I like how people talk about Josh Allen’s turn overs but not the fact that Josh Allen and Patrick mahomes have the same amount of turn overs the last two years and in that same time frame Josh has the same amount of passing tds and 21 more rushing tds
Somehow Allen having a lack of weapons made him throw less INTs but Mahomes with a lack of weapons made him throw more. Interesting take by KJ but he's a Jet for life so no surprise he hates the bills and anyone that plays for them.
@@df6148because mahomes joined an already stacked team with 11 and 12 wins every year before him, has the best coach best te best pass blocking o line best defense he doesn’t even have to play good
@@df6148At the end of the day you replied to a comment talking about stats and all you mentioned is that Patty has more rings than Josh… While you’re not wrong you’re comparing apples to oranges there bud. Rings are a team accomplishment not an individual stat 🤷🏽♂️
"Leads the league in turnovers since 2018..." Yeah, because only Josh Allen & Patrick Mahomes have really been staring since 2018, stayed healthy, and are still playing today! Brady, Big Ben, Brees, Rivers, Ryan, etc. - retired Cousins, Lamar, Stafford, Burrow, Tua, Watson, Carr, Dak, Murray, Rodgers, etc. - Injuries/Suspension Lawrence, Herbert, Burrow (again), Stroud, Hurts, Tua (again), Murray (again), Richardson, Fields, etc. - Drafted years later Jimmy G, Zack Wilson, Darnold, Mayfield, Mac Jones, etc - Benched Then you have guys like Geno Smith & others who were backups that became starters, but haven't been starting since 2018. So going by "most total turnovers" among a very small group is misleading. He also set the record for most total TDs in a QB's first 100 games, most total TDs in first 6 years, and is either 1st or 2nd in the league in TDs since 2018 as well.
Yes but it’s going to forever be a topic until he has less TOs then the guys people argue he’s better than Lamar , Mahomes , Burrow. That and the bills never getting the 1 seed is why Lamar has 2 MVPs and Josh has none
@@MrEvanat305 Tbh I think he should have been the MVP last year. Lamar was efficient, but he had 6-8 games where he didn't do anything and their defense was the real star. Much ado was made about Allen's turnovers costing the Bills games, but none of his turnovers led to the Bills losing a lead in the 4th quarter and 8-10 of his picks were tips, drops by his receivers that are unlucky more than anything, or schemed up 50/50 balls that were essentially punts. I think the preference for Lamar is just a narrative thing. Lamar has always had the support of the media behind him, even all the way back in his draft cycle and especially when he fell to the end of the 1st round. The "I'm more than just a running back." narrative combined with the racial narrative (As unfortunate as it is, his race has always been a factor in his media coverage) gives him this constant tailwind. Allen was the exact opposite, he was viewed as everything wrong with the archaic scouting systems of old that loved big guys with big arms who couldn't read a defense, and a large portion of NFL media bet their reputation on him being a bust. His rise to a universally accepted top 5 QB burned a ton of the scouting and media circles and single-handedly destroyed the analytics stranglehold over scouting that had materialized in the mid-2010's, and I think the resentment still lingers.
Josh is going on 10 or 11 games with no interception going back to last year. His turnovers dropped considerably when Diggs disappeared down the stretch.
Keyshawn trying to say Brady is going to walk Josh into turnovers just shows how far hes reaching. Sounds like I’m listening to a jets fan n a dolphins fan hope on Josh’s downfall
All people look at is a total number. Coming into the season his turnover rate was 2.3% do y'all realize that is on par or lower than many Hall of famers? That's lower than Joe Montana! Why don't we talk about the fact that nobody in the NFL has scored more touchdowns in the past 4 years? Is the only player in history to record 4000 plus passing and 40 plus touchdowns 4 years in a row. But y'all ain't ready for that conversation
Keyshawn is so terrible at analysis sometimes. Do a little research if you're going to comment on these things. Cuz you just wrong about Josh's turnovers. Number one, he is never been a turnover machine. His career turnover rate is barely higher than mahomes. You and others keep claiming that his interceptions are going down cuz he's not forcing the ball to Diggs. Wrong! He only threw three interceptions last year when targeting diggs, and four while targeting Davis. Most of those pics happened on deep 50/50 balls where diggs and Davis were very weak at the catch point. Most of his interceptions don't come off him being reckless like stupid people claim. About half of them come on deep 50/50 balls where his wide receivers didn't fight for the ball, or at least play defense. Another chunk of his intersections come from miscommunication on routes. The player ziggs when he thinks they are zagging. This narrative is completely idiotic. His interceptions are down because he's not relying as heavily on route development and separation. He's working through progressions quickly and if he sees a player isn't shaking free, or if it's too tight, he's moving to his next progression. Having Cooper definitely helps because he's a top-notch receiver that defenses are having to account for which is creating mismatches elsewhere. Not unlike any other offense in the league.
