Did the Suns end the Super Team era forever?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- On The Stephen A. Smith Show, Smith gives you his renowned point of view, breaking barriers beyond the world of sports, and tackling pertinent issues across entertainment, pop culture, society, business, and politics. Three times a week, you'll hear his LIVE unfiltered opinions on the day's biggest headlines as well as straight-shooting interviews with top celebrities, game-changers, and thought leaders across the societal arena.
The Stephen A. Smith Show is sure to entertain, inform, and motivate anyone who tunes in.
KD should never be mentioned in the same sentence as lebron again.
Ever
Yeah, hes way better than that crybaby 🥱
On God he not even better than Steph 😂
Neither should be mentioned anymore at all. they both only won when they went to a stacked team and both have choked while on stacked teams. they are good players but neither are in any way close to goat discussion
@PolandSOulx this is a more sensible debate for lebron. I can make sense of debates of him and other regular players. makes more sense.
Just here for the typo
Fr
wtf was it trying to say lol
Nevermind it’s just an extra R lol
Booker is not Kobe please quit saying that 😂😂😂😂
Kobe S Stephen A kept calling him man please
Better
@@Avenue77 Indeed. Booker is unproven. High upside, but I don't foresee 5 championships in Booker's future WHATSOEVER!
lmao, I knew that comparison was dogwater when that video of him complaining about getting double teamed by randoms in a pickup game came out.
Exactly!!! Not even close🙄
I love watching super teams fail. We want competitive games, not wealthy owners flexing their money by hiring multiple superstars with the intent to steamroll other teams. A real team with depth >>> 3 superstars and scrubs
Very well said ! 💯
💯
I’m glad the Suns lost and HOPEFULLY it closes the door on the super team era.
Super teams that actually are built with the proper role players are more entertaining than a team of depth and 1 all nba player
Me too man that's why I love when lebron loses he creates ALL of his teams after that first Cleveland and still lost all those times 😮
@@Ac3BadgerAGREED
The NY media would have KD creating thousands of burning accounts 😂😂😂
Doubt it, he already played for Brooklyn.
@@OG-COLD-N-SOLIDNot a comparison
@@fahadkhan5721 How old are you?
@@OG-COLD-N-SOLIDHe's right, Its not the same.
Warriors superteam draft majority of their players its totally different compared to Miami,Nets and the Suns
Exactly, these noobs don’t get that and try make false narrative
Agreed! haters just don't really get it that drafted players are not the same as the one's signed or traded players is
SO wat yall ppl always saying bs like tht wen a FRANCHISE IS NOT EVEN LOYAL TO A PLAYER YALL EXPECT A PLAYER TO LET A FRANCHISE CONTROL THEY CAREER HELL NO
The new CBA was literally written because the warriors were a superteam with KD that ruined the league. They literally had 2 MVPs 4 HOF all stars in their prime (5 with igoudola) if they defined it as a superteam then they are
Yeah Iggy was old and Steph, Draymond & Klay were all drafted and developed by the Warriors as Draft Picks. KD was the only one that joined.
They should have let monty williams stayed there
Ayton
Suns front office needs to take the full blame for their downfall rn. That was so apparent to most fans that this was never gonna work with KD… simply dumb to have destroyed all the progress they had made over the last 5-6yrs by adding KD. Bro they went to the finals with CP and Book leading he way with that solid, balanced team, like what is the logical fkn reason to make those big abysmal moves?
Just say it fire vogul
Y’all don’t know by now every nba team builds a team up with black coach for cheaper and then bring in white coach
@@ROSH1503nah CP3 was aging and if the goal of a team is to win a chip, then you make that move. The problem however was when they decide to trade all their assets for Beal who had the worse contract which prevents them from getting role player. Trading for Nurkic hurts to though they got out of Ayton terrible contract
The problem with Durant is he just wants to be one of The Guys but not The Guy.
I love KD's game, but this is spot on
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf The Big 3 era began long before Kg my brother. Boston had a big 3 before Kg was even in Boston with Parrish McHale and Bird.
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf I agree with you on the evolution. This era is full of players who look the part but lack the motor.
They don't want to enhance their legacies, they just want to be paid.
