ive casually been following this channel because it showed up in my feed a couple weeks ago... Julian you are doing a great job. sound like a real analyst FRFR. keep up the good work
Been saying this for the last four seasons - If you really went by most "valuable", Allen would be the MVP every season! Without a doubt. No one does more for their team than him. NO ONE! The Bills would be a 3 to 4 win team without Allen, yet BECAUSE of him they're a serious contender every year. That is the definition of valuable. I've heard you talk about it, so I believe we align here - Mahomes has arguably the greatest offensive mind in the history of the NFL on his sideline, not to mention the greatest pass catching TE to ever lace 'em up! This season, Jackson has the most dominant RB of his generation toting the rock for him! Who, up to just a week or two ago, a lot of people were saying was an MVP candidate in his own right! Lamar Jackson is a special, special talent. He's gonna have his own place high in the history books when he decides to hang it up. Mahomes will go down as one of - if not THE - greatest QBs to ever play the game. Especially if you just combined talent plus resume. Allen is just different though, man. In over 35 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen anyone like him. The dude is one of one. By the way, I am not a Bills fan, I just watch the games.
I think they pick lamar jackson because he's black. And I'm saying this as a black man. The voters for mvp are predominantly black I don't understand how he won 2 years in a row. I'm not hating I just think the stats speak for themselves.
@jakieresykes3644 agreed they don't even look at RB like if they pick jackson over Henry ima be livid 🙄. The only way the ravens win is when Derrick Henry runs the ball more than 15 times never because of thier quarterback who crumbles under pressure
As we stand right now, yes, Josh Allen is the MVP & if you remember bro, he was my pre-season pick to win MVP. He's been balling balling. He'll win it if he stays the course
It’s funny because Lamar Jackson Fans were saying how can Josh Allen beat the MVP over Lamar Jackson when Lamar beat him head to head well if that’s the case the case the guy who Lamar Jackson lost to Josh Allen Just Beat
@@jctsliceMe personally I don’t even think Lamar should be number 2 I would go Josh Allen at 1 Saquan Barkley at 2. Jared Golf at 3. I would put Lamar at 4 and the way the Steelers defense I would put TJ Watt into that conversation
@explodingheadshorrormoviepod This is in reference to MVP talk. Even the most diehard KC fan can't say Mahomes is playing at his usual MVP level this year.
@@justmyopinion7269 he still has that skill and magic. He isn’t shitting the bed they’re just playing a different style offense. Imagine if they didn’t have him what would their record be?
Lamar is an unbelievable player. His 2 MVP seasons were not because he was the best statistical player, especially last season. Josh was CLEARLY the statistically better player last year, and IT WASNT EVEN CLOSE. This should be Josh's season if all determining factors are equal to previous seasons. Go Bills.
FUN FACT: Ravens are 2-4 in games where they have more pass attempts than rushing attempts in the game. If that doesn't tell you who the MVP of the Ravens is I dont know what does.
Fun fact: the only team with a winning record by the end of the year that the Bills have beat is KC. Let’s see how the next month plays out before we start giving flowers out.
to your point about it not mattering who is what seed... as a bills fan, how about this... I genuinely think Joe Burrow is the MVP this year. the sports politics of it dictate that it has to be a guy on a contender but bump that... there are two sides of the ball. A slightly better defense for Cincy and he's running away with it.
Don’t do that because Lamar Jackson last year had the number 1 defense and the same number 1 defense held the Chiefs to 17 points they basically held them scoreless the entire second half and all Lamar and the Ravens offense could do is put up 14 points when Josh Allen had the number defense he went and got into a shootout with Patrick Mahomes the problem his defense ended getting torched
@@amadizyair3441Well if that’s case I know you a Mahomes fan cause you in a lot of people comments than Mahomes can’t be the Goat because he took 2 L to Tom Brady
I’m a Bills fan and I normally wouldn’t care about the MVP. It’s turned into the “QB on the best team or best TD:Int ratio” award these days, but I’m just concerned that some day after Allen retires and he doesn’t have an MVP award or SB, after the 5 year wait period after retirement, voters are just going to compare him to Matt Ryan or Cam Newton, who both have MVPs and SB appearances and probably not going to the HoF, and decide that Allen doesn’t belong there as well. As you said, the media is so susceptible to recency bias, so after 5 years will they forget about Allen’s greatness if he doesn’t have a room full of trophies to his name?
