The driver's side jumped a few teeth and was no longer aligned, so that made the ride much worse. Any misalignment will cause big bumps and even more stress on the chain.
@@AlienLivesMatter Uh no. It's front wheel drive. So how would you steer?😂I've tried it. I welded my front axle solid. So when you try to steer ,the car just keeps going straight. It's so absolutely shitty to drive around like that unless you're going straight the whole time. Steering will also eventually break one of the axles too which actually fixes the steering problem but also puts you back to one wheel peel again. But at least it won't keep switching sides like an unmodified open diff does. I drove around with my passengers side axle removed with a cutting torch for a long time before I finally fixed it right and bought a torsen differential for it and a new passenger side axle of course lol. Oops
It's because there need to replace the shock with a solid bar, when it would switch to the rear wheel it would put more leverage on the suspension compressing it more causing the bounce
@@IllegallyAcquiredKIA bro your username cracks me up, especially since they just issued that recall because you can hijack some models of Kia with nothing more than a USB drive lol.
If you made each 'half' a little bit larger than half so they slightly overlapped on every rotation it would most likely be a lot smoother, but you'd need 4 wheels to butcher for that.
If they stuck with the tyres being held out by rebar they could get away with just making the angular circumference of the rebar section slightly more than 180° but keep just half a wheel. Would still need 4 tyres though.
Try 3 halves on both sides,clock them so that one of them is always on the road. And on driven wheels. I think when one loses traction the second or the third would have traction,and keep you going.
One thing that they couldn't do obviously is to have inflated tires. People largely underestimate the cushionning impact of tyres. This would have made the transition between the halves much smoother.... but also more bouncy.
I agree, the current setup has no cushioning effect since the rebar cage is against the backside of the tread. They may need to refine the design with a partial inner tube or something similar.
You should try it with 3 wheel halves on each side 120 degrees of roataoon from each other. Make the axle driven wheel the center wheel with the wheels able to pivot slightly around the center wheel.
I think you should have a do-over on this, use about 5/8 of a wheel for each one and put this on a rear wheel drive car. The leading edge of each halfwheel could be like a giant paddle for digging out of soft snowing or soft mud.
The axis of rotation of the rear wheels must be perfectly flat to the surface of the road to avoid bumps. Doesn't help the front of the car sagged down on the springs. Im guessing you had the chassis level on the lift while welding then set it down and the front end compressed.
This is quite an impressive innovation! We've all been eagerly awaiting a more modern approach to locomotion than what is allowed by the archaic design of round wheels and tires. Thanks to Garage 54, we can all look forward to this much more efficient and effective design on all future vehicles. Simpler and smoother! This long-awaited paradigm shift in auto technology will revolutionize the industry and significantly improve the driving experience. Obviously this will also result in considerably lower repair and maintenance costs! Quite the game-changer!
I'm dying form laughter. I have NEVER laughed so hard at a car Love you guys, I hope to be able to buy some merch soon; money's tight for the proletariat
admit it you would be laughing more if you saw a car driving around on the road with you with wheels like that you have road happiness from seeing it🤣🤣🤣
should have had spring shock rear suspension not rigid suspension would have been smoother and the tires would have stayed on the road surface still fun though
Air in the tire half and a rear suspension would have helped. Rebar and direct connection to the frame is like a hard tail bike with metal tire going down a dirt trail.
Good video, but maybe try some chain tensioners, The wheels were binding and would stop for a brief period during your test run. The binding of the chains can also cause the tires to go out of sync with each other causing a slight gallop.
I almost think if this were rear wheel drive it would somewhat help with traction due to the alternating nature of contact and thus be less likely to stick in certain areas in such weather but not all that practical either lol.
They made the two halves level when the body of the car was level. When they put the car down the front suspension compressed tipping the body forward and lifting the rear half up. Of course that would be a rough transition when the rear half is higher than the front half.
Each half wheel has to be a little more than half circumference and need to add a chain tensioner. Independent suspension would give it the last touch..
Also the bicycle guy cut his at the edge of hub not middle. Your timing is also off for the 2 halves because on the bike the rear at 6-12 o'clock the front is at about 4:30-10:30 o'clock. I'm sure if you play with tire clocking you can get you yours to ride smoother.
