The one and only change I don't like is the camera angle at the end where Zack can barely fight anymore. The original version had a view of Midgar in the background. It's so sad because it's RIGHT THERE and it makes it hit harder just seeing how close Zack was to returning only to be gunned down on that cliff.
While the psp version detail is fairly tragic, I prefer the Reunion version for showcasing how much damage Zack dealt to the Shinra Army. You can actually see dead troopers and even destroyed helicopters across the map, And I enjoy the result of the battlefield because it really shows how tough Zack is facing them all alone even though he’s heading to death’s door.
Yes, Zack, I would say, that you had become a hero. You will be missed. I also like how they changed the ending Aerith scene to be more in line with the Remake.
This reminds me of how much can change by the pure fact of Zack being alive. The bombing run at the start of ff7 takes place like a week or two after cloud makes it to midgar. Zack showing up at shinra would cause chaos in many ways
Yep but it was changed at the end of ff7 remake, he will be in rebirth and important, more than he was before. The remake timeline no longer follows the original.
@@infamous1164 , I believe he is...in some alternate timeline. Until we get the third game, we won't know for sure what the hell is going on. The game _AND_ the story has been, quite literally, remade. 🤣
Okay, I think the scene where Zack's actively dying is good from both VAs. They're both pretty on top of all the breaths and nonverbal inflections when they move, or try to move, and Cody letting his voice drop on "living legacy" was a good tonal choice. He actually sounds like he's completely handing over his dreams and honor in his delivery. Rick Gomez has this subtext of "Please do this for me," and the Japanese VA leans into the inflection that his dreams and honor are gift worth giving. Cloud's new VA is really solid in that scene, gets across how ragged Cloud's feeling. His scream is, almost, as good as Takahiro Sakurai's. I am pleased that Zack got to keep his jawline in the higher def scenes.
They did a great job with redoing the final DMW spins. I was afraid that it was going to happen in the Background and you hear voiced while fighting. This is better than what I imagined. 7:34 One thing that I noticed in Reunion for both the English and the Japanese dub is that Zack doesn't have an echo in his scream. Weird that they didn't include it. Everything else was great tho. Also like that they gave the guns new sound effects and everything.
My head canon about the buster sword, it had that gold thing on it when angeal and zack were using it since they are taking care of that sword. But when cloud used it he brought wear, tear and rust on the sword then it needed to be repaired and had that those bolts placed on it. That cloud scream tho.. is so damn good
Fun fact about the psp ending. In the final battle you can't actually die until the dmw runs out of characters. It freezes you on one health point until zack's memories are wiped into oblivion. Haven't tried yet on the remake. I've been grinding down the missions
Yeah, I kinda noticed how even when character portraits are erased, they're still in the DMW along with their blank counterparts until you take enough damage.
@@ealain7600 I dunno. I've seen some people be at maximum level and it took them a while to fail. I think they basically had to let themselves get hit.
2:55 AM CST I agree. It's so raw and makes want to bawl my eyes out of their sockets. Steve Burton will always have a special place in my heart, but his scream kind of distracts me everytime and interrupts the scene for me. 3:00 AM CST Update: I just rewatched the original for comparison, and Burton's scream made me wanna laugh again.
@@michaelrobosa146 He was talking about the old version. Steve Burton can't scream properly according to sources, so they took some clips from tidus' VA.
This really brought into perspective the graphic improvements made in Reunion. I haven't played crisis core in so long that I didn't even notice how big all the changes they made really were. Wish we could have kept Gomez as VA though for sure.
well considering that the original and BBS (young zack in olympus colosseum) were released 15 to 12 years ago means a lot for VAs , their voices start changing until they cannot perform a certain role anymore, like for example Megaman Volnutt on Megaman Legends.
@@4386764 Doesn't mean they can't still voice them tho. They kept the orignal JP voice cast, so why not do the same here? I know plenty of people preferred the old voices especially Zack's and Sephiroth's.
The thing is it's only the buster sword that was changed. The cutscenes weren't rerendered at a higher resolution. The shinra army still wear their pre-remake uniforms. It just makes no sense to me why neither or these changes were made if they had the ability to go back in and make changes to the CGI cutscenes. The only scenario that makes sense to me is they always had a version of these scenes with the old buster sword design all these years and are simply repurposing them for Reunion. Like as if the decision to redesign the sword's hilt in Crisis Core was made midway through development and thus they had to adjust the CGI slightly before release, making these the beta versions.
This only made realize how powerful the PS2/PSP was.. Back then these graphics were unreal compared to previous consoles of any make. Xbox as well. Still holds up to today's standards nearly... 20 years later.
I played this on the psp. I cried the entire time on ccr doing this. My fiance is the type to not show emotions, and this got him got to him. He realized what the wiping of the dmv meant and it hit him so hard
Zack will return in ff7 rebirth(remake part 2) he is alive again as cloud destroyed the whisper harbinger in remake. There whole goal is to ensure that reality and fate go as planned, cloud disrupted this, and it needed to be fixed. This destruction sent out a wave through space and time, killing all of the Shinra soldiers attacking zack, he then leaves for Midgard. The biggest question we have is Is this still the past or is it in the future where the remake currently is? The devs stated that he will return in rebirth with a new role. The remakes have now changed lore and are now set in an alternate reality world patrolling the OG Final fantasy with crisis core reunion, being the crisis core of the remakes. We also have a new remake collection for 7 coming to mobile called ever crisis, that takes everything from ff7. Ollection, I mean everything, movie, games, Japan only releases and combines them all into one game coming this coming year
@@ThomasHannah u gotta be dumb bro watch the rebirth trailer he is alive everyone knows it, hell it’s literally in the end of remake he lives and end of intergrade we see him trying to talk to aerith they wouldnt revoice him in remake for 1 end scene
I don't think the DMW breaking was Zack losing memories. He still remember Cloud and Aerith, after all. My theory was that since his Limit Break is a mimicry of other's, the fact he is losing his ability to use Limit Breaks as a whole really is him breaking down.