@ the defense is much, much less relevant than other players on your very same offense. His defense isn’t making him play the quarterback position better. Where Mark Andrew’s directly does, and Henry directly AND indirectly does. At the very, very least, DCs have to game plan for the best runningback in football, which opens up the game plan for a qb.
Allen’s numbers are literally orders of magnitude better than Jackson’s every other year of his career. It’s not even close. Lose the stupid argument, if it were about numbers, Jackson would never have won an MVP. His numbers are decent, historically, first a 1970s QB. Check your stats before responding kids
I honestly don’t care if Lamar should be the favorite rn. What doesn’t make sense is how last year he won it over Allen. Like everyone is bringing up stats now but last year when Allen was had the better stats he wasn’t given the same treatment. My personal opinion is that they got it wrong last year and that Lamar is still the favorite so for
Quick question for you. In your opinion, what is the difference between "the best player" and most valuable player? Isn't that one in the same? Love your content brother!
If Lamar and the ravens doesn’t win the afc north Lamar can forget mvp. Not to mention he has an actual offense with stars while the bills have Josh Allen. At this point Buffalo should be the destination for no name receivers trying to cash out on a big payday because Josh Allen (and I agree with skip bayless saying he has to be referred to by first and last name every time he’s mentioned) is making guys look great who otherwise would be special teamers
Im a Lamar guy and I think it's a close ass race right now. I think Lamar has a had a tougher schedule by a large margin. The Bills have had only 1 win against a team I would consider a contender. It also helps that his defense hasn't been the worst passing defense in the league for a while. Lamar has done enough to win 10/11 of his games. His only bad game has been against the Steelers which have one of the best defenses in the league. Josh Allen is playing great but to be fair, his schedule has been lightwork. His only accomplishment is beating the Chiefs. After this week he only has 1 more tough game against the Lions, if he continues to play at a high level and has a statement win against the Lions he'll be #1 unless Lamar Jackson, who has games against some tough teams has a run like last year.
Sure, if Tucker hits either one of those field goals last week Lamar is still in front. He leads Allen in every category except Allen has 3 more TD runs. Just give it time. Josh had a game last month where he completed 9 passes. People are so easily influenced by one week of action. Just like when 2 years ago before the season the Bills were declared Super Bowl favorites based upon that last quarter of action against the Chiefs in the playoffs. When it comes to anything Buffalo related, ya have to temper your expectations. Take it from a local.
You know what's funny? I thought Derrick Henry was WASHED and OLD before this season. All of a sudden he's the best RB we've ever seen. I wonder if it has to do with the threat of Lamar running and him running the read option and tearing defenses up. It's funny how people switch up.
1:30 How is josh allen absolute Number 1 in mvp race? He isnt top 5 in any stat. Not in tds, completion % he is 25th , passer rating he is not in the top 5. He also only played three teams above 500 and won 1 . While Lamar faced 7 Teams above 500 won atleat 5 of those , won h2h against the bills and is top 5 in almost every relevant qb category. Even burrow is playing better. Billa might get the 1 seed they end the season playing new, jet and new. And besides the lions only one other 500. Team
Yep. It’s ridiculous. Lamar has him beat in almost every category. Also don’t forget last month Josh had a 9 completion game. 9 I don’t think any mvp had a game that bad
I just think it’s disingenuous to say Lamar’s MVP case took a huge hit while Josh’s rose when Lamar has been better than Josh, literally all season. He has Josh beat in every stat except rushing TD & INT. If we’re gonna nitpick with team records then that’s 100% fine but the H2H has to matter as well. (Although, it was a Derrick Henry game) Lamar’s worst game he had 200 yards a TD & a pick Josh Allen had the literal worst passing performance in like 40 years 9/30. Lamar has had only 1 bad game and Josh has had atleast 3 average to “bad” games. The context behind the Steelers/Chiefs is fair take but nah, can’t say I think that’s a strong enough narrative. I also don’t like the “Josh means more to the Bills” this is the only year Josh hasn’t had a great weapon. Lamar JUST got a great weapon. We’ve seen Lamar do exactly what Josh is doing and then he gets a RB in Derrick Henry and people use it against him. Take both QB’s off their teams and both teams are picking top 10 in the draft next year. They’re equally as valuable to their teams. Josh has led his squad to more wins and Lamar has lost more games. Josh is the reason they win but It’s also very fair to say Lamar ISNT the reason the ravens lose.
