To sum it all up, Ideon gets pushed beyond it's limit and sorts of overload. Destroying the entire universe. The scene at the end is the birth of Messiah.
"In order to eliminate the hatred between us failed species, the Ide...!" "Forces us to fight each other! So that's it!" Who the hell made Ide more powerful than COURAGE- oh wait.
Kamille: What is this!? Amuro: The activation of Ide... Ryoma: Getter! We're we mistaken? Were we failures of this universe, to fight for our survival? Bes: Cosmo, we were probably too late to be able to do anything... Sheryl: Everyone, it's at the Ide has planned, it has been invoked! Everyone, everyone, everyone should just be destroyed!!!!
@AstralKnighto This the Ending taken from the series "Space Runaway Ideon" Basically, everyone dies cause The Ideon ( self aware super robot) self destructs killing both the enemy and it's user alike in the series. The Baby at the end is called "Messiah" and he leads all the souls from both sides to a new start..Great show!! this ending is appropriate..but, it's also considered a bad ending and you should avoid it. ^_^
this is the 'bad ending' which you get if you choose the first option after scenario 56 (not the one Bright asks, the one before). the proper ending of the game has the Ideon gang surviving and turning their attention to the STMC and then Keisar Ephes himself.
Back then, the Ideon was pretty much the OP of all mechas..but at this generation the title neither now goes to the Getter Emperor, Demonsbane or The Gurren Lagann.
Every time they milk Eva some more, I just think back to Ideon and the few games where the whole "If you f with it, the entire universe is going to be destroyed..." result.
@Elyseon Oh man!! You are SO right to compare to Evangelion. This is taken directly from Space Runaway Ideon. The GOd Machine is self aware and super strong and it gets so mad at both sides of the conflict, that well, you get the ending you just got. Great stuff!!
RIP to my favorite series before Ideon explodes Gundam Series Super Robot Wars OG (SRX Team and others) Neon Genesis Evangelion RIP to the others GaoGaiGar Space Runaway Ideon (The destroyer) Shin Getter Robo Virtual-On and more…
A simple ending EVERYONE DIES. Ouch. I remember that blasted stage, I was like: WTF!? its over already!? good thing i saved on 2 files about 4 stages b4 that stage.
i read somewhere about this game, that there are multiple endings for the ideon ending, one of which does not destroy the entire universe. from what i read, this is the bad ideon ending (not for the ideon series, just for super robot wars, not for the anime). last words if this happens: i hate this job, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE END, EXCLMATION POINT!
lol, Ideon's explosion ended the whole universe..didn't believe it after I read about it on wikipedia but after seeing that? I think we should all be grateful that double-edged mech isn't in any more SRW games. It'd destroy us all. Though I still think GaoGaiGar would stand a chance against Ideon..if it makes contact using Goldion Hammer bfore Ideon explodes takes us all with it! 0:01-0:54 That sounds like "A Messenger From the Void", Ingram's theme from OG1! But remixed! I want that song!
DullFace101 I think that elder god Demonbane, Genesic GaoGaiGar with the Goldion Crusher, Mazinger ZERO, Cybuster Possession, and a full-power Awakened Evangelion Unit 01 could stop Ideon from bringing the end. They are god-tier mechs, pretty much. Don’t forget Super Heaven-Piercing Gurren Lagann either.
Woah, woah, woah the 'Idiot' just killed everyone in Super Robot Wars........DAMN! At least with Evangelion everyone would have turned into liquid with the possibility of being reborn...didn't Guy, Ryoma, Shinji, Kamille, Koji, Amuro or someone planned to kill Cosmo before he destroyed the universe, boy the Invaders from Shin Getter robo must have loved this ending. :D
Ideon might as well have done that though. Humanity's dead. The Buff Clan's dead... And if we go by that one-shot manga, the Ideon Universe was remade into the UC Gundam Universe... with Judau actually being Cosmo's reincarnation.
Ideon might not have destroyed the universe in the anime, but it had the potential to do so. Ideon was a mech that contained the Ide (infinite energy.) It's perfectly plausible that when unleashed, Ideon could have destroyed the universe. And despite the homage to the anime with this ending, the Super Robot Wars Alpha universe could have ended in this ending.
@poggg Ah I see. Still if it did exsist, I doubt it was canon, at least not in Gundam's case. But as you said it could just have been a rumour. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
@David315842 well actually the universe got reborn in to the universe of gundam in the universal century and judau is the reincarnation of cosmo apparently
@haineko1101 Demonbane also says "I wish people actually read the story with my strongest form. Or played the original game. Or that my anime wasn't god-awful, despite the cool intro and Lovecraft references."
@sparkingsupersonic I heavily doubt that's true as Gundam and Ideon are two seperate entities, both are by (at the time depressed) Yoshiyuki Tomino, but I think the guy had enough sense to keep the two entities apart and rightfully so as Idiot was a bit of a waste of time, IMO.