@@kasanova44burn stefon Diggs didn't make Josh Allen. His arrival just happened to coincide with the off-season where Josh went through rigorous overhaul of his mechanics with Jordan Palmer. Getting diggs didn't magically make Josh much more accurate. He just finally got some help with things that he didn't have access to at a small college. Things that other top quarterbacks coming out have at their disposal at these major universities. If there is any quarterback in the league that can win without a number one wideout it's Josh. Nobody in the league can create their own success more than Josh. Lamar Jackson didn't look great either when he didn't have a top wide out. At least he's always had a good offensive line and a great running attack. It took Josh four seasons to get anything close to that.
@@kasanova44burndiggs was on year 6 or 7? Coming to Buffalo. Barely exceeding 1000 yards only 2 times in his career... but diggs, was sooooooo great, that he made allen.
Paul Pierce has been doing really good as an analyst. You can tell he's definitely safe with his football takes and that he's still learning. But he's been doing very well!
Tua isn't that good. His stats r inflated because of Waddle and Hill. He throws the ball on short to medium throws and then his wrs r fast so they get a lot of RAC. The RAC goes to the QBs stats. The NFL has to only give the yards to the QB where the WR catches it. Then the YAC yards only go to the WR.
@1yankeesrule Tuas been on the back half of the league in YAC for the last 2 yrs. WHAT? 😂🤣 With that logic, explain how Waddle and Tyreek have done jack squat since Tuas been out? He makes them better. Not the other way around
nah, its his job to know better, its already clear he doesnt actually watch the games. This is just another lazy key take. When youre a jet youre a jet.
@@SwampusMcGarniglus if you listen to what he said, he said Pittsburgh or Baltimore are going to take one so there are only really two spots up for grabs
@@SwampusMcGarniglus Sure, but my point is he is saying one of those teams will take one spot so there are TWO SPOTS REMAINING so he fully acknowledges that there are three wild card play-off spots, he did not forget that at all as the original poster stated.
People that didn’t watch the game thought he was terrible. The only thing he did that was god awful was the 3rd pick but he was pretty good in the game and Buffalo could not move the ball against us. We were moving the Ball on them but we just have an issue against the Bills, idk if it’s fear or what.
16:20 - See, these are the things that make Bills fans mad. Allen was only the MVP favorite heading into the season *ONE TIME!* That was in 2022. That's it! "Every. Single. Year?" Really? Try once in 7 seasons 🙄
I like how Key just said how Mahomes has 10 interceptions so casually. Josh has 0 and they wanna ask if he's gonna go back to being a turnover machine. Smh.
November 3 is not cold in Buffalo. We're talking Fall here. It's literally the perfect football weather. Anywhere between low 60s to low 40s. Talk to us in late December. That's when it's starting to get mildly brisk.
It's cold for the dolphins.... We've been getting days with a high of 50. Dropping into mid 30s by 10pm. Weather here has been up and down rn, but it will definitely be cold for them, 2 weeks from now.
So, if Miami loses to Arizona, do you think they are going to Buffalo and win, they lost 31-10 in Miami, I see 3-4 wins on their schedule, Jets twice New England and possibly Cleveland. Allen has a running game, doesn't have to take chances. So far, he's only asked to be Clark Kent.
As of October 27, 2024, here's a comparison of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen's career interceptions: * Patrick Mahomes: 67 interceptions in 99 games * Josh Allen: 64 interceptions in 97 games
I’m here for Joy, she’s a queen. Keyshawn is a mouthy diva who’s career never warranted it and Paul Pierce majored in basketball since elementary school.
@@torettomalachi2248 its the truth tho, its the brothas in the comments alwYs shitting on allen and praising lamar. They just mad a white wb is the better running qb
@@solace4114 idk man. To me has nothing to do with race but just how they see it. Lamar & Allen are both having tremendous season’s so far. We should appreciate both for what they are. No need to talk either down to try up lift the other. They both elite QBs
I hate the race card, but there is some truth to this. Not so much the analysts, but definitely with everyday people. It seems like 80% of black dudes say Lamar is better, and 80% of white dudes and say Josh is better. I don't play that. I don't see either one as necessarily so much better than the other. They both have things they do better, and they are both lethal. If you can't give both of these guys mad respect, then probably just don't comment.
Troy Aikman, Bradshaw, Favre and Jim McMahon suffered MULTIPLE CONCUSSIONS and went on to win Super Bowls or have a successful seasons. With that being said these are just QB examples and it would be advantageous for me not to recognize the obvious and very possible conditions of Post Concussion Syndrome such as Dementia. For this, the overall Concussion protocol should include a player " Self Protection Clause " to prevent athletes from themselves. Multiple concussions/injuries help no one especially the injured player. How many concussions are deemed " Too Many " before the Organization steps in and says enough and exercises release protocols through restructuring contracts, severance or retirement negotiations. Not many players will stop on their own accord and while Tua is loved and appreciated by many...I wouldn't want to see him suffer long term worse than the expectation now if he happens to suffer yet another incident of concussion. It's a sad reality but a noble gesture of humanity towards any injured athlete.