Buster sword is the biggest change in the comparison scenes. The golden hilt, changed with a normal grey tone replacement and the design change is basically formal.
@@gunblaster2080 They updated the Buster Sword to resemble the Remake version, so that people can play Crisis Core Reunion as a companion to the Remake Trilogy. Also, the Golden Buster Sword was always an ugly design.
Such a shame this game doesn't give a New Game+ secret ending that ties it to FF7:Remake and the next game. The Death of Zack is a must and everyone needs to see it, but I feel after making all these improvements, they should've given us 1 more surprise. It would be great to see an ending that hints at us what and where Zack will be at the start of the next game. And it would be awesome if instead of “will continue in Final Fantasy 7” we get “Zack will return in Final Fantasy Rebirth.”
Propably because it's still a pure prequel to FF 7 original. Seeing this ending will already be confusing for people who only played Remake and doesn't realise that FF7R is acutally a sequel to the franchise. "Zack's survive" timeline will play key part in part 2 and 3 especially after seeing Yuffie DLC ending so adding anyhting to Crisis Core would be pointless and even more confusing. in hindsight i think that calling it 7Remake was a mistake, because not everyone understand that it doesn't mean remake of game but remake of events by Sephiroth.
It’s just a remaster. It has nothing to do with the Remake series except them updating the characters’ looks to look more like they do in Remake, but that’s about it.
@@ayayron8221 I’m quite aware. But when you look at this remaster, you realized they didn’t just touch up on the graphic and sound by smoothing out what already existed. No, they remade models stages, new music, new character voice recording, and a whole lot more for this remaster. All I’m saying is that, if they made new summoning animation, they should’ve made a new full motion video ending that’s completely new and will make us even more excited for the next installment.
@@ayayron8221 You do realize part 1 of the Remake is still a sequel to Crisis Core. There is a reason why they remastered this- and that is to get people up to speed with the story. Most people I saw on Reddit were newcomers to the series when they played Remake and HAD no clue about Zack Fair or who he was in the remake ending. It was essential that they gave newcomers a way to understand the prequel story of FF7 going forward. Unless you emulated the game, there was no other official way of playing Crisis Core other than the PSP.
I'm just really glad that Caleb Pierce's execution during Zack's death scene has greatly improved compared to remake!! Definitely no where as close as Rick Gomez but not too bad
The only thing that's postponing me from buying this "remake" is Zack's new voice actor. He doesn't put as much heart into it as the last voice actor did.
i enjoy the original too, but this is gonna be the new va going forward into pt 2 of the remake, so unfortunately its just something you're going to have to get used to..and id say playing through reunion is the perfect way to get used to it before pt 2 sours your experience with him
See, he said the line again, and he did it way better. I still probably think the old VA was better, but just comparing the price of freedom line from FF7R vs here, he's very noticeably better here. And it makes me think that this voice actor could be really good if he had better voice direction throughout.
Nah VA sucks balls, trough the whole game, zero soul in his voice. Its really a shame, i could live with anybody having a bad VA but not zack, especially because his story will continue in Remake while they take areriths life.
Yeah, at first i hated the new VA esp with the godawful delivery in FF7R but he seemed to do better in this game in some scenes, and not so much in others. I bet he would've done a lot better with a better voice director for sure. Maybe never as good as Rick Gomez, idk, but he definitely seems capable of doing better as shown in the final scene etc. I hope we'll continue to hear improvement when the next installment of ff7 remake comes out!
Yes, to be fair to Caleb, he'd have to have followed the lip movements of the pre-existing cut scenes, which really limits you as a VA. I'm excited for Rebirth where we'll get to seem him do his own thing
I was waiting for this, I prefer the original, I like the old portraits, I never had a problem on the DMW,but the Reunion one honestly did better at portraying Zack's memories, and mostly tried everything to not forget Aerith. I'm used to the old combat but on Reunion is good too I'm still curious about the 1000 Shinra troops mission since that was mostly annoying for me and time consuming even with Quake and Megaflare lol
@Cosmic just do mission 9-5-4 for the shop for Genji helm. Infinite MP and just go mad with Ultima w/Endure. Probably the quickest as it kills them all regardless of where they are
Love Love ...LOVE the PSP . I still have the original 1000 FAT and it just feels awesome in the hands. Best handheld ever made in my opinion ....for its time. I miss the days , tons of titles and AFFORDABLE to collect.
yea the old cg models were beautiful. Zack's eyes were so unique and his face proportions were excellent. hate to say it but the remake model looks like he's a r-word.
The only part of this scene that I loved more in the original than in the remake was Zack's final gasp and the sound of the Shinra Trooper's gun going off. It was alot more visceral in the original than in the reunion. Other than that, the reunion dominated.
16:01 why did they feel they need to insert Remake opening cutscene here when other FMVs were left intact? The cuts in Aertih scene just made it less smoth.
Switching those couple shots out with Remake's opening had me out here thinking they were gonna give us another teaser like they did with the Yuffie DLC, only for it to go right back to upscaled cinematics again. They really made us sit through Genesis' stupid gift of the goddess bullshit all over again just to psyche us out at the last possible second.
