Impressive packing 4 product placements in one video! But in all seriousness, I do appreciate that you guys are 100% upfront about your partnerships and always focus on the video first, not just a blatant plug.
Thanks Chris, we always want to be totally transparent about what we're up to and how we're able to produce hundreds of videos every year from cool locations like these which are totally free to watch. We're very lucky to be able to choose brands and products that we really rate to work with too - and everything you hear from us is our own work. Thanks for the support and understanding 👍
You should look into the South Korea’s Incheon to Busan via the 4 rivers bike trail... I am currently in South Korea and I am surprisingly super impressed with their bike super highway trails that have their own bridges, tunnels and great trails that are separated from vehicle traffic for almost the whole route... I believe you would really enjoy riding here... I think the word need to get out about how great the bike trails are here...
One suggestion for sleeping bags: get a silk bag liner. They reduce the grime you can add to your sleeping bag & are easier to clean than you bag is. This is esp important if you’re going to a sleep grimy. They also add a few more degrees of warmth & pack down to almost nothing.
Great video covering what you brought, but you did have a support crew, too. I guess a question, or questions, would be - were you charging your phone off of their gear? What back-up battery pack (battery packs being heavy) does Mark like to charge up his phone, GPS, safety lights, etc. when 'out there' for multi-day events? ... Writing of 'safety lights'; One glaring omission, I feel, that GCN skips all too often, but that markedly improves our safety during even daylight riding, is a front flashing white LED (around here with far more cross-sections, parking-lots and driveways), secondary being the flashing red rear LED. The groups I ride with are getting hit by cars, and pulled-out on, every week in this area, and the flashing bright white front LED has cut my instances dramatically over the last year I've been using it. For such a long road trip I'd have liked GCN to practice safety above and beyond what looks good, if only even to mimic it for fans.
What about an episode about budget friendly bikes? Some good relation of price and reliability for the smaller budget people or newbies. :) Pleaseeeeee!!!
You have done this ride and the Morocco ride using the 3T Exploro. Slightly different models and different wheels and tires needed for the routes. Tell us as much as you can about how you like the bike. What was great? What left a bit to be desired? Thanks so much for two excellent adventures and great filming. Honestly, the narrative is pretty good too!
I think what I love about bikepacking vs touring is that you give up all the protection of fenders and exchange it for all the grit and spray onto the drivetrain and rider. And the side benefit of all those straps for frame rub!
Those 20% climbs, especially the one with the bridge at the bottom seen in the video, are some of the hardest I have ever done. The kind were you have to go full gas in 36x32 just too keep moving
Impressive - ever thought about a GCN sports medicine channel to address the nutrition, training loads needed to get round in 3 days, and the niggling tendonitis that might develop after such an exertion without enough prep time to prepare adequately?
Great video! At 4:20 you mention you are currently doing another video for racing the 3t Exploro on road and off road (looking forward to that!)......How about attaching some clip on aero bars with the SRAM etap blip grips and seeing how well it does in a time trial? Then it would truly be a bike that a recreational cyclist can do everything on?
A food for thought: please, do thorough reviews of the following gravel bikes: - Salsa WarBird 2019 Carbon (in conjunction with either the Salsa Rack-Lock or Sala Post-Lock seat post rack mounts, a rack and panniers) - Norco Search XR - Accent Feral - Stiff Gravel Carbon - Look 765 Gravel - Ghost * Road Rage LC -series bikes - Forme Monsal - Fezzari Schafer Endurance - Giant Revolt Advanced -series - Bombtrack Hook EXT Carbo - Tifosi Cavazzo 2019 - Kona Libre -series - Fuji Jari Carbon -series - Vielo V+1 - Genesis Datum - Orro Terra Carbon -series - Jamis Renegade -series - Rodel Labs TrailDonkey - Focus Paralane (both the Carbon & the Aluminium sub-series) I'd also be interested to see reviews (thorough!) of the Métier Vélo & Bastion Bikes gravel / adventure bikes (prototypes, if such do not exist yet) - these are ridiculously beautiful bikes! Last but not least: how does Adipura compare to Ortlieb? Thank you.
