The man made 38 million in the NBA and 20 million overseas untaxed and untouched. Yeah he won. I watched those hawks he played on he could’ve became and all star at some point, he was ahead of his time he should’ve been playing today. He’d be worth 4 for 125 mill
He always took risk and I respected that...He was a McDonald's All America and decided to go to Stanford. I remember Dick Vitale mentioned during the McDonald's game that Josh was basically crazy for going to Stanford over other top schools. Now Josh using that Stanford education and transforming parts of California as a real estate developer.
Josh Childress was one of the first NBA players I've seen willingly leave the league to go play overseas at such a young age. It's commonplace now but as a 15 year old at the time I couldn't understand it but I respected his decision to do what was best for him.
@@TTJJCC I understand your point, but I'd argue that there's no such thing as a truly 'secure spot' in the NBA unless you have a max deal. Even then, teams can still make changes. With that in mind, I think it's more common than you think for players to consider overseas options, especially if they're not getting the playing time or opportunities they want in the NBA.
@@ohsosaucy1093 I see what you're saying. By a "secure spot," I mean someone that has a multi year contract and a spot in the rotation. Now, a fringe player on a one year small money deal? Those players are more likely to consider overseas deals.
A great player and great character, Childress is remembered fondly by Olympiacos fans. His main drawback was the inconsistent three point shot, and he was criticized for it, even in Europe. He had spectacular athleticism, a great defender that could guard almost all positions, and overall contributed in many aspects of the game.
Josh Childress really was eating and got lucky becouse of crazy olympiacos owner....dude got offer from olympiacos 3 year 20 million dollars free taxes,free house,in amazing city Athens....in NBA standarts his Olympiacos salary was about 15 millions dollars a year....(in NBA players pays taxes)
Yeah, everyone was puzzled about the move on the time, but it was undoubtedly the right move. It's the equivalent of over $45 million USD. Josh wasn't gonna be getting $15 mil a year in the league back then...especially when the rookie max was only around that figure (considering the taxes). He also had an NBA out after each year, so if the market/league wanted him to come back, he could go back. Hawks offered him 5 years for 33 million (basically 16 million post taxes). Olympiacos basically gave him 3 years for 45 million if you factor in taxes. I actually remember the contract dispute from that summer.
@@Ninety2boss You're missing what I'm saying. 3 years 20 overseas is 3 years 20 cash take home pay. In NBA, at 52.6 percent tax rate (once you hit THAT HIGH OF tax bracket).... in order to actually take home 20 million cash, you have to make around 45 million.
@@Ninety2boss Oh I feel you. The max pension in NBA is after 10 years of service. Josh has 8 years of service. He's two years short of the max pension (which is $215k a year...which is then taxed). He's probably getting 160k or so with 8 years of service (which can't be taken out til 62 years old or so anyways.) The balance of those two years he played in Greece wouldn't make up for 20 million in liquid cash IN HAND that one can invest, accrue interested on, or do whatever you want with. The 20 million cash he received is going to go much farther than 45-50k extra annually once you hit 62. Trust me, my brother works in the NBA, so I know all about the pension system.
Great vid. That was shocking when he went to Greece. I couldn't remember other young NBA players going overseas before that besides Danny Ferry (because he didn't want to play for the Clippers) and Bryon Shaw way back when.
I am from Greece so I remember him coming over - playing here is not so bad. Quite the opposite, its actually amazing. the Fans are amazing and EuroLeague has very good traditional teams. The salaries are less, but they still amount to millions. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Olympiacos, Panathinaikos, Partizan, Red Star, Milano, Bologna, CSKA Moscow, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Bayern. We have great teams in Europe.
Dominique Wilkins was past his prime when he went to Europe, but he was just one season removed from a 29ppg season, and had a couple of 19ppg seasons where he was a 6th man of the year contender. Even at that advanced age and with injuries, he offered teams more than Childress ever did. It was pretty notable, a decade before Childress.
Not a terrible move. He had already made great money in the NBA. So it was a tremendous opportunity financially. And at the same time RETURNED to the NBA and made even more money. So I would say a successful career. Maybe not stat wise but definitely financially. Fact is he's still living off the overseas money. So....🤷🏿
Josh Childress smart man 4going 2 Europe 2 get the bag i wish it wouldve worked out 4 him in the League but its all good cause he still had fruitful carreer
Do one for Patrick McCaw, drafted by GS in 2016 2nd round and Jerry West said teams will be sorry they didn’t take him. Been out the league since 2021.
