He may have been the only person in her life that didn't hurt her or try to profit off of her; he just wanted to take care of her and genuinely care for her.
James Dougherty seemed like a genuine, caring man = DATED Marilyn, respected her, respected himself, respected his community & mankind (police officer). I'm so glad I watched this interview.
Love how he emphasised she was a GOOD person. There's no doubt that this woman was rarest of the rare, she had an inner light that just glowed . We were very lucky to have this Goddess in our mist.
She was a human being like the rest of us. We're all flawed. Goddesses don't cheat on their husbands. Marilyn did cheat on Arthur miller apparently. I am a fan, but she was flawed, like all of us
@@normanrobson8654 she cheated on Arthur Miller after he emotionally abused her and stripped her of her self confidence. He did his best to let he know he felt she was stupid and was an embarrassment in front of his intellectual friends. So, perhaps the relationship was over by the time she cheated on that misogynist
Not just to be a sexy Hollywood starlet! At that time if a woman wanted a job as a secretary, nurse, teacher, etc. she was asked if she planned to get married. If she was married she would be questioned closely about plans for pregnancy. It was legal and just fine to fire a woman because she became pregnant. So, I have no trouble believing that the studio would demand that these young women whose careers were based on looks and sex appeal be single.
If Norma Jean had stayed with this honourable person, the world would never have heard of her... and we would never have seen the beauty that she became..fate is a such a mysterious thing..🤔
@Niranjan Rajesh that's quite selfish really, basically what you're saying is, you would rather her be miserable and then eventually die really young just so you could know who she is rather than her be happy and live a long life with loads of her friends and family around.
@Niranjan Rajesh ok, I just think that a soul is still a soul though many others also suffer, everyone's life still matters. And if no fame meant a nice life, and would prevent her from doing the things she did, I think that it would be well worth it. Sorry if this doesn't make sense I did not proofread it.
He has a lot of class. Doesn't have anything negative to say about anyone. My son is the same way, I'm proud to say. People have a lot to learn from people with this trait.
In all honesty, and i watched lot of these vids not one person had anything bad to say about Marilyn, well except one, Tony Curtis but I think it was because he resent her steeling the show from him in Some like it hot.
I like that him refers to her has Normal Jean. That's what she was. I think that's who she ever was. And who people loved. But she and the studio created Marylin.
@@pneron2032 you're a naive little creature if you think almost everyone was articulate back then ... for example, I'm sure your ancestors were still drooling mouthbreathers
She looks so radiantly happy in that photo. Obviously, he loved her and wanted to care for her. So sad. I know Marilyn would have been a wonderful mother.
Everyone says she loved children and wanted one of her own so badly. Her life could’ve been so different if she and Jimmy had a baby and I think she would’ve been much happier in the long run. Comparing her to Clara seems unfair. Clara had mental illness in her family and a very traumatic family dynamic.
Irene Hernandez They’re talking about the many miscarriages Marilyn had. And how if she had kids her life would have been so different and that Marilyn probably would’ve been happier. Never in any of those comments did anyone say that she had to have kids. She wanted kids and she tried to and she wasn’t able to. And if people decide to give birth to children you have no right to call them selfish. They don’t have to adopt. I would love to adopt when I’m older and it’s a thing I want to do, but I’m not gonna tell someone that they’re selfish because they don’t want to adopt. Adopting is not a thing for everyone.
Yes she is suffering from DID, split personality disorder, Norma Jean and Marilyn Monror are indeed different person, have you seen the movie split?, its a defence mechanism to cope with childhood trauma, its like 2 person in one body.
Isn't it fascinating that women had to be single but engaged in countless relationships with the married men of Hollywood! What a sickening circle of pain! What a double standard!
It was better for the public to fall in love with single stars, from Hollywood's point of view. It's harder to daydream about a married one. Well, that was the thinking back then anyway. Even men were sometimes put in this predicament. Later on, even in the 70s and 80s, actors and musicians were told to keep girlfriends and marriages quiet, so they could continue to be the screen idol of teeny boppers and rake the money in for the studios or record companies.
Arranged marriage at 16? Who knows what they want at 16 especially someone with a troubled past. That marriage wasn’t love and wasn’t what she needed. 16 years old is statutory rape in California today I might add.
Probably, but she wouldn't have become immortalized in the memories of billions of people. Her name will live on for generations to come. It's a double edged sword.
What pissed me off how they laugh off this man‘s pain when he told the story about how she said that she wanted to have a piece of him in form of a baby.
And that Strasberg chick is annoying me with her theories on why Marilyn was happier becoming a star. Of course you're gonna talk like that when you and your entire family exploited the shit out of her both in life and death. I'm sure she loves the money made off of her. Of course they dont want to hear how happy Marilyn was with a simple kind man.
@@TabloulTauCanvas you have a point. Also Marilyn left her personal possessions to Lee Strasberg with a note saying to distribute her belongings amongst her friends in case she died. He didn’t he gave them to his spouse before his death instead, she then have them auctioned at Sothebys made millions from the auction.
So interesting how back then the only questions about her being a wife were about cooking and cleaning and being a housekeeper. She really proved she was more than that in her iconic career. What a legend💖
Well, that's what she was -- a housewife. Did you expect them to ask her about her ability to play hockey? If she had been a plumber, she would have been asked if she was a good plumber. Generally, smart people ask you about what you actually do.
The comment they made at the end... "she wanted it desperately" "yeah, you have too".. you have to want fame and fortune so desperately that you will give your life for it, that's the way Hollywood has been set up since the beginning. Its scary
It was an arranged Marriage and Jim new the score. it was basically to keep Norma Jeane from going back to the Orphanage! Marilyn Monroe - Grace Arranged It( Marriage to Jim Dougherty) June 19th 1942
01:56 So this guy had to decide between the Queen of Santa Barbara Festival and Marilyn Monroe ... it sounds like he was very popular with the ladies ...
