@@derrilazkia1002 yeah i can agree with that. But i personally don't mind tho, like a lot of my friends that was a female sometimes use this kind of tone when they just wanna joking around 😅
The faster you speak the more hysterical you sound like, especially if the pitch of voice is loud and high. Anime voice acting speech is drastically different than normal conversation speech.
@@hahayes7205 true, but somehow we turn that "Angry mother about to beat a child" vibe into Ara² Milf Vibe you need to simp for _Not that I am against Ara² Milf Vibes though_
This actually just a cultural difference in Indonesia. Every regions and cities have their own intonation. Some regions can sound more snarky than other, and other regions will think that as a rude behaviour. I am lucky to be able to attend a colleges with peoples from multiple cities, from peoples that never swear to people that swear every 5 second. So yeah, you can feel cultural shock by just meet people from another cities. For Hana herself, she speak in very Jakarta/Big City like tones (?), so some of regions will hear it as a little bit rude. I personally know some people that speak like that so it just feel natural to me (just playful snarky tones).
Indonesia is just so diverse like that some people even say it more like an empire than a state like you go from aceh to medan and already you can see the difrent in your surounding
It doesn't help that most of Niji ID are strongly Java oriented in term of upbringing. Her tones will certainly stands out. But honestly compared to Miyu when she is angry or Azura being snarky, she is pretty tame. I kinda wish we get a Batak or a genuine Betawi. Just to see Hana go "what's wrong this person."
Tru tru, East Java have the roughest accent from it's other Java accent so it felt really natural when hearing Hana talk like that. Literally that's how most of my friends talk lol
(I'm not sure if it's the same in this case but it was when I did it) When auditioning you don't actually audition for a role on a specific avatar,they give you one based on how you act,so yeah they are designed for that!
I think that there could also be some of the reverse going on due to how we create "people" in our heads. We haven't really seen any other voices coming from Hana, and as such, we've just associated Hana's avatar with her voice, and to think of any other kind of voice coming from the model would be weird. Like, if someone else used her model instead of her at the very beginning, our perception of what voice "should" be associated with the model changes.
I don’t think they do, at least not all of them It’s just that we get used to it Also I think there are characters designed for the voice, or voice talents given a character that fits them.
Nah, I think the reason why it sounds mean is because she learned Indonesian through her friends and not some formal language school. When I first heard Hana's Indonesian, I think she has a Jakartan tone/accent(?). As a person from Bali and currently live in Jakarta, for me Jakartan tone is the 3rd harshest tone after Eastern Java and Medan, so maybe it's normal for her to speak Indonesian in her environment, but people from different region might see it as rude. For real, when I first came to Jakarta, my first thought was "Damn, people here like to insult lol"
im sorry 😭 but yes, im a jakarta-born javanese and was told to calm down many times bc they thought i was asking for a fight; which I didn't, at all! Its just my tone 😭
Oh ho ho just wait till you stay in bandung,swearing there is just an everday language to the point where people doesn't even take it as what it supposed to mean
@@shinsha_ ngl i live in Yogyakarta when i was in middle school and some transfer student from Jakarta get beat up by his senior in silat eskul because how the way he speak
Eyy true It happened when I'm started going to college in east java, I got so many western java & jakarta friend and my first impression was like : damn these people be like swearing so loud lool Also they often get troubled with the teacher because of how they speak
Definitely agree. In fact, your personality might even change a bit when you're speaking in a different language too. At least, I felt that way being a bilingual person
@@dvdlesher can relate bechause i rarely swear in indonesia but i will swear like every 5 second in english and russia just bechause its so damn good to swearing with those two language while it feel so off to swear out of nowhere in indonesian
@@Seri-tt3tf people actually dont feel insult/swears other than your native language, you can get insulted in your second language but still wont feel anything unless you actually deep in your second language's culture
can relate, i actually have to tune my voice because when i talk normally people thought i'm being sarcastic or grumpy all the time. guess that's why i rarely talk lol
Yo, i do the same thing, my voice is kinda deep (not THAT deep, but is noticeably deep) but many times people have asked me if im angry, or "why am i talking them like that" so unconsciously i tune up my voice an octave or two Now i hear people talking behind my back saying "why he sounds so dumb" ... so i refrain to speak to people :D
For me when i'm in project or something My tone get serious and bossy , i just want to ask it efficiently "Are you done with your part ?" "What do you think about this?" "Please complete your part before *** because i need to combine and review it"
as an indonesian, the way she speaks sounds very normal to me. but maybe thats bc im from sumatra and people here speaks indonesian a lot rougher than people in java🤪
Indonesian maybe fluent in 2 language from birth, national language which is Indonesian and their ethnic language. So yeah, for me i fluent in 4 language, Javanese (my ethnic language), Indonesian, english, japanese (i took japanese lit in college), and maybe a little arabic. Bro, that's not something we care about.
@@mezmerism107 it's good when i'm surrounded with English speakers it's not too good when i go outside,i forgot the word when i was about to say them and i know it in english, my brain just malfunctioned and keep trying to make me speak English
Learning languages are more than learning words and grammars, it comes with the whole package of stereotype, mindset, culture, habit, etc etc. It's understandable, really.
Yes, but only if you learn them from the natives. People from India/Pakistan for example, most of them don't learn English from the natives so they have their own distinct characteristic.