A lot of the injuries these guys incur come from lack of weight training, stretching and conditioning. Evolution would mean they're surpassing the guys of the past and playing multiple 82 game seasons. Very few of them do it now.
So yes they need deeper rosters.
Pat Riley just went off last week about guys commitment and availability.
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf Where did you say LeBron was smart for resting previously I don't see it. Are you adding on as you go?
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lf They have to play 82 games because they need the revenue.Salary Caps are going up, The NFL is smoking them in revenue. Owners are buying stadiums, and TV networks are trying to buy all of their TV rights. They have to play all 82. Also you hurt the leagues legacy and completely change the history books if you start shortening seasons. These players are over incentivised to play at this point. It's not a birthright for them to be in this league it's a privilege.
KD is just Carmelo Anthony - great individual player but without GS.. Kevin Durant is simply not that guy as it relates to team success. Winning with a 73-9 team with 3 HOF's already on it .. all in their prime isn't impressive at all.
Bro.... when you put it like that #perspective
I told someone this yesterday 💯 , he’d just be another prolific scorer with a MVP
I think Durant is a better defender than melo ever was. But yes, when you compare Durant to Lebron and curry, it’s like comparing melo to Lebron and Wade.
well I mean kd before joining golden state had more success than carmelo, he made the nba finals in 2012 while melo never did that
They really need to stop giving sneaker deals to these players who stink in the playoffs
downgrade them to socks deals
I only want to see sneaker deals for Superstars, the top 7-10 players in the league
Everyone wants to marvel at Anthony Edwards game but to me his best quality is the leadership he’s showing at this age. It’s crazy! Congrats on your first playoffs win! 🎉🐺
Warriors, bulls was built from bottom to top that’s why they’re legacy together are much longer and more chemistry.
I just hope that this wolves team can do the same!
Wish they stop with these Kobe and MJ comments. First, it was Devin, Tatum, Zion, Ja, and now Edwards.
Also jimmy butler 😂
Been since back in the day to with Vince and tmac. It’s not gonna stop.
sorry if it bothers you but edwards reminds me of MJ
@@jeffreymerlino4613how he hasn’t done anything to prove that 😂
Edward’s is a little MJ rn bro forget the rest just look at ANTMAN
i mean to be fair, they should've have let Monty Williams stay in Phoenix, let's not forget this man coached a 64 win team literally 2 years ago, he would've never have led this big 3 super team fail this bad
If he turns Detroit into a playoff team, the Suns will be on death watch
They kicked him out for Ayton, just to get rid of Ayton
I swear he went on this whole rant just to try to get KD On the Knicks
😂
KD should have stayed with GS
fr
I agree but I’m glad he didn’t because ima lebron fan 😂
@@jamesglover4731 factssss🤣
Then he would of always been in curry’s shadow.
They didn't want to pay him off injury he didn't trust them after he got hurt forcing him back in the finals where klay got hurt got paid as a free agent cause they drafted him and green wanted to get paid...and it was curry team and the fans never loved kd...it hurt his image
I think it's safe to say that without a super team for KD to join that is established and knows how to play winning basketball, KD isn't that dude.
Says you ? lol who are you ?
Denver isn't a super team but that team would be unstoppable with kd.
I agree
Lol 😂 who are u
If KD did stay with Golden state he would have 4 o5 rings.
The way he did OKC was so dirty and nasty he's paying the price in reputation, respect, and legacy even though he got his "championships"
The great news for American Basketball is that it wasn't PHX fault. It's back to defense Where MN has to play twice as hard as these iso superstars. This is the path to leading world basketball again. Stifling defense is a blast to watch
Suns were good when Steve Nash played. This team was good but couldn't keep the energy
Yes! Him and Barbosa 😊
he’s the reason why i started to watch NBA games. huge fan of steve nash 🤞🏼
Steve Nash was the reason I got into NBA Live. Used to light niggas up at the 3 when he was on the Mavs
I loved the 7 seconds or less Suns. Too bad Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili were in the same conference 😢
Suns and Clippers are cursed franchises, they'll never get a ring
Ive never seen a big 3 super team fail this bad
bro Brooklyn with KD, kyrie, harden, and a couple of other ppl like
@@RavagHeri’m surprised the clippers lasted this long
@@Citylife_90they’re getting a “pass” because they’re never healthy and the owner is saying after every season “next year when we’re healthy”…but that shit never gonna happen.