@@lechprotean I give it to you: they're marginally slower than comparably-specced endurance road bikes on tarmac (still considerably faster than My Cannondale F1 and Titus FTM Carbon, both outfitted with slicks for asphalt!) but they have, in My opinion, a plethora of strong suits of their own that greatly outweigh the said advantage of an endurance road bike: - They are much hardier than any road bike. Most have a higher max. load spec. (i.e., Salsa Warbird Carbon). They're also more resilient, and thus more pothole, kurb, etc. -damage-proof. Both bikes and wheels. - Compatible with mudguards (i.e., can be ridden in bad weather, on wet ground!), racks (in some cases, both front and back!); some are also bento box -compatible and hub dynamo -ready out of the box; will take more bottle cages, tools, etc. - than any road bike. For a bicycle tourist like Myself (who is allergic to the looks of ugly heavy metal upright tanks that oldies use for touring) this is a godsend (and so is every other advantage of that bikes I've listed). Excuse My subjectivity on this one. - Faster on fire roads, cobbles, gravel and soft ground, which, depending on your itinerary or whereabouts, can preclude the sense of purchasing a road bike (even an endurance one) entirely. - When in shape, I weigh about 85-86 kilos. But, like many, I do struggle to maintain that weight for long. Not saying it's a good thing - rather, an inevitable burden. Right now, for instance, I weigh a hair over 116kg (i.e., before embarking on a tour). Add 30kg worth of luggage (the typical load required for most longer tours I do) to that - and you get 146kg total load. 146kg of load on a terrain encompassing everything from the most delightfully smooth tarmac to unpaved forest paths and gravel - you should agree, a proper gravel bike would cope much better with the task than any road bike, including the toughest of endurance models. - This is personal (I'm sure, you beg to differ), but personally I haven't seen a road bike quite as beautiful as any of the bikes I listed above. The Looks with integrated stems come very close (I've coveted the Looks with integrated stems for years - both MTB and road ones), but have a look at the seat stay - chain stay junction of gravel bikes like the 2019 Salsa Warbird Carbon, the carbon Norco Search (XR), the Vielo V+1, the Ghost Road Rage -series - a pure Art, as far as I'm concerned. I'll also admit: the Canyon Grail and the T3 Exploro are butt-ugly - if all the gravel bikes looked like these two - I'd shun them altogether. - No endurance bike is quite as comfortable as a gravel bike. Sure, a bit comfier than pure race bikes, but nowhere as comfortable as an endurance bike. I'm not a fan of gravel rides. I much prefer tarmac. But the marginal performance gain from the aerodynamics and the half a kilo or so lighter weight is, in My view, fully counteracted by the advantages of gravel bikes.
I'm going for a trip from Bodrum to Cyprus via Alanya (south western coast of Turkey) that will be around 1200km on the coast mid summer. I opted for a 35L backpack while cycling, I hope I won't regret this. 🙈
Really looking forward to the video on the "One bike to do it all" and secretly hoping that my failed bike vault submission of the etap Guerciotti somehow inspired this build (not a secret anymore, I suppose). Personally a fan of n=1.
Just a bit out of my price range- I'm about to cycle 4000 miles across Canada on a £350 bike and sleeping in a cheap old tent with duct tape on it! See what happens...
What is the Josh Ibbett Method you mentioned of packing? Is that the sleeping kit at the back, off the bike kit on the front and valuables on the top tube? Or more down to the way it all gets crammed in?
Lovely video and great sense of humor- thoroughly enjoyed it. Just one question how do you maintain such an awesome build? Can you share some diet recommendations?
Never mind the bike, or the bags, Kudos to you Si for being able to present in that kind of half crouch position. They all have silly names don't they, like "sh*tting dog" (as in "shaking like a"). I couldn't do it and Abbey Carver's my new mate! Ride On! Tim
Thanks for sharing the trick of "from the trignale" hydration! Sometimes it's hard to get on your own the idea that lays on the surface. Biasing: none is proteced :)
Seeing as Si and Mark were running such different tire widths, were there any major differences in comfort/speed, given it looks like the route was mostly (or entirely) paved?
Hi, I see that Mark use a different tires and, maybe, wheels, what he use? Thanks Great video the other of the scotland trip! I like these videos of bikepacking!!
@@richardalvarez9004 his point is it's not really self-supported as there's a support car anyway, so anything Si's packed was just to show off for product placement. And anything he missed the film/support crew provided.
Please do a comparison of downhill steering stability across a series of tires of different widths on the same frame. I had an experience with this in which a wide tire on a touring bike (Trek 520) caused the steering to become twitchy at high speeds downhill. On a subsequent ride with narrower tires on the same bike, I did not experience any similar steering twitchiness. I have never seen any explanation for why steering stability should be a function of speed and tire width.
Since the goal of aero is to maintain airflow over the tube and then have it detach with the least amount of turbulence, I don’t think detaching into that frame bag is gaining any advantage.
Who says he isn't? he mentioned that he had them running at about 55psi, which makes me think tubeless as they're better known for their performance at lower pressure. GP5000 comes in 28mm tubeless
Awesome as usual. QQ: Which bivy did you use? Please confirm that you packed both your bicycle and your tab 400 in that tail bag. Anything else? Oh and thank you for developing the video. I just put this on the bucket list and by the look of that day one climb it may be the last thing I do (smile). I will break into six days if I can.
strongly suggest using a rear radar , it can get very windy and wet, so sometimes you literally cant hear vehicles approaching from the rear (roads are all narrow). Also worth taking powerbank and electrolytes! Awesome route.
I use one on the road on nearly all my daily rides. However, with multi-days you’ll surely need to charge up daily and that means even more weight in battery packs.
Is there a rear radar that works with wahoo head unit. I gave up on my garmin head unit it kept glitching out and losing data. I really appreciated the rear radar though.
