I just finished several days of using the evernew titanium stove on the AT and I agree that it is a winner. The boil times are better than a trangia (denatured alcohol), it cools quicker, and it weighs nothing. I have tested it with the 91% rubbing alcohol and it works albeit less efficiently. You can snuff it with a tinfoil cap if desired. Thanks for sharing !
I did that today and it does work slowing the boil time (reduced BTU) but I found it still a tad too hot to consider it a simmer. It is a bit tippy in that configuration but it is nice to know it works. I bought mine with the DX stand as well and it is a cool accessory but I didn't find a tremendous performance increase over the cross bar stands.
I've learned that if you put those cross bars down inside your Nano, it puts the stove at the perfect burn height. It also provides wind protection and a back-up fuel source. I love both!
The Evernew DX stand works as a windscreen for the alcohol stove but is also designed to work as small wood stove, and you can use it as an Esbit stove as well. I carry the Evernew stove with the DX stand and a bottle of Heet. If I run out of fuel, I can go to wood in the same setup.
Specific heat capacity is about half of aluminum and the thermal conductivity is way more than aluminum. That said the Ti will benefit more from standard burn practices for other metal stoves. That moss was a good insulator from conduction that is the enemy of reaching a bloom “prime” in short order. If possible always place an insulator beneath metal alcohol stoves. Air is the best insulator as we know from down feathers in our cold weather gear. Ideally a waffle surface of natural cork, cut like a coaster with a gold Mylar coating. A shiny metal windscreen will also reflect the radiant heat back onto the Ti cook wear, thus reducing heat losses and improve cook times. A bail wire run through the handles will make experiences with wood fires more pleasant too. Cheer to good video!
The good points of this set (I have the same set): lightweight, strong, boils quick. Downsides: stove is very thirsty (I can boil twice as much water per ounce of fuel using my Vargo) and the lid doesn't fit the mug so you can't as-efficiently boil it. I take my Evernew on short hikes (carry more fuel) but my Vargo for longer distance trips (I halve fuel weight).
@@justindunlap1235 an efficient stove should do that in about half an ounce of fuel. If you're only going out for a night or two that's not significant. If you're hiking supported for a week or two, it becomes more significant. But yes, I use about an ounce of fuel and I consider that "fuel inefficient, time efficient".
@@darthkek1953 that's exactly how I see it, I'm willing to trade a little efficiency for time, plus I just love how quite alcohol stoves are. On anything longer than a 6-8 day trip I'll usually take my pocket rocket and an 8oz canister.
@@justindunlap1235 I love alcohol stoves too, the quiet and the "real"-ness of them. I don't have a gas stove and will never own one. But my point is you can halve your fuel weight if you take a Vargo stove over the Evernew. Heck, the Vargo weighs so little you can take it TOO. :-D
At the 5:13 mark you said .." I believe you can use other forms of GAS as well ". WRONG..Do Not Use any " Petroleum based GAS " in the stove , just alcohol. Evernew even warns you to only use Denatured Alcohol and that petroleum based fuel can cause injury. If memory serves me it's on the box the stove comes in or the information sheet. I like to use the food grade alcohol in the 153 to 190 proof range whenever possible. Otherwise I use denatured alcohol. The food grade does not have any of the poisons in it like the Denatured or Heet has. If I use denatured then I keep the burner in a zip lock bag when it's not being used and stored inside the pot to stop any contamination.
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I have the Evernew crossbars and use them with a Trangia burner, they fit perfectly for that as well.
Ali Leiniö Only bad part to using the cross stand with a trangia is it's not tall enough for best heat output. Use it upside Dow and its too tall. Just make a cross stand for the trangia that holds the pot 1" above the jets.
I love my evened .9l saucepan, my homemade alcohol stove and windscreen/potstand fit inside the pot giving me a cook kit weighing just under 5 oz with 2oz of fuel per day.
A nice little stove. Looks like it is substantially thirstier than you believe, though: 3:39 “Fill it up to the top line there” 6:06 "Now my fuel is just about out, after 10 minutes, I filled it halfway; so you could get about 20 minutes if you filled it up further, but I find the halfway mark works good (sic)”
I love my TD caldera cone stove with my 550ml ti mug. Like most metho stove (as we call them in Australia) I love how quiet the thing is. A few seconds to setup and to pack up. Thanks for sharing :) Take care. Craig
Nice, but you can see how much energy gets lost here (flames licking outside the pot). A wider pot would not waste it. I use the MSR Titanium 2 pot set. Usually only carry the smallest of these, with the Evernew burner and DX2 stand.