It could just be the language, for example Vietnamese. My family likes to joke that when we/people speak Vietnamese, we either are louder or sound like we are arguing.
its more like region influence i think every region in indonesia have their own quirk when they are speaking bahasa, some region could make bahasa sounds really rude and loud and some region could make it really polite and so on, hana's bahasa is most likely influenced by the region that made bahasa sounds snarky
@@yoshidasaki17703 can relate i have a close friend that is a batak and a catolic (oh btw im a javanese muslim) and boy is it hard to keep track to what he saying bechause his accent regarding the fact that both of us speak in indonesian
Just like how Calli sounds like she came from the hood when speaking English, but sounds so polite when speaking Japanese I guess different languages gives you its original personalities eh?
Calli sounds a lot more tame when she isn't streaming, that's just a part of the character she plays. Like during that Trash Taste podcast she was on she sounded a lot more normal than during her streams.
I always wonder what Calli's English sounds like to non-native speakers ; to native speakers she sounds very dorky and trying too hard to be cool (which is extremely endearing and an important part of her character). To non-native speakers does she genuinely sound cool?
I have different personalities when talking in different languages, for example, when I'm speaking in English, I have a more calm, understanding personality, then when I'm speaking in Indonesian, I bust out 10 different curse words in 3 seconds.
As an Indonesian, man she speaks so much nicer than most of us lmao. The way many people talk is usually seen as ‘mean’ in other places, but here? We’re not formal at all-
@@Seri-tt3tf oh boy, man there's a whole lot of difference between the two. Its like speaking a different language. The many slangs that Indonesians use makes it even more harder for us to understand and speak. Whenever I play with my Indonesian friends, we ended up speaking in English or I ask them to speak Indonesian formally lol
@@siafilia3935 yeah i can relate like you can go to difrent province IN THE SAME ISLAND mind you and people either get offended by your way of speaking or they just chuckle at you. It just so many slang and leeway for indonesian it actually hard if you tried to learn the slang instead stopping after learn the formal bahasa indonesia
Ngl, as a spanish speaker I dont mind that "mean" or harsh indonesian hana because my language is also quite rude and the people are even more rude, but the fact is that when you change languages you also switch nationalities (aka cultures), so your personality to others might change too. Hana always sounded atractive to me regardless of language tho, not in a creepy way but in a "cool and fun person to hang out that attracts your attention" kind of way. She is one of the few streamers/vtuber that I can actually watch and listen to without being bored regardless of her just rolling some virtual dice lol
Ah yes the term "judes" or "bitchy" in indonesia is basicly the killer point if you are a woman in indonesia, even if you have good look if you have that attitude it will hard for you to get boyfriend bechause people in general just dont like near you
I mean, personality wise bitchy I can get, but purely because how ye- ah, now that I think about it. It is annoying to hear people that are "Ye know like, that guy was toootallly nailing her like, _totally_ portsiding her like." Speaking in this kind of manner. Even if said folk aren't actually bitchy, just raised to speak in that manner.
@@Elmithian in my personal experience i have a classmate that talk like that and act pretty much like a bitch and everyone in the class rarely talk to her exept me that like to annoy or disturb her bechause i was that sadistic and bechause its so entertaining seeing her rage and she loosing her mind all over the place
I might add, been having some friends who naturally judes. yeah that Judes attitude usually associated with the worst kinda ppl, someone who is not so pretty but too arrogant to see that herself. this is so common and they would offend so much ppl with their attitude. but sometimes its a defense mechanism, umm lets just say the prettiest/most popular girl in the campus, have that judes attitude, because it really helps them to ward off unwanted ppl, esp when shes single, and some rude random dude just SKSD (start hitting at her) she shut them off with one or two sentences and we never see them again. as her friends we know she be so mean because theres too many randos just deliberately annoy her to get her attention. now this is what i see in that " Maaf ya aku bukan wibu" a natural defense mechanism in some girls.
I guess it's just psychological thing that we change personality(voice tones, behaviour etc.) When we switch languages. To be freaking honest, I kinda have a meaner(?) Personality when I talk in English but whenever I talk in Korean/Japanese I'm behaving more polite and sometimes it came as cute pastelly(?) Personality.
There's a study that people who speak multiple lanuages tend to associate different personalities to each laguage they speak, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's mean in indonesian.
Hana: In indonesian, if you using a wrong tone, people could think you're mean Me: wait, tone matters in indonesian ? My Friends who think I'm always mean: always has been
5:24 The tone was flat and stern with a quick execution, aka a savage respond. Intonation really play a huge role in verbal communication. Thats why we need to understand people. Some are just pure asshat and some are just trying their best to be friendly but it mislead.
Languages are like clothes / uniform. You can feel like a different person with different personality just by putting them on. Some clothes just won't allow you to move (or think) freely. Some clothes feels more fitting for the situation, while some feels comfortable to wear than others.
@@UNIT0918 yes! I notice that Deutsche have a lot of words to describe some feelings other language can't, just by combining two words, like schadenfreude: the feeling of joy upon seeing other people's suffering (schaden = harm, freude = joy). And Language also shape how we think. People says it's hard to be sarcastic if you're speaking standard, Tokyo dialect Japanese,for whatever reason.