I think the subtle things are what really makes me prefer the original, like how zack's bloodied state is a bit more generic and censored here, it looks like he's covered in dirt and not so much blood. The original really makes you feel like he's been getting hounded and chased down for hours and beaten, fighting for his life and fighting hard. The subtleties of his face look more expressive there too imo in terms of whats on his mind, a brief hopelessness before returning back to battle in a weakened state. Also I like how zack is kinda out of frame here in the psp version when he gets shot on the floor it really does something to se the mood like man, he's really gone gone. Also the shinra dudes look WAAY more evil in the original with that intense red lighting. Also I really just like original crisis core's buster sword more for zack, it would be interesting to explain it away as cloud modified it to reduce his grief or something.
Very funny how when reading this I still expected someone to say " nostalgia speaking" and they did. Smh. The older stuff generally has more substance since times required more intelligence back then vs now where you can just make things brighter and detailed (in the over detailed sense) and awe people (even though this remake in particular is still good)
@@Gigi-zr6hp Yeah that's exactly nostalgia "I like how zack is kinda out of frame here" like that was a 200 IQ move planned by the developers with that specific purpose in mind. He makes no sense, he likes how not beaten up and bloody Zack is in the original and then goes on to say that the original actually makes him look like he's been fighting for his life. Like bro, Zack is literally more beaten up and tired in the remaster, it's night and day with the amount of abuse you can see on him.
Okay, I'm confused. Did they upscale, modify or remake the original pre-rendered cutscenes? They all look otherwise the same, but they made the Buster Sword look like the FF7R version.
upscale and modify, the change are minimal but reunion look less blurry and they slightly refined the edge texture, like look at cloud's skin face and eye ruclips.net/video/9L7jDZ6Pe8Y/видео.html and they digitally replaced sword with the help of a digital software
From what it looks like, so I'm talking out of my ass on this one, it seems like they have a high-resolution of the pre-rendered scenes, maybe 480p, 720p, or 1080p-ish(?), then upscaled it to fit 4K and did some compositing for the Buster Sword. I doubt they have the original project files and re-rendered the entire scenes because those scenes look a bit blurry. This is just speculation, of course.
I wonder how they changed the Buster Sword's model in the movie cutscene? Did they had the original asset for the cutscene or did they went in and like layered in the new model or something?
I think they should have redid all the CGI scenes using the new in-game assets. The new in-game assets have an edge over the original CGI. In most cases.
I worked a little bit with cgi, it seem they used ff7 remake cgi asset and removed the original sword digitally, this is not that much work than people think with Digital Software and it takes a lot less time than completely redone all the cgi . This is like photoshop but the rotoscopied (photoshoped) sword follow the original path of the removed sword and the new one is above it with a tracker. With my little experience I can see the new sword is higher quality than the rest and like the previous reply it has a edge. Sorry if my explanation is not clear.
I kept getting glimpses of the hair being better shaded in the original one and wasn't sure which was the better version. Despite some things better in Reunion. The water effects are much better in the Original. Reminds me of the old downgrade from the emotion engine on the PS2 that wasn't present in the PS3. For better reference, refer to this timestamp: 12:40 or 12:45 and keep it paused. Not to rub it in, but why is it raining in the Church, if it's under a giant plate? What is it raining? So many questions with that. Where does it come from?
The reason it's raining in the church is the plates are 300m above ground level (stated in a loading screen in Remake), so it's not unreasonable that if it's raining then that rain would fall into the slums too, especially when the church would be near the outer edge of the slums (the reactors, where Cloud fell from, are around the edge of the city). The Church would have to be located right next to the border of the Sector 4/5 slums, and near the very edge of the city.
After the Zack voice cameo in Remake was criticized for being a bit rough, I feel like they paid attention to Crisis Core's ending _specifically._ I think Caleb Pierce really finds his feet and nails it.
For as much as i love happy endings... i have an odd fondness for last stand battles On a related note, i havent actually gotten around to play intergrade just yet... never quite wanted to for some reason... beating Reunion is the kick i needed to do so.
7:08 This particular part in OG CC hit so much harder cause of the camera angle, we can see Zack facing us & taking damage unable to fight back. Also, when the screen fades to black, in OG, he is shot so many more times & the sound reverberates/echoes. It made it feel more violent & more brutal. It goes without saying that Rick Gomez is amazing & this new VA Caleb pierce isn’t a patch on him. I loved seeing one of my fave characters & stories in this gen & going on this journey I adore so much again, but the voice acting really was an issue for me unfortunately. I had to play with Japanese VA cause the new VA really jarred my experience & didn’t convey/deliver the lines with the emotional depth that was needed, he can’t seem to convey mood through the story through his voice very well & so it’s just the same tone & sound all the way through, as opposed to differentiating between happy, angry, sad, etc. His final stand & even where he’s dying, the little grunts of pain Rick Gomez does, little nuances like that really add to the emotion. I would love someday if square enix released a DLC to play with the OG voice cast, I’d be all over that & buy it day one!! It was the 4 mains I felt were really off: Zack, Seph, Genesis & Angeal.
You're only mad because Sephiroth sounds older than Zack and you want Zack to have a deeper voice than Sephiroth because you don't get that Sephiroth is older
A bit peeved about how they didnt change the shinra troop models in the cg cutscenes for reunion like they did with the buster sword design. Its kinda jarring how in the cutecene, all the troops have no bracers n barely anything on them, and then in gameplay it suddenly transitions to their remake models. A small thing, but it stands out a bit
No. It explains why Cloud is so screwed up in FF7. Spoilers . . Basically due to Soldier 1st class members being infused with mako and jenova cells, they can transfer their abilities to other members of soldier - remember earlier cut scenes explaining genesis copies. Basically Cloud is an unfinished zack copy - Zack has imprinted some of his memories onto Clouds, which has overridden some of his actual memories. This wasn't on purpose of course, and likely due to the blood that was transferred onto Cloud's head during Zack's final moments
It’s been years since I played this but why do they run to Midgar? You know, the central of the Shinra that they want to runaway from? Why not anywhere else?