I mean josh allen, no college offers coming out of hs. Went to wyoming. No one wanted him. Idj how you go from 0 to mvp in the nfl unoess you are special
But I'll be hard pressed to think any chiefs fan really believe kc would stay unbeaten I'm a fan Patrick mahomes and that offense is complete garbage, our LT AND CB2 and lack of pass rush , Is our 3 biggest weakness And josh allen and bills exposed all 3
I’m sorry, but one play on 4th and 2 where players are afraid to tackle because of the soft league rules doesn’t make you the mvp. Allen’s numbers this year are mid, he’s only in the running because his name is josh allen. Burrow, lamar, goff all having better years. There is a reason this man got voted most overrated, he’s a great player, but come on
I like Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback but i said if there’s 1 quarterback you wanna argue who’s better than him it’s Josh Allen but this why I said Mahomes and Allen are the 2 quarterbacks in football because you see how Lamar Jackson Fans before use to say before oh he doesn’t have anybody now of all sudden he does have somebody that somebody is Derek Henry who you can argument is arguably the best running back in football and he still struggling you see how they change the narrative
@ yea absolutely and it can swing the other way in a couple of weeks. I’m with you, I’m not big on MVPs especially when it’s become a QB award. When the Rams won the Super Bowl, that year and a few others it could have easily and rightfully so went to Arron Donald.
Lamars defense has been terrible! And his schedule is way tougher than Josh Allen's. Look at the defenses Lamar has had to face this year so far while also having a defense that lets anyone have their best game against them (except Josh Allen)
@@jakieresykes3644 Offensively he's doing perfectly fine? They're the #1 offense in the league. He's the #1 or #2 in EVERY passing category. He's #1 in Rushing for QBs. Where is HE struggling? He's played amazing this year and the offense is carrying this team. His defense has been terrible. I wouldn't say he's struggling at all.
@@jakieresykes3644 Lamar Jackson's weapons aren't anything crazy either. His WR room was considered one of if not THE worst WR room before the season started (According to many analysts like Nick Wright). He didn't have anywhere near as many weapons as his contemporaries for his entire career BUT YOU GIVE HIM A 30 YEAR OLD RUNNING BACK WHO EVERYONE SAID WAS WASHED. Now he for whatever reason has too many weapons. I like our offense and I think we have solid pieces but the revisionist history is hilarious. And please try to understand football is a team sport. Defense also matters, and when you're team allows 300+ passing yards a game. It's tough to win no matter how good your offense is (Bengals are a prime example). I think because of that, it puts our team in obvious pass situations and Lamar has showed the world he can pass with anyone. We've lost games against competent defenses because Lamar didn't score 30-40 points (except Steelers, Lamars only bad game imo) and our defense didn't do anything against offenses any solid team would stop.
1:54 hey man u ars everyday talking contradiction! Yo silly logics goes against the Fundamental objectives and the purpose of why they play the game. I'm here in the comments trying to help you :MAKE SENSE OF YO NONSENSE " MVP'S is completely all about stats and wins QB! BUT u conveniently disregard QB wins & now QB stats Patrick mahomes 1st season as stater Stats 5K, 50TD passing , next season wins SB that off-season chiefs signs him to NFL biggest contract But QB'S wins and stats doesn't fit yo narratives so it doesn't matter!
Bullshit! Lamar has better numbers, won their head to head and outplayed him, plays in a way harder division. Allen threw 9 for 31 this season in a game are you kidding me🤣🤣🤣🤣Allen will choke he’s a pick off machine. Lamar will win MVP once again
ive casually been following this channel because it showed up in my feed a couple weeks ago... Julian you are doing a great job. sound like a real analyst FRFR. keep up the good work
Thank you so much! I really really appreciate it. Comments like this honestly keep me motivated to keep making content. So thank you!
this is why bills vs lions is gonna be the game of the year
Might be the 1st of 2 meetings
Would actually be insane and neither of them have won a bowl😂 so somebodies getting there first😂🔥#GoBills🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yea that would be an awesome Super Bowl
MVPS are nice , but any player would give it up for a Lomardi Trophy! Go Bills!