Brooklyn KD, Harden, and Kyrie.
@@RavagHeryou mean Blake Griffin and D Jordan right? “Couple others” diminishes that
PLZ NO DURANT TO KNICKS PLZ NOOOOOOOOO
And they need to stop saying OKC got picks and room...man let them young bulls do work
Why? Knicks fans have been waiting for him to join since 2019.
@@Tutankamion196 too expensive and have to give up too much...
Or Lebron.
But super team era died with the end of KD warriors, facts!
Knicks could offer Randle + 2 first round + 1 second round for KD
Would be a nice number two option as long as he realized brunson is the lead DOG
@@mewchuking8639 I don’t think he has problem accepting it.
@@mewchuking8639KD would have no problem just doing his job with Brunson as the lead dog.
KD is a role player with superstar talent. That is what it comes down to. The best “plug and play” player to every do it. Situation has to be perfect for him to succeed. If it has to be built and have to go through a grind, he’s not the guy that.
Best said I totally agree he not a leader to build a team up like Kobe lebron Jordan people who didn’t have the best team at all times and still delivered he just not that
Cap, OKC KD could have easily won a ring if he didn't run into 2 teams that won multiple championships.. then this wouldn't be topic yall overrate championships KD has lead every team he's been on to the playoffs, it's funny how they will blame everyone around lebron for his failures 😂 but KD gets the blame no matter what even tho Beal played like garbage this whole year, also KD lead that Golden state team to 2 titles being back to back finals mvp, 😂😂😂 you smoking if you think you can just plug any superstar in with a prime Curry and Klay and he out performs both of them..
He would fit almost anywhere but he aint built different. Hed fit in many all time starting fives bc he can just play off ball and has the skillset
@Ycbandz Stop it, its literally a 73-9 team and a Heat super team to only stop KD from winning in OKC..
Durant should’ve went to the Knicks but it’s a *’stigma’* so he chose Brooklyn smh if only he went to the Knicks and was still there then he would UNDOUBTEDLY have a ring or more with Brunson, OG and Randle!!! No debate!
He should've gone there and win for the city!😢
Exactly!!!
@@jayc5756 Durant had left that opportunity slipped away!😢🗽
He's going to the trade table..I believe, that Phoenix franchise is a dud!💣😝, Durant needs time to think things carefully!🙄
Brunson most likely would not have happened if Durant had gone there.
@@turtleislandchief Yeah.. that sucks!😞
Swept twice since leaving the warriors don’t leave that out
Highway robbery, Beal getting $50 mil and no trade clause. Smh Teams should learn from this. Giving away half your team away for one star is not worth it. Lakers did the same thing for Westbrook. They are still paying for that bad decision.
Come on SA. KD only won those 2 chips bec he went to a 73-9 team. What has he done since? Nothing!
At least Bron and nem got rings to show for KD about to build another super team… which is pathetic
There was never anything Super or Big Three about them. Only thing special about them was Nurkic getting dropped by Draymond
It’s not the end of the super team era, the league just has too much talent for super teams to truly be effective like they were. This isn’t the 90s where there are like 4 good teams. Every single team with the exception of Orlando and Portland has an all time caliber young player. Ja, Trae, Luka, Edwards, Booker, Wembanyama, Giannis, Jokic, Tatum, Shai, Embiid etc etc Too much talent for a big 3 super team to dominate, but a big 5? Now that’s the only thing that’s gonna work
Paolo is him. Such a casual.
You had me like WTF for a minute with that Anthony Davis mess up 😂
Trade that would be a win-win for the Phoenix Suns and the Atlanta Hawks:
The Phoenix receive Trae Young (along with Bruno Fernando and Garrison Mathews).
The Atlanta Hawks receive Kevin Durant.
We should just accept that young players are coming up and kicking the asses of the 30-year-old.