When you learn the language definitely has an effect on the tone. Say you grow up using korean then in your teens you speak english, chances are your korean will sound softer than when you speak in english. That or vice versa, depending from person to person.
@@biowbe4522 Can relate deeply. When I swear in Indonesian, I feel like I just come out as extremely rude and impolite. But to swear in English is a whole different thing. I feel like swear words in English just don't hold as much impact for me compared to Indonesian that I can just it a lot comfortably without being scared I might offend anyone.
I find that compared to other SEA language, indonesian is really... how to say it, staccato?? It sounds like a railgun. We talk FAST fast. I think that plays a role in why it sounds "mean"
Hana : *"I just sound like I bully people a lot?"* Boni must be like *"Sound like? U serious??"* xD Really? I don't feel like Hana is that grumpy or mean when she's speaking Indonesian. Indonesian people are quite famous with their friendliness afterall. Except when she's swearing in Indonesian lol 7:38 Oh hey, it's Hitsuji!
In Indonesian if you are close to someone, your chaotic self would uhh, show up and that just mean that indonesian is chaotic at heart in a positive way
True, when I speak Indonesian I came off as rude and such and when I speak English, I came off as a rather doubtful and chill person. Well, that is how I see it, don't know what other people see of it...
When I speak I'm English I'm just like "yes quennnnn" and stuff like that When I speak German I'm like Super polite funny When I speak Portuguese I'm super funny When I speak in Japanese I'm just polite, cute and super talkative
In Indonesia, every regions have their own "color" of language. Like when you compare java to north sumatera, it's different. When you compare java to bali, it's different. Even when you compare central java and east java, even if we have nearly same culture it's different. So how you sound, is it funny, calm, or mean, it's deppend where's region you live
In humans terms, languages and personalities change as the a user interchangeably use different languages, the primary reason is the environment, style of the Language(slang/dialects, social awareness and hierarchy language also effects if the languages have different level of the same word. I for one speak like a child when I try speaking Bahasa because the version I was taught was mostly derived from children and teenagers, hence my childish language....
hana should'nt be scared to speak bahasa, she sounds so normal to me, i think bcs indonesian speak really fast when it comes to bahasa so it sounds more aggressive but it's normal to indonesian, she should'nt insecure about her bahasa it's really fine to me
As a person who speaks Mandarin (Chinese Malaysian-style native level), English (Second Language), Bahasa Malaysia (Second Language, not as fluent), and a little bit of Japanese and Northern Malaysian- Hokkien (Foreign Language level)... I can confirm that every morning I hold senate meetings with my 5 different personalities to decide what breakfast should I eat. XD
I'm Indonesian and the only times I use Indonesian is when I argue or like saying insults. It feels more comfortable to say more "insults" in Bahasa than in English. in my opinion I think it's because when saying in Indonesian it's not exactly like a direct insult, more like you're joking around or having fun.
No i definitely felt that.. sometime the language can affect how we process the thought and formulate the word.. it just come out like that. It is different when you talk in javanese and sundanese
oh man i live in tangerang for my whole life, went to uni in tangerang and met bunch of scholarship students who came from other islands, usually remote areas. i was making like a joke, a common one here in tangerang and they thought i was angry and im like "hAH APAAN SIH WEH KAGA ANJIR???????", and they labelled me as galak as well eVEN THOUGH IM SPEAKING IN THE SAME WAY FOR LIKE MOST OF MY LIFE
Nevermind languages, even accents can do something like that too. Like when I'm afraid, scared, or shy, I tend to speak with no accent / American accent. But when I speak with British accent, I'm very confident for no apparent reason lol.
I use a Scottish voice when I'm trying to be confident. It goes from slight to comical depending on what I'm doing. Dnd night gets the really loud and stereotypical one.
It's scientifically proven tho that your personality is changed a bit when you're speaking another language and your native language will more likely sounds more rude to you
well, when a person (some of them) use bahasa but with slowed intonation, it was sign that they got a bad mood. try speak indonesian fast, like agung hapsah did
Heck even her voice sounds very different *But That's The Best Part :D* Jokes aside having multiple persona like that if anything,it makes her more "unique"
this is perfectly normal here in indonesia, as someone who grew up in a circle of friends who annoyingly assume im always angry whenever i speak and at the slightest change of tone even though im not really anything but happy and feeling great seeing them some people just give off a very intimidating tone towards others. Look at Moona for example.
yep yep. in indonesia (specifically in java, since i'm not too sure about other island's culture)-- calling your friends with insults, swear words and animal names are common, especially with close friends (the harsher you do it, shows how much closer you are with them)
she isn't really being mean, her inner wkwk just showing
That's just the how "netizen" personality works
@@derrilazkia1002 "netijen"
I mean she's kinda "jutek" tho when she speaks Indonesian
@@yuyukoasaka5296 apparently she's also kinda "judes" while speaking Japanese too
@@derrilazkia1002 yeah i can agree with that. But i personally don't mind tho, like a lot of my friends that was a female sometimes use this kind of tone when they just wanna joking around 😅
"i just come off sounds so mean"
every indonesian : "ha? Wdym? It's sounds normal to me"
yeah, I agree. B aja kok
@@FumeKO1 even saying the k word is normal
Definitely me when see her speak indo
Lmaoo yeah, i see no difference from it, she sounds pretty normal to me
@@aqib4925 lmfao frrrr
People said that when you can do multiple languages it means you also can have multiple personalities. Maybe this is one of the example
That's true
Very true
Yeah. Diffrent language is diffret personality that how we learn language
Это правда.
