Had my Mustang get golf balled once. Had a PDR guy come, well, the body shop did, and it looks like it is brand new. If the fellow doing it knows his stuff it can be a huge relief to a car owner and a huge saving. Stay safe guys
Artist at work !Years ago we had a Chevy Avalanche that got hailed badly, over 700 dents .I was sick that it wouldn’t have factory paint until this came along . Amazing craftsmanship.
We had bad hail damage too and hubby’s and son’s cars were dinged everywhere! Our hood, roof and trunk areas were battered and we would have circles all over! It was like cottage cheese/ Swiss cheese! Even my son’s side mirrors were hit so hard that broke pieces all over and I had to tape them back in. Had a few pieces missing still!! Awesome talent- wow loved the fix over the fender right before our eyes! I remember your first video - amazing job and wicker talents indeed! I may need to make a drive.. need to check with GEICO and not going against insurance- glad to hear that he waves the deductible, too! Woot! Thanks Tim
I would never make any money at this because i am too much of a perfectionist. I can always still see where the dents were after these guys fix them. I am a professional paint technician by trade (32) years. So for a daily driver car i think that it would be ok but any higher end custom or exotic car you would want it super nice and the only way would be to repair, prime, block, paint, sand and polish. This form of repair definitely has it's place though, Thanks for showing.
I can understand a roof or all in one rear panel. Here in the area of Central Wisconsin, the cost of pointless dent repair.... Well, let's just say that often, the amount is more than buying a new panel. But as I said, certain areas aren't easily replaceable. This is why learning how to manage it yourself or at least giving it a shot can save you a fair amount of money that can go into other things. Having them work with insurance is super nice. Haven't found one yet around here. Always keeping am eye out.
Down here in Texas PDR is much less if you pay cash. But, if insurance is involved they accept what the insurance pays but in most cases you don't have to pay the deductible. It makes a lot of sense too because you don't have to have paint work, replacement panels, etc. Seems to be better for the value of the car too.
Back in the 60's, my Dad had a body shop....he had to mark every hail dent with a piece of masking tape and got paid ONE DOLLAR PER DENT....Grind, fill and paint...
Always wondered if there's any difference with aluminum panels versus steel when it comes to hail, and repair? Ford pioneered the light duty pickup line with aluminum, others tried mocking it's weakness, until they started using aluminum.
If there is ever any damage to the paint it will b upon trying to push it up too fast. If hail Dents is fixed correctly, there is no future problems w/my repair. If there was I wouldn’t be called back time & time again for my service.
It really is. It's just amazing to me. I don't know. Most PDR guys tend to work solo because the have a lot of down time in between storms. But, you can always call him and ask.
I was taught you have to relieve the tension around the dent when using traditional hammer and dolly to keep it from returning. Do you ever have to do that?
Yes we have to beat the “eyebrow “ down around the dent before we start pushing the dent out from backside. It helps relieve the pressure on the metal that we are pushing.
Lol, the metal is so thin you can just iron it out with your hands. I wondered why they stopped selling body work tools around town. Hammer obviously not needed now.
The metal on modern vehicles is so thin, both to reduce weight for better fuel economy and to cut production costs and increase profits for the manufacturers. I wonder if dent repairs like the ones demonstrated can be done with 1960's and older vehicles whose metal is much thicker?
No the older steel has no memory and is thicker so you will just put a bunch of outward dents trying to do it. The only way to do it correctly on older cars is the old school tried and true method. Repair, prime, block, paint, cut and polish. I restore cars for a living (32) years and have dealt with this problem, but on later model vehicles it works well. you can easily dent a modern vehicle by just applying pressure with just a finger or knuckle, it is very flimsy and is meant to crush like a beer can on impact.
I would add that hundreds of thousands have died as a result of the govs quest for better fuel economy and corporate profits. It is not uncommon to see cars split in half lengthwise or widthwise. There is no way today's cars are safer. They have turned into death traps and their better safety claim is a lie.
Yeah. This guy is awesome! Just sent a company truck over to him today and a friend of mine over there tomorrow. I'm sure you can find a good PDR guy near you. Good luck Mickey.
What this guy doesn't mention is the Paintless Dent Repair Industry developed that price chart, not insurance companies. Most insurance companies don't replace welded on panels unless the damage is severe. Very large hail dents often crack the paint in the edge of the dent, and the panel may show rust later after the PDR is done.