You actually would need a welded diff so you always maintain left and right side halves aligned to each others! That would solve most of your ride harshness, but you’d still have a difficult ride because of no rear suspensions and rim structure
good your suspension was solid or it would be worse. a glass smooth surface helps so they are always on the same level as they pass off back and forth. it'll never work well.
What about if you connect with a shaft to keep both sides in sync? Not having air in the tires made it very rigid, too bad you could not find a way to safely add air to tires to give some cushion.
If you want to smooth out your bumpy ride??? Like old steam Locomotives in order to make their piston and rod connections work in a smooth manner, the wheels needed to be what's called "Quartered" this way the one is slightly ahead of the other and you don't have a dead spot or open space in your case. Basically it's applying overlap like a camshaft utilizes. Hopefully this helps your experiment?
Hey from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA 👋 That laser you used to cut the wheel, that’s pretty neat idea. Any links to where these can be bought? Thank Youb
Well you welded it solid to the body.. and filled the tyre with steel frame.. no wonder it's clunky. A small overlap on the "halves" could make it matter like you said at the end.
There needs to be a 3rd half wheel in the front of the original back tire. And it needs to touch the ground at the same time as the new rear half tire. That would stop the shaking. Maybe it would fix the weight distribution problem.
Ookay, while that was entertaining, you have effectively created the first stage in putting tracks on the rear of that car. While the currently available track conversion kits would be less bumpy, what you could create with your existing setup would be just as fun (if a little bumpy)
You shoulda built it a rear wheel drive. This set up makes no sense especially in the sense of traction but still pretty cool and interesting. Great video lads 👍
even with over half the lack of suspension combined with the rake is going to cause issues because the rear wheels are further from the ground than the middle ones
Cool video I've seen it done before. Definitely oversized (just over half) definitely makes a difference from others I've seen.still very good I love it though. Not long found your channel so I will be checking out the ones I've missed for sure.
You could have made half tubes for the tires and capped the ends of each tire off so that it you still had the forgiveness of air in the tires to smooth the transition from one half to the other
Perhaps using some fairly stiff urethane foam inside the tire to support it rather than rebar. Like a puncture proof wheelbarrow tire. Then it would have some cushioning.
-"How will a car drive on two separate wheel halves?" - it will drive just as bad as the last 'half-wheel' bike 'BIKES and BEARDS' made. heheh . maybe car will be better, the cycle problem was from the trailing arm worked like a lever, when the load went from the pivot point to a closer wheel , then to a farther wheel, the ' mechanical advantage changed, causing the rear suspension to jump up and down. i would say try and center mount (pivot point) the 'bar' that has a half wheel on either side, so the forces are equal. lets see what you end up doing.... :) --P,S,. - was so rough because there was no suspension. but allowing for suspension would have made it much harder to slap together though. so, was still a fun/interesting vid guys! keep it up! 👍
Well the problem isn’t that you didn’t exactly half the wheels. The driver side did jump teeth. But also, tires are for more than traction, they hold air because the flexible air filled tires serve a suspension function in absorbing impacts from road imperfections. So I don’t know how but had they been air filled, and stayed in time or yes slightly kore than half a wheel maybe 3/5 of a wheel each the ride would’ve been better but if they could hold air the ride would’ve been better too!
You need tires that don’t have rebar and you need tension on those chains to align them correctly. You need a solid tire and perfect alignment otherwise this won’t work.
Very cool project!!! All you complaining and/or hoping to see something different need to stfu or be grateful you can even watch this. Love this channel! Thanks Garage 54 for all you do!!
I agree with the oversized cuts would make it a lot smoother I would like to see what would happen if you made a super long stroke where are the connecting rods are twice as long would that make the motor runs smoother
You feel the transition mostly because of the material lost by cutting the wheel/tire. Should have used 4 sets and cut them off center by a blades width, then used both large halves as currently they aren't spherical halves. Also.. obviously solid tire and suspension makes the ride terrible.. but the actual problem is blade loss..