I've been on the fence about this cook set for a while now. But I think I'll like having it for kayaking day paddles. I have and 💘 my Trangias (27T STORMCOOKER and 25T STORMCOOKER) as my choices for longer boating and kayaking trips, even for a camping over-nighter. That said, having this small Ti set would be great for hot sammies and or hot chocolate for day outings. Yep, think I'm going to try it. Thanks for showcasing it, nice review.
I have a stainless steel cap to extinguish the flame, if necessary, but it's better to calculate how much fuel u need for a boil & just use that. You can pour out & recover the excess, but mostly I let it burn dry 👍
I purchased the stove, cross stands and the evernew pot set in this video. I also got the firebox titanium gen 2 you showed on another video. These are great for boiling water to make a mountain house or hot chocolate when I was hunting for lunch time. Keeps the weight down on my hunting backpack. My question do you have a favorite or use a titanium spoon or spork? I just use i a plastic msr folding spoon. I’m afraid one day it’ll break on me even though I take my time closing and opening it.
Thank you for broadcast they have I call it a duck bill silicone pot holder if needed! Appreciate your broadcast and links kudos to you! PS how come the center isn't blocked like when you make a diy one? There's always pros and cons to all cooking! Uhhhgg right!
Yeah, I have a couple of these and it's the quickest alcohol burner to get water to boil. The advantage with the Trangia is that it can cook longer than the Evernew. That's a great light weight setup you demoed.
You CAN set your pot directly on the top jets after the stove blooms, to limit the heat & make your ounce of fuel last longer, much like a simmer ring.
or a homemade windshield made from thin Alu Foil ( 4 pie trays, folded double ), stuck together with Silver Duck Tape, made to custom size for stove & pot setup.
So Ben--I know you own several pieces of kit by Toaks as I do. Would you recommend this brand over Toaks and/or Snow Peak regarding quality, etc.? Just curious. I really like the set-up. Thanks as always.
i've sold my toaks and have since gotten the evernew. i had the snow peak combo and sold that before I even reviewed it. what I like about this is the long handles which neither the toaks or snow peak had.
I dig a hole with my heel and place the burner in the hole, the dirt acts as a wind brake, cant get lighter, and tough, no fiddly moving parts etc I also use small bottles of 30ml each. enough to warm 2 cups.
@@silentrabbit247 It really depends on the conditions, ie wind, size of pot, temp. etc., but generally an inch is just too low. Try yourself and I think you will see.
That setup is great, however, using the dx stove kit with the included 400 or 450ml pot works better in the wind. It is so lightweight it makes a great versatile daypack stove for tea or coffee. I also like the fact if you need to you can use the stand as a great wood stove as well.
FYI- Silicone is made to be able to be heated, so you probably didn't need to take it off your pot- also, if you left it on, it would probably protect your hands from the heat.
The Trangia simmer cover can be purchased separately and used on this stove,but not with this cross stand.i use a wider triangle stand and this stove with the Trangia simmer cover if I'm bringing a small fry pan or pot that needs simmering ✌️
Yeah this is not too efficient because you waste fuel compared to a trangia that can store. But the trangia is so heavy. I think the Chinese copies are aluminum so that's an alternative. I'm thinking myself to make a cat food can which is ultra light and very cheap to make.
The Evernew is light, but that’s partly because its incomplete. Theres no screw on lid and no snuff/simmer lid. Pouring spirit back into a bottle after every use is messy, and putting the thing out is a faff.
Great review Ben! Wow! That would be absolutely awesome light weight cooking set for any go bag or emergency kit. I have used the GSI mugs for quite a while and liked them a lot but that would be even better option. Although replacing my GSI mugs in my kits with those would turn bit pricey though :( Thank you for the great tip, i had never even heard of the brand Evernew. Big thumbs up Ben!
What he didn't tell you. - With this stove you have to burn all the fuel. There is no way of pouring it out. There is no way of capping it. - You have to extinguish the flame before adding more fuel.
