job better then a shotgun
maybe your just bad with shottys
In fact they don’t
completely agree with the shotguns, the only way to do the one-shot-medals for those guns atm is to use them in hardcore, which is even more difficult considering everyone else will be using smgs and rifles
All shotguns need a buff in damage and range and of course consistency...
No. I want shotguns to be absolutely fucking useless. Shotguns ruin cods (broccoli from bo3, model(s) from mw2)
Perkaholic and quick scoping doesn’t?
Here’s a tip... take corners wide.
Just cause you don’t like something doesn’t mean it should be useless
Pretty much just range though
I agree mostly except the Bren is still fairly good if you use mountain you can reload it fairly quickly when mounted, I would probably change it for the karabin as haveing to shoot some one twice when sniping is rather difficult
Louis Hetenyi I agree with you why did why did he put the Brynn on this list
I loved the SVT 40 in Cod WAW
But why
I agree with the shotties on Core (which, yes is where most folks play), but the shotties are One Hit Kill medal-machines in hardcore (you'll still die a lot, but on certain maps you can do pretty well, Point du Hoc, Caretan, USS Texas...)
Shotguns need a buff, semi-auto rifles need a buff, sniper aim down site time as well as aim centering needs a serious nerf...It's better to use a sniper for close range gun fights than any other gun except the combat shotgun, which is absolute BS and completely rage inducing
Jesse Wright theyve nerfed snipers every game except for mw3 starting at bo1. Bo2 nerfed. Aw nerfed. Ghosts nerfed repeatedly. Iw nerfed. Bo3 no aim assist, ww2 no aim assist except enfield which isnt even that good. Oh and ww2 already has no aim assist and has been hit with a nerf.. yet we adapt and continue to play around it. Everyone cries "its so overpowered" really? 2=skill players at mid/short range 1 sniper 1 reggun of your choice same reaction time the regguns gona win most of the time unless shots are missed.
I 100% respect and agree that quick-scoping should always be a thing in COD, but my argument is to make it more skill based in this game rather than something that a new player with 15 minutes under their belt could pick up on immediately. I've been in lobbies where 9/12 people are rocking snipers because it is just that easy in ww2 to get those 1 shot kills. So maybe increase idle sway on snipers or add more error to aim centering in my opinion.
Like for example: I personally believe I suck at sniping. I always have in every prior Cod. Yet I got diamond camo on all my snipers in WW2 within the first 2 months of release...
no maybe your just bad with every weapon
Lol k
When you are loving the M30 because you give it a chance to learn the sweet spots on the one hit kills and the only downside is the long ish reload for a weapon with 2 rounds
Gotta say one thing about the drilling... W/incindiary rounds loaded and advanced rifling, you can get one shots at near twice the range of The Winchester Shotgun.
Jimmie Miller I've been saying this to the Reddit parrots for weeks. They see one ace video where he only tests the combat shotgun and they generalize it to every other shotgun. People just want info spoonfed to them without doing any testing themselves
Jimmie Miller Incendiary shells are fucking cancerous and you only get 4 of them.
The Drilling is sick. There's a big learning curve but once you get it, oh God is it beautiful
The waffe is shit in my opinion. Brought that gun to hardcore and got 3 hitmarkers at close range multiple times.....
u can't get 3 hit kills on the fastest gun in the game
Personally with the bren, I feel the mag is fine, however, if they want to buff it, they could increase the speed at which you aim down the sights, or possibly provide a buff to the reload, or maybe do both and cut a bit of the time off each.
The drilling should have the rifle bullet at all times and have it balanced accordinglt
even the rifle bullet has hitmarkers up close, i have had multiple
You have to hit body up to kill someone with the riffle bullet
Agree with this list with a few other suggestions of my own.
My recommendation for the SVT-40 would be to see the rate of fire increased. It could get a pass on recoil if it shot a little faster, given it does recoil more than the M1 Garand but does more damage.
The Bren could serve well in a mid-damage paratrooper role (drop damage to 35 flat, the Mark 1 portrayed in game fired the .303 British, same as the Enfield) with a higher rate of fire and larger magazine. It would then be comparable to the Lewis gun which shared the same caliber round.