Oh for the love of god folks, a baby cannot "change" a person's life in the way you're suggesting. Have a kid and everything will sprout roses and fairy dust, eh? You have so little understanding of the human mind and psychological suffering. If you have had a life like Norma Jean had, living in foster homes, being abandoned by her father, then her mother being mentally ill, you wouldn't say such a shallow thing. The poor woman grew up without roots, stability and parental love. You don't change all that loss, sorrow and abandonment and the ensuing difficulties with a god damned BABY! How fucking simple can you be? Plus, she had ambitions to become a model and an actress, so obviously motherhood to her was not an immediate priority at the time. She had goals and dreams that didn't include being a breeder. And good for her. Not every woman on this planet WANTS to be a mother. The fact is, it's a choice!!!
stregadisalem James didn’t want children with her because he felt that she was too young and it was during war time. She also had mixed feelings about it, from what I’ve read.
Yeah most foster parents (not all) but most are in it for profit. If you're going to have sex wrap it up or take a pill. Too many unwanted children in the world. Children need love if not many end up like MM
The only reason she married him was so she wouldn't have to go back to the orphanage .Not saying it to deride MM .That's just the way things were for women in those days .Very few options if you were in a difficult situation .Marrying was a way out .Her life at that time was from home to orphanage to home and back to orphanage .She never knew what a stable home life was like and he was her first experience with that . She spent the rest of her life longing for what she lacked as a child
I love Marilyn but she made a stupid mistake of leaving James. He loved Norma the way she was and treated her kindly until she decided a Hollywood contract was worth ending the marriage, then later on married two abusive men. Sad story
Grace wanted rid of her once she was 16 as she wouldn't get paid to Foster her come 16, so she arranged the marriage. A cruel betrayal. They spent very little time together, as he joined the Navy shortly after marrying. She got modelling work soon after with Emmeline Snively's agency & the rest is history.
Awww 3:20. I always knew Norma Jean so badly wanted a child but never knew she wanted one with James. Also, the way she said “I want a piece of you” when he was going to the service makes you realize she did indeed love James deeply. If she had a child with James, I don’t think we would’ve had Marilyn Monroe. Ultimately this would’ve been much better for her as well. Too bad, she didn’t have a child with James and she was perennially affected by depression which makes a person easily get bored and not feel content. That’s why she left her first husband to become the star we know and love today.
Wow. He is awesome. That is exactly what happened. She did not commit suicide. It really was accidental. She only wanted to bring joy and happiness to the world. She would have despised this legacy.
The pearls Susan strasberg is wearing here were given to her by Marilyn!! Mikomoto pearls. There is an incredible story behind Marilyn and the strasbergs. They inherited all of Marilyn's belongings and Susan's stepmother thought they wouldn't be worth anything. Alot of people believe the strasbergs used Marilyn and even their daughter Susan who was a big star on Broadway at the time. There is a great Vanity Fair article from 2003 which chronicles all that happened in the 50's when Marilyn attended classes at the actors studio.
Ok, people, you all need to stop! She was 16 when she got married. I know that times were different back then, but who the hell knows what they want at that age. She was still a child.
The level of maturity of a child from years back, like the 30's, 40's, even the 50's was much different than todays. Children were treated different back then, and were made to be self-reliant and independent, a lot of responsibility was laid on them from a very young age. A twenty year old person back then was already acting/behaving/thinking as a fully mature adult. Todays' 20 year old are incredibly immature and childish, even at 25 still are.
There is an interesting aspect to the life of dear Marilyn, one that speaks to the psychology of women, being raised poor, and the absence of a parents love. Her first marriage by all accounts seemed to offer a life of contentment, and she fit well there, but this need, this desire to be more, achieve more is understandable. When someone says your beauty is exceptional, one rightfully, and humbly says, that’s great but what am I to do with it?!, For Marilyn this revelation began to be seen as a financial reward, beauty = money, security. But soon, the little foster child within her needed something more, and so she began to push the limits of this captivating thing called beauty, and sex appeal. Movies were a step up, to modeling, and a much more substantial way to affirm her identity, she would use what she could to open the doors to Hollywood, but would soon seek to attain something more tangible, from the beauty that brought her there. In the interim, Marilyn married, for love I suppose, but also to give her a sense of who she was, it was nice for loads of men to want her, desire to be with her, but the process, the experience of marriage itself, was hard. Mainly because men have egos, and even though we desire beautiful women, want beauty in our woman, too much adoration from other men, makes us long for someone who didn’t come with so much attention of other men, add to that Marilyn loved the attention. Through it she could affirm who she was, and erase the stigma of a little girl no one really wanted. Movies, much like marriages, were something Marilyn needed more from. She didn’t like the dumb blonde sex pot label, she didn’t like the coveted prize, kept on the shelf, that men sought from her when she married them. Eventually this desire and the failings that came with it, from Hollywood, from Marriage depressed her, why couldn’t things fall in place perfectly!?, she wandered. Sex is always a good outlet for stress, and Marilyn used it. The sex with powerful men helped affirm some things for her, because,they wanted her. So she obliged. Unfortunately in this quest to find herself, affirm that she belonged, and the added scrutiny of the press, the Woman, who’d just wanted a foundation to establish who she was, lost herself, and lost control. In the end, the bargain between the real consequences of just one more sleeping pill, and the harmlessness of pretending not to know you’d had to many, was won by the latter. Our dear Marilyn was gone. In the end her story is a story about parenting. All the admiration and fame the world can muster, will never replace the love of a parent. So parents hug your children, love them. It means everything!
You forgot to mention that she had to deal with governamental secret services, like Intelligence, CIA. Can you wonder how hard it was for her? She asked for this? You know, she had to keep in silence secrets from society, secret from things out of this planet like 👽👽 she knew things that humans in this time still have no idea that exists. Norma is real strong soul!