David Bamford The Garmin does work without a Garmin head unit. But, it means another little device on the bars. They make a radar-only head unit that signals from the radar. Not sure if you can buy just the unit or if it’s only bundled with a radar. Probably eBay if not.
David Bamford Bummer. eBay perhaps then. Of course, you could use a Garmin head unit and simple ignore everything but the radar part, but I feel your frustration.
what sort of lightweight tent did mark use on the trip? does anyone have any suggestions for lightweight bikepacking tents to be used around april/may across northern europe?
Brilliant deep-dive! I'm curious: how many eTap batteries did you guys go through during the trip? I reckon that'd be some fantastic real-world battery life metrics.
Si, is it possible to start giving the pressures in bar too. Most of the world doesn't know what psi is. I have to take note then go and find a convertor. You could for example say: 65 psi or 4.5 bar. Just a thought.
Cycle touring ended up as the unfashionable backwater of cycling, good to see it re-emerge with some funky looking new tech and branding, I don't think adventure travel ever went away but the ungainly custom bikes used for it these days have never looked very "sexy". this really lightweight minimal carry approach looks great, but I expect some low hung front and rear panniers would give a better cycling experience or even a lightweight trailer. at the expense of some flat into-wind performance for most riders covering more sustainable distances and travel focused experience, would make a good comparative test though.
I've just bought a Triban 540 which going on reviews, is a really decent bike. I'm hoping to do the 500 miles next year but am confused as what type of tyres i need. These ones on the video are pretty wide by the looks of it but if i want to take panniers, which i do, i think i can only go up to 28's, possibly even 25's which worries me for this terrain. So what I'm asking really is, is my bike no good for this trip? Thanks, have subscribed to the channel, learning loads!
Remember when people rode touring bikes instead, with practical features like racks and fenders and a very durable build quality with plenty of comfort?
Yeah, I don’t really get the point of a bike packing setup on a road bike. I get the genre where you’re basically taking a mountain bike and doing really long multi day off road rides, but this just seems like a better choice for a touring bike. Except touring bikes aren’t sexy and would mess with Si’s vanity 😂
The fun in bikepacking is that you don't need a separate touring bike, instead you can just slap some bags on your road bike (or mtb or whatever bike you might have) and you're good to go.
makko the bike is still only rated for a certain weight, and will still handle funny depending on how it’s loaded. If you really like traveling by bike, getting a touring bike is worth the effort. Especially since touring bikes are common and popular, so you can get a decent older one from the 80’s, probably with panniers, for the price of a set of name brand bike packing bags.
It will be interesting to see this 'can one bike rule them all' video. Given this bike is circa 5-6k could you have 3 times 1.5-2k specialist bikes (road, XC, bikpacking) which would win in each case?
Always interesting that when it comes to the off road/ gravel riding that the go to groupset seems to be SRAM. I would be interested to know if you think that a Shimano set up would be able to handle all that you would be asking of it. I know that in Iceland it was a Shimano equipped bike that you used there and it seemed to stand up to everything that was thrown at it but wondered if there was any reason why SRAM was the go to? Do always find it hilarious to talk about aero when your talking about a bike which had bags here there and everywhere! 😋 Great video Si and interested to hear why it was 3T you went for this time around since all the riding was on road?! Cheers!
The reasoning was mentioned in the video, this is supposed to be for road, cross and touring. ruclips.net/video/9Z4pFjwveSc/видео.html I'm sure he could have set up Shimano Ultegra Di2 on this frame, but for cross SRAM is king. Shimano don't currently have a dedicated CX groupset or crank set up, so if he wanted to just go for an all inclusive electronic groupset that's dedicated to touring/cross then this is the one.
If shimano launch 42/28 crankset, thats perfect for adventure But you can 'build' that with deore double m610 38/28, and replace 38t with 42t from bigring m615
@@sambarrie6947 Shimano does, e.g. the Ultegra cranks are 46/36T (34T should be possible on the small ring), and even without a RD hanger extender you can run 11-34 cassettes/medium cage, e.g. the rx clutch RD. Throw in a wolftooth roadlink and a longer chain, then you can go up to 2x 11-40.
When you say "pants," I assume that you mean what we would call "underwear" in the states. Touchy subject, but what do you like for "pants" (British definition)? Do you wear "pants" on the bike as well? What do you recommend on and off the bike and for different types of rides? Thanks very very much for any response you are willing to give to this terribly forward question.
I am somewhat surprised with you selection of your handlebar/bag -- with such sizes you effectively disabled riding in drops (at least comfortably). Would you now pick wider handlebar or packed less so the bag won't touch drops? 270km per day is way out of my league, but hopefully in future (however I am afraid you will be riding 500 miles per day then ;-)).
funny you mention that - i just returned from a bikepacking trip and had the same problem you are referencing. If i packed too much in the handlebar bag, it almost rendered my drops useless. I could just squeeze my thumbs in there. I ended up not riding in the drops almost the whole trip
Hey guys, all time fan from the Dominican Republic. I've got a very old predicament. My spokes break off from either side and when they do, the wheel completely locks up into the frame, leaving me effectively stranded wherever I am. I feel that the wheel should not go so out of true that it bends beyond repair, stranding me every time. Im very interested to hear your thoughts. I am 238 pounds of weight and ride custom mavic cxp wheels with 25mm gatorskin tires at 90 PSI. Cheers.
