David Eagleman - Powers of the Subconscious
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2015
- How significant is the subconscious? Though Freudian psychology is mostly discredited, most of our mental activity is indeed subconscious.
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When I was 13 I had what I call my Matrix moment..I was one of a small group of kids who couldn’t swim and this bothered me. At the start of school summer holidays I went to bed and had such a powerful dream that I could swim. I woke up that morning knowing I could swim…I grabbed my swimming gear and ran to the outdoor pool 3 miles away and jumped in..I started swimming immediately. This dream felt so powerful and it was my subconscious working for my benefit.
I love this guy! He’s so passionate about neuroscience - whether he was free willed to do so or not - and explains complicated issues about our brain in an easy to understand way.
"the only reason it seems effortless is because there is so much effort behind it" - what a great quote!
David Eagleman is the man
I'm Neither A Man Nor The Man!
Indeed. An Eagle man.
He is eagle
He is a true genius And an incredible teacher and generous with his knowledge.
what for?
Beautiful young man with a beautiful mind🧡
The Analogy of the Brain running like a company was amazing. Perfect way to end.
So amazing!
You are great sir and awesome also
You may not have access to all of your unconscious mental processes, but they certainly do have access to your consciousness.
Absolutely superb explanation. I would leasten for you guys for hours and I will not be a second bored. You a great!
David is a brilliant man, he really sat down and thought about the awareness of life/reality.
but although we dont seem to have access to them, there are of course phenomenons like NLP and hypnosis.. which are very very interesrting..
Please dr david eagleman explain with diagram about concious mind and subconcious mind in details.what are the advantages to human being?
David Eagleman, you have the right idea. But you need the work and something else - more than one.
Of course we have free will. And it is the determining factor. We may have no input in the thought our mind creates. But we have 100% freewill on whether to act on the thought or to believe the thought or not.
Not really. Our unconscious serves up its decision to our conscious mind, which thinks that IT is making the decision. In fact, the unconscious made the decision and the conscious mind just believes that it is in charge.
After underdanding this, I no longer get mad at myself (weird idea, huh) for doing something. I was only doing as ordered.
But am I ultimately responsible if I do something bad? Can I blame it on my unconscious? I am responsible. Society can't throw just my unconscious in jail or fine it. I am responsible for my decisions.
Well, where does the decision come from, that you decided for B instead of A? We can't choose our emotional preferences. If we could, those decisions would also be determindey by emotional preferences. To prefer chocolate over vanilla is the same as going to the gym instead of going to a party: in that moment, what do you have to do with the fact that you prefered going to the gym over going to the partying? "Well, I was tempted to go to the party, but I chose against it!", you could say. No, you chose nothing, it was chosen for you. In that moment it was more important to go to the gym than going to the party and you could nothing do about it. We can't want what we want. Everything, our decisions, impulses, preferences, thoughts and emotions are coming out of the dark, like hick-ups. If you look closely, we are just the watchers of this coming and going, the monitor rather than it's content.
I get my personal responsibility out of two things: the law of cause and effect (everything I do has an impact) and the fact, that I can't know what will happen next ( I can't know my fate so to speak). But as soon as I look back, I just try to get the lesson, drop the rest and give life my best shot (in fact, we always move through life giving it our best shot, nothing we can do about it ;)).
@Tony G
The Consciousness and Brain how it works is explained long back in the earliest Veda (the Rig Veda Samhita) range between 3500 BCE years by Indian sages. Refer the video given below which explains it.
ruclips.net/video/VmyPKI2Jk-4/видео.html
Samkhya-Yoga Research on psi phenomena (parapsychology and psychic phenomena are used as synonyms here) has produced a huge body of results that were collected largely in carefully controlled trials (e.g., Utts, 1991). However, almost all of these studies were not concerned with the impact of yoga practice or meditation, and quite often had undergraduates (and not advanced practitioners of yoga) as participants.
We cannot provide a comprehensive overview of all these research results, old and new, for want of space (see Radin, 2006, 2013; Rao, 2010, for such overviews, and May, 1995, 1996; Targ, 2012; Radin, 2013, p. 268, for some striking anecdotal examples), but we will summarize the results of research traditions within psi research that have produced enough studies to allow for meta-analyses.
