If you didn't say Grip was number 1, I would have been disappointed I still remember your video "3 Tips To Stop Shooting Glocks Left - It's not the sights or your trigger pull...". It's an excellent primer for shooting better. I always look forward to your videos. Thanks for pouring your wisdom and humor on us. May the blessings of the Lord continue to chase you down!
You have some absolute home runs when m it comes to videos and this one hits out of the ball park. I loved that you asked the opinions of other competition shooters and featured them as well. Good job !! 🦇
Great content as always! All frills and shills aside this is the only channel that drips with that BDE! Keep doing what your doing!! Always look forward to your post and enjoy how you dissect a firearm.
Neat little way of examining the effects in IDPA. I will say a friend just bought a P365 macro with the built-in comp, I put the slide/ upper on my EDC 365XL lower and I could immediately notice the irons returned to zero faster than before. Never shot a comp’d gun before that.
Thank you for another great video. You clearly put a lot of effort in your content. I really like your unbiased factual reviews and information. I also like that you make a point to let us you when things are your opinion. I never really feel like you are trying to sell something to your viewers. Keep it up sir.
Good stuff. Thanks. Oh, and I completely agree that triggers matter less the more you shoot, at least with everything other than bullseye matches. I, too, obsessed over triggers when I first started out with my CZs. Not so much anymore. I may smooth out a gritty pull with some polishing but even that's just because a gritty feel annoys me, not because it'd have much, if any, impact on my scores. I'm way more concerned about the ergonomics and handling of a gun now, triggers are no longer my over riding concern.
Long time viewer and I gotta say, anyone calling you a “SHILL” is either talking out their ass or parroting what others say!!! I say that since I’ve only became a subscriber after you verified what I figured out or verifying what you’ve claimed in several videos to be spot on!! I don’t know what it is but I just pick up from how are you explain things very easily and the fact you don’t say this is the only way and aren’t just repeating what everybody else has said in their videos but in your own words, like most gun tube channels do shamelessly! Glad for this video and glad to have you around. Keep up the great work.
Great video man! Love th channel! My friend and I are atarting to get into IDPA... The guys there say compensators are not allowed is ESP or CO, but the rules are being updated, but there is not clarity yet. Would love a video overview of the new IDPA after all the changes. Thanks again!
Those that might care about triggers may also take part in bullseye competitions. Still even in those circles, even on olympics...the grip ergos are no. 1. Outstanding work on this video!
@TheHumbleMarksman I've been following your channel from the beginning and I've never thought of you as a shill. You are one of the very few gun related content makers that I actually trust with providing real information. I sincerely appreciate the time, effort and expense you put into your content. At one point I worked through all the poly guns while carrying Glocks. I determined I just preferred to stick with Glocks and other than keeping my P10F, I got rid of everything else. This was before Sig came out with the better 320 lowers. I also went through the Glock trigger circus. After going to a red dot years ago I realized the trigger made no difference to me. The dot taught me sooo much. My only mods on my Glocks now are a reduced power safety plunger spring, an Overwatch Precision NP3'd dot connector, and a light polish.
I just bought an overwatch precision minus connector on a recomendation, what's the difference with the dot connector? Also, does the safety plunger make a difference or would polishing the stock one be just as good?
I appreciate the time and effort that goes into providing information like this. I simply tried to post a first impressions of a slide I acquired recently, and it made me realize just how much you must do in order to provide us with these videos. It's not nearly as easy as people would think. Holy smokes you packed so much good information in here! PS. The people who talk smack about competitive shooters, and getting kilt in the streets need to watch a specific video. There's a video of a competitive shooter in Brazil essentially going full John Wick on some hoodlums. His accuracy, speed, ability to transition targets...I assume they come from the time he spent training. Could be wrong, but it sure as heck looked like all those reps for competition paid off.
Really enjoy your channel! I watch all your videos, but I need to get better in commenting. I use a couple of different comps with threaded Barrels and one that attach to the rail. My go to for guns with comps are the Canik SFX Elite Combat Executive and the SFX. Without comps, the Canik Rival and the SIG P320 X5 legion
As someone who shot his first compensated gun. The 17c. Let me say the sights were already where I wanted them to be by the time I transitioned. Wish I could say the same for my g34.5. Back to the grip drawing board.
This is a great video. Not sure where people claiming schill are coming from, I remember you as the guy who had the good shadow 2 review, then you switched to glock 34.
First things first good job at 2023 Gulf coast championship. I'm a 30-year competitor in USPSA still Challenge and IDPA. I think this video is very helpful for a lot of beginners. I think there's too much information and you should break it up into three parts. lol And you have two number fours in your list.
working on load development for a Staccato XC now and was really intrigued with your method of determining how to determine the balance between working the comp and overwhelming the comp. Would be interesting to see a clip or short video demonstrating this.