I become cute when speak in english
Hana does give off that "angry mother about to beat their child" energy when speaking Indonesian.
Not so much here, but in other videos.
More like your sassy ex that still salty after broken up with you and totally not speaking from personal experience shut up!
@@Seri-tt3tf 😂
Every indonesian mom if not every asian mom gives off an "angry mother about to beat their child" energy
The faster you speak the more hysterical you sound like, especially if the pitch of voice is loud and high.
Anime voice acting speech is drastically different than normal conversation speech.
@@hahayes7205 true, but somehow we turn that "Angry mother about to beat a child" vibe into Ara² Milf Vibe you need to simp for
_Not that I am against Ara² Milf Vibes though_
She doesn't have to try. As a native, I gave up entirely to sound kind
indonesians doesnt even try to talk formally lol
@@muhammadridhorabbani1641 lmaoo true
I only speak SPOK + anjing
@@muhammadridhorabbani1641 Thats true tho, lmao i am indonesian and i don't even try to speak formal.. haha...
@nehan sad dude just sad
This actually just a cultural difference in Indonesia. Every regions and cities have their own intonation. Some regions can sound more snarky than other, and other regions will think that as a rude behaviour.
I am lucky to be able to attend a colleges with peoples from multiple cities, from peoples that never swear to people that swear every 5 second. So yeah, you can feel cultural shock by just meet people from another cities.
For Hana herself, she speak in very Jakarta/Big City like tones (?), so some of regions will hear it as a little bit rude. I personally know some people that speak like that so it just feel natural to me (just playful snarky tones).
Indonesia is just so diverse like that some people even say it more like an empire than a state like you go from aceh to medan and already you can see the difrent in your surounding
It doesn't help that most of Niji ID are strongly Java oriented in term of upbringing. Her tones will certainly stands out. But honestly compared to Miyu when she is angry or Azura being snarky, she is pretty tame.
I kinda wish we get a Batak or a genuine Betawi. Just to see Hana go "what's wrong this person."
@@beefystu559 that will be loud but i like it 🤸🏽♀️
Tru tru, East Java have the roughest accent from it's other Java accent so it felt really natural when hearing Hana talk like that.
Literally that's how most of my friends talk lol
Wait until you hear makassarese speaking
why does vtubers sound the way their avatars are designed like. her voice is so calm...... and... her avatar looks the way her voice sounds??
(I'm not sure if it's the same in this case but it was when I did it) When auditioning you don't actually audition for a role on a specific avatar,they give you one based on how you act,so yeah they are designed for that!
@@MaiMaijin yeah, sometimes they also make the character's design based on what they actually look like
hskw actually being bri'ish
I think that there could also be some of the reverse going on due to how we create "people" in our heads. We haven't really seen any other voices coming from Hana, and as such, we've just associated Hana's avatar with her voice, and to think of any other kind of voice coming from the model would be weird. Like, if someone else used her model instead of her at the very beginning, our perception of what voice "should" be associated with the model changes.
I don’t think they do, at least not all of them
It’s just that we get used to it
Also I think there are characters designed for the voice, or voice talents given a character that fits them.
Nah, I think the reason why it sounds mean is because she learned Indonesian through her friends and not some formal language school. When I first heard Hana's Indonesian, I think she has a Jakartan tone/accent(?). As a person from Bali and currently live in Jakarta, for me Jakartan tone is the 3rd harshest tone after Eastern Java and Medan, so maybe it's normal for her to speak Indonesian in her environment, but people from different region might see it as rude.
For real, when I first came to Jakarta, my first thought was "Damn, people here like to insult lol"
im sorry 😭 but yes, im a jakarta-born javanese and was told to calm down many times bc they thought i was asking for a fight; which I didn't, at all! Its just my tone 😭
@@tamoriryo me in bandung whenever my uncle's family from jakarta visits whenever i hear them talk i always think "ay yo chill" in my mind hahahaha
Oh ho ho just wait till you stay in bandung,swearing there is just an everday language to the point where people doesn't even take it as what it supposed to mean
@@shinsha_ ngl i live in Yogyakarta when i was in middle school and some transfer student from Jakarta get beat up by his senior in silat eskul because how the way he speak
Eyy true
It happened when I'm started going to college in east java, I got so many western java & jakarta friend and my first impression was like : damn these people be like swearing so loud lool
Also they often get troubled with the teacher because of how they speak
TBF Hana's Indonesian is "tamer" compared to Miyu's.
Ah, almighty lider is just built different
GELUD
Shh dont talk bad bout lider
Miyu is just built different
@@ReikiMaulana LMAOOO true
I'm a Malaysian (Not Indonesian), and she doesn't sound that mean, she just sounds like she's in a hurry.
Oh heyo! My dad's from Malaysia! I visited there a few years back. :D
He is Chinese Malaysian btw.
@@vvgirl6173 Nice, I'm the same!
@This Malaysian KualaLumpurian here
@@Kuumin that's where my family lives, or at least where I went to visit them. :D
@@vvgirl6173 :o
German's : first time?