@@unite4peace88 That's why I think her death could not be a suicide, she was a happy woman! Had problems like anyone but the difference was her consciousness! She were smart and knew too much, this is not a thing who pleased the most powerful people from this planet--- The intelligence's people from secret's services, they are too powerful, they can kill even with their hair! And they're like ghosts! If people knew what they know, omg, they would be totally shocked. Lot of people would never know how to deal but she was dealing and very well, maybe because her high QI, QE, QS, a fenomenal knowledge in a body of a beautiful woman. You know, she were super admired even by her friend Einstein, media doesn't show nothing at all 🙌🏻
I love what you said here. There’s another theory about her death that has been discussed in other videos that tell of her connections to powerful men that used her and got rid of her in the end.
Marilyn and James- they both had come from different planets my friends. They simply and obviously didn't click, they were utterly different, had different interests, talents, possibilities and GOALS in life. Blessed with utterly different personalities , strictly decent, down-to-earth guy and charming, vulnerable girl with huge drive towards making a splash in a big world... They had to split... The rest is history...
He looks like a nice guy and if she just stay with him she was probably the happiest woman that she deserves to be and doesn't have to be afraid of abusive Husband like Joe DiMaggio or Arthur Miller
Marilyn's kind hearted, empathic soul was taken total advantage of in her life after she left her first husband and could never be protected ever again.
Good observation of Susan Strasberg! Marilyn -so gifted- needed to express and not bury herself in a marriage even a good one. Death is the price you often have to pay for it. RIP Marilyn!
I read and watched a documentary that her first husband went to WAR and was a soldier. During the 2nd world war women went to work in major numbers, she also went to work at a factory. When her husband came back she had known that what made her happy was to be independent and to work. She no longer wanted to be settled down to being a house wife, as it was the custom. She then started to model and changed her appearance, so she also divorced because she felt she had to leave her old life to start a new one. I read also that this first husband was very jealous of her independence.
Grace was Norma Jean's legal guardian. It was very unlikely that Norman Jean would have had to return to the orphanage. That was probably just the excuse she used to get her married off before she moved away.
PatrickLHawkins I met a man recently...who says exactly that..that she was possibly going back to the orphanage if she didn't marry...(another man who says he was her first husband) Earl. He met her in Cali. They had a house there together. He is a Navy Veteran. He speaks very highly of her...and is in the process of writing a book about her and their relationship. He tells about her faith and how she loved children, and how they opened an orphanage overseas... So, if she married this guy at 16...in 1942...wondering when the first marriage was?? Does anyone else know of this or heard of this other man and marriage?
PatrickLHawkins well I read in Marilyn Monroes geography that she did indeed live in a orphanage once. It was because of Graces husband was sextually harassing Marilyn and Grace didnt like that and wanted Marilyn out of the house. And after grace took Marilyn back home she made sure Marilyn was sleeping in the same room as their daughter so that the husband would not harass her again. However the family had to move and Grace didnt want to bring Marilyn. And she could not find any family who would take her so she came up with and idea of marrying her off since she was off age. It was either marriage or back to the orphanage. (sorry bad English).
I feel like he / the interviewer totally mischaracterizes their relationship. The marriage was arranged. She was 16 when they married, he was against her having a career, so she divorced him....the end. It wasn’t some big romance.
Sally's hair looks nice! Marilyn was a stigma of everyone's imagination. No one knew her. They couldn't have known her because people like Marilyn are complicated. I mean that in a sensitive way. Things went on in Marilyn's mind that no one would know. People knew her as a person maybe, friend maybe, but never the real innermost depth of Marilyn. And in my opinion no one ever will. Marilyn is dead rest in peace.
Here are certain deaths that hunt us because one can sense there's something wrong about them. This is one of them. It's a spirit that cannot rest until truth comes out.
I see why Michael Jackson related to her.. both kind gentle souls who were misunderstood, dehumanised, exploited and chewed up and spat out by the business.
globalcitizenn Michael May have related to her and I was a huge fan of his. But I hardly would call a drug addict/plastic surgery addict/pedophile a “kind soul”.
What a chameleon Marilyn was! Talk about a transformation..from a pretty and simple young girl ..she turned herself into the ultimate hollywood goddess. Jane fonda said her magnetism was otherworldly she would draw you in with her glow.
It's so strange to hear "Norma". Maybe the problem was in Marilyn life that "Marilyn" and "Norma" were so different. It would confuse everybody, especially Marilyn, who had no real and loving family or background.
Being beautiful with much to give and love to give we are taken advantage of and abused. So sad and my heart always went out to Marilyn. I would like to know that she had some wonderful years……. I believe she did with her first husband. God bless you.
I think she was a confident woman. She wasn't lonely, everyone wanted her. She preferred things in a certain way. I think she was happy like everyone she had issues that was magnified.
For so many years, I puzzled over MM's death. At that time, the information given to the public on TV, in print and in interviews didn't add up. After watching the RUclips video called The Missing Evidence: The Death Of Marilyn Monroe For the first time I believe I understand what occurs and why the information was kept from the public. Sad, but in a way, the truth is healing or at least allows us to move on.
She should of stayed with him. I believe she thought she wasn’t enough. It breaks my heart to hear she felt she had to give the world something. The world took her childhood from her. I think she was mentally traumatized & had no business being in showbiz. Furthermore it’s sad that the world makes women feel like being a wife and mother isn’t enough. It is ladies and I wish someone would of told Marilyn that.
Fatima Jones He wasnt just a guy off the street, they dated for 6 months before they married. Good grief Lana Turner and Artie Shaw married the same night. Ok, it didnt last but then neither did any of her 7 other marriages. They might’ve been the happiest six months of her life if her husband hadn’t of had to go to war. I think Marilyn would’ve given up anything to be a wife and mother. And she would’ve been a lot happier as a mum than a plastic plaything tossed around men who just wanted her body.. And then killed her off after she’d outlived her usefulness and scandal happened. Look what happened to Princess Diana. If Prince Charles had been normal she’d still be alive today.