Nicolas Almonte your wheel builder must be doing something wrong for that rim to blow out spokes all the time. I would recommend getting another wheel guy or that you buy a pair of DT Swiss PR 1600 Spline 32 wheels (or the R32 Spline predecessor). They are rated to 130kg and have been bomb proof for me so far and I’m not far off your weight. (Especially not when I'm carrying my commuter backpack with spare clothes, laptop, iPad etc.)
Good day , this morning, gratitude for or by your rewiw about 3t bike that wonderfull and bagagem to trip, Nice vídeo and I nerd to translate for portugueses com Brasil, Natal , Rio Grande do Norte! Tank's - sorry my english, ok
I'm looking for a saddle bag like that just to put a spare bibs and jersey, paor of slippers and rain jacket. is it too overkill? I'm using it for commuting to work, I sweat a lot, so I needed to change to another set of bib and jersey when riding back home from work, takes about one and a half hour
More bikepacking please!
second this all day, the videos are amazing
Yes, please!
Impressive packing 4 product placements in one video! But in all seriousness, I do appreciate that you guys are 100% upfront about your partnerships and always focus on the video first, not just a blatant plug.
4? Did you forget the gcn sweater?
@@ooldmka I count 3T, Sram, Wahoo, Camelbak, Continental, Apidura, Fizik, Look, Rab, Alpkit, GCN.
Still love you GCN.
@@jackseph03 wow. Didn't even notice most of them.
they are a marketing company and as such have to be 'upfront' by law. I'm not complaining much better than watching manufacturer adverts!
Thanks Chris, we always want to be totally transparent about what we're up to and how we're able to produce hundreds of videos every year from cool locations like these which are totally free to watch. We're very lucky to be able to choose brands and products that we really rate to work with too - and everything you hear from us is our own work. Thanks for the support and understanding 👍
You should look into the South Korea’s Incheon to Busan via the 4 rivers bike trail... I am currently in South Korea and I am surprisingly super impressed with their bike super highway trails that have their own bridges, tunnels and great trails that are separated from vehicle traffic for almost the whole route... I believe you would really enjoy riding here... I think the word need to get out about how great the bike trails are here...
One suggestion for sleeping bags: get a silk bag liner. They reduce the grime you can add to your sleeping bag & are easier to clean than you bag is. This is esp important if you’re going to a sleep grimy. They also add a few more degrees of warmth & pack down to almost nothing.
Great video covering what you brought, but you did have a support crew, too. I guess a question, or questions, would be - were you charging your phone off of their gear? What back-up battery pack (battery packs being heavy) does Mark like to charge up his phone, GPS, safety lights, etc. when 'out there' for multi-day events? ... Writing of 'safety lights'; One glaring omission, I feel, that GCN skips all too often, but that markedly improves our safety during even daylight riding, is a front flashing white LED (around here with far more cross-sections, parking-lots and driveways), secondary being the flashing red rear LED. The groups I ride with are getting hit by cars, and pulled-out on, every week in this area, and the flashing bright white front LED has cut my instances dramatically over the last year I've been using it. For such a long road trip I'd have liked GCN to practice safety above and beyond what looks good, if only even to mimic it for fans.
What about an episode about budget friendly bikes? Some good relation of price and reliability for the smaller budget people or newbies. :)
Pleaseeeeee!!!
i just managed to get a jamis aurora elite 2016 for £500 and thats sick, i was gonna go for the jamis bosanova which also looks pretty decent :)
My first LEJoG was 1100 miles via the Hebrides on a £450 Dawes Giro. It’s not just about the bike...
You have done this ride and the Morocco ride using the 3T Exploro. Slightly different models and different wheels and tires needed for the routes. Tell us as much as you can about how you like the bike. What was great? What left a bit to be desired? Thanks so much for two excellent adventures and great filming. Honestly, the narrative is pretty good too!
I think what I love about bikepacking vs touring is that you give up all the protection of fenders and exchange it for all the grit and spray onto the drivetrain and rider. And the side benefit of all those straps for frame rub!
Yup, utterly bonkers !
I use the same bags! Have done varies trips and very happy with the them
Those 20% climbs, especially the one with the bridge at the bottom seen in the video, are some of the hardest I have ever done. The kind were you have to go full gas in 36x32 just too keep moving
Impressive - ever thought about a GCN sports medicine channel to address the nutrition, training loads needed to get round in 3 days, and the niggling tendonitis that might develop after such an exertion without enough prep time to prepare adequately?
Beautiful setup for bike packing!
Great video! At 4:20 you mention you are currently doing another video for racing the 3t Exploro on road and off road (looking forward to that!)......How about attaching some clip on aero bars with the SRAM etap blip grips and seeing how well it does in a time trial? Then it would truly be a bike that a recreational cyclist can do everything on?