McCaw is the definition of drafted into the right team and leaving for another at the right time. 3 NBA championships in such a short time on two different teams as a role player is pretty rare. 😅
Yoooo you know that's funny about that, I told him that yearssssssss ago when I met him 6 years ago, I was talking to him about the laundry mat he once owned..
Ngl bro I thought you had been did a feature on him. I always wanted to know what happened to him. He was the first dude I think I seen do a 360 in the league when I was younger
I think he was just a bad fit with the Suns… in the right situation, he could’ve had a role similar to Derozen; versatile scorer but not necessarily a 3 point shooter
I think he made the smart decision overall... Just listening to Gilbert arenas talk now I can understand what he means by the contracts being very suspicious when you're making agreements to it... At the end of the day he played in the NBA and made a lot of security for his family
DeJuan Summer played in the pro league in my country Dominican Republic this year and was trash, I could’ve saw why he didn’t make it far in the league and struggled overseas too
During the time he did no wrong. The league wasn't paying like that. Unless you were Kobe and some other super stars. And he was already coming off the bench. He probably seen it as a waste. If you get paid 20 million, house, car, and you get to start🤔no brainer. After 3 years you would never need to touch a court again. No stunted growth here..
Not playing his whole career in the NBA isn't really a waste of talent. He did play D1, then NBA and Euroleague professionally earning more than most will make in their lifetime. Most every hooper would accept that if they could
Will still be remembered as a pioneer, and business wise made a great move for the time.
"You can't go home again." - Thomas Wolfe
Josh made some million ns of $$$ dollars. That's what really counts at the end of the day.
The man made 38 million in the NBA and 20 million overseas untaxed and untouched. Yeah he won. I watched those hawks he played on he could’ve became and all star at some point, he was ahead of his time he should’ve been playing today. He’d be worth 4 for 125 mill
He always took risk and I respected that...He was a McDonald's All America and decided to go to Stanford. I remember Dick Vitale mentioned during the McDonald's game that Josh was basically crazy for going to Stanford over other top schools. Now Josh using that Stanford education and transforming parts of California as a real estate developer.
Exactly
My ex wife mom was his teacher in high school! Very humble guy!
Josh Childress was one of the first NBA players I've seen willingly leave the league to go play overseas at such a young age. It's commonplace now but as a 15 year old at the time I couldn't understand it but I respected his decision to do what was best for him.
Agree
It's still not very common for a young player that has a secure spot in the league to willingly go overseas.
@@TTJJCC I understand your point, but I'd argue that there's no such thing as a truly 'secure spot' in the NBA unless you have a max deal. Even then, teams can still make changes. With that in mind, I think it's more common than you think for players to consider overseas options, especially if they're not getting the playing time or opportunities they want in the NBA.
@@ohsosaucy1093 I see what you're saying. By a "secure spot," I mean someone that has a multi year contract and a spot in the rotation. Now, a fringe player on a one year small money deal? Those players are more likely to consider overseas deals.
A great player and great character, Childress is remembered fondly by Olympiacos fans. His main drawback was the inconsistent three point shot, and he was criticized for it, even in Europe. He had spectacular athleticism, a great defender that could guard almost all positions, and overall contributed in many aspects of the game.
About his 3 point jumper being inconsistent, it was & him not improving it was his way of saying you can forget it
LaBradford Smith (L'ville
Scoonie Penn (OSU-BC)
Ricky Price (Duke)
Damon Flint Cincy
Josh Childress really was eating and got lucky becouse of crazy olympiacos owner....dude got offer from olympiacos 3 year 20 million dollars free taxes,free house,in amazing city Athens....in NBA standarts his Olympiacos salary was about 15 millions dollars a year....(in NBA players pays taxes)
Ya honestly I don’t see this as stunted growth I see this as smart buisness move. He got few years in NBA the bounced. I would did same.
He was the cover athlete for college hoops 2k5 or 2k4. Remember him on the hawks too. Always wondered what happened to him smh
Yeah it was 2k5. Those college hoops games are throwbacks
@@Powerhouse1 I still break out the 360 from time to time for some 2K8. Those Dynasty modes were as deep as anything in a sports game today.
Yeah, everyone was puzzled about the move on the time, but it was undoubtedly the right move. It's the equivalent of over $45 million USD. Josh wasn't gonna be getting $15 mil a year in the league back then...especially when the rookie max was only around that figure (considering the taxes).