Russians: *Pats the germans on the shoulder*
Arabs: *Enters the room*
Pffttt
Ordering food casually in german language sounds like a death treat
But in arab people just get scared with a word
wkwkwkwk
Selphius : turns into German angel
Subtitle: English
Hana: * speaks Indonesian *
Me, an Indonesian: reads subtitle to translate to Indonesian in mind
Also me: feeling dumb
First time?
Lmao too much english content
@@Indrakrn i relate to your comment so much lmao
Yeah it's big brain moment
Wkwkwk we iyah buset gk sadar gw napa baca subtitle wong ngomong pake b indo yaelah...
Language comes with culture. While language in every place sounds similar, you will absorb different cultures based on where you learn said language
Definitely agree. In fact, your personality might even change a bit when you're speaking in a different language too. At least, I felt that way being a bilingual person
@@dvdlesher can relate bechause i rarely swear in indonesia but i will swear like every 5 second in english and russia just bechause its so damn good to swearing with those two language while it feel so off to swear out of nowhere in indonesian
@@Seri-tt3tf I'm your opposite 😶. Well its probablt since I'm from surabaya, and surabaya has one of the best slang curses
@@Seri-tt3tf people actually dont feel insult/swears other than your native language, you can get insulted in your second language but still wont feel anything unless you actually deep in your second language's culture
can relate, i actually have to tune my voice because when i talk normally people thought i'm being sarcastic or grumpy all the time. guess that's why i rarely talk lol
When i start speaking english my mom keep told me for being a sarcastic bastard bechause my tone
Yo, i do the same thing, my voice is kinda deep (not THAT deep, but is noticeably deep) but many times people have asked me if im angry, or "why am i talking them like that" so unconsciously i tune up my voice an octave or two
Now i hear people talking behind my back saying "why he sounds so dumb" ... so i refrain to speak to people :D
For me when i'm in project or something
My tone get serious and bossy , i just want to ask it efficiently
"Are you done with your part ?"
"What do you think about this?"
"Please complete your part before *** because i need to combine and review it"
My voice sounds like i'm mad all the time, i had to talk with a high voice (which sounds weird sometimes) and there goes the suffer
as an indonesian, the way she speaks sounds very normal to me. but maybe thats bc im from sumatra and people here speaks indonesian a lot rougher than people in java🤪
why did you use that emoji in the end?
@@hasanmuttaqin464 nun of your business
Which Java? If it's Central Java yes i approve, but Easter Java? No..
lmao same, im in tasik and everyone here is like so two sided, i can't explain but this emoji basically "😚🔪"
As an fellow sumatra citizen i approve this a lot
“I’m really sorry I’m dumb”
Meanwhile, I’m over here struggling to learn Japanese, while she’s proficient in 3 languages... (that I know of)
Japanese is hard so it's normal
Indonesian maybe fluent in 2 language from birth, national language which is Indonesian and their ethnic language. So yeah, for me i fluent in 4 language, Javanese (my ethnic language), Indonesian, english, japanese (i took japanese lit in college), and maybe a little arabic. Bro, that's not something we care about.
@@mezmerism107 i know English more compare to my both national and ethnic language and it's the third language i learned
@@bromicorn that's good.
@@mezmerism107 it's good when i'm surrounded with English speakers it's not too good when i go outside,i forgot the word when i was about to say them and i know it in english, my brain just malfunctioned and keep trying to make me speak English
Learning languages are more than learning words and grammars, it comes with the whole package of stereotype, mindset, culture, habit, etc etc.
It's understandable, really.
Yes, but only if you learn them from the natives.
People from India/Pakistan for example, most of them don't learn English from the natives so they have their own distinct characteristic.
casual Indonesian/indonesian slang in general sound rough and have a lot of rough consonants and expletives so yeah it does come off as aggressive.
Malaysian slang: first time?
It could just be the language, for example Vietnamese. My family likes to joke that when we/people speak Vietnamese, we either are louder or sound like we are arguing.
Not really, but i feel that hana tend to speak indonesian in a condescending tone. I like it though 👌
*me laugh in Middle Eastern accent*
We sounds like we want to wage a war 24/7
its more like region influence i think
every region in indonesia have their own quirk when they are speaking bahasa, some region could make bahasa sounds really rude and loud and some region could make it really polite and so on, hana's bahasa is most likely influenced by the region that made bahasa sounds snarky
@@yoshidasaki17703 can relate i have a close friend that is a batak and a catolic (oh btw im a javanese muslim) and boy is it hard to keep track to what he saying bechause his accent regarding the fact that both of us speak in indonesian
*aggressive SEA noises*
DUDEEE i really felt that fucking burn when she said "maaf ya aku bukan wibu" goddamn..
Kena roast bung
When I speak in Cantonese I become this grumpy old 50 year old
Lmao
The same when i speak mandarin
Yup, with mandarin I sound like an old woman complaining in a shop because the apples are not red enough or something xD
Lmao
Me Who's indo :
"Wdym thats normal"
"I always gets bullied everywhere ;)"
Dude.. calm down :D
Lmao im sry dude
She literally becomes a brat when she speaks indonesian..
This is an absolute win
different language, different personality. Literally me
How many language you can speak???