@@The22on hmmmm ... maybe not. if this was the case then could we ever change? Can we change what our unconscious, subconscious or conscious minds tell us what to do? The whole law is based on that. If I can't change, then that is nihilism
@@templecloud581 We can say whatever we think, no one knows the answers on these things. We can look at origin, but that does not mean I am trapped by fate/determinism. Today I prefer chocolate over vanilla, tomorrow I prefer vanilla over chocolate, the next day I prefer a combination of both. I am not limited to or bound by set choices, I am free, not enslaved
We can do whatever we want but we can not determine what we will want : )
well we actually can ..we have pretty much the same thoughts that we had a day before so tomorrow you will do pretty much what you do today and what you done yesterday
Unless, of course, you work at inputting (programming) your mind conciously over time with constructive, positive and healthy habits in thought and action. Doing supra, will train your subconscious to return results to your concious mind that will be the sum of all the input and action creating a better you that makes better decisions on limited cues in the present.
In thay way, one can influence not only consciousness but also the future of consciousness and decision making.
Our brains consist of sets of neural networks which construct our internal models mostly in unconscious processes. It's starts from inputs like our eyes detecting light and our ears detecting vibrations in air and our bodies, and our brains take that input data in tiny pieces and detect patterns it.
Those patterns e.g. in visual input can start from elementary parts like straight lines, any kind of movement to some direction etc. From those elementary parts emerge larger patterns, which may or may not have some meaning to us. Patterns like shape of an eyebrow, or a box, or ray of light, or shadow. And from those emerge even more complex patterns and objects.
Eventually all those parts add up to our internal models of which we become at least partially conscious of. The process of creating an internal model involves unconscious parts of our brains making a lot of assumptions and educated guesses, and sometimes they're wrong. Assumptions are necessary for us to function effectively and illusions are merely situations where the assumptions have led our internal models to disagree with reality.
We think about things before we think about them
walter bishop certainly we decide or make up our mind about things before we "think about them" at least in many cases.
Where does the brand new IDEA come from? do we create it? or it just appears in our mind out of no-where?
Marwan Abdullah David Lynch (the filmmaker/artist) says "Ideas Come To Us... from The Ether..."
Determinism defined: if I am determined that I have free will, I do. If I am determined that I don't have free will, I don't.
This may or may not be empirically provable, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that if you don't believe that you have free agency, you will act according, that is, meekly and passively, and as a result you will get your ass kicked by life and by those who do believe that they have free will and who act accordingly, that is, with goal-oriented, mission-focused discipline and persistence. So however self-contradictory it may be, free choice is, finally, a matter of free choice. So embrace the paradox and proactively start making your life happen rather than passively waiting for it to happen.
Many people say that to me that I need to access more of my brain
So is there a CEO sitting somewhere around the central lateral thalamus region then?
nothing to do with what they're talking about, but our bodies are the earth, and brain is the universe, I'll explain like our bodies and the earth we've figured out quite a bit, but like the universe and brain we've figured out basically nothing, master the brain it will take places you couldn't even imagine. become one with everything and everyone to experience this, forgive, and try to look at things from every possible angle you can think of. if anyone wants more detail to what I'm talking about, you can talk to me in person.
cvetko jovcevski explain it more. Please
Good wisdom/share with us more ++
Curiously, if 1/3 of our brain is dedicated to activities associated with sight, how does it work with people with no sight?
Sabata XYZ he talk about that in " incognito: the secret lives of the human brain" spoiler alert: it has to do with how blind people have heightened senses of the 4 they have left
that free real estate is taken over by other senses
Our brain is like a big ship going at high speed through the waters of time. The route is the result of all our decisions made in the past and of the environmental influence. The consciousness by means of free will cannot change the course all of the sudden but rather in small steps. I believe it's possible to change the course a lot, but you need for this a strong will and a lot of time so that the program for the tape your subconsciousness is running may become re-written step by step. All people are conscious beings and all are able to think, but the most of us don't think enough or even refuse to think sometimes. To decide not to think, not to pray or not to meditate is also a conscious decision.