It wasn't as though they weren't dating. Her foster parents weren't allowed to take her with them out if state. In those days, you married. He seems quit nice. They obviously wanted a nice family for her.
She was under age so if she stayed alone in California she would have to go back to the orphanage she was 15-16 they were trying to keep her from foster dads taking advantage of her
It’s sad to me how many of these comments are bashing Marilyn Monroe (because she struggled with Mental Health, essentially). Y’all are wicked. RIP sweet girl
“She went though something that she wasn’t equipped to go through.”
That’s a mouthful right there; very well said.
Yes, that's true.
He may have been the only person in her life that didn't hurt her or try to profit off of her; he just wanted to take care of her and genuinely care for her.
Joel Cornette true but his head looks like a lightbulb but I agree with you
Joel Cornette thats not true...
Well stated, JC
what about dimaggio ?
Jodie Magio was also good to her
What a nice guy! Sally tried to get him to say something negative and he didn’t waiver. Even after she left him he still loved her. Wow. 👏
💕
He d have been the right one for her. But all she wanted was a career zzzzzz
James Dougherty seemed like a genuine, caring man = DATED Marilyn, respected her, respected himself, respected his community & mankind (police officer). I'm so glad I watched this interview.
He loved her as Norma Jean....he loved her before Monroe. He loved the "real" girl not the personna the studios forced her to be.
Yeah that's what happens when you go from a hard working irish immigrant to a roman empire filled Hollywood trickery
He didn't know her. The marriage was arranged. She had no option. She was 16.
back when police were more than revenue agents
She was just too selfcentered.,
The nicest of all her husbands .👍
And according to her,the most boring
He would beat her
@@Mclemonade no he didn t. di maggio beat her up wen he saw her in the seven ears itch witch her skirt blowing up. that was the end of that marriage.
@@davehoward22 Seems like that:)
@@andygonzalez6325 😐
Love how he emphasised she was a GOOD person. There's no doubt that this woman was rarest of the rare, she had an inner light that just glowed . We were very lucky to have this Goddess in our mist.
She was a human being like the rest of us. We're all flawed. Goddesses don't cheat on their husbands. Marilyn did cheat on Arthur miller apparently. I am a fan, but she was flawed, like all of us
*midst....
Yes a true godess.
Cheated on her husband, and left her first husband (who cared and respected her real self) only for fame.
@@normanrobson8654 she cheated on Arthur Miller after he emotionally abused her and stripped her of her self confidence. He did his best to let he know he felt she was stupid and was an embarrassment in front of his intellectual friends. So, perhaps the relationship was over by the time she cheated on that misogynist
Stop it
"She had to be single,to get a contract in Hollywood" Jesus
@@gingin3919 Ηξεραν οτι είναι ορφανη. Και χωρίς άντρα ,δεν θα είχε προστασία από πουθενά. Δεν είναι πολύ συμπαθητικός ο πρώην της;
Complete UNFAITHFULNESS.
Your marriage COMES FIRST !
Her Lust for fame ended her
Petros Kouklotheatros Jesus? Jesus what? Don’t forget allah and buddha😉
Not just to be a sexy Hollywood starlet! At that time if a woman wanted a job as a secretary, nurse, teacher, etc. she was asked if she planned to get married. If she was married she would be questioned closely about plans for pregnancy. It was legal and just fine to fire a woman because she became pregnant. So, I have no trouble believing that the studio would demand that these young women whose careers were based on looks and sex appeal be single.
Yes she is selling sex appeal. No one would be interested in a married person. Its the projected image
He called her "Norma Jean" and not "Marilyn". That speaks volume.
I loved that!
If Norma Jean had stayed with this honourable person, the world would never have heard of her... and we would never have seen the beauty that she became..fate is a such a mysterious thing..🤔
@Niranjan Rajesh that's quite selfish really, basically what you're saying is, you would rather her be miserable and then eventually die really young just so you could know who she is rather than her be happy and live a long life with loads of her friends and family around.
@Niranjan Rajesh you are disgusting
@Niranjan Rajesh again, you provided nothing but insults, just proved you're an awful human being.
@Niranjan Rajesh wasn't she molested, and abused
@Niranjan Rajesh ok, I just think that a soul is still a soul though many others also suffer, everyone's life still matters. And if no fame meant a nice life, and would prevent her from doing the things she did, I think that it would be well worth it. Sorry if this doesn't make sense I did not proofread it.
He has a lot of class. Doesn't have anything negative to say about anyone. My son is the same way, I'm proud to say. People have a lot to learn from people with this trait.
In all honesty, and i watched lot of these vids not one person had anything bad to say about Marilyn, well except one, Tony Curtis but I think it was because he resent her steeling the show from him in Some like it hot.
I never knew of this man but he is very good to her memory. Glad to hear this prespective.
What a good man, never new he was a police officer who helped her any way he could.
I like that him refers to her has Normal Jean. That's what she was.
I think that's who she ever was. And who people loved.
But she and the studio created Marylin.
Quem é a senhorita?
He's the only one i liked
he was quite articulate ... not sure why, but I wasn't expecting that
Marcel Audubon yes she married a smart man I can tell!
Everyone sounded articulate in that time period, listen to the recordings
@@artisticagi 1992? of course they didn't - don't be such a dope
@@Marcel_Audubon He wasn't born in 1992, you fool. He is articulate because he grew up at a time when almost everybody was.
@@pneron2032 you're a naive little creature if you think almost everyone was articulate back then ... for example, I'm sure your ancestors were still drooling mouthbreathers
She looks so radiantly happy in that photo. Obviously, he loved her and wanted to care for her. So sad. I know Marilyn would have been a wonderful mother.
You can tell he still loved her. While the letter was read you could see the pain in his heart and eyes.
Hello Katherine, How are you doing?
Had she not divorced James she would've become the mother and found the Family she always wanted and craved..
R.I.P Norma Jean Baker.