Why all people trying to reproduce the original experiment fail to see the two "halves" are actually more than 50% of a wheel each, being cut from 2 wheels. It is very easy to see that on the original bike video and is what gives support when the two wheel edges try to hit the floor at the same time which doesn't happen with the bike
Makes sense it would be extra bumpy. there’s no springiness from air in the tires. The contact to the ground is constantly changing. every bump will be exaggerated.
I know why its so rough. The rear 2 need to be floating but fixed together. The angle of the car is making it ride on the front half and when the back half comes around its a bit higher in the air so it drops onto it and then when the front half comes back around it has to pick up the whole car to carry on. Also the fact some jumped the teeth. The bike is a full fixed suspension including the front so its riding perfectly even unlike the car. Also they more than likely had hard rubber filled tires and not steel filled.
I think if you do 2/3rds of a wheel. It should work better. So you don’t have the fraction of a second with no wheel on the road. To keep the height the same while spinning
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They literally re-invented the wheel, now it costs twice as much to make and is probably more dangerous to operate. That's why I love this channel.
now force people to buy this trash it solves a problem and makes a million more so its genius
No they literally (🙄) got the idea from a bike.
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I like how their neighbors are used so used to this madness, they just come outside and stay there watching like its something that happens everyday.
This guy has been taking his time to do garage 54 translations into English for years. Can we take a moment to say thanks?
"An elegant solution for problems that did not existed until now" is the motto of this channel and this always make me smile! thanks guys
“that did not existed”
The driver's side jumped a few teeth and was no longer aligned, so that made the ride much worse. Any misalignment will cause big bumps and even more stress on the chain.
Yeah, I think he needed something to brace the ends of the shafts - looks like there was too much flex there.
Needs a locked differential ha
I was expecting the chains to snap any moment, honestly. Not sure how long they would have lasted but I'm surprised they just held that much.
@@AlienLivesMatter Uh no. It's front wheel drive. So how would you steer?😂I've tried it. I welded my front axle solid. So when you try to steer ,the car just keeps going straight. It's so absolutely shitty to drive around like that unless you're going straight the whole time. Steering will also eventually break one of the axles too which actually fixes the steering problem but also puts you back to one wheel peel again. But at least it won't keep switching sides like an unmodified open diff does. I drove around with my passengers side axle removed with a cutting torch for a long time before I finally fixed it right and bought a torsen differential for it and a new passenger side axle of course lol. Oops
@@AlienLivesMatterUh, they're freewheeling.
Beards and Bikes guys did the same thing with a motorcycle a few weeks back. the results were hilarious
Yeah they did like 45mph and it was hilarious.
Yo, I was thinking the same thing, a bicycle, motorcycle, now a car, braille has to do a skateboard one now lmao
Seen that I can confirm it was hilarious
It's because there need to replace the shock with a solid bar, when it would switch to the rear wheel it would put more leverage on the suspension compressing it more causing the bounce
@@IllegallyAcquiredKIA bro your username cracks me up, especially since they just issued that recall because you can hijack some models of Kia with nothing more than a USB drive lol.
Would be very interesting to try that on rwd. It should have pretty good effect on grip in snow.
That's the only way I can justify this.
@@colinstu 7:00 No its not. If you watch closely. Only the front wheels have wheel spin when accelerate hard. This is an FWD car
@@colinstu are the driveshafts only in your imagination then 😂
Definitely a fwd car there is no drive shaft
Abosolutely
If you made each 'half' a little bit larger than half so they slightly overlapped on every rotation it would most likely be a lot smoother, but you'd need 4 wheels to butcher for that.
It would also help if both sides were synced up
Задумка была сделать из одного колеса именно. То что вы говорите это конечно бесспорно
Like old mate says oversize wheel sections to overlap and go rear wheel drive
If they stuck with the tyres being held out by rebar they could get away with just making the angular circumference of the rebar section slightly more than 180° but keep just half a wheel.
Would still need 4 tyres though.
Try 3 halves on both sides,clock them so that one of them is always on the road. And on driven wheels. I think when one loses traction the second or the third would have traction,and keep you going.