He also had an NBA out after each year, so if the market/league wanted him to come back, he could go back.
Hawks offered him 5 years for 33 million (basically 16 million post taxes). Olympiacos basically gave him 3 years for 45 million if you factor in taxes. I actually remember the contract dispute from that summer.
Olympics gave him 3-20. Not 45. I would have taken the hawks deal. You get your pension and you get to stay at home.
@@Ninety2boss You're missing what I'm saying. 3 years 20 overseas is 3 years 20 cash take home pay.
In NBA, at 52.6 percent tax rate (once you hit THAT HIGH OF tax bracket).... in order to actually take home 20 million cash, you have to make around 45 million.
@@rbballfan you don’t get a pension in Europe though. So you missed what I said…
Are you over glorifying the pension. Do we even know how much they get after a certain age? @@Ninety2boss
@@Ninety2boss Oh I feel you. The max pension in NBA is after 10 years of service. Josh has 8 years of service. He's two years short of the max pension (which is $215k a year...which is then taxed). He's probably getting 160k or so with 8 years of service (which can't be taken out til 62 years old or so anyways.)
The balance of those two years he played in Greece wouldn't make up for 20 million in liquid cash IN HAND that one can invest, accrue interested on, or do whatever you want with. The 20 million cash he received is going to go much farther than 45-50k extra annually once you hit 62.
Trust me, my brother works in the NBA, so I know all about the pension system.
This was as unexpected as it was excellent. Good job.
Great vid. That was shocking when he went to Greece. I couldn't remember other young NBA players going overseas before that besides Danny Ferry (because he didn't want to play for the Clippers) and Bryon Shaw way back when.
He got blackballed for leaving the league like that
Can't dismiss that possibility.
Buddy got 20ms how the hell he ain’t win it’s just basketball yall
Right! He’s set for life
Y'all thinkin bout money we thinkin bout the game bro should have stayed in the nba and let his game grow and evolve along side the league
@@johndavis9321right. The difference between someone like Jordan to James
@@johndavis9321at the end of the day. Everything is about money my friend. Dont be that guy.
I am from Greece so I remember him coming over - playing here is not so bad. Quite the opposite, its actually amazing. the Fans are amazing and EuroLeague has very good traditional teams. The salaries are less, but they still amount to millions.
Real Madrid, Barcelona, Olympiacos, Panathinaikos, Partizan, Red Star, Milano, Bologna, CSKA Moscow, Maccabi Tel Aviv, Bayern.
We have great teams in Europe.
What a coincidence that I was reading an article about Euroleague salaries when I got the notification for this video.
Coincidence 🤔?
Thanks for this. I literally have been wondering about him the past few days.
Do one on T.J. Ford dude was fast af with the ball and was nice in the league for the Raptors a few yrs.
New subscriber here. Great original content. Quick tip: Don't give away so much in the intro. Keep up the good work 👍
Dominique Wilkins was past his prime when he went to Europe, but he was just one season removed from a 29ppg season, and had a couple of 19ppg seasons where he was a 6th man of the year contender. Even at that advanced age and with injuries, he offered teams more than Childress ever did. It was pretty notable, a decade before Childress.
You have to do a Stunted Growth story on Jonathan Hargett from Richmond, VA. Dude was cold.
They don't know nothing about Jonathan hargett an I'll throw a name too, Daniel Horton from Michigan.
Ike diogu
Ike Austin since we're picking ASU guys😅
Captain Naija
I remember seeing him play in a HS , it was a tournament. Tyson Chandler and The Craven brothers played too
Random. Ben Gordon was a solid hooper
got mental issues though. sad really. I am a Bulls fan so I really liked the guy
I'd love to see one of these on Yinka Dare
That wld def b a good one right there 😊
Have you ever thought about including a 5 minute interview with these players for the end of these videos? 🤔
Do CJ Fair (from the 2012 Syracuse team) next!
Can you do one on Josh Smith? Atl legend but his bad decisions ended his career
It's our boy Stunted Growth 😲😁
I loved playing him on the hawks in 2k
Vernon Carey, number five recruiting the country, barely 3 seasons in the NBA as a two-way guy
Care to do Von Wafer or Carl Landry?
I remember him!
I use to like trading & playing him in NBA Live 2005 on ps2.
The good old days..