He's coming back because he's their franchise QB. Every team can't make it to the Super Bowl and I am sure everyone knows the Dolphins are not going to the Super Bowl
Can't believe they're not talking about it, but Allen isn't forcing the ball because they have a running game...and yes, it's true that he doesn't have a diva #1. That's it. His interceptions were never a problem given the amount of production. If anything, it's the fumbles. Nobody has been more productive since 2020. I keep seeing article after article making excuses for Mahomes and somehow twisting the narrative that he's finding ways to win. It's not Mahomes, it's Andy Reid. It's always been Andy Reid. Mahomes (while still being elite) should have been the one they talked about being overrated. Not because he isn't great, but because he isn't on some other level. The 7-0 record just goes to show you that he doesn't need to be great and that team wins. If Allen played the same way that Mahomes has played, the Bills would have zero wins.
1. you really can’t judge a team based off of 2 games alone, (especially if one of them was a season opener in which neither team has played regular season football in quite literally a year) half the teams in the league rn have played 6+ and are still hard to rank and judge amongst others 2. buffalo is an in-division opponent who owns the dolphins year after year so no matter what happens in those games, the mental battle usually triumphs and dolphins don’t play the same 3. joy did have a point in saying it’s not fair to automatically chalk up wins for this team without really seeing what they look like after the cardinals game and even then the bills game (as referenced earlier) might not show the dolphins in a manner adjacent to how they fair against other teams so for now they really are just a wildcard until they get a few more games with tua under their belt 4. finallly, let’s all be so reall with ourselves for a second… do we really see a team like the colts or broncos making playoffs?? aside from KC, PIT, BAL, HOU, and BUF no other team in the afc is really guaranteed anything playoff-wise right now, which makes it wide open for 2 other wild card teams to show up. so with all that being said it’s unlikely the dolphins will make playoffs but not completely improbable or out of the ordinary. it just depends on if tua really does make this team that much better or not 🤷🏾♂️
2:37 They’re losing to the Bills, Greenbay, the Texans, and San Francisco. And if they don’t drop ANY other game, that puts them @ 9-8. They need to win one of those 4 to even sniff the playoffs.
In order to throw an interception the other team has to catch it. So throwing the most interceptions doesn't mean you threw the most interceptable balls it's science.
You can’t talk about them winning the next 3 games without talking about the possibility of them losing all three as well. Personally I predict 1-2, but there is easily a scenario where they become 2-7.
If Josh Allen had Mahomes numbers this year, they would be crushing him as a turnover machine. Allen has not had more int than tds multiple games into the season. The double standard is never ending and Key hates Allen and the Bills.
What kinda Dolphin's fan is joy. Tua always struggles against the bills and he was in the red zone when he got hurt. It was just the beginning of the 4th quarter and they would have been down 2 tds. The one win they have against the bills looked a lot like this game. She gave this team no credit. Am i the only one who watched them runaway with the best offense in the league last year?
Hey guys Josh Stanley here don’t listen to this man right here that’s that’s not going all down you guys go ahead and you win that game and you run it down their throat because I want you to win I need you to win I believe in you and there is don’t ever listen to the critics look at me I am Cheryl palsy and I have to fight every order every every battle in my life you do not listen to these guys I am I remember a lot of teams coming back from two and four records and they still want to see they still won the Super Bowl come on guys don’t listen to these critics you can do it your fan just for Stanley
Josh Allen does not care about interceptions as much as all the talking clowns do. They don’t understand that. He cares about giving his team the lead.
I agree wit key on this one there’s the top 2 and then there’s everybody else. If Jalen, Dak, Jayden, Josh… goes on a crazy win streak they would jump to top 3 and get all the media attention 😂
“Is Josh Allen going to revert back into a turnover machine?” Has the be the laziest worst writing I’ve seen in a long time. Maybe focus on what’s going right instead of waiting for things to go wrong all the time.
The Tua chatter is nonsense and not reality based Dude sucks, is injury prone and now with multiple BRUTAL CONCUSSIONS that are coming easier and easier
OR maybe, just maybe, Allen has less passes attempted because Buffalos running the ball more than they have in recent years? You know like all these desk goons were complaining about last year
I can easily see the Phins losing another 8 games based off of the schedule, AFC teams play each other tough and the Jets always seem to have the Phins number. No one would be shocked if either the Cards or the Rams beat them. Bills, Texans and GB are tough games and likely will be losses. Niners as well. Remember this is a team that has yet to beat a "good" team in two years other than "Dallas" . So to expect them to suddenly win more than once against a good team with less talent than last year seems like wishful thinking to me.
Some really think Josh Allen is on Mahomes Level? Anybody remember when the Bills OC raged and slammed the tablet in the booth on his desk over and over like a Nelly Song? 🎵 yeah it was because *JOSH ALLEN* didn’t know how to spike the ball 😂😂😂 and time expired costing the game.
Miami is done. The better half of their schedule is all high powered teams. No way they can beat the Texans, packers, 49ners bills. That already puts them at 8 losses. And the jets probably win maybe around the same or one more then them. Unless they beat the jets both times and the patriots next they aren't getting anything. It's a huge and pretty much impossible uphill battle.