But she had a talent that needed to be expressed
Maybe not though bc of her reproductive issue but it happened the way it was supposed to
A baby would have changed EVERYTHING.
Everyone says she loved children and wanted one of her own so badly. Her life could’ve been so different if she and Jimmy had a baby and I think she would’ve been much happier in the long run. Comparing her to Clara seems unfair. Clara had mental illness in her family and a very traumatic family dynamic.
No one would have ever known who's if was
wow... so many kids needing homes & pple still say pop more kids... selfish
Irene Hernandez They’re talking about the many miscarriages Marilyn had. And how if she had kids her life would have been so different and that Marilyn probably would’ve been happier. Never in any of those comments did anyone say that she had to have kids. She wanted kids and she tried to and she wasn’t able to. And if people decide to give birth to children you have no right to call them selfish. They don’t have to adopt. I would love to adopt when I’m older and it’s a thing I want to do, but I’m not gonna tell someone that they’re selfish because they don’t want to adopt. Adopting is not a thing for everyone.
Irene Hernandez Are you ok? Are we meant to not have kids because other people give birth to kids they can’t take care of?
I think Norma Jean and Marilyn Monroe are different person.
And this gentleman knows
only Noma Jean.
R.I.P.Marilyn and 3 husbands.
Yes she is suffering from DID, split personality disorder, Norma Jean and Marilyn Monror are indeed different person, have you seen the movie split?, its a defence mechanism to cope with childhood trauma, its like 2 person in one body.
Same person. Different name as an actress, the industry forced a behaviours but the real woman was always there. 🙏🏻🕊️💗
Isn't it fascinating that women had to be single but engaged in countless relationships with the married men of Hollywood! What a sickening circle of pain! What a double standard!
Creeps like Harvey
Weinstein don't want
husbands getting in
the way (or rescuing
their prey).
Elvis Presley was required by contract to be single too.
It was better for the public to fall in love with single stars, from Hollywood's point of view. It's harder to daydream about a married one. Well, that was the thinking back then anyway. Even men were sometimes put in this predicament. Later on, even in the 70s and 80s, actors and musicians were told to keep girlfriends and marriages quiet, so they could continue to be the screen idol of teeny boppers and rake the money in for the studios or record companies.
Misogyny has always been around
Pretty much like KPop
She went to the world searching for love when she had it right here with this man. How sad. Hollywood destroyed her.
Victoria thas what it happens when you search for love outside home with out realizing what you search is at home only
True
Arranged marriage at 16? Who knows what they want at 16 especially someone with a troubled past. That marriage wasn’t love and wasn’t what she needed. 16 years old is statutory rape in California today I might add.
Pauline Vereker 16 back then was a normal age for marriage. Those were different times and it was normal.
exactly
If Marlyn didn’t divorce her first husband she probably would be alive.
BubonicTonic he didn’t. It was joe DiMaggio
But she wouldn't be marilyn. She was Norma Jean sans plastic surgery at that point.
Tracey Lamplugh that’s what I said!
Probably, but she wouldn't have become immortalized in the memories of billions of people. Her name will live on for generations to come. It's a double edged sword.
@@Zero8880 nothing's worth your happiness and mental health tbh🤷♀️
What pissed me off how they laugh off this man‘s pain when he told the story about how she said that she wanted to have a piece of him in form of a baby.
I felt his pain
They kept talking over him. That was the worst.
And that Strasberg chick is annoying me with her theories on why Marilyn was happier becoming a star. Of course you're gonna talk like that when you and your entire family exploited the shit out of her both in life and death. I'm sure she loves the money made off of her. Of course they dont want to hear how happy Marilyn was with a simple kind man.
@@TabloulTauCanvas you have a point. Also Marilyn left her personal possessions to Lee Strasberg with a note saying to distribute her belongings amongst her friends in case she died. He didn’t he gave them to his spouse before his death instead, she then have them auctioned at Sothebys made millions from the auction.
Yes a nice guy! Met him at a church social in 2001.
Paul Fulcher Did he ever get married and have kids?
@@matzohgirl I'm also curious..
So interesting how back then the only questions about her being a wife were about cooking and cleaning and being a housekeeper. She really proved she was more than that in her iconic career. What a legend💖
Well, that's what she was -- a housewife. Did you expect them to ask her about her ability to play hockey? If she had been a plumber, she would have been asked if she was a good plumber. Generally, smart people ask you about what you actually do.
Most women are more than that.
@@karaa7595 Yes, they are. But at that time, her main occupation was housewife. It's not a bad thing to be.
Her iconic career destroyed her.
@@karaa7595 that’s not his point dumbass. And frankly her career destroyed her as a person. She died sad and alone
How many times you see that, ex-husband genuinely defending an ex-wife! Hat's off to you, fellow U.S. Navy sailor!
The comment they made at the end... "she wanted it desperately" "yeah, you have too".. you have to want fame and fortune so desperately that you will give your life for it, that's the way Hollywood has been set up since the beginning. Its scary
You nailed it! Yes it’s a trap!
It's nice to here nice stuff said by an ex not the horrible trash thats exs say
Love this interview. He has always kept his dignity and Marilyn's. Joanne 😘💕❤
This is a great interview, Thank you
It was an arranged Marriage and Jim new the score. it was basically to keep Norma Jeane from going back to the Orphanage! Marilyn Monroe - Grace Arranged It( Marriage to Jim Dougherty) June 19th 1942
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Thank you for letting us all see these. You are wonderful for sharing 🌹‼️
01:56 So this guy had to decide between the Queen of Santa Barbara Festival and Marilyn Monroe ... it sounds like he was very popular with the ladies ...
Absolutely stunning so damn beautiful!! never in our life will we ever see such a beautiful lady as Norma Jean...
That one woman needs to be quiet she kept interrupting him!
Candy Gurl that's Sally Jesse Rafael. No wonder her talk show went off the air.