Geo Peppe $40-$50 is worth it!! You'll never use any stove other than a trangia and the evernew for alcohol stoves. No more pop can stoves unless you make something for a specific purpose.
Um. Evernew makes their titanium goods out of .3mm stock. That's *thinner* than most of the other stuff out there. That's definitely not "more heavy duty than other brands".
Living Survival I must have 6 or 8 myself, starting with Robs canteen cup set up all the way up to Toaks. I spend more time trying to pick my kit that packing. Enjoyed the review.
Most reviewers seem to be fixated with how quickly they can boil water. This one is no different. Very little attention is paid to actual cooking which requires a lower level of heat energy over a longer period of time.
This set is garbage. The two piece pot stand is awesome though. Use it with the original brass Trangia burner for best result. The fit is even better on the Trangia.
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I just finished several days of using the evernew titanium stove on the AT and I agree that it is a winner. The boil times are better than a trangia (denatured alcohol), it cools quicker, and it weighs nothing. I have tested it with the 91% rubbing alcohol and it works albeit less efficiently. You can snuff it with a tinfoil cap if desired. Thanks for sharing !
i also just learned that due to the bi-level jets you can put the pot right on the top for low and on the stand for high.
I did that today and it does work slowing the boil time (reduced BTU) but I found it still a tad too hot to consider it a simmer. It is a bit tippy in that configuration but it is nice to know it works. I bought mine with the DX stand as well and it is a cool accessory but I didn't find a tremendous performance increase over the cross bar stands.
I've learned that if you put those cross bars down inside your Nano, it puts the stove at the perfect burn height. It also provides wind protection and a back-up fuel source. I love both!
Nice!
I pack an ultralight wood burning stove as a windscreen and backup cooking option. Always love the real world videos.
i do love my wood burners as well.
The Evernew DX stand works as a windscreen for the alcohol stove but is also designed to work as small wood stove, and you can use it as an Esbit stove as well. I carry the Evernew stove with the DX stand and a bottle of Heet. If I run out of fuel, I can go to wood in the same setup.
Specific heat capacity is about half of aluminum and the thermal conductivity is way more than aluminum. That said the Ti will benefit more from standard burn practices for other metal stoves. That moss was a good insulator from conduction that is the enemy of reaching a bloom “prime” in short order. If possible always place an insulator beneath metal alcohol stoves. Air is the best insulator as we know from down feathers in our cold weather gear. Ideally a waffle surface of natural cork, cut like a coaster with a gold Mylar coating. A shiny metal windscreen will also reflect the radiant heat back onto the Ti cook wear, thus reducing heat losses and improve cook times. A bail wire run through the handles will make experiences with wood fires more pleasant too. Cheer to good video!
The good points of this set (I have the same set): lightweight, strong, boils quick. Downsides: stove is very thirsty (I can boil twice as much water per ounce of fuel using my Vargo) and the lid doesn't fit the mug so you can't as-efficiently boil it. I take my Evernew on short hikes (carry more fuel) but my Vargo for longer distance trips (I halve fuel weight).
Is it really that inefficient, my little red bull alcohol stove will boil 2 cups of water in 4 minutes with less than an ounce of denatured alcohol.
@@justindunlap1235 an efficient stove should do that in about half an ounce of fuel. If you're only going out for a night or two that's not significant. If you're hiking supported for a week or two, it becomes more significant. But yes, I use about an ounce of fuel and I consider that "fuel inefficient, time efficient".
@@darthkek1953 that's exactly how I see it, I'm willing to trade a little efficiency for time, plus I just love how quite alcohol stoves are. On anything longer than a 6-8 day trip I'll usually take my pocket rocket and an 8oz canister.
@@justindunlap1235 I love alcohol stoves too, the quiet and the "real"-ness of them. I don't have a gas stove and will never own one. But my point is you can halve your fuel weight if you take a Vargo stove over the Evernew. Heck, the Vargo weighs so little you can take it TOO. :-D
At the 5:13 mark you said .." I believe you can use other forms of GAS as well ". WRONG..Do Not Use any " Petroleum based GAS " in the stove , just alcohol. Evernew even warns you to only use Denatured Alcohol and that petroleum based fuel can cause injury. If memory serves me it's on the box the stove comes in or the information sheet.