Exciting, I plan on cycling Scotland this year. Thanks Simon for information on the kit and bike used. The roads looks stunning!
A food for thought: please, do thorough reviews of the following gravel bikes:
- Salsa WarBird 2019 Carbon (in conjunction with either the Salsa Rack-Lock or Sala Post-Lock seat post rack mounts, a rack and panniers)
- Norco Search XR
- Accent Feral
- Stiff Gravel Carbon
- Look 765 Gravel
- Ghost * Road Rage LC -series bikes
- Forme Monsal
- Fezzari Schafer Endurance
- Giant Revolt Advanced -series
- Bombtrack Hook EXT Carbo
- Tifosi Cavazzo 2019
- Kona Libre -series
- Fuji Jari Carbon -series
- Vielo V+1
- Genesis Datum
- Orro Terra Carbon -series
- Jamis Renegade -series
- Rodel Labs TrailDonkey
- Focus Paralane (both the Carbon & the Aluminium sub-series)
I'd also be interested to see reviews (thorough!) of the Métier Vélo & Bastion Bikes gravel / adventure bikes (prototypes, if such do not exist yet) - these are ridiculously beautiful bikes!
Last but not least: how does Adipura compare to Ortlieb?
Thank you.
they are all just slow road bikes - get an endurance type road bike that can fit some wider tyres and save some money
@@lechprotean I give it to you: they're marginally slower than comparably-specced endurance road bikes on tarmac (still considerably faster than My Cannondale F1 and Titus FTM Carbon, both outfitted with slicks for asphalt!) but they have, in My opinion, a plethora of strong suits of their own that greatly outweigh the said advantage of an endurance road bike:
- They are much hardier than any road bike. Most have a higher max. load spec. (i.e., Salsa Warbird Carbon). They're also more resilient, and thus more pothole, kurb, etc. -damage-proof. Both bikes and wheels.
- Compatible with mudguards (i.e., can be ridden in bad weather, on wet ground!), racks (in some cases, both front and back!); some are also bento box -compatible and hub dynamo -ready out of the box; will take more bottle cages, tools, etc. - than any road bike. For a bicycle tourist like Myself (who is allergic to the looks of ugly heavy metal upright tanks that oldies use for touring) this is a godsend (and so is every other advantage of that bikes I've listed). Excuse My subjectivity on this one.
- Faster on fire roads, cobbles, gravel and soft ground, which, depending on your itinerary or whereabouts, can preclude the sense of purchasing a road bike (even an endurance one) entirely.
- When in shape, I weigh about 85-86 kilos. But, like many, I do struggle to maintain that weight for long. Not saying it's a good thing - rather, an inevitable burden. Right now, for instance, I weigh a hair over 116kg (i.e., before embarking on a tour). Add 30kg worth of luggage (the typical load required for most longer tours I do) to that - and you get 146kg total load. 146kg of load on a terrain encompassing everything from the most delightfully smooth tarmac to unpaved forest paths and gravel - you should agree, a proper gravel bike would cope much better with the task than any road bike, including the toughest of endurance models.
- This is personal (I'm sure, you beg to differ), but personally I haven't seen a road bike quite as beautiful as any of the bikes I listed above. The Looks with integrated stems come very close (I've coveted the Looks with integrated stems for years - both MTB and road ones), but have a look at the seat stay - chain stay junction of gravel bikes like the 2019 Salsa Warbird Carbon, the carbon Norco Search (XR), the Vielo V+1, the Ghost Road Rage -series - a pure Art, as far as I'm concerned. I'll also admit: the Canyon Grail and the T3 Exploro are butt-ugly - if all the gravel bikes looked like these two - I'd shun them altogether.
- No endurance bike is quite as comfortable as a gravel bike. Sure, a bit comfier than pure race bikes, but nowhere as comfortable as an endurance bike.
I'm not a fan of gravel rides. I much prefer tarmac. But the marginal performance gain from the aerodynamics and the half a kilo or so lighter weight is, in My view, fully counteracted by the advantages of gravel bikes.
I'm going for a trip from Bodrum to Cyprus via Alanya (south western coast of Turkey) that will be around 1200km on the coast mid summer. I opted for a 35L backpack while cycling, I hope I won't regret this. 🙈
Really looking forward to the video on the "One bike to do it all" and secretly hoping that my failed bike vault submission of the etap Guerciotti somehow inspired this build (not a secret anymore, I suppose). Personally a fan of n=1.
Just a bit out of my price range- I'm about to cycle 4000 miles across Canada on a £350 bike and sleeping in a cheap old tent with duct tape on it! See what happens...
alasdair geddes thats true adventure!
Man you are going to be sick of Tim Hortons when youare done but good luck from Montreal.
Woohoo! Have an AWESOME trip A!
That how you did it! These mission makes the best memories and provide the best experiences
Take mosquito Repellant. + headnet. You'll need it. It's a great tour. Except H17.