I’ll never understand why the media try’s to say the heat started the super team culture. 😭😭. This has been a thing since the beginning of time, and will continue to always be a thing
You're better off with 1 superstar and bunch of great teammates around him. Like when Kawahi was at Toronto, Yiannis with the Bucks (before Dame), Jokic with Denver. You get a better balance and more options. The cost of assembling the trio at Phoenix cost them their dept and with injuries and lack of playing time together it ended how it ended. Media gets star struck by the names but you need other players not just superstars in the playoffs, just look at the Lakers where their 2 superstars have a great game but they still lose.
Lakers don’t have two superstars
I don’t think kd should be blamed for losing series. Booker was off all series,except for game four.Beal scored I think 9 in game four, while kd scored 30 multiple times during this series.Grayson was injured, and nurk was…well..nurkic. Minnesota was just a Bette team plain and simple
The clippers has Paul George, James Harden , Russell Westbrook & Kawhi Leonard
What’s rediculous is him calling Grayson Allen out when he didn’t finish games 1 or 2 anyway
Big 3's only work when the 3 best players are willing to do the dirty work that wins games, not just score.
Seems that Kevin Durant is making bad NBA 🏀 decisions unfornately ya'll maybe he should think about going too the LAKERS and playing with Lebron James. Would ya'll kats think about it🤔?
Gotta give up too much for him he’s 35 although Kd is still putting up numbers it’s risky
That actually work since kd would take all the shots bron is too scared to take
Super team attempts will never go away. Suns were just dumb to think Beal was the star they needed
Hopefully superteam shit is over with
🤡
KD is a 2 time CHUMPion
Kevin Durant has lost the edge and caliber of player he was before coming to Phoenix. His skill set now makes him a role player and no longer a “Super Star.” Finally, the teams with the younger stars are pushing out the stars of the past. 😢
He's still a Allstar
The Celtics are a superteam. The Nuggets are as well.
The difference is, they're a well built superteam, instead of a patchwork superteam like PHX.
Boston has 4 all star caliber players, with an elite 2 way SG. That's how you build a superteam. Not just stacking up big names and expect to outshoot others.
The term "SuperTeam" has lost its meaning. SuperTeams are the NBA All-Star team and Team USA (Varsity not JV). Its a Team consisting of all the best players at every position. Now a days we just have Teams with at least 2 Stars. Now the GSW is a team that was built through the draft, each player already had a role. With a system that was already in place. They added KD which was a perfect fit. Because his game was instantly plug and play. Another team was the Toronto Raptors when they added Kawhi. Same situation, they had a Team that was defined by roles with a system already in placed. The Nets and Suns just simply stacked Stars and thought it could replicate the GSW & Raptors success. You need players to fill in roles other than scoring. The years the GSW won was because they were a top 5 defensive team. Defense won them Chips. The scoring was always there but if they can't defend they're dead. People were mad KD joined the GSW was simply because they knew it was a perfect fit. But had they lost or did not win a title. They'll just be another Suns & Nets team. But they did win. Folks got mad. Easy way out? Nah smart way. Why? Because KD was FORCED to play defense. Ever since he left GS, he doesn't play the same defense anymore. Something people don't talk about.
Everyone should apologize to Chuck. He was right all along
Him leaving Steph for Kyrie should’ve worked if the Nets didn’t trade all their key pieces for Harden.. I really believe they would’ve won a ring if not 2.. idk why they would assume KD and Kyrie isn’t enough scoring to where yeah let’s trade everybody for James Harden.. makes no sense
I don't think Devin Booker is worth 49 mill a year.
Booker I can say he do worth it, but Beal on the other hand heck no he doesn’t worth $50 mil
personally i think grayson allen was thriving because of the open shots he gets from the attention on kd and booker but the series phoenix had to work for everything
Bro stop telling people to go to the knicks😂
I frigin hope so
You can still have super teams but the three superstars can’t all be great at the same thing and play no defense . That’s what made the Warriors so great. Their three superstars all fit perfectly together. Klay was off the ball and played elite defense. KD could play on or off the ball and play elite defense. Curry was the Point God. This big three in PHX? Who is playing defense? Not 37 year old KD post Achilles injury. Not Booker, Not Beal, who?
