China and Russia: An Unlikely Brotherhood
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Lanxin Xiang - China and Russia: An Unlikely Brotherhood
The China Initiative hosts Lanxin Xiang for a conversation about China-Russia relations. This talk is part of a series moderated by Visiting Professor of International and Public Affairs Lyle Goldstein, “China-Russia Relations and the Future of World Order.”
Lanxin Xiang is Director of the Institute of Security Policy at China National Institute for SCO International Exchange and Judicial Cooperation, Shanghai, PRC; Professor Emeritus at the Graduate Institute of International Development Studies, Geneva; Research Fellow at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at the Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University; Senior Fellow at the Stimson Center, and a former Kissinger Chair at the Library of Congress.
America wants Russia to be an oil patch and a mining camp and China to be one big industrial park and wants neither of them to develop as independent and vibrant countries. That is how free market capitalism works for America, you just do what you are best at and let us reap all the benefits.
AmeriKKKa, a RACIST 3rd-world nation, a very dangerous animal to world peace, freedom, democracy, prosperity
Spot on!! That's why Africa has never developed. European countries just want to reap the benefits and do as they wish everywhere in the world. The west is so mad to see China surpassing them in many fields nowadays despite the sanctions and bans.
@Robert Blando You missed some 'KK's', its spelled Ameri-KKK-a
Yep, the conflicts starts when China was trying to move up the value chain.
There is no example of free market capitalism in any of these three countries. If you think that's wrong... Read Adam Smith for the definition.
They’re brothers in arms now and Anglophone Fascists’ greediness caused it. So thank you for that. Because they’re the hopes of abused, bullied and suppressed nations
fully agreed 😊
Me too. 👏👏👏👏
Not to mention the silent majority having to swallow the Trans nonsense or crazy family set ups.
Every victim of civil crime and lawlessness which is not in China or Russia.
@@787maggie China done no other country had done before by standing up against Anglophone bullying and getting away with it. Anglophone Fascism has tried Hong Kong, Taiwan unsuccessfully and they’ll try Uyghurs not that they care Muslim Uyghurs but to stop China become competitor to themselves. Hopefully China will put them in their place
Do you have any idea what Fascism is? How is it Fascist to sympathize with people who want freedom?
"Far relatives not as good as near neighborhood"
Russian and Chinese have deep understanding.
Yes. Right now the relationship looks like that a fat cat to a plague infested rat. China is about to eat Russia.... Wake up.
It is so refreshing to hear experts from other countries rather than to the simple opinions and guesses from our own columnists.
what kept you from hearing from them? is someone else in charge of your keyboard?
@@secretbassrigs Or hear me out, "free and independent" media aren't keen on airing views of others. Not rocket science
the answer are so rare nowday. thank you for invite him. his answer definitely gave new dimension from east perspective.
The West were the ones that talk about nuclear
It's literally Putin threatening it
How so ?
He lost me when he said Putin's reckless nuclear policy .... for a clever bloke you'd think he'd know .
Putin has NEVER threatened to use nuclear weapons ....
what he did say was ""ïf the West wants to use nuclear weapons just remember we have them too .
Not quite right, Putin said on the ieve on "SMO" !f West gets involved they will see a response never before seen in history. I would interpret that as a nuclear threat
Glad somebody raised this fact, that Putin NEVER threatened to use nuclear weapons…what you pointed out in how he said it is EXACTLY as is.. well done Sir/Madam.
He made a fool from himself when he dived in military issues - he also said "Russian military is backward" when, in real life, Russian military is decades ahead of Chinese lol - chines subs are decades behind russians or western ones, missiles are a generation behind, and the same go for aviation...
He's an Anglophile, famous for being so in China so don't expect more from him
🇨🇦 Thanks for the very informative discussion.
Right to the point, well-balanced and unbiased analysis by Professor Xiang. He really knows what he's talking about.
Henry Kissinger: "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
🤣🤣And what is so fatal with the USA friends UK , Germany and France ?! 🤣🤣🤣 Probably Venezuela and Cuba are very good?!🤣🤣🤣
You mean colonized vassals not friends.
America has made many terrible mistakes in my life time, but let's face facts: Would you rather be a citizen of South Korea or a slave in North Korea? Would you have rather been a citizen in West Germany or whatever it was that you were in East Germany? American are too self-centered and too ignorant of the world outside her borders to be an effective world power but few nations have ever fought sincerely for human rights which America often has, even though the rights of the humans were not well served. Without America it is quite likely that Europeans would be speaking not German but Russian. it is easy to criticize America, I've spent most of my 78 years doing it (starting with the hideous cluster### of the Viet Nam War), but what is China's human right's policy? Last time I checked China has none. The whole world sees how Russia values human life by the unforgivable daily war-crimes in Ukraine. I am an American citizen although not a big flag waver. In fact, I have not been in America for 12 years. I think it would be good to make sense when discussing the relative treats to world security. The comments should fit within the context of facts both good and bad for America's reputation.