You all should add the camping gear links in the description
No mechanical issues from a brand new bike, shocker! LOL Seriously looks like a true all round bike though. :)
What is the Josh Ibbett Method you mentioned of packing? Is that the sleeping kit at the back, off the bike kit on the front and valuables on the top tube? Or more down to the way it all gets crammed in?
Flixterino was waiting for that info too, and never seem to appear!
I believe everything you said about the bike. I really do.
I was hoping to see how is the frame bag actually packed, including the water bladder.
Great film, lovely set up!!
is that mug ANT + compatible?
reminds me of a monty python sketch about bikepacking. must be a british thing ?
I think the dangle-mug should be replaced with a stainless steel one. That'll allow you to engrave teh epic rides that you've made on it.
I hope to do the North Coast 500 someday. Thank for the information on the type of bike you used and gear you used
Lovely video and great sense of humor- thoroughly enjoyed it. Just one question how do you maintain such an awesome build? Can you share some diet recommendations?
Bike packing is the best.
Front derailleur equipped... aaaaand relax.
Wouldve been nice to open the bags up and show the contents when he was talking about storage
Never mind the bike, or the bags, Kudos to you Si for being able to present in that kind of half crouch position. They all have silly names don't they, like "sh*tting dog" (as in "shaking like a"). I couldn't do it and Abbey Carver's my new mate! Ride On! Tim
What sleeping bag did you use? As that's the item I always struggle to pack down and your saddle back doesnt bulge too much (oo errr).
I think running a 2x on a mainly tarmac route would also be my choice; but I'd prefer slightly wider tyres.
why would you need more than 28mm for paved roads? 28mm is already plush enough IMO (I'm riding that everyday)
Thanks for sharing the trick of "from the trignale" hydration! Sometimes it's hard to get on your own the idea that lays on the surface. Biasing: none is proteced :)
Dude...you rock!
The Apidura, handlebar bags have no standoffs! Plop!
Wow, aero check...fat tires check...sounds like an awesome bike.
bit pointless to go 'aero' and then get a handlebar bag, isn't it?
Great video, inspiring and instructive, thanks
Seeing as Si and Mark were running such different tire widths, were there any major differences in comfort/speed, given it looks like the route was mostly (or entirely) paved?
Chris Hoy Si, did you consider the 32mm Conti GP 5000 TL rather than the 28mm you used?
Si, can you give a comparison to the Revelate kit you used in Morocco?
Excellent! But no dynamo hub?
Not this time!
Hi, I see that Mark use a different tires and, maybe, wheels, what he use? Thanks
Great video the other of the scotland trip!
I like these videos of bikepacking!!
Should have mounted water bottles on the side of the fork :)
Why not mount mudguards exploring in something as rainy as Scotland?
But where did you carry that big bottle of drinking water you can see next to you at 9:54?
In the camera crew car!
@@richardalvarez9004 his point is it's not really self-supported as there's a support car anyway, so anything Si's packed was just to show off for product placement. And anything he missed the film/support crew provided.
@@lechprotean I mean, there wasn't really anything missing. All the stuff mentioned in the video is more than enough to go bikepacking.
Please do a comparison of downhill steering stability across a series of tires of different widths on the same frame. I had an experience with this in which a wide tire on a touring bike (Trek 520) caused the steering to become twitchy at high speeds downhill. On a subsequent ride with narrower tires on the same bike, I did not experience any similar steering twitchiness. I have never seen any explanation for why steering stability should be a function of speed and tire width.
What tent was Mark B using? If the same weight and size as the Bivvy Bag, it seems a no brainer, over a Bivvy. (Might be copying your trip next year)
Ditch the bivy, get a light tent. It's always a better solution condension wise.
I fell in love...
Great stuff. Cant wait to ride this route soon.
Awesome, let us know how you get on!
What cycling shoes did you wear? Mostly white w some black.
Since the goal of aero is to maintain airflow over the tube and then have it detach with the least amount of turbulence, I don’t think detaching into that frame bag is gaining any advantage.
Hey the tube is still aero even if the air around it isn't!
This was great! Thanks for breaking this all down. I’d love a picture of that stovi (?) you ate. Cheers.
Came to the video after seeing your 500 mile Scotland ride video
Thats a fortune in bags there!
Freehub soundcheck?
Looks like Mark Beaumont had wider tires. Were they a wider version of the same continental tire?
Nope, I think were WTB
Why not use tubeless tires for bike-packing to almost eliminate the possibility of getting flats, instead of using tubes ?
Speed.
@@ooldmka tubeless tyres are faster though? I would assume he just couldn't be bothered to mess about with setting up the tubeless tyres and sealant.
Who says he isn't? he mentioned that he had them running at about 55psi, which makes me think tubeless as they're better known for their performance at lower pressure. GP5000 comes in 28mm tubeless
@sam barrie. He said he carried two spare inner tubes. So probably not riding tubeless.
@@grobson4 I mean two tubes just in case he gets big big punctures? Idk, I'm just saying it doesn't rule it out.
Awesome as usual. QQ: Which bivy did you use? Please confirm that you packed both your bicycle and your tab 400 in that tail bag. Anything else? Oh and thank you for developing the video. I just put this on the bucket list and by the look of that day one climb it may be the last thing I do (smile). I will break into six days if I can.