The way they talk u would think that the bills was trash before cooper came and that's not a fact ..smdh they was already a good team the shade mfs throw I'd insane
Bro do y’all here the first words Keyshawn said about Josh Allen ??? DOG .. THESE PEOPLE HATE JOSH SO BAAADDDD … I MEAN THE GUY HAD NO STAR ELITE WR … pron to throw a INT and the guy has taken care of the ball more then ever and the guy speaks proceeds to speak about the LACK OF TALENT JOSH HAS FOR HELP 😂😂😂 BRO I CANT MAKE THIS UP ! … I mean what world are we living in .. WE RAVE ABOUT TEAMS HAVING AND NEEDING WEAPONS BUT THE GUY DOSENT HAVE NONE AND STILL GETS AN EXCUSE TO JOT GIVE JOSH ALLEN HIS FCKING CREDIT BRO ..
Allen > Mahomes Reid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McDermott Rest of Chiefs' team/staff >>>>>>>>> rest of Bills' team/staff Pretty simple equation as to why one has rings and the other doesn't over the past 5-6 years. Mahomes playing like dogsh** and being undefeated due to elite defense and situational coaching is proof positive wins are not a qb stat.
Keyshaun is consistantly the worst anylsis in football. Dak and purdy are nowhere near allen. Allen has his down spikes in performence for sure. But cmon dude. Where are we?
they *never* were a good team - they were a gimmick team with all the presnap motion and exploiting NFL rules combined with a track team in speed. Tua or no Tua, any starting QB would had success in that system until the league caught up to them. And they did, the NFL addressed the presnap motion in the offseason and all the good defenses/coords had figured out this offense already when the narrative began that the team couldnt beat anyone good. The amount of gaslighting that the media and the fans do to believe that Tua is the one is absurd.
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I like how people talk about Josh Allen’s turn overs but not the fact that Josh Allen and Patrick mahomes have the same amount of turn overs the last two years and in that same time frame Josh has the same amount of passing tds and 21 more rushing tds
And 3 less rings 😂😂😂😂
Somehow Allen having a lack of weapons made him throw less INTs but Mahomes with a lack of weapons made him throw more. Interesting take by KJ but he's a Jet for life so no surprise he hates the bills and anyone that plays for them.
@@df6148because mahomes joined an already stacked team with 11 and 12 wins every year before him, has the best coach best te best pass blocking o line best defense he doesn’t even have to play good
@@df6148sadly the truth lol
@@df6148At the end of the day you replied to a comment talking about stats and all you mentioned is that Patty has more rings than Josh… While you’re not wrong you’re comparing apples to oranges there bud. Rings are a team accomplishment not an individual stat 🤷🏽♂️
"Leads the league in turnovers since 2018..."
Yeah, because only Josh Allen & Patrick Mahomes have really been staring since 2018, stayed healthy, and are still playing today!
Brady, Big Ben, Brees, Rivers, Ryan, etc. - retired
Cousins, Lamar, Stafford, Burrow, Tua, Watson, Carr, Dak, Murray, Rodgers, etc. - Injuries/Suspension
Lawrence, Herbert, Burrow (again), Stroud, Hurts, Tua (again), Murray (again), Richardson, Fields, etc. - Drafted years later
Jimmy G, Zack Wilson, Darnold, Mayfield, Mac Jones, etc - Benched
Then you have guys like Geno Smith & others who were backups that became starters, but haven't been starting since 2018.
So going by "most total turnovers" among a very small group is misleading. He also set the record for most total TDs in a QB's first 100 games, most total TDs in first 6 years, and is either 1st or 2nd in the league in TDs since 2018 as well.
Best comment of this year 👏 what a breakdown you are exactly right💯
Yes but it’s going to forever be a topic until he has less TOs then the guys people argue he’s better than Lamar , Mahomes , Burrow. That and the bills never getting the 1 seed is why Lamar has 2 MVPs and Josh has none
When you are a great player like JA people are going to nitpick until you improve or win SB/MVP
I never have seen this take before and it is 🔥
@@MrEvanat305 Tbh I think he should have been the MVP last year. Lamar was efficient, but he had 6-8 games where he didn't do anything and their defense was the real star. Much ado was made about Allen's turnovers costing the Bills games, but none of his turnovers led to the Bills losing a lead in the 4th quarter and 8-10 of his picks were tips, drops by his receivers that are unlucky more than anything, or schemed up 50/50 balls that were essentially punts.
I think the preference for Lamar is just a narrative thing. Lamar has always had the support of the media behind him, even all the way back in his draft cycle and especially when he fell to the end of the 1st round. The "I'm more than just a running back." narrative combined with the racial narrative (As unfortunate as it is, his race has always been a factor in his media coverage) gives him this constant tailwind.
Allen was the exact opposite, he was viewed as everything wrong with the archaic scouting systems of old that loved big guys with big arms who couldn't read a defense, and a large portion of NFL media bet their reputation on him being a bust. His rise to a universally accepted top 5 QB burned a ton of the scouting and media circles and single-handedly destroyed the analytics stranglehold over scouting that had materialized in the mid-2010's, and I think the resentment still lingers.
Josh is going on 10 or 11 games with no interception going back to last year. His turnovers dropped considerably when Diggs disappeared down the stretch.