@Georgi Stoynov The U.S. blew up the nord stream pipeline, which was a lifeline to the German economy, just to make sure Germany never developed positive relations with Russia and to keep Germany under the U.S. influence. That's how dangerous it is to be "friends" with the U.S.
@@joeyfotofr The U.S. backs many dictatorships around the world, many of them in the middle east, and the people there live in poverty.
Why do you think the Iranians revolted against the Shah in 1971 and antiwestern regime came to power? To remove the Shah that was reinstated after removing the elected Mohammad musaddegh by western backed coup in 1956. The U.S. removes elected governments when it doesn't suit them, and backs dictatorships when it suits them, all that bs about democracy and freedom is nothing more than lies and dust in the eyes, ask the half a million children in Iraq about their freedom.
A rare opportunity to hear a sane, well-informed and articulate analysis of the subject. Thank you to the host for organising such a informative and enjoyable session. Needs a lot of guts to be politically incorrect - but honest.
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Excellent talk. An eye opener.
For all his credentials - the professor has a lot of inaccurate information regarding Russian military success and China's view of this. I think he has been tainted by the western academic crowd.
Because he's a Anglophile - many of such in China and these people tend to trust mainstream English information sources more than anything!
I'd rather watch the Duran channel and the new atlas channel regarding the Russo-Ukraine war and the Russian military than this
russia can supply most fuel and food neds. china can provide goods and tech. also help develop industry.
Russia is decades ahead of China in military tech ( nukes, missiles, submarines, etc - even if prof. Lanxin seems to have no clue about such facts, yet he comments about, inventing BS...) and Russia can help China build modern submarines and missiles, in exchange for chips manufacture tech...
And they can trust each other against USUK warmongers thus save themselves from being invaded and robbed by them.
America just got a hard lesson in how fragile democracy is. If China was there economy would thrive.
Over forty years ago it was predicted that the dragon and the bear would come together and conquer the eagle
But no one thought the dragon would be so much stronger than the bear
of course the Dragon may experience another "Mao Revolution" - if their economy melts and the 'hardcore commies leadership' will have to deal with the internal chinese economic issues for decades !
and then of course The Eagle can make a deal with with The Bear ( for the natural resources alone ! ) - post UKRaine Era .... 🙂
Great talk and interview. Very insightful. Great respect for both gentlemen.
agreed
Birds of the same feathers flocks together for survival. They always cling together when their basic existence is threatened
I believe PEACE is possible only if the leadership in any one government possesses people with high intelligence and with great integrity
It cannot be Biden .............................🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@@yliang1688
It cannot be Trump either.
Therefore it cannot be in the US at this time.
Especially Integrity. That's most important if there's to be trust.
@@kwokholuk8723 At least Trump said in 2019 to Zelensky: "Talk with Putin". That's a start.
So far Biden had never such intention.
CHINA , A VERY MATURED
NATION WITH THOUSAND--YEARS HISTORY FROM POVERTY
AND STRIFE TO PROSPERITY, STABILTY AND RESPECTIVITY.
China is in a wonderful
Relationship with Russia,
Japan, Korea, France , Germany and ASEAN,
especially with Singapore.
There is,problem only with
Taiwan.
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and Hong Kong and India and Japan and Vietnam
China's problem with Taiwan is only with the US meddling and its puppet party there.
@@tonym842 Really, so Taiwan's government actions of independence and self governance are completetly ok? Like Hong Kong?
Where there is American where there are conflicts, hatred and shadow of wars.
China knows if Russia loses, they will be targeted next by US aggression.
China and Russia signed treaty of good neighborliness and friendly cooperation in 1991 and renew that in 2021. Both have some kind of brotherly relations.
yeah, Xiang has a strong tendency to please the West audience and pretend he is better than ordinary Chinese instead of giving them the straight pill.
Yea, brotherly... Like Cain & Abel.
The moderator is certainly toeing the neoliberal imperialist line (isn’t getting anywhere, though)😊
A friend in need is a friend indeed!
Russia seems to use minimal force in order to gradually reconquer Ukraine without introducing too much firing power at this stage.
Also in order to make EU tired and broke by prolonging the war. The war ended the moment Ukraine ran out of its weapon stock. Currently it’s ongoing because Ukraine is borrowing the weapons but Russia will use war of grinding and attrition. Ukraine military morale is getting down slowly and the conflict within the ranks is slowly increasing. Watch general Zulijini take over
This is one of the few apt comments here. Rather than Russia's Army being a dismal failure at this point, they have been steadily achieving their objective of demilitarization. What nobody has mentioned is that the SMO demonstrates the power of the S-300 air defense in the hands of Ukraine, because even in a degraded condition it has still prevented the Russian air force from doing a US style bombing campaign to reduce fortified targets such as Bakhmut.