That's Lee Strasberg's daughter. Susan Strasberg.
And if you've got any blood sucking spider strasbergs involved forget it.
I agree she was annoying
Proud Cynophile No she was was talking about the woman sitting down that kept talking
I still love marilyn monroe today. I was 9 when I saw her death on the front page of the newspaper. I screamed and cried for 3 days. RIP Marilyn.
He respects her v much.
duran duran Agreed. Seems like an honorable man
What does "her v" symbolize?
cuteboysss he respects her “very much”
I wonder if Marilyn had been able to conceive a child with her first husband if her life would have been different.
stregadisalem she was too young.
stregadisalem Almost certainly.
Oh for the love of god folks, a baby cannot "change" a person's life in the way you're suggesting. Have a kid and everything will sprout roses and fairy dust, eh? You have so little understanding of the human mind and psychological suffering. If you have had a life like Norma Jean had, living in foster homes, being abandoned by her father, then her mother being mentally ill, you wouldn't say such a shallow thing. The poor woman grew up without roots, stability and parental love. You don't change all that loss, sorrow and abandonment and the ensuing difficulties with a god damned BABY! How fucking simple can you be? Plus, she had ambitions to become a model and an actress, so obviously motherhood to her was not an immediate priority at the time. She had goals and dreams that didn't include being a breeder. And good for her. Not every woman on this planet WANTS to be a mother. The fact is, it's a choice!!!
@@cjb128 but It took her life in the end, sad but true:(
stregadisalem James didn’t want children with her because he felt that she was too young and it was during war time. She also had mixed feelings about it, from what I’ve read.
Marilyn is the most beautiful! I Love her. Her first husband is so sweet ❤️
Foster parents didnt love her. Abandoned her.
Married her off to take her off their hands.
Yeah most foster parents (not all) but most are in it for profit. If you're going to have sex wrap it up or take a pill. Too many unwanted children in the world. Children need love if not many end up like MM
You can take them out of state they didnt abandon her
@@patriciaanzar8696
True. There isn't any way
that MM could have gone
with them.
No surprise there.
The movie business used and abused her, as it does. Thank you Jim for giving her those years.
Yep
The only reason she married him was so she wouldn't have to go back to the orphanage .Not saying it to deride MM .That's just the way things were for women in those days .Very few options if you were in a difficult situation .Marrying was a way out .Her life at that time was from home to orphanage to home and back to orphanage .She never knew what a stable home life was like and he was her first experience with that .
She spent the rest of her life longing for what she lacked as a child
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He seems like a decent man. What an interesting segment. So sad.
I love Marilyn but she made a stupid mistake of leaving James. He loved Norma the way she was and treated her kindly until she decided a Hollywood contract was worth ending the marriage, then later on married two abusive men. Sad story
Grace wanted rid of her once she was 16 as she wouldn't get paid to Foster her come 16, so she arranged the marriage. A cruel betrayal. They spent very little time together, as he joined the Navy shortly after marrying. She got modelling work soon after with Emmeline Snively's agency & the rest is history.
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He was drafted. Didn’t have a choice. You make it sound like he left her. He didn’t.
Perhaps the only genuinely kind man she was with.
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I think that if she had remained with Jim that she never would have been the success she was. But happier
DiMaggio beat her , Miller cheat her , Dougherty love her ;
At least she knew real love and happiness for a couple of years. Very touching.
Definitely her first marriage was happy and she was secure ..She made mistake going to Hollywood
Listening to this, especially the end, explaining how easily Hollywood stars can fall into drug abuse. So sad
Awww 3:20. I always knew Norma Jean so badly wanted a child but never knew she wanted one with James. Also, the way she said “I want a piece of you” when he was going to the service makes you realize she did indeed love James deeply. If she had a child with James, I don’t think we would’ve had Marilyn Monroe. Ultimately this would’ve been much better for her as well. Too bad, she didn’t have a child with James and she was perennially affected by depression which makes a person easily get bored and not feel content. That’s why she left her first husband to become the star we know and love today.
Wow. He is awesome. That is exactly what happened. She did not commit suicide. It really was accidental. She only wanted to bring joy and happiness to the world. She would have despised this legacy.
MOM pawned her off on him. She was so beautiful.
I loved her so much I wore vintage clothes from age 15.....no one got it
Because that being your reason is quite weird.
Why do you"have to be single to get a contract"? That's because they own you and want to take you and things. That's great.
The pearls Susan strasberg is wearing here were given to her by Marilyn!!
Mikomoto pearls. There is an incredible story behind Marilyn and the strasbergs. They inherited all of Marilyn's belongings and Susan's stepmother thought they wouldn't be worth anything. Alot of people believe the strasbergs used Marilyn and even their daughter Susan who was a big star on Broadway at the time. There is a great Vanity Fair article from 2003 which chronicles all that happened in the 50's when Marilyn attended classes at the actors studio.
Ok, people, you all need to stop! She was 16 when she got married. I know that times were different back then, but who the hell knows what they want at that age. She was still a child.
The level of maturity of a child from years back, like the 30's, 40's, even the 50's was much different than todays. Children were treated different back then, and were made to be self-reliant and independent, a lot of responsibility was laid on them from a very young age. A twenty year old person back then was already acting/behaving/thinking as a fully mature adult. Todays' 20 year old are incredibly immature and childish, even at 25 still are.
@@undomiel152003 it still not the same
@@carolinpurayidom4570 why you are so jealous? All old women are??
She looks more beautiful in this picture than when she became a star...
Susan Strasbourg's statements didn't make much sense.
she only opened her mouth to make others close theirs, not because she had any good reason to speak.
love this interview Jane was someone that treated her so well like a big sister.
Hello Marlene, how are you doing?