Me when speaking English : lawful good
Me when speaking Indonesia : chaotic neutral
Me when speaking Javanese : the evil itself
just like how east java and west java sounds different when speaking.
Waiting for Hana "misuh" in Surabayan
@@zakariaahmadfauzan926 coba dibilang "Cok Jaran"
And then there's the Madurans
Bahasa Banjar malah ngerap
because they two different tribe....sunda and java....tried east java and yogya...far different...
Just like how Calli sounds like she came from the hood when speaking English, but sounds so polite when speaking Japanese
I guess different languages gives you its original personalities eh?
This is true! Depends on the language they speak their personality tunes according to how comfortable they are using the language.
I don't understand Calli's wigger-ness
You wanna mean-ass toned Japanese speech? FilthyFrank got you covered 😂🤣
Calli sounds a lot more tame when she isn't streaming, that's just a part of the character she plays. Like during that Trash Taste podcast she was on she sounded a lot more normal than during her streams.
I always wonder what Calli's English sounds like to non-native speakers ; to native speakers she sounds very dorky and trying too hard to be cool (which is extremely endearing and an important part of her character). To non-native speakers does she genuinely sound cool?
If her indonesian really sounds that hearsh then I'm wondering how she got accepted at her job interview lol
just speak formally in Indonesian don't use your accent in your interview it will ruin your reputation lol
it's not hard to do
She did say in this very clip that she tried to be cute but it makes her not herself anymore and she escaped to her comfort zone of speaking English.
I have different personalities when talking in different languages, for example, when I'm speaking in English, I have a more calm, understanding personality, then when I'm speaking in Indonesian, I bust out 10 different curse words in 3 seconds.
Bro, same.
i can relate
As an Indonesian, man she speaks so much nicer than most of us lmao. The way many people talk is usually seen as ‘mean’ in other places, but here? We’re not formal at all-
Candanya kuli. Awokawokawok.
Edit: To be fair, I like snarky characters. So I don't mind seeing her do be like that.
Personally i like sassy and snarky girl mainly bechause it was really fun to tease them and like when i teasing my sister in law
Its fine, shes not fully know Indo language as a whole so some leeway is very much needed
Her Indonesian is ten fold better than me. And my first language Is bahasa melayu brunei lol
@@siafilia3935 is there any difrent between melayu brunei and melayu malaysia?
I am an indonesian btw just asking
@@Seri-tt3tf oh boy, man there's a whole lot of difference between the two. Its like speaking a different language. The many slangs that Indonesians use makes it even more harder for us to understand and speak. Whenever I play with my Indonesian friends, we ended up speaking in English or I ask them to speak Indonesian formally lol
@@siafilia3935 yeah i can relate like you can go to difrent province IN THE SAME ISLAND mind you and people either get offended by your way of speaking or they just chuckle at you.
It just so many slang and leeway for indonesian it actually hard if you tried to learn the slang instead stopping after learn the formal bahasa indonesia
@@siafilia3935 fun fact, you never speak or talk to person with formal indonesian
Ngl, as a spanish speaker I dont mind that "mean" or harsh indonesian hana because my language is also quite rude and the people are even more rude, but the fact is that when you change languages you also switch nationalities (aka cultures), so your personality to others might change too.
Hana always sounded atractive to me regardless of language tho, not in a creepy way but in a "cool and fun person to hang out that attracts your attention" kind of way. She is one of the few streamers/vtuber that I can actually watch and listen to without being bored regardless of her just rolling some virtual dice lol
Ah yes the term "judes" or "bitchy" in indonesia is basicly the killer point if you are a woman in indonesia, even if you have good look if you have that attitude it will hard for you to get boyfriend bechause people in general just dont like near you
I mean, personality wise bitchy I can get, but purely because how ye- ah, now that I think about it. It is annoying to hear people that are "Ye know like, that guy was toootallly nailing her like, _totally_ portsiding her like." Speaking in this kind of manner. Even if said folk aren't actually bitchy, just raised to speak in that manner.
@@Elmithian in my personal experience i have a classmate that talk like that and act pretty much like a bitch and everyone in the class rarely talk to her exept me that like to annoy or disturb her bechause i was that sadistic and bechause its so entertaining seeing her rage and she loosing her mind all over the place
I might add, been having some friends who naturally judes.
yeah that Judes attitude usually associated with the worst kinda ppl, someone who is not so pretty but too arrogant to see that herself. this is so common and they would offend so much ppl with their attitude.
but sometimes its a defense mechanism, umm lets just say the prettiest/most popular girl in the campus, have that judes attitude, because it really helps them to ward off unwanted ppl, esp when shes single, and some rude random dude just SKSD (start hitting at her) she shut them off with one or two sentences and we never see them again. as her friends we know she be so mean because theres too many randos just deliberately annoy her to get her attention.
now this is what i see in that " Maaf ya aku bukan wibu" a natural defense mechanism in some girls.
@@yunaraginda dude yeah, I sometimes do that to catcallers or other randos... Even I put up bitchy face too
I guess it's just psychological thing that we change personality(voice tones, behaviour etc.) When we switch languages. To be freaking honest, I kinda have a meaner(?) Personality when I talk in English but whenever I talk in Korean/Japanese I'm behaving more polite and sometimes it came as cute pastelly(?) Personality.