Russia is simply spanking Ukraine for taking US guns and killing ethnic Russians. Russia has no need to 'conquer' Ukraine. Ukraine is a corrupt third-world country good for mail-order-brides. Americans want them, but Russian women are way better. So why would Russia want this corrupt backward country. Once Russia has spanked all the US-guns out of Ukraine, they will leave it alone (but make sure Americans cannot re-enter).
This talk conforms my own perception of why the two very different cultures and neighbours hold their relationship well. Sincerity in solving border problems and respecting each other's red lines. Of course, sometimes there may be disagreements but even husbands and wives do let alone two bug countries with a long border.
Well stated. But China's respect for sovereignty and international law goes beyond just Russia though, it extends even to their longtime rival India. With ongoing land disputes, its astounding how both civilizations are able to put aside their enmity and agree at the very least on troop disarmament on the borders, using sticks and makeshift physical weapons instead. And that I think is a key understanding to China that the US somehow missed, deliberately or otherwise.
What has become increasingly clear is 1) the growing nervousness of US in confronted with another superpower state 2) need to create a boogeyman entity to satiate the weapons industry and soothe primary domestic issues on racial violence, housing shortages and income inequality.
your translation app is terrible.
@@accountantthe3394 , Your micro focus and shallow logic using obtuse fallacies as a ploy to put the focus on the US as the bad guy is apparent to everyone but you and those you work with and for under the Ministry of State Security. THE TRUTH IS, VLADIMIR PUTIN AND XI JINPING HAVE THE SAME GOALS OF RELABELING AND LEGITIMIZING THEIR TYRANNICAL AND BANKRUPT RECORDS AS POLITICAL LEADERS. They both see the conquering of sovereign nations, Ukraine and Taiwan, as their tools to actually do the distracting, the actual satiating and soothing of abject domestic conditions they are each responsible for creating, not as you speciously projected such onto the US.
Today Russia and China have become international spectacles of catastrophic policy failures the whole free world can easily recognize. In contrast, Putin and Xi can only continue to portray the people of Russia and China as being still too corrupt, incompetent and morally inferior to be able to enjoy basic liberties such as freedom of information and freedom of speech responsibly, unlike the rest of humanity is able to.
Your projections of PRC China's actual nefarious activities onto the US are textbook wumao state propaganda tactics of false equivalency propaganda. The government creating boogeymen to distract from its true evil intents is your CCP occupied government, not the US government. Every US executive administration has always honored the Taiwan status quo agreement between the US and the CCP. Every US executive administration has also always honored Russian sovereignty. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping claiming the opposite is nothing but politically farcical and revealing of how they are desperate to hold on to power by resorting to such shameless tactics. They have committed so many betrayals and sins against their counterparts, they know what they are deserving of from their political victims and peers in Russia and China.
The political alliance between Russia and China are only between Putin and Xi, and it is very weak if not already fractured. Xi Jinping revealed his hand to Putin when he failed to invade Taiwan in coordination with Putin's invasion of Ukraine. He left Putin stranded as the only target of international condemnation, using Putin like a scapegoat to test the alertness and formidability of the free world's condemnation. Xi knew he could benefit his own reputation as a legitimate leader in China in the short term, by imply berating and gaining leverage over Russia and Putin. By simply portraying and glorifying himself as Russia's Han Chinese savior as well as China's, in contrast to modern history, it feeds the narrative keeping him in power in China. Like a typical communist dictator, Xi only proved his narcissism was always his priority over any self preserving alliance or ability to prove being capable of one. It will result in his down fall before Putin's if he decides to invade Taiwan now.
Xi realizes how dependent he will become on Putin if he invades Taiwan now. It will invite a tit for tat failure to commit betrayal from Putin as a last laugh and retribution for Xi's, when the international lens and condemnation is turned and focused on him and China. The economic ramifications from committing a war of aggression against a sovereign nation with so many allies such as Taiwan will only bankrupt the CCP and depriving him of his ability to reward his lapdogs and henchmen in the PLA. The unified revolt against draconian and despotic COVID lockdowns in China should be evidence to you that returning to 1950's social restrictions and government atrocities will not be tolerated by the masses in China anymore. I hope you realize now, you have always been on the side of an ideological war that was always destined to lose.
If there is anything you remember from reading my reply, always remember this, the greatest fool is the fool that dies for a lost cause the day the war ended.
@@secretbassrigs Nah your comprehension is
@@accountantthe3394 nah! You're a meatbot. ,😂👉🇰🇵💩🇨🇳
If there is logics and morality, war shouldn't have no place in the civilised human world. Unfortunately, greed and irrational ideology drives certain powers and the politicians which make the war their strategic choice.