Keyshawn trying to say Brady is going to walk Josh into turnovers just shows how far hes reaching. Sounds like I’m listening to a jets fan n a dolphins fan hope on Josh’s downfall
crazy how unlucky the bills and their fans are historically but they have josh allen and hes that dude
It's hard to admit this, yet each day, Paul Pierce's analysis of football is improving! Not really saying, "You know what I mean!"
Keyshawn is so bad at this. How does he keep getting gigs?
All people look at is a total number. Coming into the season his turnover rate was 2.3% do y'all realize that is on par or lower than many Hall of famers? That's lower than Joe Montana! Why don't we talk about the fact that nobody in the NFL has scored more touchdowns in the past 4 years? Is the only player in history to record 4000 plus passing and 40 plus touchdowns 4 years in a row. But y'all ain't ready for that conversation
Talk! 🗣️ Unfortunately that doesn’t fit their narrative.
Keyshawn is so terrible at analysis sometimes. Do a little research if you're going to comment on these things. Cuz you just wrong about Josh's turnovers. Number one, he is never been a turnover machine. His career turnover rate is barely higher than mahomes. You and others keep claiming that his interceptions are going down cuz he's not forcing the ball to Diggs. Wrong! He only threw three interceptions last year when targeting diggs, and four while targeting Davis. Most of those pics happened on deep 50/50 balls where diggs and Davis were very weak at the catch point. Most of his interceptions don't come off him being reckless like stupid people claim. About half of them come on deep 50/50 balls where his wide receivers didn't fight for the ball, or at least play defense. Another chunk of his intersections come from miscommunication on routes. The player ziggs when he thinks they are zagging. This narrative is completely idiotic. His interceptions are down because he's not relying as heavily on route development and separation. He's working through progressions quickly and if he sees a player isn't shaking free, or if it's too tight, he's moving to his next progression. Having Cooper definitely helps because he's a top-notch receiver that defenses are having to account for which is creating mismatches elsewhere. Not unlike any other offense in the league.
before diggs he was an average qb and to despite his team being 4-2 his franchise didnt trust him with out a number 1 wr
@@kasanova44burn stefon Diggs didn't make Josh Allen. His arrival just happened to coincide with the off-season where Josh went through rigorous overhaul of his mechanics with Jordan Palmer. Getting diggs didn't magically make Josh much more accurate. He just finally got some help with things that he didn't have access to at a small college. Things that other top quarterbacks coming out have at their disposal at these major universities. If there is any quarterback in the league that can win without a number one wideout it's Josh. Nobody in the league can create their own success more than Josh. Lamar Jackson didn't look great either when he didn't have a top wide out. At least he's always had a good offensive line and a great running attack. It took Josh four seasons to get anything close to that.
@@kasanova44burnHe was a Rookie
Buddy in the comments writing paragraphs. It’s not that serious
@@kasanova44burndiggs was on year 6 or 7? Coming to Buffalo. Barely exceeding 1000 yards only 2 times in his career... but diggs, was sooooooo great, that he made allen.
Paul Pierce has been doing really good as an analyst. You can tell he's definitely safe with his football takes and that he's still learning. But he's been doing very well!
Dolphins are done as done can be.
Some talking heads just don’t believe their own words.
I agree. If you're talking about making the wild cards, Season is done.
Joy hardly ever supported Tua. Paul gained more respect today 💯 He was on point!
Tua isn't that good. His stats r inflated because of Waddle and Hill. He throws the ball on short to medium throws and then his wrs r fast so they get a lot of RAC. The RAC goes to the QBs stats. The NFL has to only give the yards to the QB where the WR catches it. Then the YAC yards only go to the WR.
@@1yankeesrulealso gotta realize we have a terrible Offense line we have to throw short
@1yankeesrule Tuas been on the back half of the league in YAC for the last 2 yrs. WHAT? 😂🤣 With that logic, explain how Waddle and Tyreek have done jack squat since Tuas been out? He makes them better. Not the other way around
You right Keyshawn
How does Keyshawn have a job
Lol he's not that bad
@@TonyMontana-tp4mn you’re right he’s worse
Lol Keyshawn good.. it's not a good show if everyone agrees 😂
@@jeffreyimagine7962keyshawn is right allen ovverated
@@micahjohnson138 wrong !! Lamar is overrated and Derrick Henry is the only reason the ravens look good
I don't think JA is going to try to force the ball to AC. AC isnt going to whine if he doesnt get the ball all of the time.
Keyshawn forgot there's been 3 wild cArd teams for the conference fo 3 seasons
To his credit in his NFL career it was only 2. Gotta get up on the new NFL tho if you are gonna be an analyst
nah, its his job to know better, its already clear he doesnt actually watch the games. This is just another lazy key take. When youre a jet youre a jet.
@@SwampusMcGarniglus if you listen to what he said, he said Pittsburgh or Baltimore are going to take one so there are only really two spots up for grabs
@@TheInterestedObserver its week 8 theyre all up for grabs. The steelers are waiting to fall apart. cant win every week on circus catches.
@@SwampusMcGarniglus Sure, but my point is he is saying one of those teams will take one spot so there are TWO SPOTS REMAINING so he fully acknowledges that there are three wild card play-off spots, he did not forget that at all as the original poster stated.
