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Rapping started in the 1930s and black people was doing it before anyone else.. just because someone was there doesn't mean they were a part of the pioneers.. just because I attend a Mexican party doesn't mean I started that party or that culture
Qdiddy has seriously been dropping the ball with his lack of knowledge and useless commentary; it’s time to rotate him out with someone more knowledgeable who can actually contribute to the conversations.
The first known rap was recorded as far back as 1940 by an African American group called the Jubilares, The band was a gospel group that was formed in 1935 but the first known recording of rap was from this group in 1940. The song was called Noah and the group hailed from Florida USA.
IMO, Anton is wrong about the educational system here in the U.S. The educational system here spends way too much time teaching “History” and other indoctrination courses that does nothing to help these kids get careers. HVAC, Welding, ASE Mechanic, Tech, etc should start by high school.
You don’t even have to go as far as trades. If they say 18 is adult. Schools should be required to teach home ec, tax codes, budgeting, health benefits, banking etc .. and not to say that some schools don’t teach these things but I know a lot don’t.
Sloppy Joe needs to stop this bs👎🏾 Foundational Black American youth gave the world hip hop culture. Our slang, how we dress, our dances, graffiti, etc… Everybody else copied this shit from us! Like Micca said “we not poppin in Regaeton”
QDiddy is right. The victim’s identity will be given to the defense eventually. There is zero reason for the PUBLIC to know her identity…Period. There are standards under the law that both sides need to follow. The public got zero skin in this case.
Bro Anton gotta stop playing stupid. Why bring this topic up when you haven't looked into it at all. Nobody was mad at fat Joe. He's mad at a documentary that went into detail about the origins of hip hop
FBA is a real lineage. Hip hop is just a part of the argument now. People act like being FBA is a crime, and we need to do better. That's why we're dileneating..
Gatekeeping is what they did with Shaboozy at the CMA awards, or them telling Beyoncé that’s not a country album, or them telling lil nas x that old town road is not a country song. Country music gives so many examples of gatekeeping.
Whether a man has graped or been accused of graped, your reputation is ruined. You lose money and spend money at the same time defending yourself. Attorneys win in these situations. That's what everyone forgets about.
When they sent them the letter it was to mediate, no matter what it means to us legally they didn't ask for any money, number two these are powerful people she is autistic and she was 13 at the time, the judge has spoken on the little tricks that Jay-Z's lawyer has been putting and she said you filled out these requests in a combative way and then you're trying to rush the courts when she has other cases to oversee and it doesn't work that way buddy it's on my time and I'm the judge and at some point she will have to be deposed you will know her identity, add the reason there's a little bit of maybe in that it's according to how Jay-Z's team conduct themselves moving forward, because she basically was calling them a bully and they didn't even do the paperwork right, they were acting as if the judge was on their payroll, so if they calm down, they will have the opportunity to know her identity, if they keep up with these shenanigans it might be unsafe for Jane Doe to be identified to Jay-Z, and by the way she was 13 so even if he saw her he wouldn't know her
Listen , the culture of hip hop started in nyc period. I’m tired of people trying to take that or anything from us. Rapping is an art form even before the south. That’s not what we taking on here.
For the guy who commented about the DA…this is a civil case, not criminal. There is no district attorney in a CIVIL case. The attorney for the victim is the plaintiff, not the State. We need some educated folks participating when discussing LAW. Q GOT IT RIGHT.
This dude Anton be over thinking every damn thing. This is why too much of anything can hurt you and this guy shows this by trying o speak on too many topics. Stay on politics bruh. When it comes to blackness stop it.
Defendants face their accusers IN COURT. People like JayZ with money can do things pre trial to victims. The judge made the right call. All this speculation about the victim and Jay Z needs to stop. It’s not up to the public to decide or even participate in the trial. These exact talking points are exactly why we have a judicial system. Otherwise, fans of Jay Z or his wife would never look at the evidence objectively. Lord help us…
What is called Hip Hop today started in New York amongst people of color. But Rhyming in a song has gone on forever. Quit reengineering history. Why are young people trying to tell us what happened when you didn’t live through it. Sit back and learn. Look at where Hip hop surfaced.
Exactly! Lots of breaking came from Disco and rapping/rhyming started decades before hip-hop came together. It was just put together with the two turntables in front of a crowd by Grand Master Flowers in the late 60's.