If free will is partial then it's not 'free.' Free will is so incoherent...
Going along with Eagleman's thoughts here, his conclusions then are largely not a product of rational thought but rather mostly a product of deterministic systems. Systems that could be correct or incorrect. On what basis then, is scientific investigation itself, a valid, rational exercise?
+madmax2976 What is rationality and why can't deterministic system be rational ?
Rational - "in accordance with reason or logic."
I never suggested that deterministic systems couldn't be "rational" rather I noted that, if Eagleman is correct, any conclusions would not be a result of his conscious,rational deliberation, but rather simply how the underlying deterministic systems caused him to think. Systems that could lead to correct or incorrect conclusions.
Going with this idea, is it not a mistake to consider ourselves responsible for adhering to scientific methodologies and the conclusions that we derived from them?
+madmax2976 If reason and logic are things that can also arise out of the the same lines of thought, it can be rational I think.
"underlying deterministic systems caused him to think" -- I think this might be misleading - deterministic systems did not cause him to think, but rather a deterministic is him. Whether it is the deterministic thing that is talking (or not), as you say rationality is reason and logic, if he has reason and logic to back up the thoughts, in addition to claims, he can claim to be rational and/or be seen as one.
But I also think there are some limits to what science can claim. The claim for lack of free will is one that breaks it for the reason you mentioned. The only problem is, there is no positive reason for the other claim of having free will, other than- we feel like it.
Infinitiely I think one "positive reason" for free will is that we experience that we do have it. But I'm willing to consider this is illusory - in which case - as many who deny it's existence have claimed, there would be no moral responsibility. I submit there would also be no emotional responsibility, no scientific responsibility - no responsibility of any kind. The alternative is cherry picking what we are responsible for.
I think Eagleman is essentially arguing that our conscious selves aren't responsible for a lot of the things we think and do - and perhaps none of the things we think and do. We may essentially be automatons. This is an idea to consider but it means our conscious selves wouldn't be responsible for any scientific conclusions we make either, including that we are automatons.
+madmax2976 "If no free will --> no responsibility" itself does not work without free will. It is as if -because we have no free will, we'll use our free will to not have responsibilities. Once the state is that we have no free will, we can't make any implication, linkage or rational, (well you can, but can't consistentently claim it to be something that must be valid as a result in absolute sense, although argument can be made that there is no useful world beyond what we can see and how we explain it - where rationality gets new meaning from the previous).
For same reason, can't use science to show there is no free will. But it does show in many cases, our feeling of free will are predictable before it is available to our consciousness.
And yes, I also think the same about what Eagleman arguing. But I don't think it goes that far. It could be that we are deterministic autonomous system, but we certainly exhibit consciousness, it is something that is in the chain for building some scientific conclusion. Like the last comment, I would say, it's not that a deterministic system is controlling consciousness, but the deterministic system in question is consciousness. So, consciousness is probably responsible unless it is very separate and only function as the story we tell ourselves.
As Nietsche said: Es denkt in mir
:)
What amazes me is that when you have an itch on some part of your body, your brain knows exactly where it is. When you go to scratch the itch, you can hit the spot exactly. You can plant the tip of your fingernail right on top of the itch.
Watch more of Dave the video is played to be he looks good
Europe came to know this recently rest of the world were already mediating eg India
what about the brain's plasticity?
You are your brain and it makes choices based on current conditions and future projections. Not really that complicated.
All your videos have very low sound volume. Pls fix thanks.
The argument seems to be that people have no agency. This is only partly true. These arguments lead to a conservative view of human nature, which I think is flawed.
That is not what he is saying. We have agency, a small amount thereof, through which we can alter political, economic structures to such an extent that the next generation and/ or others will have different experiences than we do, ie. we can alter the functioning of other neurological humans. So that's quite important, I think, for establishing better tomorrows
Science doesn’t accept that there is a soul, so they are amazed at their mechanical reductionism. Slot machine creativity.