Tua was terrible in the Bills game before he even got concussed. He’s an average QB in this league.
Thanks 4 speaking the truth
If leading the league in Passing yards is average then you must have very high standards.. where do I find your career NFL stats? Lol
People that didn’t watch the game thought he was terrible. The only thing he did that was god awful was the 3rd pick but he was pretty good in the game and Buffalo could not move the ball against us. We were moving the Ball on them but we just have an issue against the Bills, idk if it’s fear or what.
That's why he had the best stats last year right
Two of his picks weren't on him, and he's definitely above average.
16:20 - See, these are the things that make Bills fans mad. Allen was only the MVP favorite heading into the season *ONE TIME!*
That was in 2022. That's it!
"Every. Single. Year?" Really? Try once in 7 seasons 🙄
The dude on the left is the type of father I needed growing up to believe in me and tell me I could do more than I logically or actually could...🤣
I like how Key just said how Mahomes has 10 interceptions so casually. Josh has 0 and they wanna ask if he's gonna go back to being a turnover machine. Smh.
He doesn’t even know what he’s talking about because Mahomes has 8 not 10.
Yeah his 2 top qbs have interceptions josh don't that's why he glossed over that fact
Yeah Key the guy known for running to the right & extending plays needs to be more patient 🤦♂️
- JOY!!! another fantastic look, wow!
Keyshawn is on point. Fins fan here.
No Paul, they CANNOT deal with that (cold) 🤣
November 3 is not cold in Buffalo. We're talking Fall here. It's literally the perfect football weather. Anywhere between low 60s to low 40s. Talk to us in late December. That's when it's starting to get mildly brisk.
It's cold for the dolphins.... We've been getting days with a high of 50. Dropping into mid 30s by 10pm. Weather here has been up and down rn, but it will definitely be cold for them, 2 weeks from now.
@@halfbak3d it was 67 just 2 days ago. But yeah, anything under 70 is cold for the Dolphins. They're mentally weak.
It's a game of matchups when you have two Tight ends and two running backs that can catch his fast balls doubling wideouts can leave someone open.
Jets look better? What the?!!!!
17 not winning MVP last year will always be a travesty
Everyone eats is real cooper doesn’t complain about getting the ball like diggs so no need to force anyone the ball
So, if Miami loses to Arizona, do you think they are going to Buffalo and win, they lost 31-10 in Miami, I see 3-4 wins on their schedule, Jets twice New England and possibly Cleveland. Allen has a running game, doesn't have to take chances. So far, he's only asked to be Clark Kent.
As of October 27, 2024, here's a comparison of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen's career interceptions:
* Patrick Mahomes: 67 interceptions in 99 games
* Josh Allen: 64 interceptions in 97 games
Man it's over for Miami Tue return isn't going to help them hopefully he stay healthy.
Keyshawn makes living hating on Josh Allen. He's leading the league with multiple pass catchers even with Amari Cooper.
I give it 10 more games and Tua will be concussed, it’s not like we aren’t going to witness it yet again
Before this season I don’t believe Josh had ever gone two games without throwing a pick before. So going 7 is more than an anomaly in my eyes
I’m here for Joy, she’s a queen. Keyshawn is a mouthy diva who’s career never warranted it and Paul Pierce majored in basketball since elementary school.
Everyone always mentions how Josh is a turnover machine, but never mentions how he's a touchdown machine.
If josh allen was black they wouldnt hate
Playing the race card is crazy.
@@torettomalachi2248 its the truth tho, its the brothas in the comments alwYs shitting on allen and praising lamar. They just mad a white wb is the better running qb
@@solace4114 idk man. To me has nothing to do with race but just how they see it. Lamar & Allen are both having tremendous season’s so far. We should appreciate both for what they are. No need to talk either down to try up lift the other. They both elite QBs
I hate the race card, but there is some truth to this. Not so much the analysts, but definitely with everyday people. It seems like 80% of black dudes say Lamar is better, and 80% of white dudes and say Josh is better. I don't play that. I don't see either one as necessarily so much better than the other. They both have things they do better, and they are both lethal. If you can't give both of these guys mad respect, then probably just don't comment.
@junyajax well, I'm white as snow, I say they are both roughly the same. I'd still take lamarr over josh but barely.
Troy Aikman, Bradshaw, Favre and Jim McMahon suffered MULTIPLE CONCUSSIONS and went on to win Super Bowls or have a successful seasons. With that being said these are just QB examples and it would be advantageous for me not to recognize the obvious and very possible conditions of Post Concussion Syndrome such as Dementia. For this, the overall Concussion protocol should include a player " Self Protection Clause " to prevent athletes from themselves. Multiple concussions/injuries help no one especially the injured player. How many concussions are deemed " Too Many " before the Organization steps in and says enough and exercises release protocols through restructuring contracts, severance or retirement negotiations. Not many players will stop on their own accord and while Tua is loved and appreciated by many...I wouldn't want to see him suffer long term worse than the expectation now if he happens to suffer yet another incident of concussion. It's a sad reality but a noble gesture of humanity towards any injured athlete.