On my son's 2022 Corolla the insurance adjuster had a full roof replacement from the hail damage. Fortunately Heath fixed it up as good as new. Fortunately, of the $30k in hail damage repair over the past 6 or 7 years we have never had a rust issue.
@@DadsCars There are good techs who can repair almost anything. As an Insurance Appraiser, which I was for the largest auto insurer, for 33 years, I wrote estimates based on the skill level of the average technician in a given market. I have estimated probably 10,000 or more hail damaged cars. I am a big proponent of PDR, performed by quality techs. Unfortunately, a lot of these "storm chasers" don't do the greatest work, since they will be long gone if problems do come up later.
I will look into setting up with him again and doing a bigger project. Most people these days won't watch 5 minutes. But, let me see what I can do Fred.
Yeah, Gary. I would be so bad at this. I don't have the patience. I want to go A to Z as quickly as possible. Takes a different kind that me. That's for sure.
This is plain both you know what I had a car with hail damage they couldn't fix it they made a mess worsen all day made more of a mess out of it then it was don't let him fool you trying to tell you they can get all these dents out it's impossible
Depends who does the work. There are a lot of fly by night people out there in the PDR world just like the storm chasers in roofing. Heath has done about $40k in hail and dent work for me now and I have not ever been not 100% satisfied. And I am super picky. Thanks Norm.
We are limited by the size of the damage. Yes ,sometimes the damage is too bad and it will be less expensive to replace parts than to PDR the damage. We have size limitations on Hail here in Texas.
Now if you are referring to a car with bad paint and giving it a good paint job then obviously that would increase the value. But, if you are talking about the value of a car that has had hail damage and they fill it, paint it or cut the roof or panels off and paint then there is a fairly sizable difference in the value of the vehicle. So, I guess it depends on what you are specifically referring to. His comment is about repairing hail damage. And he is absolutely correct in the context of this video.
Try to resale a car that has been repainted. I see all the paint fish eyes and color mismatch paint. Our biggest selling point is we keep factory paint on your vehicle.
Had my Mustang get golf balled once. Had a PDR guy come, well, the body shop did, and it looks like it is brand new. If the fellow doing it knows his stuff it can be a huge relief to a car owner and a huge saving. Stay safe guys
Thanks. Appreciate the comment and you be safe too my friend.
Artist at work !Years ago we had a Chevy Avalanche that got hailed badly, over 700 dents .I was sick that it wouldn’t have factory paint until this came along . Amazing craftsmanship.
I couldn't agree more!
We had bad hail damage too and hubby’s and son’s cars were dinged everywhere! Our hood, roof and trunk areas were battered and we would have circles all over! It was like cottage cheese/ Swiss cheese! Even my son’s side mirrors were hit so hard that broke pieces all over and I had to tape them back in. Had a few pieces missing still!! Awesome talent- wow loved the fix over the fender right before our eyes! I remember your first video - amazing job and wicker talents indeed! I may need to make a drive.. need to check with GEICO and not going against insurance- glad to hear that he waves the deductible, too! Woot! Thanks Tim
Ugh!
Nice demonstration, Great Skills!! Thanks to you both!
@@cordovanbee Thanks so much!
Great job
Yeah. He is very talented. Thanks Bill!
I would never make any money at this because i am too much of a perfectionist. I can always still see where the dents were after these guys fix them. I am a professional paint technician by trade (32) years. So for a daily driver car i think that it would be ok but any higher end custom or exotic car you would want it super nice and the only way would be to repair, prime, block, paint, sand and polish. This form of repair definitely has it's place though, Thanks for showing.
Thanks for the comments Gary. Appreciate it.
The man said he worked for bmw manufacturer, the new car lot was hit with a hailstorm. That's as high up as it gets.
@@childoftruth1738 yes I worked in Leipzig Germany for BMW a few years ago on 3600 new cars . It took us 6 weeks to fix em all.
I can understand a roof or all in one rear panel. Here in the area of Central Wisconsin, the cost of pointless dent repair.... Well, let's just say that often, the amount is more than buying a new panel. But as I said, certain areas aren't easily replaceable. This is why learning how to manage it yourself or at least giving it a shot can save you a fair amount of money that can go into other things. Having them work with insurance is super nice. Haven't found one yet around here. Always keeping am eye out.
Down here in Texas PDR is much less if you pay cash. But, if insurance is involved they accept what the insurance pays but in most cases you don't have to pay the deductible. It makes a lot of sense too because you don't have to have paint work, replacement panels, etc. Seems to be better for the value of the car too.