Only a handful of us said "ya know, if these Bills come together like they think they can, they might actually be onto something"
Been saying this for the last four seasons - If you really went by most "valuable", Allen would be the MVP every season! Without a doubt. No one does more for their team than him. NO ONE! The Bills would be a 3 to 4 win team without Allen, yet BECAUSE of him they're a serious contender every year. That is the definition of valuable. I've heard you talk about it, so I believe we align here - Mahomes has arguably the greatest offensive mind in the history of the NFL on his sideline, not to mention the greatest pass catching TE to ever lace 'em up! This season, Jackson has the most dominant RB of his generation toting the rock for him! Who, up to just a week or two ago, a lot of people were saying was an MVP candidate in his own right! Lamar Jackson is a special, special talent. He's gonna have his own place high in the history books when he decides to hang it up. Mahomes will go down as one of - if not THE - greatest QBs to ever play the game. Especially if you just combined talent plus resume. Allen is just different though, man. In over 35 years of watching the NFL, I've never seen anyone like him. The dude is one of one. By the way, I am not a Bills fan, I just watch the games.
I think they pick lamar jackson because he's black. And I'm saying this as a black man. The voters for mvp are predominantly black I don't understand how he won 2 years in a row. I'm not hating I just think the stats speak for themselves.
@@camster900He definitely shouldn’t have won it last year it should have been Josh Allen or Christian Mccaffrey
@jakieresykes3644 agreed they don't even look at RB like if they pick jackson over Henry ima be livid 🙄. The only way the ravens win is when Derrick Henry runs the ball more than 15 times never because of thier quarterback who crumbles under pressure
@@camster900 Definitely agree and I definitely think Saquan should be in the conversation as well
@jakieresykes3644 agreed u hurdle any man backwards u in the conversation 😂💯 regardless of his stats which are amazing
As we stand right now, yes, Josh Allen is the MVP & if you remember bro, he was my pre-season pick to win MVP. He's been balling balling. He'll win it if he stays the course
It’s funny because Lamar Jackson Fans were saying how can Josh Allen beat the MVP over Lamar Jackson when Lamar beat him head to head well if that’s the case the case the guy who Lamar Jackson lost to Josh Allen Just Beat
@jakieresykes3644 head to head with QBs to me is always dicey because of the dynamic of the game of football. It should never solely be QB vs QB
@@jctsliceMe personally I don’t even think Lamar should be number 2 I would go Josh Allen at 1 Saquan Barkley at 2. Jared Golf at 3. I would put Lamar at 4 and the way the Steelers defense I would put TJ Watt into that conversation
Yea man you once again are not wrong
As we stand right now it’s Lamar. Look at the stats.
Josh and saquon are the most valuable players to their teams in the entire nfl if were talking about actual value
Josh didnt "beat" Patrick and Patrick didn't "beat" Lamar and Lamar didn't "beat" Josh. Their TEAMS won. Who means the most to their team? Josh Allen.
Imagine Chiefs without Mahomes?? Cmon man
@explodingheadshorrormoviepod
This is in reference to MVP talk. Even the most diehard KC fan can't say Mahomes is playing at his usual MVP level this year.
@@justmyopinion7269 he still has that skill and magic. He isn’t shitting the bed they’re just playing a different style offense. Imagine if they didn’t have him what would their record be?
@explodingheadshorrormoviepod
Ok, you win bro. Not that important.
Lamar is an unbelievable player. His 2 MVP seasons were not because he was the best statistical player, especially last season. Josh was CLEARLY the statistically better player last year, and IT WASNT EVEN CLOSE. This should be Josh's season if all determining factors are equal to previous seasons.
Go Bills.
Lions winning a game goff throws 5 interceptions in kinda proves goff not an MVP
So we didn’t need Goff to get back in that game 😂😂
Nah
Jared Goff is the definition of the Hall of Very Good
FUN FACT: Ravens are 2-4 in games where they have more pass attempts than rushing attempts in the game. If that doesn't tell you who the MVP of the Ravens is I dont know what does.