Or just 2 with each one being 2/3 of a wheel.
Saw a guy do it with a motorcycle recently, using two. On the rear. Waiting to see both front and back wheels.
you will need a welded rear axle so that both sides stay timed the right way
@@tinknal6449 I was thinking this exact same thing. Make each "half" a little bit bigger, so that there's always an overlap between the two axles
@@bonniscootor Exactly. Even a half inch more each "half". And some soft suspension to keep it planted
Very Interesting. I was really hoping to see how it was going to work on a RWD car, but it was still interesting to watch on a samara
In Russia it's called Lada Sputnik :)
The creativity of these guys is awesome! I love them!
Beard and bikes did it a few weeks ago
One thing that they couldn't do obviously is to have inflated tires. People largely underestimate the cushionning impact of tyres. This would have made the transition between the halves much smoother.... but also more bouncy.
I agree, the current setup has no cushioning effect since the rebar cage is against the backside of the tread. They may need to refine the design with a partial inner tube or something similar.
You should try it with 3 wheel halves on each side 120 degrees of roataoon from each other. Make the axle driven wheel the center wheel with the wheels able to pivot slightly around the center wheel.
I was about to comment "make them slightly more than half" - I would love to see it on a suspension too! Haha
I think you should have a do-over on this, use about 5/8 of a wheel for each one and put this on a rear wheel drive car. The leading edge of each halfwheel could be like a giant paddle for digging out of soft snowing or soft mud.
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From bicycle to motorcycle to rollerblade now this. Amazing.
The axis of rotation of the rear wheels must be perfectly flat to the surface of the road to avoid bumps. Doesn't help the front of the car sagged down on the springs. Im guessing you had the chassis level on the lift while welding then set it down and the front end compressed.
you need to try this again with independent suspensions for each half wheels and a rear drive shaft. The try off-roading, it should be good.
Incredible work guys, you always amaze me
This is quite an impressive innovation! We've all been eagerly awaiting a more modern approach to locomotion than what is allowed by the archaic design of round wheels and tires. Thanks to Garage 54, we can all look forward to this much more efficient and effective design on all future vehicles. Simpler and smoother! This long-awaited paradigm shift in auto technology will revolutionize the industry and significantly improve the driving experience. Obviously this will also result in considerably lower repair and maintenance costs! Quite the game-changer!
I'm dying form laughter. I have NEVER laughed so hard at a car
Love you guys, I hope to be able to buy some merch soon; money's tight for the proletariat
admit it you would be laughing more if you saw a car driving around on the road with you with wheels like that you have road happiness from seeing it🤣🤣🤣
Awesome experiment and video. That looked like a lot of fun. Thank you guys for all the awesome content.❤️❤️
@Garage54ENG. I'm on to you filthy scammers. Me and my friends are coming for you.
Anyone else want to see them use all of their creations on the same vehicle at the same time? 😂
should have had spring shock rear suspension not rigid suspension
would have been smoother and the tires would have stayed on the road surface
still fun though
Haha, the garage54's take on the 2 1/2 wheels!
I suppose using foam or no flat tires may give a better ride than a rebar tire frame, just gotta adhere them to the wheel and rim with something.
Air in the tire half and a rear suspension would have helped. Rebar and direct connection to the frame is like a hard tail bike with metal tire going down a dirt trail.
this was a lot of fun and if u had dampening and the tires had some over lap would make it smoother. as always god work putting this together. kudos.
I would love to see this concept with complete tires and having a 4 x 6 Lada
That rebar adds a whole new meaning to run flats!
Good video, but maybe try some chain tensioners, The wheels were binding and would stop for a brief period during your test run. The binding of the chains can also cause the tires to go out of sync with each other causing a slight gallop.
I almost think if this were rear wheel drive it would somewhat help with traction due to the alternating nature of contact and thus be less likely to stick in certain areas in such weather but not all that practical either lol.
6:45 didn't you weld the suspension to the frame?