Not a terrible move. He had already made great money in the NBA. So it was a tremendous opportunity financially. And at the same time RETURNED to the NBA and made even more money. So I would say a successful career. Maybe not stat wise but definitely financially. Fact is he's still living off the overseas money. So....🤷🏿
Josh Childress smart man 4going 2 Europe 2 get the bag i wish it wouldve worked out 4 him in the League but its all good cause he still had fruitful carreer
Yooo I remember him choosing to go over seas. Seemed like a good idea at the time
Do one for Patrick McCaw, drafted by GS in 2016 2nd round and Jerry West said teams will be sorry they didn’t take him. Been out the league since 2021.
3 NBA championship rings, and 1 G League championship as well.
McCaw is the definition of drafted into the right team and leaving for another at the right time. 3 NBA championships in such a short time on two different teams as a role player is pretty rare. 😅
To me I thought we was the next grant hill.
Yoooo you know that's funny about that, I told him that yearssssssss ago when I met him 6 years ago, I was talking to him about the laundry mat he once owned..
Josh Childress Jr. IYKYK
Ngl bro I thought you had been did a feature on him. I always wanted to know what happened to him. He was the first dude I think I seen do a 360 in the league when I was younger
Every time I watch Childress I never seen him miss a free throw bra was automatic 😂😂💯
Hi pls would you do a video about Darko Milicic?
I think he was just a bad fit with the Suns… in the right situation, he could’ve had a role similar to Derozen; versatile scorer but not necessarily a 3 point shooter
good video but genuine question: why did you hate joseph forte so much? seen yo video on it and it was a way different energy than all yo other videos
Is there any way we can hear about Skal Labessier if that's how you spell his name?.
I'm pretty sure he did one on Skal. Check the page.
@@T-Add Yeah I just saw it...Thanks for letting me know
Hey should have been on here finally long time ago
Can you do a vid on Rashad Vaughn and Justin Patton?
I think he made the smart decision overall... Just listening to Gilbert arenas talk now I can understand what he means by the contracts being very suspicious when you're making agreements to it... At the end of the day he played in the NBA and made a lot of security for his family
He had a good career, not great. He still played professionally and is financially secured
NBL is Australian League NOT Euro
League didn’t want guys bouncing back and forth… game within the game
Kris Joseph from Syracuse or DaJuan Summers from Georgetown.
DeJuan Summer played in the pro league in my country Dominican Republic this year and was trash, I could’ve saw why he didn’t make it far in the league and struggled overseas too
@ that’s sad. He had a NBA frame and build I thought it JT3 at Georgetown that was holding him back.
Do a video on why earl manigult never made it to the nba
I called this advance and courage growth.
It’s crazy the first thing I said when I seen his name he can’t SHOOT . Career done 🤦🏿♂️
Flight always says Jarret allen looks like this guy
Mayfair HS legend
Do the 94-95 magic
Smart move the finances after retirement will always trump
$20 million with free tax and free housing!! I don’t blame him! 🤷🏿♂️
It's better in Europe overall, food is better
I thought this was Stephen A Smith.
Idk sounds like bro literally got his moneys worth for his talent at the time.
Mind too
Wasup w the video quality looking like it’s from the 70s when showing Josh’s highlights w the cardinals
lol had the same thought
Can you do McDonald's All American, Austin Freeman Georgetown
kawhi leonard 1.0
The most unstable CPU in 2K10 😂straight bucket
During the time he did no wrong. The league wasn't paying like that. Unless you were Kobe and some other super stars. And he was already coming off the bench. He probably seen it as a waste. If you get paid 20 million, house, car, and you get to start🤔no brainer. After 3 years you would never need to touch a court again. No stunted growth here..
Interesting channel but ya gotta clean up the video quality.
Thats his style with the music
Bt if he can't shoot it it would probably ended the same if he stayed with the hawks
Wasted Talent for Real. 🤦🏿♂️. 🏀
Maybe not a great player,but was good. He still played professional basketball and is financially secure
Not playing his whole career in the NBA isn't really a waste of talent. He did play D1, then NBA and Euroleague professionally earning more than most will make in their lifetime.
Most every hooper would accept that if they could
Can’t say that
@@kw0017exactly! Folks dont understand what waste mean. Thats a great career/life
He played basketball he didn’t let basketball play him bro is rich and a successful CEO now wit a long pro career
He is on Xbox college basketball game
Bro move on this guys played in the 1990s
Wasn't it 50 million thr Greeks gave him . I would leave to n9 taxes