I like to use the food grade alcohol in the 153 to 190 proof range whenever possible. Otherwise I use denatured alcohol. The food grade does not have any of the poisons in it like the Denatured or Heet has. If I use denatured then I keep the burner in a zip lock bag when it's not being used and stored inside the pot to stop any contamination.
I have the Evernew crossbars and use them with a Trangia burner, they fit perfectly for that as well.
good to know, thanks.
Ali Leiniö
Only bad part to using the cross stand with a trangia is it's not tall enough for best heat output.
Use it upside Dow and its too tall.
Just make a cross stand for the trangia that holds the pot 1" above the jets.
I love my evened .9l saucepan, my homemade alcohol stove and windscreen/potstand fit inside the pot giving me a cook kit weighing just under 5 oz with 2oz of fuel per day.
A nice little stove. Looks like it is substantially thirstier than you believe, though:
3:39 “Fill it up to the top line there”
6:06 "Now my fuel is just about out, after 10 minutes, I filled it halfway; so you could get about 20 minutes if you filled it up further, but I find the halfway mark works good (sic)”
I love my Evernew alcohol stove! I just picked up a super cheap Lixada wood stove and the Evernew works perfectly in it!
nice, i pretty much use it standalone with the crossbars. if I am going to cook for an extended period or don't have fuel I use the firebox nano.
I love my TD caldera cone stove with my 550ml ti mug. Like most metho stove (as we call them in Australia) I love how quiet the thing is. A few seconds to setup and to pack up. Thanks for sharing :)
Take care. Craig
thanks for watching Craig
In canada I use methyl hydrate it's about 6dollars for 2gallons at Canadian tire
Nice, but you can see how much energy gets lost here (flames licking outside the pot). A wider pot would not waste it. I use the MSR Titanium 2 pot set. Usually only carry the smallest of these, with the Evernew burner and DX2 stand.
I've been on the fence about this cook set for a while now. But I think I'll like having it for kayaking day paddles. I have and 💘 my Trangias (27T STORMCOOKER and 25T STORMCOOKER) as my choices for longer boating and kayaking trips, even for a camping over-nighter. That said, having this small Ti set would be great for hot sammies and or hot chocolate for day outings. Yep, think I'm going to try it. Thanks for showcasing it, nice review.
I'm wondering if you can use a solid alcohol fuel tab in this stove ? Seems like it'd be great for a 1 day use!
I really like this setup. I love my Trangia stoves but they are way too heavy. I'm going to have to get one of these so supplement my MSR Windburner.
it works great and weighs NOTHING.
and you can use the Trangia's Simmer Ring with this stove
I prefer my Soto Windmaster cartridge stove,but use this if cartridges aren't available where I'm traveling, or i bring this as a backup.
Good video. Thanks. How do you put the flames out when you are done and how do you recover the unused alcohol?
I have a stainless steel cap to extinguish the flame, if necessary, but it's better to calculate how much fuel u need for a boil & just use that. You can pour out & recover the excess, but mostly I let it burn dry 👍
I purchased the stove, cross stands and the evernew pot set in this video. I also got the firebox titanium gen 2 you showed on another video. These are great for boiling water to make a mountain house or hot chocolate when I was hunting for lunch time. Keeps the weight down on my hunting backpack.
My question do you have a favorite or use a titanium spoon or spork?
I just use i a plastic msr folding spoon. I’m afraid one day it’ll break on me even though I take my time closing and opening it.
Thank you for broadcast they have I call it a duck bill silicone pot holder if needed! Appreciate your broadcast and links kudos to you! PS how come the center isn't blocked like when you make a diy one? There's always pros and cons to all cooking! Uhhhgg right!
Hey, THX for showing!!!!!!!
Greets from far away Germany,
Henning
Yeah, I have a couple of these and it's the quickest alcohol burner to get water to boil. The advantage with the Trangia is that it can cook longer than the Evernew. That's a great light weight setup you demoed.
with the simmer ring I agree. This one is for full on boil and works great.
You CAN set your pot directly on the top jets after the stove blooms, to limit the heat & make your ounce of fuel last longer, much like a simmer ring.