I would like to see the advantage of ported pistols. Tier 1 Concealment did an excellent slow motion video that showed that ported barrels had less muzzled flip. What they didn't do, is to determine if it made any difference in performance.
Great video David!!! I’ve thought about buying a ported barrel for my G34. Previously undecided , I think your data my persuade me. Any way… During the entire intro, I couldn’t help but think of Mr. Levy and his Glock 17. The dude is an animal with it! He is a case study on how shooting well; a “rounded 2x4” with poor trigger ergonomics, is something that is possible with time and effort. I believe that the Staccato XC just barely fits into the CO/ESP box. If it doesn’t it’s really really close and could be modified to do so.. if one doesn’t mind “massaging” a $4300 gun😢😢. As a final note, THEY are pronouncing/spell Shills incorrectly… it’s Scheels . Come on people!😂😂
I shoot thumbs forward as I learned from good shooters like you, I've heard all kinds of things for example my instructor told me when I first started gripping my XdM Elite 4.5" OSP I would use the trigger guard as a push/ pull like method kinda like that of a horizontal gas pedal....,😂 But the instructor didn't approve as his argument was I'd start pulling my shots to the left by strong arming occasionally. So ever since then it's thumbs forward and now I have a WML and looking at a Arms Republic compensator. I bought the Griffin arrangement one for $60 but I don't really like it's performance so I'm trying something else.
Awesome video! Would like to see a comparison from you on ports vs comps. T1C made one, but that didn't take into consideration tuning ammo to the comp/port.
T1C does cool stuff but a lot of people in the carry comp know how to make comps but not sure it translates to understanding how it works - a lot of comp makers give bad advice
I am conducting a similar expertment this year but with weapon lights. I have a journal with every competition I have ever done and have notes on places I've messed up or done well. Next Saturday will be my first IDPA match with a TRL1 attached to my Canik Rival. I am very curious to see if there is a difference
That is a great review. Thank you for putting the time and effort into that. Am trying to get my hands on a Bul aramy sas tac 2 5 inch with the v8 ports . Would like to know your thoughts on the verses original tac ii ?
This video was awesome…at this point your the only guntuber who I feel is truly objective in your reviews…it seems your more focused on publishing the truth rather then gaining view counts with click bait
I have the GA micro carry comp on a few guns like my g19 and 92x centurion and I have been pretty happy with them, but I can see how if you don’t already have good recoil control, you might not think it is doing anything.
THANK YOU for pointing out the Goldilocks sydrome guys have with triggers. I've done a bunch of training over the years, both professionally and in the private sector. I've had the opportunity to do quite a bit of high stress Force on Force with FX rounds. Never in any of those scenarios did I notice the trigger weight, or the quality of sights, or even grip texture. I was focused on not getting shot and engaging the threat. With that said, if it's a gadget that's cool, you like it, and you have the money to blow on it, go nuts. I'd be a hypocrite if I told you otherwise.
acccshhully.... I know a guy who shoots a 147 grain 9mm in his open gun because using a certain powder gives major PF in their published data. But.. Everything you said is correct and makes sense about the comps.
If you do the math the extra bullet weight adds an extra inch or two of weight to the pistol that doesn’t get founded against its class weight so that could also be a sneaky way to make it marginally heavier.
Great video - thank you. Comparing the P320 AXG Pro and AXG Legion, what if you got the barrel of the AXG Pro ported. Could you have the best of both worlds?
I would probably compete if not for so many arbitrary boomer rules ex. If you allow from factory slide comps and attached comps, you ought to allow all comps. No reason at all I should not be able to complete with my PDP pro with a HA Microcomp. I check in from time to time and its good to see things are getting better.
Just wanna say thank you for updating my knowledge on comps/ports. Switched to shooting some super hot 115 loads a friend of mine loads for me. Also wondering if there is a difference between tuning a load for ported barrels or comps?
@@TheHumbleMarksman got it, I've been using ports for a while, and switched out to a comp pretty recently, any tips are very much appreciated. Thank u 👌
David, please explain the ideal trigger shape. You mentioned around 7:55, but didn't describe what to look for or how to choose a different shape. I've spent several hours on your channel learning many topics. My new CZ Shadow 2 was just shipped today. In 2-3 days, I will have more questions. Thank you Sir!
Longer Glocks don’t give me a pull to the support side. For instance, my allowed Glock 17(stock), except for night sights, did well on a timed course of fire out to 25 yards. My BUG Glock 26, definitely pulled support hand.