Oooops, I just saw the Rab bivy comment and saw confirmation on the sleeping pad. Cheers
Watched your vid just great. I. Loki g at doing this trip2022.))
Apidura rear bag should be wrapped closed the other way round, not completely waterproof that way as water can pool on top.
strongly suggest using a rear radar , it can get very windy and wet, so sometimes you literally cant hear vehicles approaching from the rear (roads are all narrow). Also worth taking powerbank and electrolytes! Awesome route.
I use one on the road on nearly all my daily rides. However, with multi-days you’ll surely need to charge up daily and that means even more weight in battery packs.
Is there a rear radar that works with wahoo head unit. I gave up on my garmin head unit it kept glitching out and losing data. I really appreciated the rear radar though.
David Bamford The Garmin does work without a Garmin head unit. But, it means another little device on the bars. They make a radar-only head unit that signals from the radar. Not sure if you can buy just the unit or if it’s only bundled with a radar. Probably eBay if not.
Seth Frankel garmin won’t sell me the radar only head unit unless I buy it with a new radar. I’m frustrated
David Bamford Bummer. eBay perhaps then. Of course, you could use a Garmin head unit and simple ignore everything but the radar part, but I feel your frustration.
what sort of lightweight tent did mark use on the trip? does anyone have any suggestions for lightweight bikepacking tents to be used around april/may across northern europe?
Brilliant deep-dive! I'm curious: how many eTap batteries did you guys go through during the trip? I reckon that'd be some fantastic real-world battery life metrics.
As Si tells you in the video, when you would have listend, they used 3 batteries per day and on the last day 4 batteries. I hope that helps.
10:47 "Didn't even make a dent in the charge of the eTap batteries"
Si, is it possible to start giving the pressures in bar too. Most of the world doesn't know what psi is. I have to take note then go and find a convertor. You could for example say: 65 psi or 4.5 bar. Just a thought.
Si, any chance you know what make/model tent Mark had?
I would also like to know!
Nordisk Telemark
Thanks, but it's not a Nordisk.
Think its a Terra Nova Laser Pulse @@SimoWill75
Cycle touring ended up as the unfashionable backwater of cycling, good to see it re-emerge with some funky looking new tech and branding, I don't think adventure travel ever went away but the ungainly custom bikes used for it these days have never looked very "sexy". this really lightweight minimal carry approach looks great, but I expect some low hung front and rear panniers would give a better cycling experience or even a lightweight trailer. at the expense of some flat into-wind performance for most riders covering more sustainable distances and travel focused experience, would make a good comparative test though.
I've just bought a Triban 540 which going on reviews, is a really decent bike. I'm hoping to do the 500 miles next year but am confused as what type of tyres i need. These ones on the video are pretty wide by the looks of it but if i want to take panniers, which i do, i think i can only go up to 28's, possibly even 25's which worries me for this terrain. So what I'm asking really is, is my bike no good for this trip? Thanks, have subscribed to the channel, learning loads!
What tent di Marc use?
Great video.
Congrats on the 500
Same question Si; what tent was Marc using?
Hi Roger and Paul. I think it was a Terra Nova Pulse, but not entirely sure. @@polwok
@@nickwithers4964 Haha...only £990
It was a Vango Force Ten Helium UL.
@@scoopermg8226 Vango Force Ten Helium - about £150 - £200 depending on the 1 or 2
Remember when people rode touring bikes instead, with practical features like racks and fenders and a very durable build quality with plenty of comfort?
the market wants to force expensive materials down your throat so you will give them money!
Yeah, I don’t really get the point of a bike packing setup on a road bike. I get the genre where you’re basically taking a mountain bike and doing really long multi day off road rides, but this just seems like a better choice for a touring bike. Except touring bikes aren’t sexy and would mess with Si’s vanity 😂
The fun in bikepacking is that you don't need a separate touring bike, instead you can just slap some bags on your road bike (or mtb or whatever bike you might have) and you're good to go.
makko the bike is still only rated for a certain weight, and will still handle funny depending on how it’s loaded. If you really like traveling by bike, getting a touring bike is worth the effort. Especially since touring bikes are common and popular, so you can get a decent older one from the 80’s, probably with panniers, for the price of a set of name brand bike packing bags.
I mean, he literally says in this video that this is supposed to be the bike that can do gravel, road and touring..
It will be interesting to see this 'can one bike rule them all' video. Given this bike is circa 5-6k could you have 3 times 1.5-2k specialist bikes (road, XC, bikpacking) which would win in each case?
Good luck travelling with three bikes!
what would be a better bikepacking bike than this? I agree there's better bikes for other use cases though...
Would you have changed anything ? Do you prefer bicycle to tent? Or is a cost /weight thing?