So great to hear James Dougherty speak about his wife Norma Jean. And great to know their marriage was a happy one. GOD bless the both of you 💜💙🙏🏾💚💛
There is an interesting aspect to the life of dear Marilyn, one that speaks to the psychology of women, being raised poor, and the absence of a parents love. Her first marriage by all accounts seemed to offer a life of contentment, and she fit well there, but this need, this desire to be more, achieve more is understandable. When someone says your beauty is exceptional, one rightfully, and humbly says, that’s great but what am I to do with it?!, For Marilyn this revelation began to be seen as a financial reward, beauty = money, security. But soon, the little foster child within her needed something more, and so she began to push the limits of this captivating thing called beauty, and sex appeal. Movies were a step up, to modeling, and a much more substantial way to affirm her identity, she would use what she could to open the doors to Hollywood, but would soon seek to attain something more tangible, from the beauty that brought her there. In the interim, Marilyn married, for love I suppose, but also to give her a sense of who she was, it was nice for loads of men to want her, desire to be with her, but the process, the experience of marriage itself, was hard. Mainly because men have egos, and even though we desire beautiful women, want beauty in our woman, too much adoration from other men, makes us long for someone who didn’t come with so much attention of other men, add to that Marilyn loved the attention. Through it she could affirm who she was, and erase the stigma of a little girl no one really wanted.
Movies, much like marriages, were something Marilyn needed more from. She didn’t like the dumb blonde sex pot label, she didn’t like the coveted prize, kept on the shelf, that men sought from her when she married them. Eventually this desire and the failings that came with it, from Hollywood, from Marriage depressed her, why couldn’t things fall in place perfectly!?, she wandered. Sex is always a good outlet for stress, and Marilyn used it. The sex with powerful men helped affirm some things for her, because,they wanted her. So she obliged. Unfortunately in this quest to find herself, affirm that she belonged, and the added scrutiny of the press, the Woman, who’d just wanted a foundation to establish who she was, lost herself, and lost control. In the end, the bargain between the real consequences of just one more sleeping pill, and the harmlessness of pretending not to know you’d had to many, was won by the latter. Our dear Marilyn was gone. In the end her story is a story about parenting. All the admiration and fame the world can muster, will never replace the love of a parent. So parents hug your children, love them. It means everything!
You forgot to mention that she had to deal with governamental secret services, like Intelligence, CIA. Can you wonder how hard it was for her? She asked for this? You know, she had to keep in silence secrets from society, secret from things out of this planet like 👽👽 she knew things that humans in this time still have no idea that exists. Norma is real strong soul!
@@ianaguimaraes8 Wow!, that is just another layer of intrigue, a testament to her beauty and titanium character!
@@unite4peace88 For sure.
@@unite4peace88 That's why I think her death could not be a suicide, she was a happy woman! Had problems like anyone but the difference was her consciousness! She were smart and knew too much, this is not a thing who pleased the most powerful people from this planet--- The intelligence's people from secret's services, they are too powerful, they can kill even with their hair! And they're like ghosts! If people knew what they know, omg, they would be totally shocked. Lot of people would never know how to deal but she was dealing and very well, maybe because her high QI, QE, QS, a fenomenal knowledge in a body of a beautiful woman. You know, she were super admired even by her friend Einstein, media doesn't show nothing at all 🙌🏻
I love what you said here. There’s another theory about her death that has been discussed in other videos that tell of her connections to powerful men that used her and got rid of her in the end.
She was one ambitious girl who needed more support in her life rather than rely on strangers who only used her.
Marilyn and James- they both had come from different planets my friends. They simply and
obviously didn't click, they were utterly different, had different interests,
talents, possibilities and GOALS in life. Blessed with utterly different personalities ,
strictly decent, down-to-earth guy and charming, vulnerable girl with huge drive towards
making a splash in a big world... They had to split... The rest is history...
Well said
This man seems to be a kind human person.
She was to naïve or confident in others people she met to survive in a showbusiness system.
Had she had that baby with James we wouldn't have had Marilyn, but Norma would've been happy.
It's better for Norma to be happy.
It was nice hearing from her first husband and all yall
Norma Jean was so young, poor thing. Her life was handled by others. Hollywood was her escape, but alas, how wrong she was.
Well she didn't knew any better not body teach her how to be a happy and respected by mans
Well she didn't knew any better not body teach her how to be a happy and respected by mans
He looks like a nice guy and if she just stay with him she was probably the happiest woman that she deserves to be and doesn't have to be afraid of abusive Husband like Joe DiMaggio or Arthur Miller
What a gentleman...❤️ xxx.
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Norma Jean "MM" IS the MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN in the WORLD!!!!
She's a very kind and lovely person but at the meantime her lust for fame ended her... Jesus...
Marilyn's kind hearted, empathic soul was taken total advantage of in her life after she left her first husband and could never be protected ever again.
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How different things would have been if she stayed with Jimmy and just lived a small, quiet life.
Good observation of Susan Strasberg!
Marilyn -so gifted- needed to express and not bury herself in a marriage even a good one. Death is the price you often have to pay for it. RIP Marilyn!
Translates as "Marilyn is worth cash. Married and happy as a mom and wife, Norma Jean is not worth cash"
Susan Strasberg profited off her memory
You know you’re a legend when a man goes on a Talkshow talking about you, js
Her first husband, at that!
So not just physical beauty but also good housekeeper and kind gentle soul! What any man would trade for?
I read and watched a documentary that her first husband went to WAR and was a soldier. During the 2nd world war women went to work in major numbers, she also went to work at a factory. When her husband came back she had known that what made her happy was to be independent and to work. She no longer wanted to be settled down to being a house wife, as it was the custom. She then started to model and changed her appearance, so she also divorced because she felt she had to leave her old life to start a new one. I read also that this first husband was very jealous of her independence.
@johann supper said by a guy that probably can't get a girlfriend.
Grace was Norma Jean's legal guardian. It was very unlikely that Norman Jean would have had to return to the orphanage. That was probably just the excuse she used to get her married off before she moved away.