He's coming back because he's their franchise QB. Every team can't make it to the Super Bowl and I am sure everyone knows the Dolphins are not going to the Super Bowl
Can't believe they're not talking about it, but Allen isn't forcing the ball because they have a running game...and yes, it's true that he doesn't have a diva #1. That's it.
His interceptions were never a problem given the amount of production. If anything, it's the fumbles. Nobody has been more productive since 2020.
I keep seeing article after article making excuses for Mahomes and somehow twisting the narrative that he's finding ways to win. It's not Mahomes, it's Andy Reid. It's always been Andy Reid. Mahomes (while still being elite) should have been the one they talked about being overrated. Not because he isn't great, but because he isn't on some other level. The 7-0 record just goes to show you that he doesn't need to be great and that team wins. If Allen played the same way that Mahomes has played, the Bills would have zero wins.
Shakir is 27 of 27 on targets. No one reliable? That is literally the most reliable wr in the league
Joy we was getting smoke but it is week 2
What is Paul Pierce doing here talking football? He's clearly out of place, confused as to why Key was saying it's gonna be cold in Buffalo.
1. you really can’t judge a team based off of 2 games alone, (especially if one of them was a season opener in which neither team has played regular season football in quite literally a year) half the teams in the league rn have played 6+ and are still hard to rank and judge amongst others
2. buffalo is an in-division opponent who owns the dolphins year after year so no matter what happens in those games, the mental battle usually triumphs and dolphins don’t play the same
3. joy did have a point in saying it’s not fair to automatically chalk up wins for this team without really seeing what they look like after the cardinals game and even then the bills game (as referenced earlier) might not show the dolphins in a manner adjacent to how they fair against other teams so for now they really are just a wildcard until they get a few more games with tua under their belt
4. finallly, let’s all be so reall with ourselves for a second… do we really see a team like the colts or broncos making playoffs?? aside from KC, PIT, BAL, HOU, and BUF no other team in the afc is really guaranteed anything playoff-wise right now, which makes it wide open for 2 other wild card teams to show up. so with all that being said it’s unlikely the dolphins will make playoffs but not completely improbable or out of the ordinary. it just depends on if tua really does make this team that much better or not 🤷🏾♂️
2:37 They’re losing to the Bills, Greenbay, the Texans, and San Francisco. And if they don’t drop ANY other game, that puts them @ 9-8. They need to win one of those 4 to even sniff the playoffs.
He's been throwing int they just been dropped! He said it himself
It was a joke watch how he said it only one that don't know that is u
Josh with turn overs is still the best team in AFC east by far
And fyi josh has zero turnovers haters mahomes has 8 get over it
It's not an interception until it's caught!
In order to throw an interception the other team has to catch it. So throwing the most interceptions doesn't mean you threw the most interceptable balls it's science.
You can’t talk about them winning the next 3 games without talking about the possibility of them losing all three as well. Personally I predict 1-2, but there is easily a scenario where they become 2-7.
If Josh Allen had Mahomes numbers this year, they would be crushing him as a turnover machine. Allen has not had more int than tds multiple games into the season. The double standard is never ending and Key hates Allen and the Bills.
What kinda Dolphin's fan is joy. Tua always struggles against the bills and he was in the red zone when he got hurt. It was just the beginning of the 4th quarter and they would have been down 2 tds. The one win they have against the bills looked a lot like this game. She gave this team no credit. Am i the only one who watched them runaway with the best offense in the league last year?
Hey guys Josh Stanley here don’t listen to this man right here that’s that’s not going all down you guys go ahead and you win that game and you run it down their throat because I want you to win I need you to win I believe in you and there is don’t ever listen to the critics look at me I am Cheryl palsy and I have to fight every order every every battle in my life you do not listen to these guys I am I remember a lot of teams coming back from two and four records and they still want to see they still won the Super Bowl come on guys don’t listen to these critics you can do it your fan just for Stanley
How Mami can you count on a Qb that if he answered his cellphone he could be concussed.. dolphins done
The dolphins points for this entire season so far are 10 points less than the game last year against the Broncos.
there is no way Keyshawn said the jets look better... what is he watching?
It was 24 to 10 in the Buffalo game when he got injured. Smh 🤦🏿♂️ they really just be talking
31 - 10 I was there
No it was 31 - 10
Still time to delete this comment
he got hurt in the end of the third quarter
Yeah and he threw three interceptions before he got injured
Josh Allen does not care about interceptions as much as all the talking clowns do. They don’t understand that. He cares about giving his team the lead.
I agree wit key on this one there’s the top 2 and then there’s everybody else. If Jalen, Dak, Jayden, Josh… goes on a crazy win streak they would jump to top 3 and get all the media attention 😂
Key just don't like allen never has he love lamar Jackson that's all that is he was also riding high on dolphins last year also key just a fan
“Is Josh Allen going to revert back into a turnover machine?” Has the be the laziest worst writing I’ve seen in a long time. Maybe focus on what’s going right instead of waiting for things to go wrong all the time.
The Tua chatter is nonsense and not reality based
Dude sucks, is injury prone and now with multiple BRUTAL CONCUSSIONS that are coming easier and easier
Who is saying Tua is the Dolphins best player? Paul Pierce is smoking 🪨.