To tell you this zeypher that story sets way different timeline from original bc it an remake remake means to start renew not sequel dude go check on dictionary
I couldn’t fathom why they changed the design of the buster sword. Don’t get me wrong, I think the remake’s simple chunky frame fits the aesthetic just as well. But something about the OG’s Intimidating yet elegant design it’s just so striking.
Am I the only one where Cloud didn't yell at the end? I watched the ending twice but Cloud didn't scream. Did I miss it? I played the PS4 version with Japanese synchro on the PS5.
The one and only change I don't like is the camera angle at the end where Zack can barely fight anymore. The original version had a view of Midgar in the background. It's so sad because it's RIGHT THERE and it makes it hit harder just seeing how close Zack was to returning only to be gunned down on that cliff.
I agree. And I prefer the original voice for Zack. Those two things are the only changes that I don’t like in this comparison.
In ff7 remake ending zack's ending is far more impressive he literally win that fight
While the psp version detail is fairly tragic, I prefer the Reunion version for showcasing how much damage Zack dealt to the Shinra Army.
You can actually see dead troopers and even destroyed helicopters across the map, And I enjoy the result of the battlefield because it really shows how tough Zack is facing them all alone even though he’s heading to death’s door.
Bro there's exactly the same camera angle with the view of midgar look at it at minute 6:40
I also like how the original showed Zack with bullets all over his body while in reunion it's more like he covered himself with dirt
Yes, Zack, I would say, that you had become a hero. You will be missed. I also like how they changed the ending Aerith scene to be more in line with the Remake.
The ending scene was exactly the same as the original release.
It was not altered.
@@Yusei255 the part of Aerith running from the whispers and the flower was altered
He will be back in Rebirth
@@Yusei255 It is different, they meant that reunion took from the remake opening with the part before Cloud on the train
@@useless6234 She was running because she sensed Sephiroth. The reason his theme plays
This reminds me of how much can change by the pure fact of Zack being alive. The bombing run at the start of ff7 takes place like a week or two after cloud makes it to midgar.
Zack showing up at shinra would cause chaos in many ways
3 WEEKS
Lol Zack would clap most of the enemies in FF 7
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@@iwatchstuffs7933 I'm mostly worried about shinra soldiers recognizing zack, the turks, hojo, president shinra, etc.
Unless it's in a drastically different alternate timeline.
I miss Rick Gomez he did great job as Zack Fair
George Newbern did great as well Sephiroth
I dont understed why changed VA :(
I think that Caleb did a good job voicing Zack, but still Rick nailed it.
@@chiz_thy_driz he's sucks balls.
@@MiichaeI I highly disagree
Ah yes. We witness, again, the brutal murder of Zack. In full HD
Yep but it was changed at the end of ff7 remake, he will be in rebirth and important, more than he was before. The remake timeline no longer follows the original.
Welll well well zack was dead again@@jjankrom4398
@@fredoir1837 He isn't dead in Rebirth though??? He's still alive at the end of the game.
@@infamous1164 , I believe he is...in some alternate timeline. Until we get the third game, we won't know for sure what the hell is going on. The game _AND_ the story has been, quite literally, remade. 🤣
Okay, I think the scene where Zack's actively dying is good from both VAs. They're both pretty on top of all the breaths and nonverbal inflections when they move, or try to move, and Cody letting his voice drop on "living legacy" was a good tonal choice. He actually sounds like he's completely handing over his dreams and honor in his delivery. Rick Gomez has this subtext of "Please do this for me," and the Japanese VA leans into the inflection that his dreams and honor are gift worth giving. Cloud's new VA is really solid in that scene, gets across how ragged Cloud's feeling. His scream is, almost, as good as Takahiro Sakurai's. I am pleased that Zack got to keep his jawline in the higher def scenes.
Crazy how good this looks for a PSP game. Just got Reunion and can't wait to play it for the first time.
Psp games were always ahead of its time
They did a great job with redoing the final DMW spins. I was afraid that it was going to happen in the Background and you hear voiced while fighting. This is better than what I imagined.
7:34 One thing that I noticed in Reunion for both the English and the Japanese dub is that Zack doesn't have an echo in his scream. Weird that they didn't include it. Everything else was great tho. Also like that they gave the guns new sound effects and everything.
My head canon about the buster sword, it had that gold thing on it when angeal and zack were using it since they are taking care of that sword. But when cloud used it he brought wear, tear and rust on the sword then it needed to be repaired and had that those bolts placed on it.
That cloud scream tho.. is so damn good
Fun fact about the psp ending. In the final battle you can't actually die until the dmw runs out of characters. It freezes you on one health point until zack's memories are wiped into oblivion. Haven't tried yet on the remake. I've been grinding down the missions
I beat the remake a while ago and I can confirm that the game freezes at 1HP during the battle
Yeah, I kinda noticed how even when character portraits are erased, they're still in the DMW along with their blank counterparts until you take enough damage.
@@renshiro3790 Btw I think that the only way to end the fight is to let yourself go down to 1 HP.
@@MariusBoss11458only in the OG. Reunion forces a failure after a certain point
@@ealain7600 I dunno. I've seen some people be at maximum level and it took them a while to fail. I think they basically had to let themselves get hit.
I love the screaming of Cloud's new VA compared to the old one. You can really feel it
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I agree. It's so raw and makes want to bawl my eyes out of their sockets. Steve Burton will always have a special place in my heart, but his scream kind of distracts me everytime and interrupts the scene for me.
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Update: I just rewatched the original for comparison, and Burton's scream made me wanna laugh again.
@@jamgrams3244 if you hear it closely, the scream is actually voice by tidus's eng va. It really similar
@@simplered9661 you saying they got Tidus VA only to do this scream? Damn, that's some dedication!