It's just how it is , when i speak english people told me "its like talking to a different person"
5:27 that's being mean? I talk like that with homies everyday, lol
Yeah, but with complete stranger that's mean
@@houseoffoam But strangers know sarcasm right? Like it doesnt really take enstein here to realize shes joking.
@@rezaldievergreen5266 i think you miss my point dude
@@rezaldievergreen5266 people who dont know you well won't know that's sarcasm though.
@@rezaldievergreen5266 You shouldn't use sarcasm with strangers. In most languages and cultures it won't go well.
There's a study that people who speak multiple lanuages tend to associate different personalities to each laguage they speak, so I wouldn't be surprised if she's mean in indonesian.
5:23 if this considered as rude, then i have been like a psychopath my entire life
Hana: In indonesian, if you using a wrong tone, people could think you're mean
Me: wait, tone matters in indonesian ?
My Friends who think I'm always mean: always has been
Shit meme, use more than two brain cells
@@plaguis1391 Shit response, use a braincell
shit braincells use more memes
When the anime girl realizes she's actually a Tsundere.
5:24 The tone was flat and stern with a quick execution, aka a savage respond. Intonation really play a huge role in verbal communication. Thats why we need to understand people. Some are just pure asshat and some are just trying their best to be friendly but it mislead.
yeah I can literally picture her speaking Indonesian as a dominating woman, while English she's an outgoing teenage girls lmao.
"Someone puts 'Indonesia' in their video title"
Indonesians = "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
Languages are like clothes / uniform.
You can feel like a different person with different personality just by putting them on. Some clothes just won't allow you to move (or think) freely. Some clothes feels more fitting for the situation, while some feels comfortable to wear than others.
That's a really great analogy. For example, some languages have words that describe something better than another language.
@@UNIT0918 yes! I notice that Deutsche have a lot of words to describe some feelings other language can't, just by combining two words, like schadenfreude: the feeling of joy upon seeing other people's suffering (schaden = harm, freude = joy).
And Language also shape how we think. People says it's hard to be sarcastic if you're speaking standard, Tokyo dialect Japanese,for whatever reason.
That sounds completely normal when you compare it to Indonesian RUclipsrs speaking Indonesian
Well, Atleast she doesn't say the J-word
JANC-
-UOKK!!!
When you learn the language definitely has an effect on the tone.
Say you grow up using korean then in your teens you speak english, chances are your korean will sound softer than when you speak in english. That or vice versa, depending from person to person.
As indonesian, when im speaking Bahasa i almost never swear, in English tho? I swear quite a lot.
@@biowbe4522 Can relate deeply. When I swear in Indonesian, I feel like I just come out as extremely rude and impolite. But to swear in English is a whole different thing. I feel like swear words in English just don't hold as much impact for me compared to Indonesian that I can just it a lot comfortably without being scared I might offend anyone.
@@biowbe4522 same tho, even fuck and ngentot have a same meaning but i feel like when i swearing using "ngentot" i sounds like a hell hound
I find that compared to other SEA language, indonesian is really... how to say it, staccato?? It sounds like a railgun. We talk FAST fast. I think that plays a role in why it sounds "mean"
"Agressive" That's how my friend from Britain described me when I switch to Indonesian
Hana : *"I just sound like I bully people a lot?"*
Boni must be like *"Sound like? U serious??"* xD
Really? I don't feel like Hana is that grumpy or mean when she's speaking Indonesian. Indonesian people are quite famous with their friendliness afterall.
Except when she's swearing in Indonesian lol
7:38 Oh hey, it's Hitsuji!
SIMP!
Ini Indonesian have a lots cultural differences in each region, The difference in tone may offend some people
In Indonesian if you are close to someone, your chaotic self would uhh, show up and that just mean that indonesian is chaotic at heart in a positive way
Most of us are chaotic good or lawful evil. We sound like we're pissed as hell but we chill.
True, when I speak Indonesian I came off as rude and such and when I speak English, I came off as a rather doubtful and chill person.
Well, that is how I see it, don't know what other people see of it...
Actually, I think she sounds serious when talking Indonesian.
"maaf ya aku bukan wibu"
shit, it hurts
"kampret she's not one of us"
When I speak I'm English I'm just like "yes quennnnn" and stuff like that
When I speak German I'm like
Super polite funny
When I speak Portuguese I'm super funny
When I speak in Japanese I'm just polite, cute and super talkative
In Indonesia, every regions have their own "color" of language. Like when you compare java to north sumatera, it's different. When you compare java to bali, it's different. Even when you compare central java and east java, even if we have nearly same culture it's different.
So how you sound, is it funny, calm, or mean, it's deppend where's region you live
Her: speaks at the intro
Subtitles: is this music?
I like chaotic hana, chaotic hana is best
In humans terms, languages and personalities change as the a user interchangeably use different languages, the primary reason is the environment, style of the Language(slang/dialects, social awareness and hierarchy language also effects if the languages have different level of the same word. I for one speak like a child when I try speaking Bahasa because the version I was taught was mostly derived from children and teenagers, hence my childish language....