Anton, your views and thoughts doesn’t make things 100% “Facts or Being True”. You should stop discrediting people who see things differently than you. Even when you’re wrong, you’ll take the argument from the opposer, add a word or two and say, that’s what you were saying or meant. Keep it 100 Anton. 👍
Why does anton use black stereorypical insults all the time? The topic is about America as a whole and the educational system and hes talking about some "Bonequesha". Lol i have never liked dude as a person, i like his content and subjects but i cant continue to support someone thats literally filled with so much self hate. Peace ✌🏿
Anton is asking, how can they stop you from doing hispanic or Reggaeton music? Their people, it's not gonna buy your product, which is going to discourage you for going any further. Trying to make more music, that's how they gonna stop you. And then the label, it's gonna drop you. Even if you independent, you gonna stop 'cause you're not gonna make no money. Out of it, and you're not going to keep putting money into something that you're not getting no return or investment in.
Bottom line is, if you're not FBA you're a guest in hip.hop!! So everyone who wasn't black felt offended, and put false information out about how other races where allies in the origin. But we know damn well nobody even wanted to be around blacks early on!!It really stemed from people crowning Eminem the goat of Rap!! Thats where it grew it's legs from!!!
@afterhourswithad i saw that, and I made a correction soon after. You know the auto fill can be dangerous!! Lol. But this is all facts bro!! I'm just analyzing was going on.
Is the same as the old groups from way before any of us was born, they would work for the labels first of all a lot of people used to make their own vinyls, and they would put the Beach boys on the cover of your album, and it's not because black people didn't support you, they are looking at the bigger market and white folks, would not have bought the album if they knew it was a black group that's just how business was.
I have to disagree with Micca on the culture and music thing Cuz I jus watched a video with the youngin Speed and he was doing a song in a different language and ppl loved it
Slimmy, is absolutely wrong.Rap didn't start in the south right alone with nyc🤔🙄 It started in the bronx around 1930s or 1940s And it was majority black, the hispanics came in later when they was break dancing and Spray painting, the walls and the trains. But the new grow min was breakdancing first as well😮then it has spread across nyc. Even the southern rapper said they got everything from new york, and they know the origins where it came from, which was the bronx.Slimy, have no idea what he's talking about😂😂.
Antoin you wrong people did have something to say against Run Dmc with Aerosmith, You couldn't play that at the parties You get confused because they played it every day on a radio or on video channels.They didn't play it on black stations. People had been having problems with white gimmicks artists and songs for about 3 or 4 years before walked his way came. The people back then could only express themselves with the people in front of them . Essentially they had no voice in the public, like the people do today by using social media. I graduated in 87 as was still djaying knew of more blacks than not that didnt like 3rd base , vanilla ice. By then people was already questioning if they werexreal or not because of Weird al yankovic and that song da ha da ha. Socthey had to proove themselves. Even the Beastie boys by the time their 2nd album come. On their 1st album most didn't know they were jw's. Jw's don't consider themselves white like we do. Rick Ruben a"jw. 3rd base was true to the culture and valled out the industry for trying to push white garbage artist ir songs to the fron by justvplaying their videos and songsxover andxover again. started djaying in 84. Back theyvtou could complain all you wanted but you couldn't stop nothing. Also they creation was new it took till thec90's for the rest of the states to realize we created something special and to want to protect it. Back then they would always push a white artist or their song to the for front of black artist.
Slimmys hip hop card has officially been canceled. Blacks and Puerto Ricans created hip hop in NYC. Micca and Slimmy don't know what they're talking about 🤦🏿♂️
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Rapping started in the 1930s and black people was doing it before anyone else.. just because someone was there doesn't mean they were a part of the pioneers.. just because I attend a Mexican party doesn't mean I started that party or that culture
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That’s exactly what i was thinking. I’m like what is dude talking about
I love Japanese food and anime…don’t make me Japanese or mean that black folk started anime 😂
It's always interesting to see how oblivious Anton acts whenever there is clear racism against Black American
Qdiddy has seriously been dropping the ball with his lack of knowledge and useless commentary; it’s time to rotate him out with someone more knowledgeable who can actually contribute to the conversations.
Slimmy don’t know what heck he talking about when it comes to music😂!
Slimmy fully wrong on this. FULLY .
Slimmy is wrong about where hip hop started... I would love to debate this.
The first known rap was recorded as far back as 1940 by an African American group called the Jubilares, The band was a gospel group that was formed in 1935 but the first known recording of rap was from this group in 1940. The song was called Noah and the group hailed from Florida USA.
IMO, Anton is wrong about the educational system here in the U.S. The educational system here spends way too much time teaching “History” and other indoctrination courses that does nothing to help these kids get careers. HVAC, Welding, ASE Mechanic, Tech, etc should start by high school.
You don’t even have to go as far as trades. If they say 18 is adult. Schools should be required to teach home ec, tax codes, budgeting, health benefits, banking etc .. and not to say that some schools don’t teach these things but I know a lot don’t.