They're neighbours they fight and co-operate they're different in many ways.
Illuminating discussion. Thank you for posting this.
Enjoyed the conversation. Please let's promote more of this and less conflict.
Russia is fighting one of their own hence the confusion being experienced by their military. All Ukrainian migrants to Russia aren’t seen nor mentioned and Russia reacted they way they’re due to the Crimea bridge terrorism attack by punchers of Kiev. Otherwise it’s a completely different war involving two countries whose people are the same or even intermarriages.
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Russia needs a General Sherman, not a McClellan.
This is actually the most common type of conflict. Look at Irish conflicts, look at India-Pakistan, so-called brother people's and "similar" languages/races are quite likely to have conflicts.
you are right on target this speaker is blatanly lying to please his audience and looks smart in front of them really sad
You have wishful thinking that China and Russia aren't friends but more you resist they better friends they become.Quess when you go to Russia you sing deferant stories.
What a way to begin an indoor event
He is wrong in only this by saying two mistakes you are making. s overestimating Chinese military technology and undervaluing Russian combat capability. Recalling only for those who know the reality (and are not enchanted with the western MSM ) that Russia is not using the shock and awe so fashionable for the USA and the war is going slowly because they consider the Ukrainians as family and that is why they are doing everything to prevent deaths among civilians and is only using 20% of its military power. But apparently that is also changing due to the attack on the Crimea bridge and the attack on civilians in Donetsk and Russian border towns.
Literally Russia is guilty of numerous war crimes, rape, torture, targeting of civilian infrastructure. Are you tuned into a different war? Do you not listen to what Russian state media says about the Ukrainians.. from the very beginning? They don't have a right to exist, use nukes on them, calling for more attacks. You are right, the average Ukrainian and Russian considered themselves closely related until Putin decided to attack them with military force, forever dividing the two. Let's not forget Russia attacked Ukraine.. end of story. One aggressor, Ukraine had done nothing to Russia besides seek closer ties with the West opposed to Russia. This does not figure into Putins plan.
@Jason Wagers lol, have you witness what you are accusing Russian Soldiers of? You don't know may be but for Russians the dignity is something we inherit in our blood. So if you are not there, please take your words back. Otherwise the Universe will make you experience in what you are accusing other of!
A lot of the times he's just saying what they want to hear so he doesn't cause tensions in this indoctrinated crowd. They are high on MSM Kool-aid.
@@Majalika War is not dignified
@Landon Tesar so why did you keep your moth shut when the ukraininan government have been killing Russian people in Donbass since 2014? 🤔 we are finishing wars, not beginning. You didn't learn history well
Tianming (the Mandate of Heaven) has been the core philosophy that has defined China throughout history. Its fascinating to me how this is always ignored by so-called "experts" on China.
Over the years I finally realized that individualism, freedom, liberty sounded good but in reality are bunch of ideological hypocrisy. The most important issues facing a society are Justice and prosperity. Tianmin was defined by Western propaganda. Majority of Chines Are happy with their current rulers. If you know Chinese history you’d understand. Let us talk also about the color revolutions all over the world, South American countries’ democratically elected socialism government being subverted and replaced by Western supported dictators and the millions civilians death in Mideast.
But in Chinese society, there is no justice to talk about. One big example is that people have no freedom to move from the countryside to the city or anywhere to anywhere. Nowadays, due to western manufacturing needs, China has a lot of job opportunities so the rule has changed that the countryside peasants can go to work in the city but they don’t have any benefits, not even their children going to schools nearby for the same amount of money as someone who has a city “hukou” (a local resident id). Once they lose the job, they need to go back to the countryside where their “hukou” is. Government owns the land and people who own apartments don’t own the land. Examples like this are countless. Look at the Shanghaier’s COVID restrictions that lasted 2 months: no one was allowed to get out of their buildings. Many died due to not able to get dialysis, surgery, asthma inhalers…… now they suddenly opened up without any preparation. government continues to reject free western vaccine. Old people are dying in droves……crematoriums in many big cities work 24/7 but still have to wait for 10 days. The hospitals are not allowed to categorize patients as COVID for as long as they have any other diseases but most of old people have one thing or another. Now I heard new rules require many to pay for their treatment. Hospitals are like refugee camps. Sick people are in every corner waiting to be seen. Doctors don’t have the means to treat due to lack of medications and equipments. No one writes about all the society’s problems because government controls the press. People’s posts of anything bad got deleted in hours or even minutes. It’s a surveillance country, no freedom or humanity to talk about. This type of society is the result of the worst combination: “tian ming” (dictatorship) and communist ideology (dictatorship plus much more cruelty and controls but in the name of people). This Chinese scholar doesn’t talk about anything the Chinese government does domestically, which I believe is the essence of it all. He paints a decent picture of the Chinese government and blames the American government for getting it all wrong. He sounds like a Chinese government’s mouth piece. Our war is of course the fight between democracy and autocracy. The recent rise of ultra right in different western societies is only a problem of our diversified time. They do not have the power to change our societies. The 2020 US presidential election and 2022 midterm elections are the best proofs. But Russia and China’s aggressions must be stopped, just like in WW2, Germany and Japan were stopped. China and Russia’s relationship is nothing else but based on their desire to conquer and their hate of democratic governments.