Hana when angery in indonesian : *aZu*
Me: why you bully me
Her: I'm speaking in Indonesian
Hana : I sound so mean in Indonesian
Me : Jokes on you I'm into that shit
Thanks for clipped those stream
Ah yes, the interesting part of learning other language, your personality changed.
hana should'nt be scared to speak bahasa, she sounds so normal to me, i think bcs indonesian speak really fast when it comes to bahasa so it sounds more aggressive but it's normal to indonesian, she should'nt insecure about her bahasa it's really fine to me
i just found her, she sounds so lovely and funny
As a person who speaks Mandarin (Chinese Malaysian-style native level), English (Second Language), Bahasa Malaysia (Second Language, not as fluent), and a little bit of Japanese and Northern Malaysian- Hokkien (Foreign Language level)... I can confirm that every morning I hold senate meetings with my 5 different personalities to decide what breakfast should I eat. XD
She's just our cute lil goblin, and you guys know it
i know, we are TOXIC as hell. BUT some how we proud of it.
The term you're looking for is BAR BAR
it's so cute of her to notice Hitsuji the clipper
*Flashback hana swears(ngeGASS) in Indonesian compilation
I'm Indonesian and the only times I use Indonesian is when I argue or like saying insults. It feels more comfortable to say more "insults" in Bahasa than in English. in my opinion I think it's because when saying in Indonesian it's not exactly like a direct insult, more like you're joking around or having fun.
true
Normal hana is better than seiso hana, so i hope she never changes
No i definitely felt that.. sometime the language can affect how we process the thought and formulate the word.. it just come out like that. It is different when you talk in javanese and sundanese
6:55
Itu di chat ada yg bilang "Kita mah maho" wkwkwkk
Rajin bener lu njir liatin chatnya
"Gaaaaay"
Lol
najis beud ngondek ngajak2
3:25 The same is true for America, though...
It will back to the society of the language we learned from in my perspective
oh man i live in tangerang for my whole life, went to uni in tangerang and met bunch of scholarship students who came from other islands, usually remote areas. i was making like a joke, a common one here in tangerang and they thought i was angry and im like "hAH APAAN SIH WEH KAGA ANJIR???????", and they labelled me as galak as well eVEN THOUGH IM SPEAKING IN THE SAME WAY FOR LIKE MOST OF MY LIFE
Nevermind languages, even accents can do something like that too.
Like when I'm afraid, scared, or shy, I tend to speak with no accent / American accent. But when I speak with British accent, I'm very confident for no apparent reason lol.
I use a Scottish voice when I'm trying to be confident. It goes from slight to comical depending on what I'm doing. Dnd night gets the really loud and stereotypical one.
It's scientifically proven tho that your personality is changed a bit when you're speaking another language and your native language will more likely sounds more rude to you
Woe you sounds cool
the language you uses changes a lot how you express yourself because the phrases constructs in different ways.
For me, thats f normal coz i live in north sumatra(Medan) 😂
eyyoooo same hhh
Bawaannya klu pake bahasa indo logatnya masih ada wkwkwk
*The fact that she doesnt sound mean when speaking Indonesian*
I aint from Indo.
Aku dari Malaysia-
Do you speak Malay?
Mengapa kamu masih bilang Indonesia dengan sebutan Indo?
@@sakukuratabinbohkekal-faki4248 Yes I speak Malay. My friends helped me to understand Indonesian. Im still learning on how to speak Indo.
i like how the subtitles first say "[music]
"Hana sounds mean when speaking Indonesian."
Us Indonesians be like : " *A M A T E U R* "
She didn't sound mean to me tho, she didn't even swear.
@@YutaOkkotsu3-7 you... Responded to your own comment that you just made a few seconds ago?
@@msiio wouldn't be funny if I put it on the comment.
If you're a vtuber and your avatar in your *Free Talk* stream isn't big like this 11:16, why bother?
well, when a person (some of them) use bahasa but with slowed intonation, it was sign that they got a bad mood.
try speak indonesian fast, like agung hapsah did
Heck even her voice sounds very different
*But That's The Best Part :D*
Jokes aside having multiple persona like that if anything,it makes her more "unique"
I didn't notice a change at all, Just the same soft calm voice maybe its just a bit deeper but nothing other than that.
Well, i think i know what kind of circle she had in college, and prob that's why she sound so mean. 😂😂
Im indonesian and personally i dont really find her tone "mean", it seems pretty normal to me :D
I FEEL YOU HANA D,X
this is perfectly normal here in indonesia, as someone who grew up in a circle of friends who annoyingly assume im always angry whenever i speak and at the slightest change of tone even though im not really anything but happy and feeling great seeing them some people just give off a very intimidating tone towards others. Look at Moona for example.
kelamaan di jaksel itu mah
yep yep. in indonesia (specifically in java, since i'm not too sure about other island's culture)--
calling your friends with insults, swear words and animal names are common, especially with close friends (the harsher you do it, shows how much closer you are with them)
That's what we are, hana
Embrace it
Even in Indonesian, some normal words can even counted as "offensive" for some
For an example "Anjing" (Dog) used alot to insult someone
I mean that's also how it is in English.
Hana haven't heard an australian trying to say indonesian words, it sounds weird
Okay, i could felt that sharp turn on the personality there. I think you kinda give the people the impression of 'Jutek'
Hana: *squawking*
Caption: [music]
she's not moaning, she's just *ngeden*
Gw dikamar mandi adek gw nanya "A, ngapain A dikamar mandi, berak?" Gw jawab dengan "Nghh"