Casual take. Vs the Chiefs he should’ve got more carries. But those other 3 losses were because defense, drops, penalties, and missed field goals
@@TopTierHaterI mean he’s not really wrong
Fun fact: the only team with a winning record by the end of the year that the Bills have beat is KC. Let’s see how the next month plays out before we start giving flowers out.
@@jakieresykes3644Prolly the same way before Henry got there and guess who the mvp was. Low resolution take.
OH MY GOFF ….OH MY JOSH ….OH MY SUPERBOWL 2025
to your point about it not mattering who is what seed... as a bills fan, how about this... I genuinely think Joe Burrow is the MVP this year. the sports politics of it dictate that it has to be a guy on a contender but bump that... there are two sides of the ball. A slightly better defense for Cincy and he's running away with it.
Yeah I legit think it’s a fair point. I don’t think seeding should matter
Jared Goff is second imo in the MVP voting
I love how people bring up Josh Allen playoff record as a slight to Lamar when they both get as far divisional round or 1 afc championship game
Don’t do that because Lamar Jackson last year had the number 1 defense and the same number 1 defense held the Chiefs to 17 points they basically held them scoreless the entire second half and all Lamar and the Ravens offense could do is put up 14 points when Josh Allen had the number defense he went and got into a shootout with Patrick Mahomes the problem his defense ended getting torched
@@jakieresykes3644and they both took a L who cares about the stats tell Josh Allen to win a mvp or something first
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@@amadizyair3441Well if that’s case I know you a Mahomes fan cause you in a lot of people comments than Mahomes can’t be the Goat because he took 2 L to Tom Brady
They both choke but only one franchises season always ends in disappointment….
I hope Josh wins it. Lamar chokes every year but especially bad when he’s the mvp. 2019 and 2023 perfect examples
I’m a Bills fan and I normally wouldn’t care about the MVP. It’s turned into the “QB on the best team or best TD:Int ratio” award these days, but I’m just concerned that some day after Allen retires and he doesn’t have an MVP award or SB, after the 5 year wait period after retirement, voters are just going to compare him to Matt Ryan or Cam Newton, who both have MVPs and SB appearances and probably not going to the HoF, and decide that Allen doesn’t belong there as well. As you said, the media is so susceptible to recency bias, so after 5 years will they forget about Allen’s greatness if he doesn’t have a room full of trophies to his name?
Lamar has Mark Andrews and King Henry on his squad. We have so lost the plot on what MVP is.
Josh Allen has a 100x better defense.
@ the defense is much, much less relevant than other players on your very same offense. His defense isn’t making him play the quarterback position better. Where Mark Andrew’s directly does, and Henry directly AND indirectly does. At the very, very least, DCs have to game plan for the best runningback in football, which opens up the game plan for a qb.
@@beazy3364Don’t Bring up the defense because if I recall correctly when Lamar Jackson MVP last year didn’t the number 1 defense
Josh's numbers were way better than the Lamar's last year. So it goes to show you it's not all just numbers
Allen’s numbers are literally orders of magnitude better than Jackson’s every other year of his career. It’s not even close.
Lose the stupid argument, if it were about numbers, Jackson would never have won an MVP. His numbers are decent, historically, first a 1970s QB.
Check your stats before responding kids
That man had 23 turnovers last season😂
23 turnovers and 10 wins 😂
@@TopTierHater and 40+ TDs.
They should just call it the QB award at this point..
Lifelong Bills fan and I think Derrick Henry should get MVP
I honestly don’t care if Lamar should be the favorite rn. What doesn’t make sense is how last year he won it over Allen. Like everyone is bringing up stats now but last year when Allen was had the better stats he wasn’t given the same treatment. My personal opinion is that they got it wrong last year and that Lamar is still the favorite so for
2:16 Listen I've been on comments here on this channel saying the 72 Miami Dolphins undefeated season will remain another 45yrs
Quick question for you. In your opinion, what is the difference between "the best player" and most valuable player? Isn't that one in the same? Love your content brother!