@@Carol-vk7wg What about red lining in the US, where black and brown people cannot own a house in white only neighborhoods? What about "driving while black" in the US, where minorities simply cannot drive to certain areas for fear of being killed by the police. The so called "freedom" in the US is a white only freedom...so it is no freedom at all.
@@thefruitofuscolonialism5870 America is a much fairer country than China. It’s ruled by law, not by an individual. No one in the USA has unlimited power like China’s Xi Jingping because there are 3 branches in the government to limit each other’s power. The 3 branches of the government are elected by the American people. Of course, that doesn’t mean a free society like America is perfect with no discriminations at all. There are plenty needs improvement and people can voice themselves. However, there is no such thing as black and brown people can not own a house in the white neighborhoods. I am a Chinese, or none white. I live in a primarily white neighborhood. I saw blacks and Latinos walking by often. I don’t deny that there are self-segregated neighborhoods, meaning a neighborhood contains mostly white or mostly black, but no one can object a purchase of house in a neighborhood of mainly another race openly. ‘Driving while black’ is mainly a complaint from the black people but not everyone agrees with this prospective. For example, I recently watched a documentary where a policeman was interviewed. He said they profile people based on statistics and their records show 77% of the criminal cases in this area were committed by young black males. Therefore, they profile black young men frequently. At least, there is no one in America who is in jail for expressing his or her opinion. There are plenty of TV programs that mock the president. Can you say anything bad about Xi Jingping in China? I can give you many names who said bad things about Xi and they are all in jail fulfilling prison sentences.
@@Carol-vk7wg You need to look carefully where you get your information. You seem to know certain things well, but your ideas about the US fight for democracy and freedom is so so out of point. The current US government does not represent the average American. The US is no longer democratic, but rather kleptocratic.
18:52 very clear and very direct description of Taiwan issue
Brotherhood need not necessarily means two bodies are automatically made to bond closely. In real life, 2 friends could absolutely be closed that nobody could tear them apart. So why can't 2 nations like China and Russia works together?
ancient chinese proverb goes "he who gets himself in sticky situation, must be very careful, but not too nervous, in his explanations that seek to blame his opponents over getting him in a sticky situation!"
Mr. Lanxin Xiang is obviously closely associated with the Confucius institutes now situated right across the west particularly focused on western universities?
That was sticky way of saying that he said what his patrons wanted to hear . . . not the current facts. Example, Russia has a no first use of nukes policy, the US does not. Also, Russia did not bring up nuke discussion, several leaders in the West did, including short lives UK prime minister Theresa May. Russia responded with, we have them too and ours are better than yours.
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Yes,Yes! You are the only decision makers about nations' cooperation and alliance .
World peace is not only possible but it is inevitable; if each big power treats all countries based on justice, sovereignty and equality.
I agree that world peace is possible. I don't know what you mean by "inevitable" but I see a lot of conflict and a great deal of suffering between now and that point where peace is inevitable.
No one mention Lanxin Xiang, in spite of the fact he is providing most of the insight.
Very impressive lecture. It is challenging to understand how Chinese think, but I got a little closer now.
If you want to know how Chinese think, watch some Chinese television.
It will be more interesting if you can learn the Chinese histories from the time of Confucius..
Is not difficult to understand the Chinese. All you westerner need to do is to empty your cup first.
Both China and the west are doing the same thing by doing the opposite of what they're saying publicly 🤣😅
To understand how Chinese think, one has to learn the Chinese culture, philosophy, way-of-life and interact with Chinese people! Prof John Mearsheimer shows his ignorance on China by viewing China through Western glasses! His views on China is no different from typical ignorant redneck neo-cons from Mid-West USA, who are now crowding the White House and pushing Senile Biden to declare war on China! And that is dangerous! But Prof Mearsheimer's views on Europe and America are spot-on!
Putin never talked about the use of nuclear weapons, he has only said it in case NATO uses them. It's USA that always insists on that.
That is a lie. I wish that was true but is it not.
I love this guy
22:51 but Putin never bragged about using nukes preemptively...
The professor is too arrogant. He didn't even try to understand the dynamic of China-Russia relationship in these days. He still lives in the past and has little clue of how geopolitical tide had long before changed dramatically.