I'm sure you misspelled the P part of PDR on purpose. Very on point too.
more realistic...
Good area to have a dent repair business, in DENTon Tx. D'oh!
No kidding. Probably the hail capital of something. lol
Great video. Very informative
Thanks Michael.
Back in the 60's, my Dad had a body shop....he had to mark every hail dent with a piece of masking tape and got paid ONE DOLLAR PER DENT....Grind, fill and paint...
WOW. Everything has changed. Average car too was probably around $2k. Look what this stuff goes for these days. Just ridiculous.
This Guy ✅ Is The Cream Of The Crop! What a Resume
Yeah. He really is. Good guy too!
Amazing work!
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, to me it is just magical what they can do.
Pretty cool, saves money too
Saves money and leaves the car in tact.
Very good.
I agree. It's magic what they do.
Fixing hail damage in Dallas myself. Just save a 23 kia sorrento roof from being replaced the other day.
It’s magical to me.
Did you work under a vet? And how much experience do you have? I’m in Dallas too
@@ivanof214 Work under a vet?
Talented
Yes he is. I could never do it. I don't have the patience or the eye for it.
🟥 I was always taught to " ask " the metal to move and not " tell " it.
It's always nice to be polite. LOL
@@DadsCars Aza bulutely
Always wondered if there's any difference with aluminum panels versus steel when it comes to hail, and repair?
Ford pioneered the light duty pickup line with aluminum, others tried mocking it's weakness, until they started using aluminum.
Very good question. I will see if I can get him on here to answer that question.
And, in "Dent"on, Texas too, haa. Thanks
Yeah. Never thought about that. How ironic. LOL
my point is paint is stretched and contracted, in a few months rain and wind will loosen the paint and first a crack and then it will peel and rust
Interesting. I have had multiple cars get significant hail damage and have never had that happen. Thanks for the input Roger. Really appreciate it.
If there is ever any damage to the paint it will b upon trying to push it up too fast. If hail Dents is fixed correctly, there is no future problems w/my repair. If there was I wouldn’t be called back time & time again for my service.
@@heathmitchell7222 I've only been back 6 times. LOL.
@@heathmitchell7222 And everything is always perfect! Like new!
Just amazing, that is a true art form. Are they hiring? I need to quit my job and come work for them.
It really is. It's just amazing to me. I don't know. Most PDR guys tend to work solo because the have a lot of down time in between storms. But, you can always call him and ask.
I was taught you have to relieve the tension around the dent when using traditional hammer and dolly to keep it from returning. Do you ever have to do that?
Very good question Patrick. I will text him and see if he can get on here to answer some questions.
You only need to do that if the dent has a eye brow around it. It is because the tension of the dent is within the eye brow.
Yes we have to beat the “eyebrow “ down around the dent before we start pushing the dent out from backside. It helps relieve the pressure on the metal that we are pushing.
The blue truck hood is like my son and hubby’s car hail damage! U just can’t see as easy with dirt and pollen on it😂
They ya go.
Lol, the metal is so thin you can just iron it out with your hands. I wondered why they stopped selling body work tools around town. Hammer obviously not needed now.
Yeah. No kidding.
Wow!
The metal is so thin in vehicles today is it any wonder why they rust out so fast?!!!
It's just terrible Richard. My son's 2022 Corolla was $24k and it has had $16k in hail damage repairs in 2 hail storms. It is just paper thin.
Do you repair the other side, where you scratched the Ecoat?
Yes...as an adjuster, we add corrosion protection replacement on every PDR estimate.
Thank you for helping with that answer. Appreciate it.
Ecoat has never been any problem/issue since 1995 when I started PDR
The metal on modern vehicles is so thin, both to reduce weight for better fuel economy and to cut production costs and increase profits for the manufacturers. I wonder if dent repairs like the ones demonstrated can be done with 1960's and older vehicles whose metal is much thicker?
No the older steel has no memory and is thicker so you will just put a bunch of outward dents trying to do it. The only way to do it correctly on older cars is the old school tried and true method. Repair, prime, block, paint, cut and polish. I restore cars for a living (32) years and have dealt with this problem, but on later model vehicles it works well. you can easily dent a modern vehicle by just applying pressure with just a finger or knuckle, it is very flimsy and is meant to crush like a beer can on impact.