If Lamar and the ravens doesn’t win the afc north Lamar can forget mvp. Not to mention he has an actual offense with stars while the bills have Josh Allen. At this point Buffalo should be the destination for no name receivers trying to cash out on a big payday because Josh Allen (and I agree with skip bayless saying he has to be referred to by first and last name every time he’s mentioned) is making guys look great who otherwise would be special teamers
Im a Lamar guy and I think it's a close ass race right now. I think Lamar has a had a tougher schedule by a large margin. The Bills have had only 1 win against a team I would consider a contender. It also helps that his defense hasn't been the worst passing defense in the league for a while. Lamar has done enough to win 10/11 of his games. His only bad game has been against the Steelers which have one of the best defenses in the league. Josh Allen is playing great but to be fair, his schedule has been lightwork. His only accomplishment is beating the Chiefs. After this week he only has 1 more tough game against the Lions, if he continues to play at a high level and has a statement win against the Lions he'll be #1 unless Lamar Jackson, who has games against some tough teams has a run like last year.
Sure, if Tucker hits either one of those field goals last week Lamar is still in front. He leads Allen in every category except Allen has 3 more TD runs. Just give it time. Josh had a game last month where he completed 9 passes. People are so easily influenced by one week of action. Just like when 2 years ago before the season the Bills were declared Super Bowl favorites based upon that last quarter of action against the Chiefs in the playoffs. When it comes to anything Buffalo related, ya have to temper your expectations. Take it from a local.
You know what's funny? I thought Derrick Henry was WASHED and OLD before this season. All of a sudden he's the best RB we've ever seen. I wonder if it has to do with the threat of Lamar running and him running the read option and tearing defenses up. It's funny how people switch up.
1:30 How is josh allen absolute Number 1 in mvp race? He isnt top 5 in any stat. Not in tds, completion % he is 25th , passer rating he is not in the top 5. He also only played three teams above 500 and won 1 . While Lamar faced 7 Teams above 500 won atleat 5 of those , won h2h against the bills and is top 5 in almost every relevant qb category. Even burrow is playing better. Billa might get the 1 seed they end the season playing new, jet and new. And besides the lions only one other 500. Team
Josh Allen playing so good, Lamar is guaranteed to win the MVP.
9-30 and 35-10
@@tshepangmasemola8947 48.5% against the Steelers is pretty bad. And that was last week not over a month ago.
Lamar should never have won the MVP last year. CMC or Allen played way better and should have gone to one of them
Lamar’s been the clear MVP for like 9 straight weeks. But 1 bad game and now everyone got these hot takes about how it’s always been Allen😂
He’s had more than 1 bad game
Yep. It’s ridiculous. Lamar has him beat in almost every category. Also don’t forget last month Josh had a 9 completion game. 9
I don’t think any mvp had a game that bad
I just think it’s disingenuous to say Lamar’s MVP case took a huge hit while Josh’s rose when Lamar has been better than Josh, literally all season. He has Josh beat in every stat except rushing TD & INT. If we’re gonna nitpick with team records then that’s 100% fine but the H2H has to matter as well. (Although, it was a Derrick Henry game)
Lamar’s worst game he had 200 yards a TD & a pick
Josh Allen had the literal worst passing performance in like 40 years 9/30.
Lamar has had only 1 bad game and Josh has had atleast 3 average to “bad” games. The context behind the Steelers/Chiefs is fair take but nah, can’t say I think that’s a strong enough narrative. I also don’t like the “Josh means more to the Bills” this is the only year Josh hasn’t had a great weapon. Lamar JUST got a great weapon. We’ve seen Lamar do exactly what Josh is doing and then he gets a RB in Derrick Henry and people use it against him. Take both QB’s off their teams and both teams are picking top 10 in the draft next year. They’re equally as valuable to their teams.
Josh has led his squad to more wins and Lamar has lost more games. Josh is the reason they win but It’s also very fair to say Lamar ISNT the reason the ravens lose.
a DB even better?? Benford is the best DB in the league. Sorry the league and you don't recognize that.