@@simplered9661 wait, what? it's not Cody Christian (Cloud's Remake VA) behind the screaming voice???
@@michaelrobosa146 He was talking about the old version. Steve Burton can't scream properly according to sources, so they took some clips from tidus' VA.
Can we all just agree to think during the psp era the graphics to still good and still give sure a emotional impact.
I still cried after finishing this on my playthrough. The only change I didn't get was the jenova scene.
This really brought into perspective the graphic improvements made in Reunion. I haven't played crisis core in so long that I didn't even notice how big all the changes they made really were. Wish we could have kept Gomez as VA though for sure.
I played the 1 week before. The improvement in graphics was phenomenal
well considering that the original and BBS (young zack in olympus colosseum) were released 15 to 12 years ago means a lot for VAs , their voices start changing until they cannot perform a certain role anymore, like for example Megaman Volnutt on Megaman Legends.
@@4386764 Doesn't mean they can't still voice them tho. They kept the orignal JP voice cast, so why not do the same here? I know plenty of people preferred the old voices especially Zack's and Sephiroth's.
@@ismaelsoliman WTF , it s exactly the same thing . U don t make the diiference about cinematic between ps5 and PSP . Wtf
Awesome side-by-side. I was curious and lo and behold, the algorithm sent me here, love to see how much it's improved!
I think the most amazing thing is that they actually re-rendered all the cutscenes to have the classic Buster Sword look.
But it looks horrible, the one in crisis core looks like a real trophy.
holy shit, you're right...how did they even do that?
The thing is it's only the buster sword that was changed. The cutscenes weren't rerendered at a higher resolution. The shinra army still wear their pre-remake uniforms. It just makes no sense to me why neither or these changes were made if they had the ability to go back in and make changes to the CGI cutscenes.
The only scenario that makes sense to me is they always had a version of these scenes with the old buster sword design all these years and are simply repurposing them for Reunion. Like as if the decision to redesign the sword's hilt in Crisis Core was made midway through development and thus they had to adjust the CGI slightly before release, making these the beta versions.
@@freshnesbro3792 I like the look of the classic buster sword. Makes it look like the beefy cleaver that it is; not some pretty and dainty sword.
Love that the Reunion fixed the DMW scene and gave Angeal more time and impact than the original. It's just appropriate after all, he shaped Zack
This only made realize how powerful the PS2/PSP was.. Back then these graphics were unreal compared to previous consoles of any make. Xbox as well. Still holds up to today's standards nearly... 20 years later.
I played this on the psp. I cried the entire time on ccr doing this. My fiance is the type to not show emotions, and this got him got to him. He realized what the wiping of the dmv meant and it hit him so hard
Zack will return in ff7 rebirth(remake part 2) he is alive again as cloud destroyed the whisper harbinger in remake. There whole goal is to ensure that reality and fate go as planned, cloud disrupted this, and it needed to be fixed. This destruction sent out a wave through space and time, killing all of the Shinra soldiers attacking zack, he then leaves for Midgard. The biggest question we have is
Is this still the past or is it in the future where the remake currently is?
The devs stated that he will return in rebirth with a new role. The remakes have now changed lore and are now set in an alternate reality world patrolling the OG Final fantasy with crisis core reunion, being the crisis core of the remakes.
We also have a new remake collection for 7 coming to mobile called ever crisis, that takes everything from ff7. Ollection, I mean everything, movie, games, Japan only releases and combines them all into one game coming this coming year
@JJ Ankrom I'm very excited for Ever Crisis and I'm so ready for pt 2.
@@jjankrom4398 lies they haven’t confirmed his return, provide a reputable link
@@ThomasHannah u gotta be dumb bro watch the rebirth trailer he is alive everyone knows it, hell it’s literally in the end of remake he lives and end of intergrade we see him trying to talk to aerith they wouldnt revoice him in remake for 1 end scene
I don't think the DMW breaking was Zack losing memories. He still remember Cloud and Aerith, after all.
My theory was that since his Limit Break is a mimicry of other's, the fact he is losing his ability to use Limit Breaks as a whole really is him breaking down.
Buster sword is the biggest change in the comparison scenes. The golden hilt, changed with a normal grey tone replacement and the design change is basically formal.
Why change the Buster sword ?
@@gunblaster2080 it looks better that way with an actual hilt
@@gunblaster2080 They updated the Buster Sword to resemble the Remake version, so that people can play Crisis Core Reunion as a companion to the Remake Trilogy. Also, the Golden Buster Sword was always an ugly design.
Such a shame this game doesn't give a New Game+ secret ending that ties it to FF7:Remake and the next game. The Death of Zack is a must and everyone needs to see it, but I feel after making all these improvements, they should've given us 1 more surprise. It would be great to see an ending that hints at us what and where Zack will be at the start of the next game. And it would be awesome if instead of “will continue in Final Fantasy 7” we get “Zack will return in Final Fantasy Rebirth.”
Propably because it's still a pure prequel to FF 7 original. Seeing this ending will already be confusing for people who only played Remake and doesn't realise that FF7R is acutally a sequel to the franchise. "Zack's survive" timeline will play key part in part 2 and 3 especially after seeing Yuffie DLC ending so adding anyhting to Crisis Core would be pointless and even more confusing. in hindsight i think that calling it 7Remake was a mistake, because not everyone understand that it doesn't mean remake of game but remake of events by Sephiroth.
It’s just a remaster. It has nothing to do with the Remake series except them updating the characters’ looks to look more like they do in Remake, but that’s about it.