That's the problem with the US intelligence. They are operating under the 1992 edition.
Interesting. So what is your view of the China Russia relationship?
Must be hard sitting in front of these indoctrinated and kool-aid intoxicated westerners. He asks about the moral side of Russia bombing Ukraine infrastructure but when U.S. did the exact same thing in the first days of invasion of Yugoslavia where were his morals?
Loaded questions trying to acknowledge western propaganda are disgusting.
That is why he was invited to this gathering.
Maybe you should explain your view of China-Russians relation before accusing him to be arrogant
The comments centred at the world war crisis around the global nations has comprehensively related the affected safety that's security, economy, peaceful relationships and etc. that have been tormenting nations involved. TQVM to all parties participating in the discussions of the critical issues. Their views and opinions are truly insightful with fruitful thoughts for all involving nations to consider for actions to be taken.
No war but class war
@@kevintewey1157 class has always been the only war. Hence,you'll never see Putin and Biden in a boxing ring.
I think many in the US would be happy for China to take out Los Angles.
It is amazing to hold such a frank seminar in today's political atmosphere.
The result of the US China war is that both will lose half a century.
You and I will never have such a good life again.
Very interesting to listen
There are no permanent relationships between nations. There is only a relationship of convenience, mutual benefits & perceived security by leveraging on one another's strength. When this benefit is diminished, relationship will also diminish....
America can learn a lot from the Chinese.
informative. thank you
Russian and Chinese histories have been connected for quite some times through the mongols and communism. They are not as foreign let say as the Americans.
And communism, and Russia helped China win the civil war to become communist. I don't know Russian/Chinese history at all but from what I know they seem to be natural allies especially with the West pushing them together.
When you have shared borders it's not surprising to have war
Henry Kissinger Quote: “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
Thanks to the America, these two become the best partner, sure you don't understand and can't explain it well.
China dont issue empty promise..
I would hope Russia and China can come to a friendlier status. Many Americans seem to think that a bad relationship between China and Russia is somehow beneficial to America, but I do not think this is the case at all. America I.M.O should be patient and guarded with respect for each country.
To be honest at this point who givea feic what either America or England wants. Their time has come and gone. ..Sail on alone together without Europe. Goodbye 👋
@@Give_Peace_a_Chance123 and your attitude demonstrates how you build a very strong coalition.
Quoting Henry Kissinger and praising central bankers....this guy is part of the problem, not the solution. Peace.
Very clever man we should listen to him
Very much valuable analysis, and very helpful to anyone in this matter.
A pretty rare and valuable perspective for us westerners, thank you.
'westerners' enjoyed invading countries, force-converting, killing for quite a while. But China is finally becoming stronger, so 'westerners' will soon be kicked out of Asia. China's friendship with Russia will expedite the process.
Oh my. Not impressed by the questions.... low quality.
He is incorrect. The dispute China has who he called Russian are not of Russian ethnicity but people whose land that Russia annexed later on
Thank you
China--Russian Federation is strengthened by new big nations closing in and expecting to join Shanghai Pacte and also expanding The BRICS economic world markets , by many countries such as N. Korea , Mongolia, Argentina, Indonesia, Iran, Venezuella , Pakistan , Turkey , Qatar , Serbia, Myanmar and Srilanka etc... plus many other new important countries wanting to join together with OPEC--plus joint good relations strengthened very much by Saudi Arabia , Algeria, Nigeria, Venezuella, Iran , Indonesia, Myanmar and others joinning closer to China--Russia stand against USA-NATO-E.U. continued struggle for stiff competetion in order to avoid lack of Energy especially in Oil and gas in near future , when the world is passing through OIL-Peak times , a vital strategic importance for maintaining growth and future sustained endangered growth or depression , as well as zero growth ! Then a more serious matter driving into solid rock alliance for China --Russia relations is The De-Dollarization policy well set-up by both countries and intensified after Ukrain's war , this has a far greater and far more importance than this report is falling short of investigating , for the geostrategic financial crutial matters upheld and observed by all nations in it's practical consequences for the world today !
In my reporting on businesses who seek to diversify production in order to reduce reliance on China, they are having difficulty matching the production competence (even with existing communication and consistency problems) at close to the price, anywhere else in the world. As long as that holds, change will be marginal & manageable for China. Of course, that does offer an opening for a nation or a region with the cultural competence to address massive expansion of production. We'll see...jt
It’s hard if not impossible to find a single country totally replacing China, no way. The best option would be using multiple locations instead of concentrating in a single country like China.
Simple products may be OK to suppliers in a smaller country, but not complicated products.
time for Africa
We're dumping the dollar 💱💱💱💱💱💱💱💱
@@Mike-us1wr What people are not realising or intentionally not seeing is China has spent the best part of 70 odd years speccing itself to manufacture the entire worlds goods! the reason its ports and warehouses and infrastructure is so big..... Chinas goal was to be number 1 at growing itself, that obviously meant doing the best and outbidding outworking the rest..... anybody who has seen the ports and docks of china knows that theyre like huuuge cities!!! you could get lost and end up living there!!