People are just mad their not in a position to join or decline shilling festivities. Your videos are informative and entertaining. Keep up the great work. - some random dood watching pewtube videos
I love my shadow 2, but you can’t deny that it’s extremely nose heavy. There’s a reason why the best shooters using it have brass grips to improve balance
I bought a Timney Alpha Trigger for my Glock 19. Then I upgraded it with the Johnny Glock combat kit. It did "feel" nice but created nothing but problems. So much so that I realized I could no longer carry the gun and trust my life with it. And since Im one of those rare people that likes to carry every single handgun I own, whether big or small, this really bothered me. Having a "nice" trigger reminds me of someone who sucks at golf buying a $3,000 set of golf clubs. That person will not play those clubs any better than they would play a 20 year old set cobbled together from various garage sales. It takes a tremendous amount of experience and skill until the equipment you are wielding can begin to factor into improving your results. Once I realized this I swapped back to an OEM Glock trigger. Wish I had spent the $400 in trigger upgrades on something else.
trigger upgrades are very low ROI as far as performance is concerned. Some double/single guns sing with the upgrades - but even most of them are so good now that you don't need to do anything - really.
Looking forward to your review of whatever branded version of that one mailbox MRDS on your G34 is, theres 3-4 companies including Geiselle who are throwing their brand on the exact same optic and factory with minor exterior cosmetic changes and they're all wildly differently priced for the exact same dot. If they manage to be reliable that'll be nice to have a cheap mailbox MRDS to compete with the ACRO/509T/MPS etc.
I want to get a steel frame Jericho 941 with frame safety. Lowish slide mass and very similar and compatible with tanfoglio parts. Then I want to machine a compensator in the style of some rare ones made by IMI for the compact Jericho's. Maybe also cut it for a red dot. Can take the comp off if needed and use it as a carry gun with a weapon light
Assuming you were using an axg grip module on both, how much daylight is there between the spectre comp and axg legion slides? I’d like to get an axg legion, but it would be easier and cheaper to buy a spectre comp complete slide. (I would really rather avoid having to give my state an extra 50 dollars if the difference is relatively negligible)
Ports are the way to go . More ports the sooner “return to zero” you’ll have . Just saying I’ve been a consumer, since 2017 many regrets, and finally found out after experimentation on products and found ports are the way to go
Your knowledge and insight are highly appreciated, David. Very enlightening information, thank you! By the way, I live in Houston, TX. Do you live in Texas?
What did you feel was the flatest shooter between the axg legion, spectre comp and the shadow comp?? Persomally I would think with the shadow being so light in weight that the felt recoil and muzzle flip would be more then a heavier one????
Raise your hand if you felt personally victimized by THM’s “trigger snobbery is dumb” comment 🙋🏽♂️ You’ll never take muh triggers away from me. Great video. It’ll be interesting to see if comped guns make an impact on results at the next IDPA major I go to.
If the pistol has a decent trigger isn’t not needed. If it comes with absolute garbage then yea get something better. I’ve only ever swapped springs on pistols for lighter triggers with factory parts. My AR had what felt like an 8lb trigger…. Got Geissele ssa-e and couldn’t be happier.
@@zen-Tii I don’t think he’s far off the mark tbh. I have a p365 with a trigger I absolute hate. The triggers in the Sig striker fired lineup just don’t do it for me. But every now and then when I take it and shoot and IDPA match with it, I don’t even notice how much I don’t like the trigger. That being said, I like that my main CO gun has a really nice trigger. I get all giddy when I start my dry fire session and that makes it more fun.
Yeah, that comment hurt me in the feels, but it's true. With the proper solid grip, upgraded triggers aren't really necessary. As you can tell, I don't have a proper grip. 😂
Cool video. Though the topic is comps, I really liked the section discussing what matters and what doesn’t to the performance of a handgun. I do question whether cleanliness of the wall is more than important than you give it credit for - for the average shooter - because the characteristics of how a trigger breaks affects trigger control and followthrough, does it not? I also thought it was interesting that you think you got a little lax with your fundamentals when shooting the comp’d guns, but that the comp’d guns took someone with perhaps weaker fundamentals and improved his results. I’m not sure that’s a good thing for someone without a threshold level of training and experience. Is it a concern in your mind that comps encourage development of bad habits?
@the humble marksman for jus mainly fun but also some competition here n there and speed, would i be better off going with a tanfoglio witness clone or a 2011 style pistol?? As in which one is faster or better?? Also with 2011 are commanders or govt length guns better for adding a comp to?? Ive seen several ppl on RUclips sayin that commander guns are actually some how faster something about the slide cycling faster?? Im thinking of jus going with the tanfoglio clone since i already have one 2011 style pistol that i coild compare to and then decide which platform i wanna put real money in to and customize to the way i want it although im sure theres not many options for threaded barrels and comps for that gun but ill jus have to see i found a list on a forjm of all the possible upgrades for the gun and its only like $700-$800 so its not like ill be out a ton if i dont like it or it turns out to be a crap gun even tho all the reviews so far have been good theres some negatives like the trigger sucks but that can be remedied, any help is greatly appreciated man!!!