@@ayayron8221 I’m quite aware. But when you look at this remaster, you realized they didn’t just touch up on the graphic and sound by smoothing out what already existed. No, they remade models stages, new music, new character voice recording, and a whole lot more for this remaster. All I’m saying is that, if they made new summoning animation, they should’ve made a new full motion video ending that’s completely new and will make us even more excited for the next installment.
Just wait for the DLC 🤫🤫🤫😉😉😉
@@ayayron8221 You do realize part 1 of the Remake is still a sequel to Crisis Core. There is a reason why they remastered this- and that is to get people up to speed with the story.
Most people I saw on Reddit were newcomers to the series when they played Remake and HAD no clue about Zack Fair or who he was in the remake ending.
It was essential that they gave newcomers a way to understand the prequel story of FF7 going forward.
Unless you emulated the game, there was no other official way of playing Crisis Core other than the PSP.
I'm just really glad that Caleb Pierce's execution during Zack's death scene has greatly improved compared to remake!! Definitely no where as close as Rick Gomez but not too bad
The only thing that's postponing me from buying this "remake" is Zack's new voice actor. He doesn't put as much heart into it as the last voice actor did.
i enjoy the original too, but this is gonna be the new va going forward into pt 2 of the remake, so unfortunately its just something you're going to have to get used to..and id say playing through reunion is the perfect way to get used to it before pt 2 sours your experience with him
You'll get used to it.
Same with Sephiroth
@@brucewaynenotbatman
Some people just picky like that.
@@Rihcterwilker NOPE
Damn the original looks freaking amazing still
See, he said the line again, and he did it way better. I still probably think the old VA was better, but just comparing the price of freedom line from FF7R vs here, he's very noticeably better here. And it makes me think that this voice actor could be really good if he had better voice direction throughout.
Nah VA sucks balls, trough the whole game, zero soul in his voice. Its really a shame, i could live with anybody having a bad VA but not zack, especially because his story will continue in Remake while they take areriths life.
Yeah, at first i hated the new VA esp with the godawful delivery in FF7R but he seemed to do better in this game in some scenes, and not so much in others. I bet he would've done a lot better with a better voice director for sure. Maybe never as good as Rick Gomez, idk, but he definitely seems capable of doing better as shown in the final scene etc.
I hope we'll continue to hear improvement when the next installment of ff7 remake comes out!
Yes, to be fair to Caleb, he'd have to have followed the lip movements of the pre-existing cut scenes, which really limits you as a VA. I'm excited for Rebirth where we'll get to seem him do his own thing
I was waiting for this, I prefer the original, I like the old portraits, I never had a problem on the DMW,but the Reunion one honestly did better at portraying Zack's memories, and mostly tried everything to not forget Aerith.
I'm used to the old combat but on Reunion is good too I'm still curious about the 1000 Shinra troops mission since that was mostly annoying for me and time consuming even with Quake and Megaflare lol
I did it yesterday, and even with wiping skills like Aerial Drain and Hell Thundaga the 1000 trooper fight took me about an hour.
@Caedo Genesis I've just done the 1000 troop fight. With infinite MP and Ultima it took about 30-40 minutes. Flare, Death Jump and Tri-Thundaga too
@Cosmic just do mission 9-5-4 for the shop for Genji helm. Infinite MP and just go mad with Ultima w/Endure. Probably the quickest as it kills them all regardless of where they are
If you have the item that adds death to attacks and use the strong move, it doesn’t take too long either. Just gotta stand in the middle
I don't believe i did cry in a comparison video 😭
Love Love ...LOVE the PSP .
I still have the original 1000 FAT and it just feels awesome in the hands. Best handheld ever made in my opinion ....for its time. I miss the days , tons of titles and AFFORDABLE to collect.
5:22 It's funny seeing one of the soldiers use a Hi-Potion just as the player used an Elixir. It looked like that soldier was helping him XD
Achei genial terem pego cenas do Remake, mas achei coerente terem fechado com o Cloud do outro Crisis Core mesmo.
Reno looks so much better in these cutscenes, than in FFVII Remake!
yea the old cg models were beautiful. Zack's eyes were so unique and his face proportions were excellent. hate to say it but the remake model looks like he's a r-word.
The only part of this scene that I loved more in the original than in the remake was Zack's final gasp and the sound of the Shinra Trooper's gun going off. It was alot more visceral in the original than in the reunion. Other than that, the reunion dominated.
I haven't played this game but I'm crying
he died, Aerith being all that he has... in his mind...
This still hits me hard
same, i thought i'd be fine given that i've seen the psp ver's ending many times, but at the end of reunion i cried so much lmao
this hits harder some how knowing how FF7R ends
probabbly because in the ff7r the last healing wave actually procs and zack is restored to full health , AP and MP
16:01 why did they feel they need to insert Remake opening cutscene here when other FMVs were left intact? The cuts in Aertih scene just made it less smoth.
I hope modders community can bring back the old cinematic movie into the remastered version
esp when they used the old cloud scene right after, I am confusion
I mean... Folks have been saying this for a while now but the trilogy are sequels to OG7 lol
Maybe to signify that Crisis Core Reunion is now canon to both FF7 OG and FF7 REMAKE.
Because Midgar didn't look as good back then compared to now
0:16 cloud:We are friends of course But take the other person's wife, then that's another thing
Why’s this so funny help 😭
You can actually watch this video in 3d by crossing your eyes and lining up the scenes that are similar lol
Why did you give me that idea, now my eyes are irritated 😢
I played every final fantasy up to ten in my teenage years. This ending though, I cried for the first time from this ending.
Haven't played the psp CC in yeaaaars and finished Reunion a few days ago. This is actually mad how different the game looks now
You can actually see the weather changing ;-;
I saw that too. Also it becoming Night time basically.