Double barreled shotguns would benefit from more DPS per pellet. Hit spread seems fine on both of them. And the sawed off should have higher DPS regardless since it's the prestige weapon.
I do have a few guns I'd add to the list.
Bazooka needs better splash damage for infantry. And probably a better straight line for taking down aircraft. Lag comp in this game makes it nearly impossible to get a kill with it unless the enemy is a deer in the headlights when they see the rocket coming. Or shooting down recon planes. Lag is so bad, it's hard to lead.
Grease Gun could use a slight ROF increase. Unless it's placebo it feels weaker than it did in the Beta.
Type 100 needs either a damage buff or a rate of fire increase. Period. The 4-shot kill range isn't that much better than the Waffe that it makes it worth using and you can't use it in hipfire at all. It is completely outclassed at close-medium range by the PPSH and the MP40 and it doesn't stand a chance at any weapon in point blank.
I was expecting all 4 shotguns 😂
Combat shotgun much better now they changed it. this guy has a vid about it uloaded yesterday. I had a challenge for shotgun kils so I used it range is much better check it out sometime.
I am a fan of the rage it induces for some reason some get extremely angry when you kill them with a shotgun. I dropped over 50 kills on Griffin war with it the other day.. you're right now that challenges are done I probably will never use it again.
Quinn Coulombe combat is pretty good
The m30 needs it’s one shot potential buffed and reload speed or reworked animation cause god it’s real slow and you get hitmarkers in places where it feels right to 1 shot kill since it’s a long double barreled shotgun. The sawed off needs a buff both damage, longer range and reload speed
I would never even try and run the double barrel without hustle. you should be able to run without but it's damn near impossible double barrel was amazing as it could be in world at war.
The double barrel variants ABSOLUTELY need a buff. It is wasteful to have to fire off both shots to kill ONE person most times with the limited ammo capacity.
The Bren is secretly awesome though despite being an underdog. I'd love to have less ads time with it, maybe some extra clip size too - but I've had a lot of fun with it in its current state despite the setbacks. It's probably one of the few guns that works well against snipers in sightline battles. (FMJ really shines there, and the Bipod can help win you some fights too if set up first)
The ACOG works surprisingly well on it - though FMJ and Extended Mags reign supreme.
Simple, buff the shotguns and nerf the snipers specifically kar98k. The ADS with the kar98k is insane.
And yes, for a division prestige weapon the SVT is surprisingly worthless. I’d have never done the infantry prestige knowing that was waiting or me. Great video as always.
Matt T kar98k is not insane its the best sniper in my opinion but the Springfield has 100% damage and you can get hit markers
but the snipers take aim
m1 bazooka. the explosive radius is so small you have to hit someone directly to consistently do damage. i know its meant to take down streaks but that absolutely should not mean it should be useless if you need to kill someone with it
I don't understand how in cod games, rocket launchers can give HITMARKERS
@@elisetehhooman4236 more then likely for balance
there is a rifle bullet you can put on them it redeems it a little
even that gets a lot of hit markers
Decoy cobra you idiot it is bodyshot/headshot 1 shot not leg shot get better at aiming
JKay11235 The Luftwaffe Drilling has 3 barrels and the third one is meant to fire a rifle round - hence the "rifle bullet" attachment in this game, you dummy.
In this gameplay the luftwaffe drilling is being used in hip firing situations. you need to aim down sights almost like quick scoping with a shotgun. Its more accurate and gets a lot of one shot kills from really far range
I know this sounds crazy, but the type 100 is a fucking turd shooter. Everybody melts me with that gun, and when I use it it takes 100 shots to kill. I suppose it’s quite aptly named
Brendan Kwapis it does piss poor damage but has no recoil at all. Try to use it as more of a passive or defensive weapon and hold down short-medium range sightlines.
Brendan Kwapis that's my second favorite SMG. I like the first one whatever it's called. Slow fire rate, just right for me.
Yeah. All the smgs suck unless your right on the enemy. Just don't miss a single bullet or your dead. The very first assault rifle is the best smg in the game. Same damage, same fast fire rate, only more range.
