Such a good talk. I didn't think about testing something out of obligation until now, but I totally understand that. Like we only live once, why waste time on fragrances that don't attract you. This gives me the ambition not to force anything from now on 😍
I watched an interview with Geza Schoen about his M+ line. With the iris, specifically, he said he used iris pallida which, apparently, is shockingly expensive to work with. He also mentioned there was more in the composition than just ISO e and Iris, and then referenced bergamot as one such element. It still may not be an expensive perfume to produce, overall, but I agree with the idea of simply buying what you love. Many times, especially with independent brands, there may be more artistry involved than initially apparent. Thanks for the thoughtful chat you both shared! I enjoyed it!
sorry I missed the live Cherie and Pep! I would have joined in on the Chanel talk - they are in court for 6 year with a Czech online seller Notino, they won in Dec but Notino appealed. Chanel wants them to reveal their sources as they are not their distributors....to be continued.
Pep's cartoonish voice at the beginning was hilarious. 🤭 Especially at 2x speed. Great discussion! Love the code words that Pep mentioned. So true. And as for Geza Schon's molecular concoctions, I was surprised how much I enjoyed Escentric 04 and 05. M01+Iris also a beauty. Value propositions are always difficult.
Great conversation. I am so afraid that how prices are increasing that there will be no more purchasing 100ml bottles. It will only be smaller decant that one can afford
My limit used to be £200 but I think with prices increases that will have to go up to £220-250, but for that it will have to be an absolute love. I'm specifically thinking of a brand like Atelier Materi which I love and I own one bottle of (I would own the whole line if money wasn't a consideration). They used to be £185 for 100ml and have gone up to £210. Also when I need to repurchase my fave MFK Petit Matin, that has gone up from £165 to £185 in the space of 2 years. I can't see myself spending more than £250 though to be honest. As for performance, I absolutely don't want loud or beast perfumes. I don't see the appeal at all. I find it obnoxious. At the same time I don't want to not be able to smell something on my skin after half an hour. I usually get compliments from friends, family and co-workers when they are standing close to me. If a stranger on the bus can compliment me, it is simply too strong, I'm so not about attracting random strangers! 😂
Same I prefer them to be a bit quieter, also I enjoy the activity of spritzing and trying to measure out half a spray so as to not go into beast mode, is strangely not so satisfying 😅 I think for me, instead of having an upper limit, I just need to fever more to decants. I have more bottles than I know what to do with anyway
Ingredients is a hard one. Sometimes quality speaks, or better, smells clear. However I care about the experience: if you ask for a lot of money I expect a great experience with the perfume, especially balance, smoothness, layers, a multifaceted olfactory experience, and some performance. Probably how the house gets there is no big deal for me 😊 in the end I am dealing with the outcome 😅
If I had only two perfumes (equally loved), and both cost the same ($200/bottle), then the cost per wear is hard to ignore if one lasts 2 hours and the other 6. 😁 Now that I own several, it’s easier to willfully ignore the true cost of a perfume.
Shout out to Skin Scents for Fusspots, she put me onto Eden by Cacharel which is dry, green, peppery and weirdly lovely to my nose. I layered it, by chance with Elizabeth Arden"s Green Tea . Talk about cost effective loveliness. On the other hand , I just forked out 300 AUD for 50 ml of Blondine. No regrets as I love it but there are other ways to get the fragrance fix.
Thanks for sharing!! I love finding ways to smell great without blowing the budget. I may be a little biased but Blondine is totally worth the splurge.
As far as perfume goes, there will always be the misconception that price equals quality, most of the times it just means a pretty looking bottle. At the end of the day things worth what people are willing to pay for them. Diaghilev is an amazing chypre, but when I have options like the new Cabochard formulation for 30€ or Bandit for 180€, it's a no brainer.
Such a good talk. I didn't think about testing something out of obligation until now, but I totally understand that. Like we only live once, why waste time on fragrances that don't attract you. This gives me the ambition not to force anything from now on 😍
I need to remind myself regularly!
I watched an interview with Geza Schoen about his M+ line. With the iris, specifically, he said he used iris pallida which, apparently, is shockingly expensive to work with. He also mentioned there was more in the composition than just ISO e and Iris, and then referenced bergamot as one such element.
It still may not be an expensive perfume to produce, overall, but I agree with the idea of simply buying what you love. Many times, especially with independent brands, there may be more artistry involved than initially apparent.