Poor Zack man
Not changing Zack's face in the CGI cutscenes was straight up lazy.
sad to witness the death of Zack again
His voice makes it hard to love him in the new game! I just can’t get over how bad that voice actor is for zack! The old one was perfection
So was Sephiroth's
Play in japan dub and you won't regret
Crisis core cloud: i wont forget
Also cloud from rebirth: who is zack?
It's crazy how good the og crisis core looked
The way I remembered it was on the right side back when I played it on my PSP
It looks pretty good. Playing it now.
I was worried "why" wouldn't be in the last scene for legal reasons. Now that I know it is ill buy it
Switching those couple shots out with Remake's opening had me out here thinking they were gonna give us another teaser like they did with the Yuffie DLC, only for it to go right back to upscaled cinematics again.
They really made us sit through Genesis' stupid gift of the goddess bullshit all over again just to psyche us out at the last possible second.
the original had that final modulating phase and the wy it was made kinda felt as if its zacks mind fading
Zack always taking care cloud dude is a beast
I can't stop crying
😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥😥
I think the subtle things are what really makes me prefer the original, like how zack's bloodied state is a bit more
generic and censored here, it looks like he's covered in dirt and not so much blood. The original really makes you feel like
he's been getting hounded and chased down for hours and beaten, fighting for his life and fighting hard. The subtleties of his face look
more expressive there too imo in terms of whats on his mind, a brief hopelessness before returning back to battle in a weakened state.
Also I like how zack is kinda out of frame here in the psp version when he gets shot on the floor it really does something to se the mood
like man, he's really gone gone. Also the shinra dudes look WAAY more evil in the original with that intense red lighting. Also I really just like
original crisis core's buster sword more for zack, it would be interesting to explain it away as cloud modified it to reduce his grief or something.
that's nostalgia speaking
@@Gigi-zr6hp nope, the voice acting is legitimately bad for some characters in the remake.
Very funny how when reading this I still expected someone to say " nostalgia speaking" and they did. Smh. The older stuff generally has more substance since times required more intelligence back then vs now where you can just make things brighter and detailed (in the over detailed sense) and awe people (even though this remake in particular is still good)
@@Gigi-zr6hp Yeah that's exactly nostalgia "I like how zack is kinda out of frame here" like that was a 200 IQ move planned by the developers with that specific purpose in mind. He makes no sense, he likes how not beaten up and bloody Zack is in the original and then goes on to say that the original actually makes him look like he's been fighting for his life. Like bro, Zack is literally more beaten up and tired in the remaster, it's night and day with the amount of abuse you can see on him.
@@ChadHellgado i can't tell if you're a troll or not because if you're referencing my comment you literally referenced half of what I said wrong Lol
They had to remake the CGI cutscenes to change the sword, but they didn't take the time to change Zack's face so it's more accurate to his 3D model...
Okay, I'm confused. Did they upscale, modify or remake the original pre-rendered cutscenes? They all look otherwise the same, but they made the Buster Sword look like the FF7R version.
upscale and modify, the change are minimal but reunion look less blurry and they slightly refined the edge texture, like look at cloud's skin face and eye ruclips.net/video/9L7jDZ6Pe8Y/видео.html and they digitally replaced sword with the help of a digital software
From what it looks like, so I'm talking out of my ass on this one, it seems like they have a high-resolution of the pre-rendered scenes, maybe 480p, 720p, or 1080p-ish(?), then upscaled it to fit 4K and did some compositing for the Buster Sword. I doubt they have the original project files and re-rendered the entire scenes because those scenes look a bit blurry. This is just speculation, of course.
"Will we meet again"
"Yes, in Heaven"
Honestly, new guy's delivery of the whole speech before he fights the entire Shinra army is better here than it was in FF7Remake.
Now we need a mod that replaces Remake's dialogue with this game's
@@MrPine656 Facts
Theres so much pain in zacks eyes in the reunion version right before he's battling 3 gun men..
I wonder how they changed the Buster Sword's model in the movie cutscene? Did they had the original asset for the cutscene or did they went in and like layered in the new model or something?
I think they should have redid all the CGI scenes using the new in-game assets. The new in-game assets have an edge over the original CGI. In most cases.
I worked a little bit with cgi, it seem they used ff7 remake cgi asset and removed the original sword digitally, this is not that much work than people think with Digital Software and it takes a lot less time than completely redone all the cgi . This is like photoshop but the rotoscopied (photoshoped) sword follow the original path of the removed sword and the new one is above it with a tracker. With my little experience I can see the new sword is higher quality than the rest and like the previous reply it has a edge. Sorry if my explanation is not clear.
@@Jfray252 so basically they removed the sword's model and replaced it with the new one instead of layering the model.
@@notgeorgesigua I'm impressed by how well it fits into the FMV's
Só morreu porque não tinha o poder do protagonismo que nem o Cloud. O cara é muito forte isso não dar pra negar.
Nah. He died cuz he gave away his protagonist status to Cloud.
The OG Crisis sword is the best looking Bussin Sword
I kept getting glimpses of the hair being better shaded in the original one and wasn't sure which was the better version. Despite some things better in Reunion. The water effects are much better in the Original. Reminds me of the old downgrade from the emotion engine on the PS2 that wasn't present in the PS3. For better reference, refer to this timestamp: 12:40 or 12:45 and keep it paused.
Not to rub it in, but why is it raining in the Church, if it's under a giant plate? What is it raining? So many questions with that. Where does it come from?
Wow amazing you really notice the details.
The reason it's raining in the church is the plates are 300m above ground level (stated in a loading screen in Remake), so it's not unreasonable that if it's raining then that rain would fall into the slums too, especially when the church would be near the outer edge of the slums (the reactors, where Cloud fell from, are around the edge of the city). The Church would have to be located right next to the border of the Sector 4/5 slums, and near the very edge of the city.