And have iron coated with rubber wheels
Seeing this gives me the idea for a monster that runs around by flailing 4 arms in circles
Different meaning to 'Split Rim' - Lol you guys are nuts. Love it
You guys continue to surprise me and amaze me in every video!
imagine driving down the street and you see a car doing that. you would be like what the hell happened there🤣🤣🤣
They made the two halves level when the body of the car was level. When they put the car down the front suspension compressed tipping the body forward and lifting the rear half up. Of course that would be a rough transition when the rear half is higher than the front half.
Loving the traction series!
Each half wheel has to be a little more than half circumference and need to add a chain tensioner. Independent suspension would give it the last touch..
Bikes and beards just tried this on a motorcycle. He is not the only one. Popular project on youtube. Fun to do, when everyone is watching.
This is a great concept for deep snow no joke!
Also the bicycle guy cut his at the edge of hub not middle. Your timing is also off for the 2 halves because on the bike the rear at 6-12 o'clock the front is at about 4:30-10:30 o'clock. I'm sure if you play with tire clocking you can get you yours to ride smoother.
You actually would need a welded diff so you always maintain left and right side halves aligned to each others!
That would solve most of your ride harshness, but you’d still have a difficult ride because of no rear suspensions and rim structure
The difference appears to be where the power comes from. If the magic wheels where being driven rather than dragging then that would be interesting.
You guys are absolute madmen. Keep up the good work.
good your suspension was solid or it would be worse.
a glass smooth surface helps so they are always on the same level as they pass off back and forth.
it'll never work well.
Yeah, it must be solid.
What about if you connect with a shaft to keep both sides in sync? Not having air in the tires made it very rigid, too bad you could not find a way to safely add air to tires to give some cushion.
If you want to smooth out your bumpy ride??? Like old steam Locomotives in order to make their piston and rod connections work in a smooth manner, the wheels needed to be what's called "Quartered" this way the one is slightly ahead of the other and you don't have a dead spot or open space in your case. Basically it's applying overlap like a camshaft utilizes. Hopefully this helps your experiment?
Do the same setup to a rearwheel drive car it won't get stuck much
Add some suspensions in the middle, I think it might be going smoothly then
Hey from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA 👋
That laser you used to cut the wheel, that’s pretty neat idea. Any links to where these can be bought? Thank Youb
Well you welded it solid to the body.. and filled the tyre with steel frame.. no wonder it's clunky.
A small overlap on the "halves" could make it matter like you said at the end.
There needs to be a 3rd half wheel in the front of the original back tire. And it needs to touch the ground at the same time as the new rear half tire. That would stop the shaking. Maybe it would fix the weight distribution problem.
Interesting experiment, well done. Thanks for the crazy videos.
rear needs a welded diff?
Ookay, while that was entertaining, you have effectively created the first stage in putting tracks on the rear of that car. While the currently available track conversion kits would be less bumpy, what you could create with your existing setup would be just as fun (if a little bumpy)
I always can come back here for more Crazy Ivan shenanigans!
I'd like to see this with two full wheels and proper suspension. with such a light car I bet it would give great traction.
Meshed gears would probably keep the timing better.
You shoulda built it a rear wheel drive. This set up makes no sense especially in the sense of traction but still pretty cool and interesting. Great video lads 👍
55/45 ratio and struts on rear tag axel then flex seal the tire ends to hold air as well to make for a smooth ride
This is a certified Jobani Vrot classic.
even with over half the lack of suspension combined with the rake is going to cause issues because the rear wheels are further from the ground than the middle ones
Cool video I've seen it done before.
Definitely oversized (just over half) definitely makes a difference from others I've seen.still very good I love it though.
Not long found your channel so I will be checking out the ones I've missed for sure.
You could have made half tubes for the tires and capped the ends of each tire off so that it you still had the forgiveness of air in the tires to smooth the transition from one half to the other
Perhaps using some fairly stiff urethane foam inside the tire to support it rather than rebar. Like a puncture proof wheelbarrow tire. Then it would have some cushioning.
Orz they could go with a dink style tire where there is effectively no sidewall.
That is the weirdest wheel experiment you have ever done it looked so strange
All the other workers in the alley: "You know Vlad will be coming through, I wouldn't park there. "
Massage me, what friggin idiots.