I'm only using the Combat Shotgun, the Kar98k, the STG44, the PPSH, the Bar, and that first rifle whatever it's called. 6 whole weapons that I can get kills with without hit markers or getting melted. Thanks sledgehammer.
wesmel06 try the LMGs they're all good AF. Just don't waste your time and money on the new one they just released. Total rip off.
Oh yeah I play only regular, not hardcore. If you play hardcore idk which gun to use.
Pretty sure it has the worst TTK out of all the SMGs, it is just super accurate
The whole game feels inconsistent as hell, even when I'm having a solid session of games nothing feels consistent at any range or weapon class, save maybe the Kar 98K.
who thinks the shotguns in the cod series have ben nerved sense black ops 2
What the SVT-40 Needs.
-Rate Of Fire
-Increased Headshot Strength
What the Bren Needs.
-Increase Rate Of Fire
-ADS Speed
What both M30LD and Sawed Off Needs.
-Intense Rate Of Fire
-Increased Reload Speed
-Damage
The Bren is insanely good....
Preston Melkerson ehh I like to use the svt more
Yea I use it
Yeah I love my Bren class. Infantry division with rapid fire, grip and extended mag. Granted you don't need 600 bullets since you will rarely reload. But I can't find a good balance with 2 attachments.
QuickDraw grip extended mag
Preston Melkerson I agree. Bren is op. A 30 round magazine on a gun that renders a consistent 2 shot kill is generous. I finished the camo challenges for it in normal game modes in just a few hours
I carry the M30 as my secondary weapon when using the Rifleman training, because it shoots those two rounds faster than the combat shotgun and it seemingly gets the job done. But that's because I've usually already hit them at least once with a rifle or SMG. That is the only time I use a shotgun.
The svt 40 is good!
It's your opinion you don't have to go to full on triggered mode on us
VexingTiger 037 m1 garand is still better
Couldn’t agree more, just completed all camo challenges for the shotguns and the amount of times I had to put in both shells and the smack people with the double barrels was stupid. You then have to wait a month of Sundays to reload them!!!
I’ve started using the kar98k AKA best pump action shotgun in the game - patch this please sledgehammer - listen to the fans.
I spent about 20k on the gewehr 😭
Tyler Cenko it’s actually only about 10K
Brandon Young I got it for 2k
10K without previously having any of the items you need for it
Brandon Young really? Thats cheap compared to the Sten
The Gewehr is the best semi auto rifle
The muftwaffe is actually incredible when you aim down the sights. It has the biggest range of all the shotguns if you aim it’s crazy range
Should of added the MP40 to this list, they fucked that gun up
Clorox Bleach
Use it with extended mags, advanced rifling and rapid fire, it’ll melt anything you point it at
Skunk Gaming the recoil is a problem tho
patch sped up fire rate of MP40 last night. It was a close to a god gun on WAW glad its not like that here.
TroubleTwo I use rapid fire advanced rifling and grip
Power you just don't know how to use it
Ace, love the videos. This one is odd because When I play hardcore, the shotguns are shooting me from across the street, never miss close and the incd.rounds just cook everybody including me. Always somebody with one in close quarters maps just hip fire killing before u get your gun up.
Does anyone else keep losing connection?
Code Elite yea on xbox
Yep
Code Elite I'm a hotspot player cuz were I'm at the internet is complete shit and I've only ever lost connection one time.
Yup
Code Elite you are so cool
The Bren is one of my top 3 favorite guns in this game, but I will confess the ADS time is ridiculous. Rare to win a head-on fight because that drawback is so inflated.
M30 Luftwaffe
SvT-40
Gewehr 43
M1928
MaxAero where’s the sawed off
Brandon Young like ace said they're both double barrels so count the sawed off in there too, i just had to make it 4 guns
The gewehr is ok
MaxAero the gewehr and tommy are shredders they just take some skill
Qittoxx studio Only in hardcore. Same with the M1A1
although I agree on the shotguns, I have learned that using the sawn-off with guns out while running makes it very useful
What!? The m30 is amazing, it’s just only hold 2 rounds. I never get a hit maker with the m30, but the sawed off it’s just terrible
Theodore Williams I have never gotten an insta kill with the M30 (outside of headshots and HC ofc)
Theodore Williams
What M30 are you using? The one I have shoots sponges.