The church is under the gap between the plates.
Ah yes, now I can experience the trauma in high definition
i like how in the cutscenes the only difference is is Zack's buster sword how it's redesign
god he so bad, damn Caleb I was hoping you'll redeem yourself, so parts he's okay-ish, but he falls hard like Genesis tripping Zack.
So does Tyler as Sephiroth
@@Killer_Kris7 This is the 75th time i've seen one of your comments, and like always - it's the same thing
After the Zack voice cameo in Remake was criticized for being a bit rough, I feel like they paid attention to Crisis Core's ending _specifically._ I think Caleb Pierce really finds his feet and nails it.
17:00 La única vez que vimos a Cloud Strife realizar la "embrace your dreams" pose 😓
O melhor de todos os FF.
One thing I’ve noticed is the design of the buster sword is slightly different. The original had some gold while in the new one it doesn’t
For as much as i love happy endings... i have an odd fondness for last stand battles
On a related note, i havent actually gotten around to play intergrade just yet... never quite wanted to for some reason... beating Reunion is the kick i needed to do so.
2:55 I always wondered why did they change the guard on the Buster Sword?
I wish they would’ve slightly changed the ending to tease about the Re:Make
I just realized that in the final scene, in the reunion version, Aerith knows...
7:08 This particular part in OG CC hit so much harder cause of the camera angle, we can see Zack facing us & taking damage unable to fight back. Also, when the screen fades to black, in OG, he is shot so many more times & the sound reverberates/echoes. It made it feel more violent & more brutal. It goes without saying that Rick Gomez is amazing & this new VA Caleb pierce isn’t a patch on him. I loved seeing one of my fave characters & stories in this gen & going on this journey I adore so much again, but the voice acting really was an issue for me unfortunately. I had to play with Japanese VA cause the new VA really jarred my experience & didn’t convey/deliver the lines with the emotional depth that was needed, he can’t seem to convey mood through the story through his voice very well & so it’s just the same tone & sound all the way through, as opposed to differentiating between happy, angry, sad, etc. His final stand & even where he’s dying, the little grunts of pain Rick Gomez does, little nuances like that really add to the emotion. I would love someday if square enix released a DLC to play with the OG voice cast, I’d be all over that & buy it day one!! It was the 4 mains I felt were really off: Zack, Seph, Genesis & Angeal.
it's not the va it's the direction
This new voice actor for Zack ruined it for me. Thank god for the mod that came out to put Rick's voice back in as Zack.
You're only mad because Sephiroth sounds older than Zack and you want Zack to have a deeper voice than Sephiroth because you don't get that Sephiroth is older
A bit peeved about how they didnt change the shinra troop models in the cg cutscenes for reunion like they did with the buster sword design.
Its kinda jarring how in the cutecene, all the troops have no bracers n barely anything on them, and then in gameplay it suddenly transitions to their remake models.
A small thing, but it stands out a bit
So... Is cloud supposed to slip on a rock and fall unconscious reforgetting everything he just remembered with Zach as he's limping to midgar??
No. It explains why Cloud is so screwed up in FF7.
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Basically due to Soldier 1st class members being infused with mako and jenova cells, they can transfer their abilities to other members of soldier - remember earlier cut scenes explaining genesis copies. Basically Cloud is an unfinished zack copy - Zack has imprinted some of his memories onto Clouds, which has overridden some of his actual memories. This wasn't on purpose of course, and likely due to the blood that was transferred onto Cloud's head during Zack's final moments
If you want to change field of work or to not be the first slot in inventory to
I’m not crying, I’m not crying
They even changed the hilt of the updated Buster sword
Thank god I played this with Japanese voices, Zack, Sephiroth and Reno's voices give me whiplash
0:19 Can't believe they changed the sky :(
It’s been years since I played this but why do they run to Midgar? You know, the central of the Shinra that they want to runaway from? Why not anywhere else?
Why the cutting the soundtrack? There’s no copyrights for that?? The psp version all had the ending soundtrack in videos just no sense to be honest
Hi Seph1roth1986. The soundtrack is copyrighted, I would have liked to include it :(
How did the turks not hear about this giant fight and jump in to make a fake fight and capture Zack
The remake got the sword design right, this time.
prefer Japanese "i am the proof that you existed"
then "i am your living legacy"
I mean they have same meaning right? I like both.
@@scribble71891 not same
espeacially in sub Zack said "when you meet Aris i'm counting on you"
english "say hi to Aris for me"
@@obitoxshinobi8978 yeah I like the Japanese line for that better.
@@obitoxshinobi8978 "I'm counting on you" the fuck does he mean there? Does he WANT to smash his girlfriend!?
"Will I see you again?" 😭😭😭
To be continued in Final Fantasy 7. Not the remake. Remake is a title. It's a sequel after Dirge of Cerberus and yet it goes back to Cloud's story.
Wrong it different story of ff7 In Different path it not the same as original one
To tell you this zeypher that story sets way different timeline from original bc it an remake remake means to start renew not sequel dude go check on dictionary
11:37 what the hell I never noticed they changed the buster sword
I couldn’t fathom why they changed the design of the buster sword.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the remake’s simple chunky frame fits the aesthetic just as well.
But something about the OG’s Intimidating yet elegant design it’s just so striking.
cool comparison but I can't really see because my tears are blocking my view.
Interesting how it didn’t say to be continued in “final fantasy vii remake”
the old one is bad ass, the soldier back there had shooting
Am I the only one where Cloud didn't yell at the end? I watched the ending twice but Cloud didn't scream. Did I miss it? I played the PS4 version with Japanese synchro on the PS5.
Boy oh boy….
These turks are completely dripless