Thx for review! Had Toaks 750 ml to buy, but now i think same 700 as your. Longer handle is a good thing. Is there any drain holes on the lid? best, M
nice stuff!
can you say if the pot/mug will nest with a klean kanteen 40oz.?
thanks!
Set the stove on the ground behind the log and use it as a windscreen.
does it burn clean without sud? also seen online that yellow heet is a good choice, burns with no sud.
I have a VERY similarly designed stove, a Tomshoo Alcohol stove.
Any suggestions for a type of simmer ring?
Hello,just bought one and I’m keen to use . One question can you use methylated spirits in them,thanks from Australia
yes
Nice piece of kit. I would think a titanium windscreen would be a good addition.
typically i will make a windscreen of some sort or place the stove down low somewhere when not filming ;)
or a homemade windshield made from thin Alu Foil ( 4 pie trays, folded double ), stuck together with Silver Duck Tape, made to custom size for stove & pot setup.
So Ben--I know you own several pieces of kit by Toaks as I do. Would you recommend this brand over Toaks and/or Snow Peak regarding quality, etc.? Just curious. I really like the set-up. Thanks as always.
i've sold my toaks and have since gotten the evernew. i had the snow peak combo and sold that before I even reviewed it. what I like about this is the long handles which neither the toaks or snow peak had.
Thanks Ben and good to know..... -Shane
One sweet stove kit! great review!
$65 just for the pot and mug? That's a bit steep or is that pretty average for titanium cookware..? Great demo as always my man !
pretty average. the durability is there and has some features such as the longer handles that others do not.
Toaks titanium cookware is cheaper but the Evernew stuff seems a little higher quality imho
@@livingsurvival Evernew stove is definitely worth it, the cookware, ill cheap out on ;)
Great review. I have this on the future list. The whole setup
great setup.
wasn't it a bit dangerous to light is on top of of dried wood, around dried leaves, and also spray the alcohol around it?
and it is not usefull...
I dig a hole with my heel and place the burner in the hole, the dirt acts as a wind brake, cant get lighter, and tough, no fiddly moving parts etc I also use small bottles of 30ml each. enough to warm 2 cups.
Hi, can I use the fuel oil to ignite this stove instead of alcohol?
Muhammad Redha denatured alcohol only!
I have the Toaks set up. I'm getting this stove. Great review...
toaks is great as well. i have since sold my toaks for the evernew though.
I was wondering about the lack of dampener. It seems it is either "on" or "off". Otherwise it looks very nice.
right, it's made for full on heat.
oatiemoanie
Set your pot directly on the stove for Med heat and on the crossstand for high.
You need more headspace between the stove and the bottom of the pot. It will be much quicker and efficient.
Think 1 inch is about the optimum distance
@@silentrabbit247 It really depends on the conditions, ie wind, size of pot, temp. etc., but generally an inch is just too low. Try yourself and I think you will see.
Spot on man great little stove ⛺️
thanks Alan
can you use the stove with the cross stand? Can you place the pot right on the alcohol stove?
Yes, for medium heat & extended burn times on less fuel, but wait for the bloom 😎
Thanks for the video Iv been toying with the idea of getting one . Think I will now . All the best
Looks fantastic but I just looked up the price.....WOW! Guess I'll be sticking with my fancy cat stove.
That setup is great, however, using the dx stove kit with the included 400 or 450ml pot works better in the wind. It is so lightweight it makes a great versatile daypack stove for tea or coffee. I also like the fact if you need to you can use the stand as a great wood stove as well.
Good video, I like that setup looks like all you would need
Very cool cook set and thank you for sharing!
you bet. have a good weekend.
Love your channel!
My problem with the alcohol stove is the sticky residue that remains or drips into my cup during storage. How do you avoid this problem?
Stick it in a ziplock bag & stuff the excess bag in the hole, no zipping needed
Is there a version, or other brand, that isn’t Chinese. That can be used with twigs or alcohol? That would be ideal.
FYI- Silicone is made to be able to be heated, so you probably didn't need to take it off your pot- also, if you left it on, it would probably protect your hands from the heat.
He puts the pot in the campfire coals.
Does this work in the winter time?
Alcohol stoves work great in winter time.
can you add alcohol when the burner is going?