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I met a man recently...who says exactly that..that she was possibly going back to the orphanage if she didn't marry...(another man who says he was her first husband) Earl. He met her in Cali. They had a house there together. He is a Navy Veteran. He speaks very highly of her...and is in the process of writing a book about her and their relationship. He tells about her faith and how she loved children, and how they opened an orphanage overseas... So, if she married this guy at 16...in 1942...wondering when the first marriage was?? Does anyone else know of this or heard of this other man and marriage?
PatrickLHawkins well I read in Marilyn Monroes geography that she did indeed live in a orphanage once. It was because of Graces husband was sextually harassing Marilyn and Grace didnt like that and wanted Marilyn out of the house. And after grace took Marilyn back home she made sure Marilyn was sleeping in the same room as their daughter so that the husband would not harass her again. However the family had to move and Grace didnt want to bring Marilyn. And she could not find any family who would take her so she came up with and idea of marrying her off since she was off age. It was either marriage or back to the orphanage. (sorry bad English).
@@manifestingbeautifullife2187 is the book out yet
No..not that I know of.
@@manifestingbeautifullife2187 I've never heard of it. But it's a bunch of bunk and not the slightest bit true
Can you upload the whole program. This is interesting!
Comforting to assume and believe, she had her early share of happiness with this gentleman.
I feel like he / the interviewer totally mischaracterizes their relationship. The marriage was arranged. She was 16 when they married, he was against her having a career, so she divorced him....the end. It wasn’t some big romance.
Emily Devereaux , too often guys try too hard to control women. Most unfortunately, the relationship cannot last that way.
At least he didn't trash her name.
I wish things would've worked out between them he didn't use her ,he loved her
Sally's hair looks nice!
Marilyn was a stigma of everyone's imagination. No one knew her. They couldn't have known her because people like Marilyn are complicated. I mean that in a sensitive way. Things went on in Marilyn's mind that no one would know. People knew her as a person maybe, friend maybe, but never the real innermost depth of Marilyn. And in my opinion no one ever will. Marilyn is dead rest in peace.
Here are certain deaths that hunt us because one can sense there's something wrong about them. This is one of them. It's a spirit that cannot rest until truth comes out.
I see why Michael Jackson related to her.. both kind gentle souls who were misunderstood, dehumanised, exploited and chewed up and spat out by the business.
globalcitizenn Michael May have related to her and I was a huge fan of his. But I hardly would call a drug addict/plastic surgery addict/pedophile a “kind soul”.
@@slimlouis6441 He wasn't a pedophile.
@@slimlouis6441 that was a false accusation to ruin his career
@@slimlouis6441 The ignorance you display is ugly
What a chameleon Marilyn was!
Talk about a transformation..from a pretty and simple young girl ..she turned herself into the ultimate hollywood goddess. Jane fonda said her magnetism was otherworldly she would draw you in with her glow.
It's so strange to hear "Norma". Maybe the problem was in Marilyn life that "Marilyn" and "Norma" were so different. It would confuse everybody, especially Marilyn, who had no real and loving family or background.
Being beautiful with much to give and love to give we are taken advantage of and abused. So sad and my heart always went out to Marilyn. I would like to know that she had some wonderful years……. I believe she did with her first husband. God bless you.
great interview thank u!
I think she was a confident woman. She wasn't lonely, everyone wanted her. She preferred things in a certain way. I think she was happy like everyone she had issues that was magnified.
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I think this was the most sincere marriage because he married Norma Jean Baker and not Marilyn Monroe. The other two did.
Being a spouse of someone in the military is lonely and boring. I know first hand.
It would have been a happy ending if they had had three or four children and stayed married x
Jane Grainger i just said the same thing and some abrusive prick has jumped down my throat
Yes She should had children with her first husband and be happy in her life
But then world will missed Marilyn monroe
He seems so sincere and honest. Marilyn would had a very different life if she had never gone to Hollywood. What a waste of a beautiful life.
Wow, He was Handsome.
For so many years, I puzzled over MM's death. At that time, the information given to the public on TV, in print and in interviews didn't add up. After watching the RUclips video called The Missing Evidence: The Death Of Marilyn Monroe For the first time I believe I understand what occurs and why the information was kept from the public. Sad, but in a way, the truth is healing or at least allows us to move on.
She should of stayed with him. I believe she thought she wasn’t enough. It breaks my heart to hear she felt she had to give the world something. The world took her childhood from her. I think she was mentally traumatized & had no business being in showbiz. Furthermore it’s sad that the world makes women feel like being a wife and mother isn’t enough. It is ladies and I wish someone would of told Marilyn that.
How can she say her life would have been worse? Mate, she died from a drug over dose and clearly was struggling. What a thing to say.
So she had aged out of the foster system and didn't have anywhere to go, so they married her off to this man.
Happens all the time
Fatima Jones He wasnt just a guy off the street, they dated for 6 months before they married. Good grief Lana Turner and Artie Shaw married the same night. Ok, it didnt last but then neither did any of her 7 other marriages. They might’ve been the happiest six months of her life if her husband hadn’t of had to go to war. I think Marilyn would’ve given up anything to be a wife and mother. And she would’ve been a lot happier as a mum than a plastic plaything tossed around men who just wanted her body.. And then killed her off after she’d outlived her usefulness and scandal happened. Look what happened to Princess Diana. If Prince Charles had been normal she’d still be alive today.
It wasn't as though they weren't dating. Her foster parents weren't allowed to take her with them out if state. In those days, you married. He seems quit nice. They obviously wanted a nice family for her.
@@TheTibmeister Don't call Marilyn Monroe a "plastic plaything.". None of use are perfect.
She was under age so if she stayed alone in California she would have to go back to the orphanage she was 15-16 they were trying to keep her from foster dads taking advantage of her
Love you grams! Love this interview!
It’s sad to me how many of these comments are bashing Marilyn Monroe (because she struggled with Mental Health, essentially). Y’all are wicked. RIP sweet girl
Great interview