Thanks for the thoughtful chat you both shared! I enjoyed it!
Thank you Anna!
sorry I missed the live Cherie and Pep! I would have joined in on the Chanel talk - they are in court for 6 year with a Czech online seller Notino, they won in Dec but Notino appealed. Chanel wants them to reveal their sources as they are not their distributors....to be continued.
Pep's cartoonish voice at the beginning was hilarious. 🤭 Especially at 2x speed. Great discussion! Love the code words that Pep mentioned. So true. And as for Geza Schon's molecular concoctions, I was surprised how much I enjoyed Escentric 04 and 05. M01+Iris also a beauty. Value propositions are always difficult.
😂 i had to put it on 2x now
Hey!@@FragrantVenerations
Lol
Always a pleasure to watch my two favourite perfume people💛
Thanks Gail x
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Great conversation. I am so afraid that how prices are increasing that there will be no more purchasing 100ml bottles. It will only be smaller decant that one can afford
Same
Thank you it was a great live
Thanks, Jon
Thank you Jon! xx
Really lovely chat thanks for sharing this with us ❤
20:49 Chanel will destroy product rather than see it passed to discounters.
Sad
I think you might be right. Even some of the changes that are apparently coming just broaden the divide….
Love seeing these live videos :) I wanna know what Floris Pep bought 👀 is it Neroli Voyage?
Santal
My limit used to be £200 but I think with prices increases that will have to go up to £220-250, but for that it will have to be an absolute love. I'm specifically thinking of a brand like Atelier Materi which I love and I own one bottle of (I would own the whole line if money wasn't a consideration). They used to be £185 for 100ml and have gone up to £210. Also when I need to repurchase my fave MFK Petit Matin, that has gone up from £165 to £185 in the space of 2 years. I can't see myself spending more than £250 though to be honest.
As for performance, I absolutely don't want loud or beast perfumes. I don't see the appeal at all. I find it obnoxious. At the same time I don't want to not be able to smell something on my skin after half an hour. I usually get compliments from friends, family and co-workers when they are standing close to me. If a stranger on the bus can compliment me, it is simply too strong, I'm so not about attracting random strangers! 😂
Same I prefer them to be a bit quieter, also I enjoy the activity of spritzing and trying to measure out half a spray so as to not go into beast mode, is strangely not so satisfying 😅
I think for me, instead of having an upper limit, I just need to fever more to decants. I have more bottles than I know what to do with anyway
Ingredients is a hard one. Sometimes quality speaks, or better, smells clear. However I care about the experience: if you ask for a lot of money I expect a great experience with the perfume, especially balance, smoothness, layers, a multifaceted olfactory experience, and some performance. Probably how the house gets there is no big deal for me 😊 in the end I am dealing with the outcome 😅
Shame I missed the live, but great to catch up on this conversation ❤
If I had only two perfumes (equally loved), and both cost the same ($200/bottle), then the cost per wear is hard to ignore if one lasts 2 hours and the other 6. 😁 Now that I own several, it’s easier to willfully ignore the true cost of a perfume.
That is true, it is indeed a privileged position to not have to think about it.
Shout out to Skin Scents for Fusspots, she put me onto Eden by Cacharel which is dry, green, peppery and weirdly lovely to my nose. I layered it, by chance with Elizabeth Arden"s Green Tea . Talk about cost effective loveliness. On the other hand , I just forked out 300 AUD for 50 ml of Blondine. No regrets as I love it but there are other ways to get the fragrance fix.
Thanks for sharing!! I love finding ways to smell great without blowing the budget. I may be a little biased but Blondine is totally worth the splurge.
As far as perfume goes, there will always be the misconception that price equals quality, most of the times it just means a pretty looking bottle. At the end of the day things worth what people are willing to pay for them. Diaghilev is an amazing chypre, but when I have options like the new Cabochard formulation for 30€ or Bandit for 180€, it's a no brainer.
So true. I could never afford Diaghilev at full price and Bandit is incredible.
Poppy loves her Mom 😂
A little too much sometimes! 😅
Frederic Malle leaving could be a sign indeed. It’s true as well that his name will stay on the brand
Portrait of a Lady lasts and is gorgeous. I live quite frugally but it is kind of worth it.
@@julieturner1541 hopefully the fragrance won’t be worsened!! Maybe a good time to buy a back up 🤷🏻♀️
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