So have these guys watched a bills game cause it don’t sound like it 🙄 Keion and Khalil been getting busy
He definitely voted
lol Tua coming back just in time for the Bills to take him out yet again in 1 week!
Pack your bags dolphins
THIS WAS A GREAT MOVE FOR THE BILLS COPPER IS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS ALLEN
KEY IS STILL AWFUL TO ME
Didn't watch the vid, just wanted to say, Joy Taylor go get Cam Newton to save this show, these fellas are not entertaining enough.
Then using that stupid player voting thing is f****** dumb it was 11 people out of 203
I like Joy w her braids❤❤
My big 4
Patrick M
J Goff
Josh Allen
Sam Darnold
Keyshawn a hater give Josh his props lol Go Bills
A few .inuyes in, I'm like, is that the Answer?!?! When did he cross over and start doing football?
I put jqred Goff up there
OR maybe, just maybe, Allen has less passes attempted because Buffalos running the ball more than they have in recent years? You know like all these desk goons were complaining about last year
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!❤️💙🦬🏈
Paul talking crazy he better wake up😊😊
I can easily see the Phins losing another 8 games based off of the schedule, AFC teams play each other tough and the Jets always seem to have the Phins number. No one would be shocked if either the Cards or the Rams beat them. Bills, Texans and GB are tough games and likely will be losses. Niners as well. Remember this is a team that has yet to beat a "good" team in two years other than "Dallas" . So to expect them to suddenly win more than once against a good team with less talent than last year seems like wishful thinking to me.
Jets 💀 tua owns them
@@hailey1217-r4n pretty much everyone has owned the Jets. Jets still historically play the Phins tough.
See if Miami's team can win 6-9!Everything has their own rip of opinions!
Tua back for the Bills game. They will knock him out again. Then what?
Some really think Josh Allen is on Mahomes Level? Anybody remember when the Bills OC raged and slammed the tablet in the booth on his desk over and over like a Nelly Song? 🎵 yeah it was because *JOSH ALLEN* didn’t know how to spike the ball 😂😂😂 and time expired costing the game.
Keyshawn thinks he was an expert Wr and can speak knowledge he's wrong
How Paul talks football better than key. Key just sounds like a hater.
Miami is done. The better half of their schedule is all high powered teams. No way they can beat the Texans, packers, 49ners bills. That already puts them at 8 losses. And the jets probably win maybe around the same or one more then them. Unless they beat the jets both times and the patriots next they aren't getting anything. It's a huge and pretty much impossible uphill battle.
Bro have faith Tua went on a win streak after an injury before
The way they talk u would think that the bills was trash before cooper came and that's not a fact ..smdh they was already a good team the shade mfs throw I'd insane
What’s that dude mean the cold dosent matter lmao the only time they were ever good in the cold is wen they had Marino from pittsburgh
Keyshawn Johnson really isn't very bright.
Josh Allen may be being to careful with passing not taking necessary chances to win 🤔
That got Rodgers 4 mvps
Lol yall so stupid it's funny....pure ability and talent he the best in the nfl point blank and the real ones know
Buffalo and The Rams were both losses they losing one to the jets losing to the Texans and maybe the 49ers
Mahomes is not having a great season at all and it has not been a topic yet.
Bro do y’all here the first words Keyshawn said about Josh Allen ??? DOG .. THESE PEOPLE HATE JOSH SO BAAADDDD … I MEAN THE GUY HAD NO STAR ELITE WR … pron to throw a INT and the guy has taken care of the ball more then ever and the guy speaks proceeds to speak about the LACK OF TALENT JOSH HAS FOR HELP 😂😂😂 BRO I CANT MAKE THIS UP ! … I mean what world are we living in .. WE RAVE ABOUT TEAMS HAVING AND NEEDING WEAPONS BUT THE GUY DOSENT HAVE NONE AND STILL GETS AN EXCUSE TO JOT GIVE JOSH ALLEN HIS FCKING CREDIT BRO ..
Keyshawn been an Allen hater since day 1...
Shakir is reliable?
respect joy she wasnt a homer for once lol
Allen > Mahomes
Reid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> McDermott
Rest of Chiefs' team/staff >>>>>>>>> rest of Bills' team/staff
Pretty simple equation as to why one has rings and the other doesn't over the past 5-6 years. Mahomes playing like dogsh** and being undefeated due to elite defense and situational coaching is proof positive wins are not a qb stat.
Keyshaun is consistantly the worst anylsis in football. Dak and purdy are nowhere near allen. Allen has his down spikes in performence for sure. But cmon dude. Where are we?
Literally the 3 worst analysts I've seen on TV.
Why did I click on this? Joy go back to shady n them
Josh Allen is the best player in the NFL right now
they *never* were a good team - they were a gimmick team with all the presnap motion and exploiting NFL rules combined with a track team in speed. Tua or no Tua, any starting QB would had success in that system until the league caught up to them. And they did, the NFL addressed the presnap motion in the offseason and all the good defenses/coords had figured out this offense already when the narrative began that the team couldnt beat anyone good. The amount of gaslighting that the media and the fans do to believe that Tua is the one is absurd.