-"How will a car drive on two separate wheel halves?" - it will drive just as bad as the last 'half-wheel' bike 'BIKES and BEARDS' made. heheh . maybe car will be better, the cycle problem was from the trailing arm worked like a lever, when the load went from the pivot point to a closer wheel , then to a farther wheel, the ' mechanical advantage changed, causing the rear suspension to jump up and down. i would say try and center mount (pivot point) the 'bar' that has a half wheel on either side, so the forces are equal. lets see what you end up doing.... :) --P,S,. - was so rough because there was no suspension. but allowing for suspension would have made it much harder to slap together though. so, was still a fun/interesting vid guys! keep it up! 👍
Well the problem isn’t that you didn’t exactly half the wheels. The driver side did jump teeth. But also, tires are for more than traction, they hold air because the flexible air filled tires serve a suspension function in absorbing impacts from road imperfections. So I don’t know how but had they been air filled, and stayed in time or yes slightly kore than half a wheel maybe 3/5 of a wheel each the ride would’ve been better but if they could hold air the ride would’ve been better too!
You should try doing it with the halves together like truck wheels ❤️💛💚👍
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i really wanna see a 4x4 traction system with 2 bars bethween front and rear wheels like the old locomotives had
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Omg! Cammed split rims! Where they separate and close when needed
Might be smoother with strut suspension on the secondary half wheel
Both sides need to be in sink so it's even on both sides of the car
this shit is so crazy and that's why i love it
You need tires that don’t have rebar and you need tension on those chains to align them correctly.
You need a solid tire and perfect alignment otherwise this won’t work.
Very cool project!!!
All you complaining and/or hoping to see something different need to stfu or be grateful you can even watch this.
Love this channel! Thanks Garage 54 for all you do!!
Man I want to see this guy's customers that bring in stuff to fix and his solutions.
thats awesome lol you always aim to entertain. was fun watching
I agree with the oversized cuts would make it a lot smoother I would like to see what would happen if you made a super long stroke where are the connecting rods are twice as long would that make the motor runs smoother
Another reason the ride is so rough is because there's no air in the tires and no suspension.
The sound reminds me of a train over the tracks 😂
Should try welding the differential would probably help
You feel the transition mostly because of the material lost by cutting the wheel/tire. Should have used 4 sets and cut them off center by a blades width, then used both large halves as currently they aren't spherical halves. Also.. obviously solid tire and suspension makes the ride terrible.. but the actual problem is blade loss..
I am curious if the half wheels would help with traction/ grip, and braking in snow
Why all people trying to reproduce the original experiment fail to see the two "halves" are actually more than 50% of a wheel each, being cut from 2 wheels. It is very easy to see that on the original bike video and is what gives support when the two wheel edges try to hit the floor at the same time which doesn't happen with the bike
It should work more smoothly if you used slight more than half a tire each. There needs to be a small overlap.
Good job fellas!!!!
I'd like to see you try it again only put the wheels on a rear drive vehicle and see how well it goes through the snow and such.
I'd like to see this with a rear wheel drive.
Makes sense it would be extra bumpy. there’s no springiness from air in the tires. The contact to the ground is constantly changing. every bump will be exaggerated.
I'm thinkin' if the paired halves were on drive wheels, this could make a sort of scoop-driven vehicle for deep snow...
A bumpy ride ! LOL
Put shock absorbers on the last two rimming mount because you had axles fixed solid to the body that why it was uncomfortable
The wheels need to be angled so they both touch the ground at the same level. The front half pushes the car up, the back drops it down.
I know why its so rough. The rear 2 need to be floating but fixed together. The angle of the car is making it ride on the front half and when the back half comes around its a bit higher in the air so it drops onto it and then when the front half comes back around it has to pick up the whole car to carry on. Also the fact some jumped the teeth. The bike is a full fixed suspension including the front so its riding perfectly even unlike the car. Also they more than likely had hard rubber filled tires and not steel filled.
I think if you do 2/3rds of a wheel. It should work better. So you don’t have the fraction of a second with no wheel on the road. To keep the height the same while spinning
Идея была что из одного целого колеса сделать.