I mean josh allen, no college offers coming out of hs. Went to wyoming. No one wanted him. Idj how you go from 0 to mvp in the nfl unoess you are special
Tbh We speaking way to soon off of one game . I know its big that Josh Allen Beat the Chiefs but Do you think they going to Superbowl
But I'll be hard pressed to think any chiefs fan really believe kc would stay unbeaten
I'm a fan Patrick mahomes and that offense is complete garbage, our LT AND CB2 and lack of pass rush ,
Is our 3 biggest weakness
And josh allen and bills exposed all 3
I’m sorry, but one play on 4th and 2 where players are afraid to tackle because of the soft league rules doesn’t make you the mvp. Allen’s numbers this year are mid, he’s only in the running because his name is josh allen. Burrow, lamar, goff all having better years. There is a reason this man got voted most overrated, he’s a great player, but come on
Yea this is very clear right now who is the MVP.
I like Patrick Mahomes as a quarterback but i said if there’s 1 quarterback you wanna argue who’s better than him it’s Josh Allen but this why I said Mahomes and Allen are the 2 quarterbacks in football because you see how Lamar Jackson Fans before use to say before oh he doesn’t have anybody now of all sudden he does have somebody that somebody is Derek Henry who you can argument is arguably the best running back in football and he still struggling you see how they change the narrative
Yeah Lamar's MVP case took a huge hit honestly while Allen's went through the roof last sunday
@ yea absolutely and it can swing the other way in a couple of weeks. I’m with you, I’m not big on MVPs especially when it’s become a QB award.
When the Rams won the Super Bowl, that year and a few others it could have easily and rightfully so went to Arron Donald.
People are putting too much stock in one game as usual….
@ one game? Hahahaha okay
Same sheet every year BILLS will lose in the playoffs. I’m numb to it after 39 years. Don’t even watch the NFL much anymore
Saquon Barkley
I think if they have the same record it goes to Lamar but the ravens have to win their division.
Goff and Lamar both have better teams around them lions & ravens would be 9-2 with Josh but the Bills wouldn't be 9-2 with Goff or Lamar.
The Math isn't matching, how many times has Josh got the 1 seed?
Lamars defense has been terrible! And his schedule is way tougher than Josh Allen's. Look at the defenses Lamar has had to face this year so far while also having a defense that lets anyone have their best game against them (except Josh Allen)
@@ogjujubeanPeople said Lamar didn’t have Weapons now he has Derek Henry and he still struggles what’s the problem
@@jakieresykes3644 Offensively he's doing perfectly fine? They're the #1 offense in the league. He's the #1 or #2 in EVERY passing category. He's #1 in Rushing for QBs. Where is HE struggling? He's played amazing this year and the offense is carrying this team. His defense has been terrible. I wouldn't say he's struggling at all.
@@jakieresykes3644 Lamar Jackson's weapons aren't anything crazy either. His WR room was considered one of if not THE worst WR room before the season started (According to many analysts like Nick Wright). He didn't have anywhere near as many weapons as his contemporaries for his entire career BUT YOU GIVE HIM A 30 YEAR OLD RUNNING BACK WHO EVERYONE SAID WAS WASHED. Now he for whatever reason has too many weapons. I like our offense and I think we have solid pieces but the revisionist history is hilarious. And please try to understand football is a team sport. Defense also matters, and when you're team allows 300+ passing yards a game. It's tough to win no matter how good your offense is (Bengals are a prime example). I think because of that, it puts our team in obvious pass situations and Lamar has showed the world he can pass with anyone. We've lost games against competent defenses because Lamar didn't score 30-40 points (except Steelers, Lamars only bad game imo) and our defense didn't do anything against offenses any solid team would stop.
1:54 hey man u ars everyday talking contradiction!
Yo silly logics goes against
the Fundamental objectives and the purpose of why they play the game.
I'm here in the comments trying to help you
:MAKE SENSE OF YO
NONSENSE "
MVP'S is completely all about stats and wins QB!
BUT u conveniently disregard QB wins & now QB stats
Patrick mahomes 1st season as stater Stats 5K, 50TD passing , next season wins SB
that off-season chiefs signs him to NFL biggest contract
But QB'S wins and stats doesn't fit yo narratives so it doesn't matter!
Bullshit! Lamar has better numbers, won their head to head and outplayed him, plays in a way harder division. Allen threw 9 for 31 this season in a game are you kidding me🤣🤣🤣🤣Allen will choke he’s a pick off machine. Lamar will win MVP once again
Just like Lamar who chokes every year in big games
@@jakieresykes3644false narrative. He wins big games all the time
@@nicklove3963 2-4 in the playoffs is winning big games