Sloppy Joe needs to stop this bs👎🏾 Foundational Black American youth gave the world hip hop culture. Our slang, how we dress, our dances, graffiti, etc… Everybody else copied this shit from us! Like Micca said “we not poppin in Regaeton”
Record and Streaming companies aren’t saying they created the culture. They just make the profit off of it. 🤔
Right….. Plus they own all music from a business stand point not from a culture stand point
GREG ODEN FACE NEED TO SIT THIS ONE OUT lol...
The argument is that FBAs haven't created anything. Hip-hop became apart of that argument.
QDiddy is right. The victim’s identity will be given to the defense eventually. There is zero reason for the PUBLIC to know her identity…Period. There are standards under the law that both sides need to follow. The public got zero skin in this case.
Then the allegations shouldn’t be made public either 🤷🏾♂️
Bro Anton gotta stop playing stupid. Why bring this topic up when you haven't looked into it at all. Nobody was mad at fat Joe. He's mad at a documentary that went into detail about the origins of hip hop
No..... every one wasn't there....
FBA is a real lineage. Hip hop is just a part of the argument now. People act like being FBA is a crime, and we need to do better. That's why we're dileneating..
Todays listeners think that hip hop started when they 1st heard it.
Gatekeeping is what they did with Shaboozy at the CMA awards, or them telling Beyoncé that’s not a country album, or them telling lil nas x that old town road is not a country song. Country music gives so many examples of gatekeeping.
Whether a man has graped or been accused of graped, your reputation is ruined. You lose money and spend money at the same time defending yourself. Attorneys win in these situations. That's what everyone forgets about.
When they sent them the letter it was to mediate, no matter what it means to us legally they didn't ask for any money, number two these are powerful people she is autistic and she was 13 at the time, the judge has spoken on the little tricks that Jay-Z's lawyer has been putting and she said you filled out these requests in a combative way and then you're trying to rush the courts when she has other cases to oversee and it doesn't work that way buddy it's on my time and I'm the judge and at some point she will have to be deposed you will know her identity, add the reason there's a little bit of maybe in that it's according to how Jay-Z's team conduct themselves moving forward, because she basically was calling them a bully and they didn't even do the paperwork right, they were acting as if the judge was on their payroll, so if they calm down, they will have the opportunity to know her identity, if they keep up with these shenanigans it might be unsafe for Jane Doe to be identified to Jay-Z, and by the way she was 13 so even if he saw her he wouldn't know her
Listen , the culture of hip hop started in nyc period. I’m tired of people trying to take that or anything from us. Rapping is an art form even before the south. That’s not what we taking on here.
Slimy you wrong hip-hop started in New York City. You need to stop bro.
He didn't have a clue what he was babbling about.
It evolved from the south bruh
For the guy who commented about the DA…this is a civil case, not criminal. There is no district attorney in a CIVIL case. The attorney for the victim is the plaintiff, not the State. We need some educated folks participating when discussing LAW. Q GOT IT RIGHT.
Jay-z getting accused of grape and Quinton talking like it’s nothing.
How it start from the south. wtf
I think he's talking about the rhyming aspect of hip-hop.
I liked the last topic though very good topic
This dude Anton be over thinking every damn thing. This is why too much of anything can hurt you and this guy shows this by trying o speak on too many topics. Stay on politics bruh. When it comes to blackness stop it.
Blackness?
Defendants face their accusers IN COURT. People like JayZ with money can do things pre trial to victims. The judge made the right call. All this speculation about the victim and Jay Z needs to stop. It’s not up to the public to decide or even participate in the trial. These exact talking points are exactly why we have a judicial system. Otherwise, fans of Jay Z or his wife would never look at the evidence objectively. Lord help us…
What is called Hip Hop today started in New York amongst people of color. But Rhyming in a song has gone on forever. Quit reengineering history. Why are young people trying to tell us what happened when you didn’t live through it. Sit back and learn. Look at where Hip hop surfaced.
Exactly! Lots of breaking came from Disco and rapping/rhyming started decades before hip-hop came together. It was just put together with the two turntables in front of a crowd by Grand Master Flowers in the late 60's.
Q doesn’t understand the longer they wait and drag it out the more money they make 🤣
Only America we really believe Fake to make it” The simple question is? What’s reggae in English and which is internationally recognize historically”
Anton, your views and thoughts doesn’t make things 100% “Facts or Being True”. You should stop discrediting people who see things differently than you. Even when you’re wrong, you’ll take the argument from the
opposer, add a word or two and say, that’s what you were saying or meant. Keep it 100 Anton. 👍
Slimmy off hip hop started in nyc period. Saying rhymes and among other things wasn’t even called rap
Why does anton use black stereorypical insults all the time? The topic is about America as a whole and the educational system and hes talking about some "Bonequesha". Lol i have never liked dude as a person, i like his content and subjects but i cant continue to support someone thats literally filled with so much self hate. Peace ✌🏿
When no limit came out with 3 album a month
Slimmy couldn’t be more wrong. He needs to watch Microphone Check by Tariq Nasheed asap.