You mentioned S&B and 115s. I’ve been buying the 124s. Just bought an XC but that’s all I’ve shot though it’s. Are those pretty good rounds for comped pistols ?
Interesting I don’t really shoot competition I just bought I’m not just when it came out the radiant arms compensator and I put it on my Glock 19 I can say I did see a difference, not tremendous difference, but there was a difference getting back on the site was quicker … where are the Comp did shine was shooting plusP ammo . Which I was not surprised about it all. It was a dramatic difference shooting with and without with plus P. All that being said I do own a few 44 magnums both Smith and Wesson one is a 6 inch and the other one is the 4 inch comp . There I have to say the compensator really helps out with recoil . That being said though anyone that’s into shooting and shoots 44 nose you do not get the same velocity out of a 4 inch to get the maximum for velocity of a 44 mag do you need at least 6 inch barrel .. so I guess from my perspective, at least a comp is a good thing, but in no way a necessary thing . Thanks for the video great video for sure
13:50 Instead of working up a load that puts minimal gas out the muzzle, what if we could put a rubber wipe on the end of the comp, like rubber wipes found in older suppressors, to keep the gas from escaping out the muzzle. I think that would be an interesting thing to test
I qualified using an EAA/Tanfoglio Witness 45 with an integrated compensator, in the police academy in 2001. I don't know if the compensator helped or not, because my only experience with pistols prior to that was annual qualifying in the Marine Corps with (for the first year) a Colt 1911, and then the M9 Barretta after that...and obviously neither had a compensator. At the end of the day I shot 299 out of a possible 300 with that pistol. I haven't had a compensated pistol again, since then.
So you really like the Shadow Systems. I was interested in it but, saw videos that said they were having malfunctions with theirs. It is the Navy Seal guy from Georgia that has long hair. Can't remember the channel name. I thought it was strange that it wouldn't be reliable because it is just a Glock with improved ergos.
@TheHumbleMarksman Well right. I guess at the end of the day my thought. As a none competition shooter, I would want what makes me go faster if accuracy doesn't suffer. I guess there is acceptions, price being one. But to Quote Eleanor Roosevelt, It is all about SPEED.
@FishFind3000 That maybe or don't they supply Pmags with their gun? Now I haven't had issues with Pmag Glock style mags but, don't think they are as reliable if dirty etc.
I love these in-depth videos you put together! Good stuff
@TheHumbleMarksman Great production, great writing and editing, great video. Looking forward to more high quality content!
Great vid David! Thanks for taking the time to put this out there.
Excellent presentation...appreciate the time you have invested to help other enthusiasts.
If you didn't say Grip was number 1, I would have been disappointed I still remember your video "3 Tips To Stop Shooting Glocks Left - It's not the sights or your trigger pull...". It's an excellent primer for shooting better. I always look forward to your videos. Thanks for pouring your wisdom and humor on us. May the blessings of the Lord continue to chase you down!
You have some absolute home runs when m it comes to videos and this one hits out of the ball park.
I loved that you asked the opinions of other competition shooters and featured them as well.
Good job !! 🦇
Excellent, excellent content, David. You obviously put a huge amount of time and effort into it. Nicely done and incredibly informative.
My father sent me this video, and you called out his trigger snobbery 😂 hilarious 😂 things I’ve been telling him about triggers you stated! Legendary.
Great content as always! All frills and shills aside this is the only channel that drips with that BDE! Keep doing what your doing!! Always look forward to your post and enjoy how you dissect a firearm.
Neat little way of examining the effects in IDPA. I will say a friend just bought a P365 macro with the built-in comp, I put the slide/ upper on my EDC 365XL lower and I could immediately notice the irons returned to zero faster than before. Never shot a comp’d gun before that.
Thank you for another great video. You clearly put a lot of effort in your content. I really like your unbiased factual reviews and information. I also like that you make a point to let us you when things are your opinion. I never really feel like you are trying to sell something to your viewers. Keep it up sir.
Agree 100%! 👍
Good stuff. Thanks. Oh, and I completely agree that triggers matter less the more you shoot, at least with everything other than bullseye matches. I, too, obsessed over triggers when I first started out with my CZs. Not so much anymore. I may smooth out a gritty pull with some polishing but even that's just because a gritty feel annoys me, not because it'd have much, if any, impact on my scores. I'm way more concerned about the ergonomics and handling of a gun now, triggers are no longer my over riding concern.
Good video as always and been watching for yrs now and that's for a reason. Always good info
You knocked this video out of the park, man! Great vid!