@S r , The Consciousness and Brain how it works is explained long back in the earliest Veda (the Rig Veda Samhita) range between 3500 BCE years by Indian sages. Refer the video given below which explains it.
ruclips.net/video/VmyPKI2Jk-4/видео.html
Samkhya-Yoga Research on psi phenomena (parapsychology and psychic phenomena are used as synonyms here) has produced a huge body of results that were collected largely in carefully controlled trials (e.g., Utts, 1991). However, almost all of these studies were not concerned with the impact of yoga practice or meditation, and quite often had undergraduates (and not advanced practitioners of yoga) as participants.
We cannot provide a comprehensive overview of all these research results, old and new, for want of space (see Radin, 2006, 2013; Rao, 2010, for such overviews, and May, 1995, 1996; Targ, 2012; Radin, 2013, p. 268, for some striking anecdotal examples), but we will summarize the results of research traditions within psi research that have produced enough studies to allow for meta-analyses.
The 'Over-Consciousnes', is our Eternal Consciousness,
it holds the Under-Consciousness,
as consist of our Day-Consciousness and Night-Consciousness.
'sub-consciousness' is out-dated.
0:22 The Majority, Vast Majority Of What We Think, Do, And Believe Is Generated By Parts Of Our Brain That We Have No Acquaintance With, No Access To At All...
4:34 This Is What I Believe. Why Do I Believe This? Why Do I Vote This Way? Well, That's Just The Kind Of Person I Am. It's Correct And So On. But Of Course Someone Else...People Have Very Different Realities On The Inside And Irrespective Of Their Conscious Narratives...There...Really It Has To Do With Stuff Much Deeper Down...That's Right. Usually We Have No Access As To Why We Believe Those Things That We Do And, In Fact, They Are A Very Complicated, Untangleably Complicated Interaction Of Genetics And Environment. By Which I Mean The Genes You Come To The Table With Mixed With Every Experience You've Ever Had, Including The Environment In Utero (In Your Mother's Womb) And The Led Paint On The Walls And The Abuse As A Child And The Experiences You Had And The Culture You're Embedded In. All Of Those Things Set Brains Off On Different Trajectories And Then You Feel Like You're A Certain Type Of Person.
5:22 LISTEN (We Are All Essentially Automatons)
6:06 We Probably Don't Have FREE WILL...6:40 If We Do Have Any FREE WILL At All It Has Very Little Play In The Wheel. It's A Bit Player In The System Of The Brain.
Is this Tobey Maguire in disguise?
When did Freudian psychology become "mostly discredited"?
I wonder how the Hand Sanitizer bias would test in 2022
I'm sure this Chad has measured how much hand sanitizer was used
Hmmmm... not very informative involving powers of the subconscious at all. He was using analogies to compare what the sub conscious mind is like in comparison.
Powers of the subconscious mind are things such as our hidden memory banks from every single thing that they we have ever done and everything that we have ever seen and heard are stored there.
Another power is how our bodies are working together 24/7 in regards to digestion, dreaming, breathing. We actually do forget to breathe all of the time, thankfully, our sub conscious does it for us. Our daily habits that we have developed through repetition and reinforcement come from our sub conscious mind and making those actions a routine.
Also, all of our thoughts and ideas come from our sub conscious mind.
No jordan peterson
Every time I try to explain to people that maybe murderers and peodophiles or people like hitler, thst it might not a be their fault why they done the things they have done and are the way they are, they always say that I’m defending them and they are evil and I should not excuse them, but they don’t seem to be able to understand that I’m talking about it purely scientifically
Science has nothing to say about fault or blame, guilt or innocence, and since this one individual was the only person in the universe who had control of their own muscles at that moment, it isn't unreasonable to assign blame to that individual. The judge can worry about extenuating circumstances or justifications.
That is true, but from a philosophical perspective and just food for thought, nobody chooses what they do, who they are etc, you might say that someone can choose not to abuse that person, but they have been born with a certain brain and a certain parentage that will determine that they "decide" to do a certain thing
And it goes a hell of a lot deeper and more complex than that also
Was this true or the Diederik Stapel fraud data?
Yes, you do have free will. No one has to be a drunk. No one has to be a mass murderer. You are out of your mind.
Jungle Jargon so being out of their mind is "free will"?
Your brain is actually you! What's wrong with you David?
No David is a want to
Just watched. Who is this high school punk?