It’s amazing how often these don’t work, underwhelm or just don’t last long. I mean even Miami’s and Golden State’s were only 3-4 years.
Gotta remember when he left Curry it was also with a torn Achilles. He’s playing better than anyone could have thought after that injury.
He making top dollar money, so the expectation on him is the same as other top players in the league. Bringing up his injure history, is the same as bringing up Lebron is 39 yo, either they are still a superstar that deserve their money, or they fell short.
Im actually glad super teams are going away or at least becoming less popular. Its more dope to see super stars stay with the team that drafts them.
I actually liked the suns roster. In 2k im def cooking with them but IRL they don’t play with a plan keep ISOing
In recent years, the Raptors, the Bucks and the Nuggets have proven you don't need superteams. It's good enough to have one star and surround them with great starters and a deep bench.
if Lebron forced the Lakers to trade him to Denver and they won two chips and he bragged about having as many as Jordan. NOBODY WOULD RESPECT THOSE RINGS SO WHY RESPECT KD’s 😂
we can say the same about Lebum when he was playing for Miami
Even with Draymond on the team, I have a feeling that if Klay doesn't get that devastating injury, KD would've stay. He was chasing rings and basically choose what he thought the next superteam would be.
The landscape of the NBA would be really interesting right now if KD never went to the warriors. Does Klay get injured and decline like he did? Does Kyrie, Love, and Bron have more chips? Do the clippers still get Kawhi and George? Does KD ever see a NBA finals again?
You can't be called a super team if you don't win anything. The 1969 Lakers were supposedly a super team, yet they still lost to the Celtics in the finals. And again in 1970 to the Knicks.
😆 who cares. 50 years ago. Tell us about wild wild west and the untamed frontier too
The media is something else I never considered Beal or Booker Superstars. They are 7/10 ratings at best.
KD booker and Beal
Are bigger than
Lebron AD and Russel?????
Beal had the most horrible game last night not only did he foul out but lost the ball numerous times during the game man did he cost me in DFS last night
The funniest thing about the super teen critique outside of Kevin Durant and his chasing is that the NBA is at it’s best when there’s a dynasty and the number prove it
This is Kevin Durant 4th super team
Couldn’t disagree more. Those yrs everyone knew it would be warriors cavs just about eliminated 80% of NBA fans from having deep interest in their own teams. I remember not really caring about regular season or what my team did. The west was a wrap every yr
the lebron warriors era was BORING AF. We know cavs and warriors were playing at the start of every season and aside from the 2016 series lebron always lost
@@errwhaaaaaahe's only had 2.
He should have joined lebron after leaving golden state, he would have gotten 2020 and maybe 1 more ring. Then double down and said he was the bus driver 😂
I sure hope so but never underestimate Lebron to pick KD and Steph to make another one
No the rules killed it. The rules around luxury tax appron(sp) and the rules around moving max contracts.
And guys taking max money
3 all-star caliber players don't mean it's a super team esp when the third star isn't even on that level anymore it's how good the team as a whole is that makes it super
You can’t have 2 let alone 3 scorers without a pg. It’s literally their job.
The showtime Lakers were a super team. 3 HOF in the starting lineup
KD didn't leave steph, he left draymond let's be real
Thing about super teams is they actually require good role players to take less $$
They need to convince a bunch of role players to sacrifice like suckers for an easy ring
The difference is the Miami heat trio took a pay cut to get the squad. Suns players didn’t take a pay cut
SA cut the BS, you all crucified KD for joining Golden State, you then chastised him for joining Brooklyn. KD is an all time great, enjoy the greatness that he has given us. Most superstars and stars never win rings. KD is all time, and I don’t look at him any different.
Casuals: I hate Super Teams.
LeBron and KD Fans: Define a super team.
Casuals: A team with three future hall-of-famers in their primes.
LeBron and KD Fans: So, the 96' Bulls were a super team?
Casuals: No!
LeBron and KD Fans: The 08' Celtics? With Garnett, Allen, Pierce, and Rondo?
Casuals: No!
LeBron and KD Fans: You have no earthly clue what a super team is.