Long time viewer and I gotta say, anyone calling you a “SHILL” is either talking out their ass or parroting what others say!!! I say that since I’ve only became a subscriber after you verified what I figured out or verifying what you’ve claimed in several videos to be spot on!! I don’t know what it is but I just pick up from how are you explain things very easily and the fact you don’t say this is the only way and aren’t just repeating what everybody else has said in their videos but in your own words, like most gun tube channels do shamelessly! Glad for this video and glad to have you around. Keep up the great work.
Great info here. Thanks for all the hard work.
Great video man! Love th channel! My friend and I are atarting to get into IDPA... The guys there say compensators are not allowed is ESP or CO, but the rules are being updated, but there is not clarity yet. Would love a video overview of the new IDPA after all the changes. Thanks again!
Awesome BDE content as usual!! 🙌
I am happy that i found your channel. Good understadaable information.
Those that might care about triggers may also take part in bullseye competitions. Still even in those circles, even on olympics...the grip ergos are no. 1.
Outstanding work on this video!
False. Nobody shoots bullseye anymore - they either died off or serve on the board of my gun club
Great video…lots a great info and work went into this.
Thanks for the information man. You honest outlaw and tactical consideration are three of the best reviewers and info givers.
Agree 100%! 👍
It is good to see a man that is so obviously proud to be a father. Oh, your firearm info is ok, too.
@TheHumbleMarksman I've been following your channel from the beginning and I've never thought of you as a shill. You are one of the very few gun related content makers that I actually trust with providing real information. I sincerely appreciate the time, effort and expense you put into your content. At one point I worked through all the poly guns while carrying Glocks. I determined I just preferred to stick with Glocks and other than keeping my P10F, I got rid of everything else. This was before Sig came out with the better 320 lowers. I also went through the Glock trigger circus. After going to a red dot years ago I realized the trigger made no difference to me. The dot taught me sooo much. My only mods on my Glocks now are a reduced power safety plunger spring, an Overwatch Precision NP3'd dot connector, and a light polish.
I just bought an overwatch precision minus connector on a recomendation, what's the difference with the dot connector? Also, does the safety plunger make a difference or would polishing the stock one be just as good?
Great video and work on the comparisons 👍
I appreciate the time and effort that goes into providing information like this. I simply tried to post a first impressions of a slide I acquired recently, and it made me realize just how much you must do in order to provide us with these videos. It's not nearly as easy as people would think.
Holy smokes you packed so much good information in here!
PS. The people who talk smack about competitive shooters, and getting kilt in the streets need to watch a specific video. There's a video of a competitive shooter in Brazil essentially going full John Wick on some hoodlums. His accuracy, speed, ability to transition targets...I assume they come from the time he spent training. Could be wrong, but it sure as heck looked like all those reps for competition paid off.
I love you the humble marksman!!!🎉 you have fans world wide 🔥
Love my P. Great review! Bul Armory is making some great firearms to compare also. Thanks for the video!
Really enjoy your channel! I watch all your videos, but I need to get better in commenting.
I use a couple of different comps with threaded Barrels and one that attach to the rail. My go to for guns with comps are the Canik SFX Elite Combat Executive and the SFX. Without comps, the Canik Rival and the SIG P320 X5 legion
Excellent video with awesome explanation.
As someone who shot his first compensated gun. The 17c. Let me say the sights were already where I wanted them to be by the time I transitioned. Wish I could say the same for my g34.5.
Back to the grip drawing board.
Thanks for doing the work on this. You basically did a “Mythbuster” test on Comps
This is a great video. Not sure where people claiming schill are coming from, I remember you as the guy who had the good shadow 2 review, then you switched to glock 34.
Highly informative informative.
Thank you
WOW, an amazing comprehensive, all-in-one video! Thank you creating this.
I love my Tanfo Defiance Limited Master, so thanks for sharing your choice!
First things first good job at 2023 Gulf coast championship.
I'm a 30-year competitor in USPSA still Challenge and IDPA.
I think this video is very helpful for a lot of beginners. I think there's too much information and you should break it up into three parts. lol
And you have two number fours in your list.
working on load development for a Staccato XC now and was really intrigued with your method of determining how to determine the balance between working the comp and overwhelming the comp. Would be interesting to see a clip or short video demonstrating this.
I would like to see the advantage of ported pistols. Tier 1 Concealment did an excellent slow motion video that showed that ported barrels had less muzzled flip. What they didn't do, is to determine if it made any difference in performance.
Great video David!!!
I’ve thought about buying a ported barrel for my G34. Previously undecided , I think your data my persuade me.
Any way…
During the entire intro, I couldn’t help but think of Mr. Levy and his Glock 17. The dude is an animal with it! He is a case study on how shooting well; a “rounded 2x4” with poor trigger ergonomics, is something that is possible with time and effort.
I believe that the Staccato XC just barely fits into the CO/ESP box. If it doesn’t it’s really really close and could be modified to do so.. if one doesn’t mind “massaging” a $4300 gun😢😢.