For the West to now suddenly overnight flip 180 is hilarious.... Apple and everyone else has gotten used to a certain quality and quantity..... this would mean a massive from the ground shakeup of western manufacturing process and alignment of 10 different countries just to get the same product and service from china....
the last data that i watched comparing chinas production capacity to the rest of asia china owned the top 3 or 4 places..... the next was i think singapore or malaysia...
to say suddenly have Apples products made in 5 or 10 different places all at varying qualities and delivered at varying times sounds like a nightmare
people are seriously not realising and underestimating the size and scale and just the production of China..... China as the most populous as well as the most productive and well organised with clear aims and targets no dilly dallying
The fact of China has changed the balance of power. Russia gave the chineese a technological pushoff. The Chinese supported at this time the Russian world view. Empower the United Nations and the International Criminal Court.
International institutions like the United Nations and International Law mostly appeal to clever but silly people.
I have no idea what you are even trying to say.
The West should understand that the rules imposed by the. are not Tobe accepted, only rules imposed by UN can only be accepted. The long arm judiciary can not be accepted by others countries but they too arrogant to impose on others.
This is one of the most fascinating conversation I've heard in along time,frist of all this speakers job what' his job tittle an if someone could ask him what is the main function of it in his opinion. I will use one word MOBILITY so in a very funny way this highly important conversation between two supper power's that on one hand has to do billions of dollars of trade I see CONTAINMENT, but for who and which one want it the most?
Ofcourse.. hardly no one in west heard of this sort discussion.
I like Chinese people because they are wise ,family oriented not perverse and have very beautiful slim girls were sweet and loving and the most faithful in all human races.. They are the best wives in the whole world .and have very beautiful eyes and beautiful voices and something private.
this is not online dating site sir
Chinese are inward looking peacefully people, they try to do business with every one, unlike American what to be the Big Brother.
Most Americans do not understand two countries helping each other,.
and doing things that are mutually beneficial. they are raised in a dog eat dog society. Helping other people is an anathema to them.
He is wrong about the escalation to deescalate in Vietnam: that's exactly what Henry Kissinger did during the Paris Peace negotiations 1972/73. When a settlement had been almost reached and the North Vietnamese raised their demands, Operation Linebacker was started and Hanoi and Haiphong were bombed massively for one week, not for any military gains, but to bring back the North Vietnamese to the negiotiating table. A month later the treaty was signed and all hostilities ended.
Not really. US lost their bet with 'escalate to deescalate' way back in Johnson's administration when McNamara was in charge. All the things American government do to escalate did not make North Vietnam accept stalemate. The only deescalation is US finally agreed to withdraw from South Vietnam.
US has never face a country that is economically n militarily maybe stronger than US soon! That’s the biggest fear of US!
Great Britain back in the day.
Germany back in the day.
Japan's navy in 1942 was a military threat
@@Zen-sx5io US did not face Germany. Hitler had 80% of the German army facing Russia. Otherwise USA would have been liquified at Normandy.
@@landontesar3070 Japan? A threat? Only because USA was weak.
32:45 This I totally agree! It really does looks this. The question is: Does it make it less dangerous to it's neighbours and the rest of the world?
From unlimited relationship to unlikely brotherhood within less than a year, how can the rest of the world trust you anymore.
This is a China's mouthpiece.
I agree with you title，but you guys forced two in one😊, he is speaking truth,guys.😅
Why the question of attacking civilian infrastructure is never a problem when residential apartment buildings are bombed in Palestine? Hegemony is a curse on the Third World 🌎
About ''legitimacy''
Is the US regime legitimate for the people? I don't think so.
We are in a cyber war. Google agrees that the release of only one artificial intelligence bot is a serious threat. I recommend we release the most number of bots possible, and this may be the last time we ever talk as humans.
The Russia-China relationship is a good example of a different yet complementary relationship, resulting in synergistic improvement and strengthening of both countries! It's a relationship made in Heaven! 🇷🇺🇨🇳
It is just such great civilisation states that understands each other and the vagaries of international politics that binds both together and protects each other against the hegemonist West.
Nonsense. Nobody makes friends with a vicious corrupt failed-state like Putine's Russia. Chairman Xi is looking at Russia and thinking of all that land in Asia that Putine can not defend.
Most American's are so ignorant that you can serve them any mental slop and they just eat it.
Nonsense. Russia is diseased and China, while much more powerful has internal problems that are being ignored. As I wrote above, China is about to eat Russia. If you call that a "relationship," you must believe in cannibalism.