People always forget that Boston started the super team first in 2008 with KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce…
Durant gonna have the record for playing with all the best players of our time.!
The super team strat with, MJ, Rodman and Pippin. Not Miami Heat,
“Hath seen thy death, and thy glory. Rthe death of thy super teamus.” 😂😂😂
He caught me off guard with that he a fool( DAT AINT THE PROBLEM) 😂😂😂
The superteam era ended in Brooklyn with KD, Harden and Kyrie
Pocket watching smh especially from a troll that didn't make it
Stephen A is a millionaire and famous 🤷🏽♂️
I’m pretty sure San Antonio was a super team. Tim Tony Manu off the bench was nasty
Kevin Durant in hindsight knows he should have stayed with golden state and he'll probably never admit that publicly but inside he knows that.
KD should go back to OKC.
Moves to another competitive team and returns to where it all began to give him a shot at redemption, doesn't need to be the out and out scorer, Suns restock their draft capital, OKC becomes a title contender.
You ain't a super team if you don't have a big man. Imagine the Avengers without Hulk and Thor. The X-Men without Colossus. The Justice League without Superman. Fantastic Four without the Thing.
The way people are hating on Kevin Durant is proof that so many people don't actually understand the game of basketball. It's more than just ability. It's the way a team is constructed. It's the way they are managed. It's the execution of offense and defense. It's comradere within the team. Kevin Durant is a great player who had the same problem that LeBron had for years and that is he spent way more time than he should have on teams that were not setup to win. LeBron didn't get on a truly complete team until he went to Miami. The Cavs were good at defense and had a solid enough support players that if you had a character that was an average 35 per game player you could survive in the weak eastern conference.
But they would then get destroyed by a complete team that is well coached, has great comradere, and at least 3 guys that average 30 per game. All of Lebron's rings happened when this was the case. KD in OKC almost had this type of team but the weakness was that you couldn't have all 3 between KD, Harden and Westbrook in the game at the same time and then Westbrook is a ball dominant Point Guard. This weakness can be and was exploited. So when he went to Golden State that is when he finally got a ring as he became the 3rd key scorer after Steph and Klay with Draymond Green then acting as the 6th man and best defender.
The injures is the reason that he didn't win more with them; and the fact that Draymond is a prick is the reason that he ultimately left that team. Since then he dealt with further injuries, teammates with their own lingering injuries in the playoffs or has been on rosters where he is only 1 of 2 key 30 point per game average scorers when you need at least 1 other and a 25 avg per night person. (The 3rd scorer threat of these last couple Phoenix teams never actually pulled such a thing in the playoffs during his time.) The Timberwolves have 3 primary scorers in Ant, Kat and Rudy. They have a 6th man stretch 5 in Naz Reid. They have a solid guards in Conley and Jayden. They are well coached, have great chemistry and have a solid bench. Plus everyone is healthy. Phoenix never stood a chance unless the Timberwolves shot themselves in the foot with poor execution. The idea that it's the biggest collapse and embarrassment in NBA History to lose to such a team is an insult to this Timberwolves Squad. I have been saying it to people all year that they are not a joke and people are going to find out the hard way when the beat downs start happening.
The only way KD gets a shot at a ring now is to take a pay cut so Phoenix can build the roster or he takes a pay cut and somehow goes either to Miami, The Bucks or back to Golden State. It's a wrap otherwise. Play out the remainder of your career KD and retire knowing that you got at least 1 ring despite being good enough to have warranted more than the 2 you actually got.
Lbj the only one that could do it. KD killed it
Anthony Edwards is that DUDE 🤷🏽♂️
Its been 2 weeks without updating the thumbnail unc, cmon now
Gotta fix that thumbnail
Suns have no bench
Neither does Denver
They got royce but before then yeah..gordon started due to injuries and the bench was nothing
@@MIDNightPT4I mean braun jackson watson is enough
KD is elite. This was Booker and Beal’s fault
$150 million just getting swept is insane. 😂
KD without Steph is as useless as Russ without KD when he left OKC😂
I've heard SAS say Heat was not a superteam not too long back...and now he is saying they was super...that's sus 🤨🤔
SAS is so butt hurt, he got Anthony Edwards and AD confused.