As a final note, THEY are pronouncing/spell Shills incorrectly… it’s Scheels . Come on people!😂😂
I shoot thumbs forward as I learned from good shooters like you, I've heard all kinds of things for example my instructor told me when I first started gripping my XdM Elite 4.5" OSP I would use the trigger guard as a push/ pull like method kinda like that of a horizontal gas pedal....,😂 But the instructor didn't approve as his argument was I'd start pulling my shots to the left by strong arming occasionally. So ever since then it's thumbs forward and now I have a WML and looking at a Arms Republic compensator. I bought the Griffin arrangement one for $60 but I don't really like it's performance so I'm trying something else.
Really great content and production
Awesome video! Would like to see a comparison from you on ports vs comps. T1C made one, but that didn't take into consideration tuning ammo to the comp/port.
T1C does cool stuff but a lot of people in the carry comp know how to make comps but not sure it translates to understanding how it works - a lot of comp makers give bad advice
Shill or not, you are one of a handful of guntubers I bother listening to.
I am conducting a similar expertment this year but with weapon lights. I have a journal with every competition I have ever done and have notes on places I've messed up or done well. Next Saturday will be my first IDPA match with a TRL1 attached to my Canik Rival. I am very curious to see if there is a difference
Big Shill Energy! Just kidding. You're straight as an arrow. Always love your content. You're a real one, and one of the few, Mr Marksman
Another great video - thanks!
I’ll have to try a Shadow Systems DR920P…
This is the best compensator review I have ever seen
They help enough to definitely ad one to your edc.
Great comparison video.
Great informative video
I love the channel but being new it took me a couple episodes to figure out that the "humble" is sarcasm at it's finest.
hey I was pretty well behaved in this one.
Great video!!
Great as always, Would be neat to see the comp gun vs the same model ported.
that's a mighty heavy lift and is a one way trip for 1000s of $ in equipment. I'm probably not going to be doing that.
@@TheHumbleMarksman But wait!!! Arnet you a shill that gets everything for free??? :)
That is a great review. Thank you for putting the time and effort into that. Am trying to get my hands on a Bul aramy sas tac 2 5 inch with the v8 ports . Would like to know your thoughts on the verses original tac ii ?
This video was awesome…at this point your the only guntuber who I feel is truly objective in your reviews…it seems your more focused on publishing the truth rather then gaining view counts with click bait
Great video David!!
go chiefs
@@will-zj5gq SUPER BOWL WINNERS!!
I am very interested to see how the new BUL Air with the optics mount and the new Tac II Pro would fair against the P320's
I have the GA micro carry comp on a few guns like my g19 and 92x centurion and I have been pretty happy with them, but I can see how if you don’t already have good recoil control, you might not think it is doing anything.
THANK YOU for pointing out the Goldilocks sydrome guys have with triggers. I've done a bunch of training over the years, both professionally and in the private sector. I've had the opportunity to do quite a bit of high stress Force on Force with FX rounds.
Never in any of those scenarios did I notice the trigger weight, or the quality of sights, or even grip texture. I was focused on not getting shot and engaging the threat.
With that said, if it's a gadget that's cool, you like it, and you have the money to blow on it, go nuts. I'd be a hypocrite if I told you otherwise.
Love the fishing vest in the matches lol.
acccshhully.... I know a guy who shoots a 147 grain 9mm in his open gun because using a certain powder gives major PF in their published data. But.. Everything you said is correct and makes sense about the comps.
If you are afraid of going over pressure because you use trash brass - you can do it - but you are leaving performance on the table
If you do the math the extra bullet weight adds an extra inch or two of weight to the pistol that doesn’t get founded against its class weight so that could also be a sneaky way to make it marginally heavier.
Great video - thank you.
Comparing the P320 AXG Pro and AXG Legion, what if you got the barrel of the AXG Pro ported. Could you have the best of both worlds?
The rules now allow weapon mounted light, in a way it somewhat works like a compensator. The muzzle flip is more subdue in a polymer frame.
My M&P 2.0 10mm with 4.625 inch barrel has been quad ported by Mag-Na-Port. It works!!!
Ohhhh, so you chose to send mpa a check instead?
Niiiice..
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Great Info..! I think I’m leaning towards my first Gucci Glock..!😂
I would probably compete if not for so many arbitrary boomer rules ex. If you allow from factory slide comps and attached comps, you ought to allow all comps. No reason at all I should not be able to complete with my PDP pro with a HA Microcomp. I check in from time to time and its good to see things are getting better.
Just wanna say thank you for updating my knowledge on comps/ports. Switched to shooting some super hot 115 loads a friend of mine loads for me. Also wondering if there is a difference between tuning a load for ported barrels or comps?