I work at a school , I agree with Micca
Slim dog, you gotta be trolling bro. South Bronx... DJ Kool Herc.
Grand Master Flowers before him in Brooklyn
Anton is asking, how can they stop you from doing hispanic or Reggaeton music? Their people, it's not gonna buy your product, which is going to discourage you for going any further. Trying to make more music, that's how they gonna stop you. And then the label, it's gonna drop you. Even if you independent, you gonna stop 'cause you're not gonna make no money. Out of it, and you're not going to keep putting money into something that you're not getting no return or investment in.
Bottom line is, if you're not FBA you're a guest in hip.hop!! So everyone who wasn't black felt offended, and put false information out about how other races where allies in the origin. But we know damn well nobody even wanted to be around blacks early on!!It really stemed from people crowning Eminem the goat of Rap!! Thats where it grew it's legs from!!!
It's *guest, not guess... you're welcome
@afterhourswithad i saw that, and I made a correction soon after. You know the auto fill can be dangerous!! Lol. But this is all facts bro!! I'm just analyzing was going on.
Rap and Hip Hop are two different things
Kool Herc founded Hip Hop in The Bronx. He is Jamaican by the way.
Lies. Kool herd said he got it from the black Americans he grew up with. Kool herc moved here when he was 11
Anton catching Ls. Micca speaking facts
42:16 The YNs literally got nothing to do with this conversation. They said nothing. This is about Tyreek Nasheed and Fat Joe. 😂
I disagree with Slimmy with the fat Joe thing.....joey Crack was based off his flow not hustle.....shhh I know some big homies who would vouch
C-bo, Luni corleone, killa tay, marvaless. West Coast mafia
Wtf is Slimmer talking about. Spewing so much misunderstanding
George vs Jorge
Is the same as the old groups from way before any of us was born, they would work for the labels first of all a lot of people used to make their own vinyls, and they would put the Beach boys on the cover of your album, and it's not because black people didn't support you, they are looking at the bigger market and white folks, would not have bought the album if they knew it was a black group that's just how business was.
I have to disagree with Micca on the culture and music thing
Cuz I jus watched a video with the youngin Speed and he was doing a song in a different language and ppl loved it
Slimmy, is absolutely wrong.Rap didn't start in the south right alone with nyc🤔🙄 It started in the bronx around 1930s or 1940s And it was majority black, the hispanics came in later when they was break dancing and Spray painting, the walls and the trains. But the new grow min was breakdancing first as well😮then it has spread across nyc. Even the southern rapper said they got everything from new york, and they know the origins where it came from, which was the bronx.Slimy, have no idea what he's talking about😂😂.
Antoin you wrong people did have something to say against Run Dmc with Aerosmith, You couldn't play that at the parties You get confused because they played it every day on a radio or on video channels.They didn't play it on black stations. People had been having problems with white gimmicks artists and songs for about 3 or 4 years before walked his way came.
The people back then could only express themselves with the people in front of them . Essentially they had no voice in the public, like the people do today by using social media.
I graduated in 87 as was still djaying knew of more blacks than not that didnt like 3rd base , vanilla ice. By then people was already questioning if they werexreal or not because of Weird al yankovic and that song da ha da ha. Socthey had to proove themselves.
Even the Beastie boys by the time their 2nd album come. On their 1st album most didn't know they were jw's. Jw's don't consider themselves white like we do. Rick Ruben a"jw. 3rd base was true to the culture and valled out the industry for trying to push white garbage artist ir songs to the fron by justvplaying their videos and songsxover andxover again.
started djaying in 84. Back theyvtou could complain all you wanted but you couldn't stop nothing.
Also they creation was new it took till thec90's for the rest of the states to realize we created something special and to want to protect it. Back then they would always push a white artist or their song to the for front of black artist.
Nobody own hip hop. And, Reggaeton isnt owned by PR. Many countries dance Reggaeton, including Dominican Republic.
Hip hop is our culture
toally agree with Q - Jayz
what AD know about Veeze
🤔💡...
No techn9?
If all these other countries are great education is so great why are they jumping over each other to get here
Because of freedoms. They can open businesses in America that couldn't be done in their home country.
Anton literally sitting up here lying lol. Bruh nobody came out against fat Joe. What is this dude talking about
Slimmys hip hop card has officially been canceled. Blacks and Puerto Ricans created hip hop in NYC. Micca and Slimmy don't know what they're talking about 🤦🏿♂️
I would say blacks created it but Latinos contributed shortly after. I wouldn't say Latinos co-created it.
Bro stop lying Puerto Ricans had nothing to do with it. They didn’t even like blacks