China and Russia solve all their grievences, they support the vietnam war with USA... When China attack Vietnam, Russia stay out, Russia support China in the Korea war, China and Russia solve all border issues, China and Russia are neigbours and natural friends. They depends on one another in all difficult times though sometime difficults. They are natural friends.
Is american foreign policy the "elephant in the room"?
American foreign policy is whatever the Israelis tell them to do. :)
@@joeschmoe21 then it is the "elephant in the room"! I believe even kissinger admitted that recently!
Putins behaviour is well justified! We would ALL be surprised if anybody else in his shoes didnt do what Putin did
Nonsense. Poutine is a war criminal thug.
That was more about ukrane war and Russia than about China and Russia. Why no questions about China and Russia moves against dominance of US dollar?
Russia always had territorial disputes with its southern neighbors because Tzars always dreamed to reach the warm waters
Is kissinger considered successful? Or is it just because he's well connected?
Morally bankrupt? You're describing the U.S. surely!
Informative talk. The one criticism is that the speaker seemed to be all over the place. This maybe due to the fact that this is a very broad topic, and to condense it into one hour is difficult.
Very serious issue, what’s all these giggling and laughing with the speaker?
Irony and cynicism
I would describe China-Russian relations as an arranged marriage by the west. The couple had no respect for each other, but they had no choice but to obtain an marriage certificate invented by the west. Poor couple! 😅😅
'West' was invading countries, force converting, exploiting for quite a while. A strong China and China-Russia friendship is ending the West's happy times. USA and its lackey UK are going to suffer the most. The Jedi are here. Rejoice.
If one counts from the 1600s to today, Soviet/Russian-Chinese relations have been mostly antagonistic, but after the Bolshevik Revolution the relations had been mostly good except for a brief period, which a war almost broke out.
Socialist ideology bound they two countries for most years after 1917 to today, about 80-85% or more of the time.
Keep this man talking, like a canary.
Dr. Xiang, why does Biden not pursue a Taiwan policy of a seagrass anchored in the land (free western democracy) yet blown by the sea wind (china)? The wind strengthens the roots of the grass, and the grass prevents wind erosion of the beach (western democracy proper). He should present Mr. Xi with a running grass style landscape chinese calligraphy artwork and poem as a icebreaker gesture.
why not in Hong Kong?
Beautiful word picture.
@@landontesar3070 Why not the Chinese system in Florida?
@@gregwebb9737 it would be a gift mr. Xi would understand unspokenly deeply as is a literary/calligraphy diplomacy harkens back through millennia of Chinese history. It would also show a deeper understanding and respect and appreciation of the Chinese tradition/culture.
@@davidmoss2576 Because Florida would resist, like Hong Kong did
There appears to be a near-perfect consistent pattern among the western pundit community to never (EVER) compare the Sino-Russian bilateral relationship to other major foreign relations of the two countries, which misleads the US & European pundit community to believe that the PRC & Russia will "never become allies". In their singular, obsessive focus on the supposed Sino-Russian "historical animosity", they miss out on the fact that no matter how much the 2 countries supposedly "hate" each other, they have never gone to an all out war vs each other (& no, '69 was nowhere close, it can't even meet the definition of a 'war') in the ~400 years in which the 2 countries have had direct interactions. Moreover, each country has always spent exponentially more resources fighting other threats. Despite all the supposed cultural & religious similarities that Russians have with Europe, Russia's biggest wars & biggest threats have ALWAYS come from the West. In fact, even if we put aside the 2 world wars as historical anomalies, Russia lost more men fighting Sweden than it ever did fighting China. The same applies to China. The PRC's fight vs the US in the Korean War was far bigger in scale & impact than any conflict fought with Russia, & that was nowhere near the biggest international conflict China had engaged in.
Bottom line - the 2 sides indeed have a lot of differences (just as any two neighboring countries would), but whatever threat they pose toward each other is nowhere near the threat posed by other powers against both countries.
Too much laughter. This is serious
He did mention how many Chinese there were in Africa some decades ago and were just about to say how many there are today, but stopped himself mid sentence and switched to something totally unrelated.
Clearly, he realised he had better not state the figure.
Why not state the number, is it a "state secret"?
And how many millions chinese are there in fact in Africa?
It's hard to fathom that such an Amateur Hour show comes out of an Ivy League institution. Without going into a (very) extended dissection of the speech as well as the q&A, i will simply point out that there were MANY wrong facts which then naturally lead to amateur conclusions. As for critical thinking... that concept left the room, if it ever even was in the room, a very long time ago. Very, very disappointing... I just feel bad for the young students who are led to believe that they are coming there to hear or learn something smart or useful.
What is not the fact? As someone from Taiwan, who had learned Chinese histories, I totally agree with him.
I think it's bc of Putin diplomacy. He gets the credit