Ports vent less gas than a comp and are overwhelmed quicker
@@TheHumbleMarksman got it, I've been using ports for a while, and switched out to a comp pretty recently, any tips are very much appreciated. Thank u 👌
Nice Video!
David, please explain the ideal trigger shape. You mentioned around 7:55, but didn't describe what to look for or how to choose a different shape. I've spent several hours on your channel learning many topics. My new CZ Shadow 2 was just shipped today. In 2-3 days, I will have more questions. Thank you Sir!
Great video
Longer Glocks don’t give me a pull to the support side. For instance, my allowed Glock 17(stock), except for night sights, did well on a timed course of fire out to 25 yards. My BUG Glock 26, definitely pulled support hand.
People are just mad their not in a position to join or decline shilling festivities. Your videos are informative and entertaining. Keep up the great work.
- some random dood watching pewtube videos
Great vid
I love my shadow 2, but you can’t deny that it’s extremely nose heavy. There’s a reason why the best shooters using it have brass grips to improve balance
I bought a Timney Alpha Trigger for my Glock 19. Then I upgraded it with the Johnny Glock combat kit. It did "feel" nice but created nothing but problems. So much so that I realized I could no longer carry the gun and trust my life with it. And since Im one of those rare people that likes to carry every single handgun I own, whether big or small, this really bothered me.
Having a "nice" trigger reminds me of someone who sucks at golf buying a $3,000 set of golf clubs. That person will not play those clubs any better than they would play a 20 year old set cobbled together from various garage sales. It takes a tremendous amount of experience and skill until the equipment you are wielding can begin to factor into improving your results.
Once I realized this I swapped back to an OEM Glock trigger. Wish I had spent the $400 in trigger upgrades on something else.
trigger upgrades are very low ROI as far as performance is concerned. Some double/single guns sing with the upgrades - but even most of them are so good now that you don't need to do anything - really.
Thank you 😊
Looking forward to your review of whatever branded version of that one mailbox MRDS on your G34 is, theres 3-4 companies including Geiselle who are throwing their brand on the exact same optic and factory with minor exterior cosmetic changes and they're all wildly differently priced for the exact same dot.
If they manage to be reliable that'll be nice to have a cheap mailbox MRDS to compete with the ACRO/509T/MPS etc.
That’s a 509
@@TheHumbleMarksman Not the one on the Shadow, the one with the right side circular battery housing on your plain G34, its visible at 8:20
@@Ihasanart ahh swamp fox kraken.
I want to get a steel frame Jericho 941 with frame safety. Lowish slide mass and very similar and compatible with tanfoglio parts. Then I want to machine a compensator in the style of some rare ones made by IMI for the compact Jericho's. Maybe also cut it for a red dot. Can take the comp off if needed and use it as a carry gun with a weapon light
Assuming you were using an axg grip module on both, how much daylight is there between the spectre comp and axg legion slides? I’d like to get an axg legion, but it would be easier and cheaper to buy a spectre comp complete slide. (I would really rather avoid having to give my state an extra 50 dollars if the difference is relatively negligible)
Thanks , for reply
This video will hurt one liner Fudds
Ports are the way to go . More ports the sooner “return to zero” you’ll have . Just saying I’ve been a consumer, since 2017 many regrets, and finally found out after experimentation on products and found ports are the way to go
I have a Canik Rival iv been thinking about getting a comp for. Just wasn't sure if it was worth it or not
Oh ok good, a bucee’s hat.
Now I can continue watching review haha 😊
good job on the video but can you turn that sight around on the sig spec comp to make the nose look right ? (to me it looks like a face!)
luv the viids but we need a 1911 tier list
Your knowledge and insight are highly appreciated, David. Very enlightening information, thank you!
By the way, I live in Houston, TX. Do you live in Texas?
DFW area - was in Eagle Lake thursday/Friday
@@TheHumbleMarksman Great! I would love to watch you shooting in a tournament here in Texas.
What did you feel was the flatest shooter between the axg legion, spectre comp and the shadow comp?? Persomally I would think with the shadow being so light in weight that the felt recoil and muzzle flip would be more then a heavier one????
This video made me feel a lot better about ordering the dr920p lol
Raise your hand if you felt personally victimized by THM’s “trigger snobbery is dumb” comment 🙋🏽♂️
You’ll never take muh triggers away from me.
Great video. It’ll be interesting to see if comped guns make an impact on results at the next IDPA major I go to.
If the pistol has a decent trigger isn’t not needed. If it comes with absolute garbage then yea get something better. I’ve only ever swapped springs on pistols for lighter triggers with factory parts.
My AR had what felt like an 8lb trigger…. Got Geissele ssa-e and couldn’t be happier.
Hand raised. I thought Humble’s trigger comment was off the mark. It’s hard to shoot well with some shit Glock trigger.