I would add that hundreds of thousands have died as a result of the govs quest for better fuel economy and corporate profits. It is not uncommon to see cars split in half lengthwise or widthwise. There is no way today's cars are safer. They have turned into death traps and their better safety claim is a lie.
@@lightning9279 Very interesting view. Unfortunately very difficult to know what to believe anymore.
I wish were closer, my bmw got hit last week.
Yeah. This guy is awesome! Just sent a company truck over to him today and a friend of mine over there tomorrow. I'm sure you can find a good PDR guy near you. Good luck Mickey.
What this guy doesn't mention is the Paintless Dent Repair Industry developed that price chart, not insurance companies. Most insurance companies don't replace welded on panels unless the damage is severe. Very large hail dents often crack the paint in the edge of the dent, and the panel may show rust later after the PDR is done.
On my son's 2022 Corolla the insurance adjuster had a full roof replacement from the hail damage. Fortunately Heath fixed it up as good as new. Fortunately, of the $30k in hail damage repair over the past 6 or 7 years we have never had a rust issue.
@@DadsCars There are good techs who can repair almost anything. As an Insurance Appraiser, which I was for the largest auto insurer, for 33 years, I wrote estimates based on the skill level of the average technician in a given market. I have estimated probably 10,000 or more hail damaged cars. I am a big proponent of PDR, performed by quality techs. Unfortunately, a lot of these "storm chasers" don't do the greatest work, since they will be long gone if problems do come up later.
@@alrad5686 Do I ever understand that. Just like some of these roofing guys. Same story. Really appreciate it sir.
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Thank you.
I learned from you thank you Sir 👍
@@jpbassseniorbasssenior323 Glad to hear. That's what it's all about. I learned a lot the time I spend with him that day too.
There is nothing like factory paint.
Agreed!
do the one with all the hail damage.
I will look into setting up with him again and doing a bigger project. Most people these days won't watch 5 minutes. But, let me see what I can do Fred.
At least he lives in an appropriately named town lol. Denton dent repair lol.
No kidding!
Is expensive in my area they wanted to charge me $300 for a penny size dent ridiculous
That is ridiculous.
$100 dime size dent, $125 nickel size ,$150 quarter size,$175 half dollar size dent.
If it was a '57 Chevy you wouldn't have this hail problem.
I bet not. LOL They actually used metal back then. Real metal. LOL
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Amazing stuff.
Lets see some larger hail damage, those were easy.
Yeah. I'm with ya Doug. I know what would happen though...everyone would complain the video was too long. LOL
Easy says you
@@logicalmalethink4925 Yeah. Not a thing in this video was easy to me. I wouldn't ever be able to do this. I don't have the patience.
I would not be satisfied with that last one :/
This is just a demonstration. None of the work was final. Thanks for the comment.
You have to go slow and precise. Trying to push any dent out in one push isn't ever going to look. Thumbs Up!
Yeah, Gary. I would be so bad at this. I don't have the patience. I want to go A to Z as quickly as possible. Takes a different kind that me. That's for sure.
That metal is very thin.
100%. Crazy these days.
This is plain both you know what I had a car with hail damage they couldn't fix it they made a mess worsen all day made more of a mess out of it then it was don't let him fool you trying to tell you they can get all these dents out it's impossible
Depends who does the work. There are a lot of fly by night people out there in the PDR world just like the storm chasers in roofing. Heath has done about $40k in hail and dent work for me now and I have not ever been not 100% satisfied. And I am super picky. Thanks Norm.
We are limited by the size of the damage. Yes ,sometimes the damage is too bad and it will be less expensive to replace parts than to PDR the damage. We have size limitations on Hail here in Texas.
Repainting the car does not devalue the car. 😂
Im a painter/airbrush artist.
I add value when I paint the car.
Dude has no clue.
Now if you are referring to a car with bad paint and giving it a good paint job then obviously that would increase the value. But, if you are talking about the value of a car that has had hail damage and they fill it, paint it or cut the roof or panels off and paint then there is a fairly sizable difference in the value of the vehicle. So, I guess it depends on what you are specifically referring to. His comment is about repairing hail damage. And he is absolutely correct in the context of this video.
Try to resale a car that has been repainted. I see all the paint fish eyes and color mismatch paint. Our biggest selling point is we keep factory paint on your vehicle.
Either these guys or hella body filler
LOL. Or cut off roofs and repaint.
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