Always interesting that when it comes to the off road/ gravel riding that the go to groupset seems to be SRAM. I would be interested to know if you think that a Shimano set up would be able to handle all that you would be asking of it. I know that in Iceland it was a Shimano equipped bike that you used there and it seemed to stand up to everything that was thrown at it but wondered if there was any reason why SRAM was the go to? Do always find it hilarious to talk about aero when your talking about a bike which had bags here there and everywhere! 😋 Great video Si and interested to hear why it was 3T you went for this time around since all the riding was on road?! Cheers!
The reasoning was mentioned in the video, this is supposed to be for road, cross and touring. ruclips.net/video/9Z4pFjwveSc/видео.html
I'm sure he could have set up Shimano Ultegra Di2 on this frame, but for cross SRAM is king. Shimano don't currently have a dedicated CX groupset or crank set up, so if he wanted to just go for an all inclusive electronic groupset that's dedicated to touring/cross then this is the one.
If shimano launch 42/28 crankset, thats perfect for adventure
But you can 'build' that with deore double m610 38/28, and replace 38t with 42t from bigring m615
@@sambarrie6947 Shimano does, e.g. the Ultegra cranks are 46/36T (34T should be possible on the small ring), and even without a RD hanger extender you can run 11-34 cassettes/medium cage, e.g. the rx clutch RD. Throw in a wolftooth roadlink and a longer chain, then you can go up to 2x 11-40.
When you say "pants," I assume that you mean what we would call "underwear" in the states. Touchy subject, but what do you like for "pants" (British definition)? Do you wear "pants" on the bike as well? What do you recommend on and off the bike and for different types of rides? Thanks very very much for any response you are willing to give to this terribly forward question.
Why not get a tourer with a pannier rack?
Casual trousers - chinos?
Si, what tent did mark use?
Wonder how that 3T did on such a long ride.. ive been debating on it as a gravel / touring bike but they get such mixed reviews.
I am somewhat surprised with you selection of your handlebar/bag -- with such sizes you effectively disabled riding in drops (at least comfortably). Would you now pick wider handlebar or packed less so the bag won't touch drops? 270km per day is way out of my league, but hopefully in future (however I am afraid you will be riding 500 miles per day then ;-)).
funny you mention that - i just returned from a bikepacking trip and had the same problem you are referencing. If i packed too much in the handlebar bag, it almost rendered my drops useless. I could just squeeze my thumbs in there. I ended up not riding in the drops almost the whole trip
What chain is that?
Awesome video and awesome bike!
All I want to know who is the guy in the yellow top that is with you 2 in some of the shots??
He was the escort rider for the guy who was running.
Not that guy as he was on a mtb the other guy was on a road bike.
Chris froome. Touring de France and got lost.
Darren Garvie I think he was the drone and film person, shame he didn't get a mention.
Can you use a saddle bag with a carbon seat post?
Hey guys, all time fan from the Dominican Republic. I've got a very old predicament. My spokes break off from either side and when they do, the wheel completely locks up into the frame, leaving me effectively stranded wherever I am. I feel that the wheel should not go so out of true that it bends beyond repair, stranding me every time. Im very interested to hear your thoughts. I am 238 pounds of weight and ride custom mavic cxp wheels with 25mm gatorskin tires at 90 PSI. Cheers.
Nicolas Almonte your wheel builder must be doing something wrong for that rim to blow out spokes all the time. I would recommend getting another wheel guy or that you buy a pair of DT Swiss PR 1600 Spline 32 wheels (or the R32 Spline predecessor). They are rated to 130kg and have been bomb proof for me so far and I’m not far off your weight. (Especially not when I'm carrying my commuter backpack with spare clothes, laptop, iPad etc.)
Lovely bike Si’, but 28mm Conti GP5000’s?......really?, on the NC 500, did you puncture?......p.s. excuse the verb ‘to puncture!’....Rob
It is not affected your handle bar when you are turn left or right
Thanks men
Is that not 38 litres of storage?
Good day , this morning, gratitude for or by your rewiw about 3t bike that wonderfull and bagagem to trip, Nice vídeo and I nerd to translate for portugueses com Brasil, Natal , Rio Grande do Norte! Tank's - sorry my english, ok
What is the support device under the rear wheel? Thanks.
idk why the first 5 seconds remind me of dong demuro
What does bike weigh with whole set up?
What is the total weight Si?
Links to the products would be much appreciated :)
33/33...hahahahahahahahahahaha. Love it.
Is the reason for tire clearance difference between 1x and 2x is tires wider than 47mm will touch the front derailleur ?
The tire probably touches the chain.
How did you get all the clothes in that front bag!?
Very nice. How much is it? 10k?
I'm looking for a saddle bag like that just to put a spare bibs and jersey, paor of slippers and rain jacket. is it too overkill? I'm using it for commuting to work, I sweat a lot, so I needed to change to another set of bib and jersey when riding back home from work, takes about one and a half hour
Yeah go for it! Better than a backpack for a lot of people.
Can i use the zipp 303 firecast rims with gravel tyres?
@ 4:00 what’s the reason for running the tyres super soft? I’m new to cycling and I don’t understand that if someone could explain please
when is your buddy going to let you carry cook system.