@@zen-Tii I don’t think he’s far off the mark tbh. I have a p365 with a trigger I absolute hate. The triggers in the Sig striker fired lineup just don’t do it for me. But every now and then when I take it and shoot and IDPA match with it, I don’t even notice how much I don’t like the trigger.
That being said, I like that my main CO gun has a really nice trigger. I get all giddy when I start my dry fire session and that makes it more fun.
Yeah, that comment hurt me in the feels, but it's true. With the proper solid grip, upgraded triggers aren't really necessary. As you can tell, I don't have a proper grip. 😂
Cool video. Though the topic is comps, I really liked the section discussing what matters and what doesn’t to the performance of a handgun. I do question whether cleanliness of the wall is more than important than you give it credit for - for the average shooter - because the characteristics of how a trigger breaks affects trigger control and followthrough, does it not?
I also thought it was interesting that you think you got a little lax with your fundamentals when shooting the comp’d guns, but that the comp’d guns took someone with perhaps weaker fundamentals and improved his results. I’m not sure that’s a good thing for someone without a threshold level of training and experience. Is it a concern in your mind that comps encourage development of bad habits?
You had me at ‘tang.🤣🤣
@the humble marksman for jus mainly fun but also some competition here n there and speed, would i be better off going with a tanfoglio witness clone or a 2011 style pistol?? As in which one is faster or better?? Also with 2011 are commanders or govt length guns better for adding a comp to?? Ive seen several ppl on RUclips sayin that commander guns are actually some how faster something about the slide cycling faster?? Im thinking of jus going with the tanfoglio clone since i already have one 2011 style pistol that i coild compare to and then decide which platform i wanna put real money in to and customize to the way i want it although im sure theres not many options for threaded barrels and comps for that gun but ill jus have to see i found a list on a forjm of all the possible upgrades for the gun and its only like $700-$800 so its not like ill be out a ton if i dont like it or it turns out to be a crap gun even tho all the reviews so far have been good theres some negatives like the trigger sucks but that can be remedied, any help is greatly appreciated man!!!
You mentioned S&B and 115s. I’ve been buying the 124s. Just bought an XC but that’s all I’ve shot though it’s. Are those pretty good rounds for comped pistols ?
picked up a 10fo Defiant Stock Master..
Interesting I don’t really shoot competition I just bought I’m not just when it came out the radiant arms compensator and I put it on my Glock 19 I can say I did see a difference, not tremendous difference, but there was a difference getting back on the site was quicker … where are the Comp did shine was shooting plusP ammo . Which I was not surprised about it all. It was a dramatic difference shooting with and without with plus P. All that being said I do own a few 44 magnums both Smith and Wesson one is a 6 inch and the other one is the 4 inch comp . There I have to say the compensator really helps out with recoil . That being said though anyone that’s into shooting and shoots 44 nose you do not get the same velocity out of a 4 inch to get the maximum for velocity of a 44 mag do you need at least 6 inch barrel ..
so I guess from my perspective, at least a comp is a good thing, but in no way a necessary thing .
Thanks for the video great video for sure
Hopefully you can make out my voice texting. Yes voice texting sucks😂
13:50 Instead of working up a load that puts minimal gas out the muzzle, what if we could put a rubber wipe on the end of the comp, like rubber wipes found in older suppressors, to keep the gas from escaping out the muzzle. I think that would be an interesting thing to test
I qualified using an EAA/Tanfoglio Witness 45 with an integrated compensator, in the police academy in 2001. I don't know if the compensator helped or not, because my only experience with pistols prior to that was annual qualifying in the Marine Corps with (for the first year) a Colt 1911, and then the M9 Barretta after that...and obviously neither had a compensator. At the end of the day I shot 299 out of a possible 300 with that pistol. I haven't had a compensated pistol again, since then.
So you really like the Shadow Systems. I was interested in it but, saw videos that said they were having malfunctions with theirs. It is the Navy Seal guy from Georgia that has long hair. Can't remember the channel name. I thought it was strange that it wouldn't be reliable because it is just a Glock with improved ergos.
Their manufacturing isn’t keeping up with demand so their quality has started to slip.
I have heard that as well - this video isn’t about me liking them - but it got me better scores both comped and non- comped
@TheHumbleMarksman Well right. I guess at the end of the day my thought. As a none competition shooter, I would want what makes me go faster if accuracy doesn't suffer. I guess there is acceptions, price being one. But to Quote Eleanor Roosevelt, It is all about SPEED.
@FishFind3000 That maybe or don't they supply Pmags with their gun? Now I haven't had issues with Pmag Glock style mags but, don't think they are as reliable if dirty etc.
@@FishFind3000 Not true, their quality has always been hit or miss. Source, I’m an early adopter - 2 guns in, neither are 100% reliable.