Not recommended.
No,shouldn't add till cooled off.
I see no way to haul it with alky in it ? Does it have a simmer ring ?
No simmer ring.
where is the link to the stove
never mind it just didnt work the first time
Just placed my order.
sweet! enjoy.
U can simmer with a trangia, with this one u can’t. This would only serve purpose for rehydrating freeze dried meals.
That and boiling water for coffee. The only two things I use it for.
The Trangia simmer cover can be purchased separately and used on this stove,but not with this cross stand.i use a wider triangle stand and this stove with the Trangia simmer cover if I'm bringing a small fry pan or pot that needs simmering
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Any way to simmer?
Yeah this is not too efficient because you waste fuel compared to a trangia that can store. But the trangia is so heavy. I think the Chinese copies are aluminum so that's an alternative.
I'm thinking myself to make a cat food can which is ultra light and very cheap to make.
Nice cookset Ben
thanks.
The Evernew is light, but that’s partly because its incomplete. Theres no screw on lid and no snuff/simmer lid. Pouring spirit back into a bottle after every use is messy, and putting the thing out is a faff.
Wow that's a huge amount of lost heat from the flame spouts being so far outside. Works fine but very inefficient.
support! but the focus of ur camera makes me feel very dizzy
sorry about that ;)
Great review Ben! Wow! That would be absolutely awesome light weight cooking set for any go bag or emergency kit. I have used the GSI mugs for quite a while and liked them a lot but that would be even better option. Although replacing my GSI mugs in my kits with those would turn bit pricey though :( Thank you for the great tip, i had never even heard of the brand Evernew. Big thumbs up Ben!
i have a GSI mug and their kettle which I like a lot.
Good video
What he didn't tell you.
- With this stove you have to burn all the fuel. There is no way of pouring it out. There is no way of capping it.
- You have to extinguish the flame before adding more fuel.
It's easy to cup just putting a cup over it
High risk of unbalance caused alcohol spill fire. Use other solutions.
Not to mention any little breeze will blow it out.
@@stacksmasher when it's going it takes a LOT to blow it out.
@@darthkek1953 Good to know!
53 dollars for that tiny stove????
$39
Geo Peppe
$40-$50 is worth it!!
You'll never use any stove other than a trangia and the evernew for alcohol stoves.
No more pop can stoves unless you make something for a specific purpose.
This titanium alcohol stove is only $20 shop.mysurvivalpack.com/core-alcohol-stove
great little burner iv not used burners trangia types just like hand sanitizer in a Altoids tin is as close as iv gotten lol
well no simmer ring or cap make this a non starter. the weight diff is worthless when i have to carry sooo much extra fuel
Um. Evernew makes their titanium goods out of .3mm stock. That's *thinner* than most of the other stuff out there.
That's definitely not "more heavy duty than other brands".
cool!
Thanks.
fuel weight would make it heavy though
compared to what. fuel that you collect for a wood stove. fuel canisters that you also have to carry. lightest in my book even with fuel.
THANKS FOR THE REVIEW BIG DUDE
BRAIN$
dont like the stove it has no lid
it is made for full on heat.
thank you
So many cook kits, so little time..
ain't that the truth
Living Survival I must have 6 or 8 myself, starting with Robs canteen cup set up all the way up to Toaks.
I spend more time trying to pick my kit that packing.
Enjoyed the review.
So many kits, so little MONEY, hehehe...
Now i gotta save up some $$ 👍
Most reviewers seem to be fixated with how quickly they can boil water. This one is no different. Very little attention is paid to actual cooking which requires a lower level of heat energy over a longer period of time.
Most ultralight backpackers only need to boil water to rehydrate meals in a pot cozy and to brew coffee.
This set is garbage. The two piece pot stand is awesome though. Use it with the original brass Trangia burner for best result. The fit is even better on the Trangia.
Made in Japan. Garbage? Lol. Try again buddy. Just about everything I've ever bought that was made in Japan has been top notch.
the 2 piece DX stand works great with homemade "Penny Can" meths stove, using 2 beer cans and a penny.
SECOND!
I BOUGHT ONE AND I WISH I HADN'T....very poor performance,, weight isnt everything,,,going back to Trangia..thrown my Evernew away..