[Insert Username Here] [Insert Something here] well when I use incendiary rounds I get one shots, but get hit makers when I don’t
All I get is hit markers on it
finaaly someone understands how good the m3o is
Pump action shotgun with incendiary rounds is fantastic. Either a one shot kill from the bullet or the guy burns because of the incendiary round. Great gun to have some fun with.
Svt is a god gun, I got 83 kills on one half of war on operation breakout! And yes those shotguns are garbage... even in hardcore where they are a oneshot kill!
for some reason I do better with SVT than Garand
DaBeast_04 Yeah, SVT is great, people either hate it or love it. No in between I noticed.
Yeah it's actually good
I'm Juxie People really need to know how to aim with it
I agree that the Luftwaffe drilling needs a buff for its regular shells but the incendiary shells are amazing
Bruh SVT is good af smh 🤦♂️ I know its ur OPINION but still
He didn't say it was bad. It's just the m1 is better.
BrownieKuma72 true
H2O_RICHYRICH48 the m1 Garand is so much better tho
Dont bully the m30, i think it could definatly use a buff though. Nice vid
Solution/counterbalance:
Saw-off shotgun- increase damage to 10
Luftwaffe drilling- add 2 more shotgun barrels (badass)
Combat(trench) gun- decrease damage by 2 pts, increase range by 3 pts
Hopefully there are more secondary weapons coming out later down the line because the ones that are currently in game don't feel balanced at all and have no use when you gotta use perks like Prime. I literally shot someone three times with the 1911 at point blank range and he still managed to put me down first.
The Luftwaffe can be good if you ADS. every single shot you took was hip fire, which drastically affects pellet spread. Advanced Rifling + Steady Aim will also help your odds
Ace: I cant think of anything worse
Me yelling at my monitor: THE FUCKING CHICOM!!!!!
It was bad, eventho I liked the challenge, but these db shotguns are just way worse
SlimFish3r the chicom was still shit tho
It's weird because aside from the waffe, when I want to tryhard in things where there are a million snipers.... I always go armored class and luftwaffe drilling and dumpster everyone with the fire or fast doubletaps
Completly agree. Hopefully the buff helps. Getting these guns gold is a nightmare.
I agree with most of these points. Add 1.8 HS multiplier to both the Garand and the SVT-40, and disable reload for the Garand. But bad guns... what about the potato cannon from IW, Howitzer?
When he said "I'd be more consistent with a shovel in my hand" it hit me right there because I love double barreled shotgun, I mean don't get me started on the waw double shotty and the Olympia. But sadly these guns are but shadows in comparison.
Quick scoping needs to be addressed in this game it’s so rampant it’s really hurting multiplayer
I've had matches on Gustav Cannon and US Texas where I just equipped a stealth class, went prone in
a corner, and did something else until the match ended because of how bad it got. It's not fun. I hope they do something about it soon.
Being a hardcore player, I can honestly say that the STG44 and the PPSH give me a way harder time than the BAR and FG 42, though I don't deny that the BAR is high tier, I don't think it's overpowered, the STG almost always takes 3 shots to kill and actually has a larger damage fall off range, as well as a much faster fire rate. Though my easiest matches do come from using the BAR, I absolutely refuse to use the STG until it gets nerfed...as that gun tends to be much more overpowered than the BAR imo. Also I noticed you forgot to mention that the BAR's damage fall off ranger got nerfed within the first 2 weeks of the games release...another not is the Luftwaffe Drilling is actually the best shotgun to use with the incendiary shells next to the toggle action. As a regular shotgun the Drilling is absolutely horrible almost always requiring two shots to get a single kill and sometimes not more than that, however the Drilling is the ONLY shotgun with ranged one shot potential when equipped with incendiary shells. Though I do agree that no attachment or division perk should be required for a fun to be viable. I would definitely still agree though that the Sawed Off shotgun is absolutely horrible in this game, along with the M1A1 Carbine and the Lee Enfield.
Love the vids !!
It's like you read my mind. Especially the shotties. I know I'll get ripped for comparing a video game gun to one in real life but a sawed off shotgun at close range would almost cut someone in half. Here nothing.