Hahahahaha! Ideon Sword could split a planet in seconds, Ideon Gun could hit inside sub-space while in normal-space, Ideon's death itself ended the universe. The Evas can't even go to space, how could it go up against the mighty Ideon?
Ok i've just recently finished watching ideon and i understand the circumstance now. but then i have a new question when you don't get this bad ending how does the conflict with the buff clan conclude?
those are the 2 choices that you get on the 2nd playthrough i'm well aware, but what i'm asking is what happens you don't get the bad ending, like how is the conflict with the buff clan resolved when ideon does not invoke, or to put it simply what happens when you choose run you know besides the most obvious answer.
in the good ending, the surviving buff clans didn't go all the way out to die together with admiral Doba, instead they surrendered and cheer on you for the final battle against Keisar Ephes. After you win, if I remember correctly, the buff clans decide to join together with the Megaroad project (with the Macross folks) to find a new habitable planet somewhere in the galaxy, in which Cosmo and the Solo ship crews also join.
*sigh* The end of Eva just destoryed the entire humankind or as Gendou likes to call it combining all human conciousness into one. BTW, Ideon never helped inspire Eva.
Well the events of this part of the game consist whit the ones of be invoked movie.... so xD everithing on that solar system was fucking blown away..... whit every one of the pilots.... so.... bye bye the never know kaiser ephes
And you know what happens next? Kira didn't die -Fuck Dinosaurs- Conclusion Only Tomino and All the Ideon Cast Died Because FUCKING JESUS YAMATO BROUGHT EVERYONE WITH HIM SO THEY ALL LIVE TO SEE TOMMOROW
tch, I'm no Evafag as you call anbd I know that ideon helped inspire Evangelion. Oh and Eva 01 would eat ideon. Also, It is a catyluyt for an apocaliptic event that coul;d probably be seen from the whole universe.
@HeirOfSparda That would be fine except they were not reborn! For all we know if they came back as totally different lifeforms! The bottom line is Tomino wanted them all dead and never wanted them to come back! They even brutally killed children, yes I know it was trying to look realistic, but deep down Tomino was depressed and that's why he did it. Therefore to me Ideon (or Idiot as I call it) was the worst robot anime I can think of. It should be sent to the scrapheap by the SDF-1 Macross!
i mean there's been dumber crap... iirc in one of the super robot wars F games, it's stated that shin getter would destroy the entire universe just by powering up to its full power, and mazinkaiser's god mode was stated to be equal to that. like... the hell's the point in giving a machine that much power if it won't have any use for it?
@@altreon3608 Ideon is a monster and a villain. In fact, I think it may well be a shitty self-insert for Tomino. It deserves to be destroyed just like Mazinger ZERO.
To sum it all up, Ideon gets pushed beyond it's limit and sorts of overload. Destroying the entire universe. The scene at the end is the birth of Messiah.
Keisar Ephes: Arrives
Ide: YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE, FOO!
"In order to eliminate the hatred between us failed species, the Ide...!"
"Forces us to fight each other! So that's it!"
Who the hell made Ide more powerful than COURAGE- oh wait.
Yes it did. Hideki Anno said so himself. Infact, Ideon helped influence Mobile suit Zeta gundam as well as it is similarly depressing in the ending.
Sadly, Keisar Ephes was unharmed by the Ide, allowing him to corrupt the Messiah, ensuring total control over humanity for all eternity.
I wonder if there was humanity left to control
Kamille: What is this!?
Amuro: The activation of Ide...
Ryoma: Getter! We're we mistaken? Were we failures of this universe, to fight for our survival?
Bes: Cosmo, we were probably too late to be able to do anything...
Sheryl: Everyone, it's at the Ide has planned, it has been invoked! Everyone, everyone, everyone should just be destroyed!!!!
What Kaiser said before Kamile ?
he said,"Everything is coming to the end"
now I want to see Shin Getter Robo, Mazinkaiser, Turn X, Turn A Gundam and Ideon destroy everything
Ladies and gentleman...if you see this ending, YOU DUN GOOFED.
Also, 703,000 damage...OW.
@AstralKnighto This the Ending taken from the series "Space Runaway Ideon" Basically, everyone dies cause The Ideon ( self aware super robot) self destructs killing both the enemy and it's user alike in the series. The Baby at the end is called "Messiah" and he leads all the souls from both sides to a new start..Great show!! this ending is appropriate..but, it's also considered a bad ending and you should avoid it. ^_^
How could the courage of Gaogaigar or the heart of Fire Bomber fail to stop this?
これ、1回クリアして、2回目で選択しないと出来ないというEDだから。
Ideon is the destroyer of all plot armor
this is the 'bad ending' which you get if you choose the first option after scenario 56 (not the one Bright asks, the one before).
the proper ending of the game has the Ideon gang surviving and turning their attention to the STMC and then Keisar Ephes himself.
You get this ending by finishing the game at stage 56 (as opposed to stage 60). So, they never knew who was Keisar Ephes.
Back then, the Ideon was pretty much the OP of all mechas..but at this generation the title neither now goes to the Getter Emperor, Demonsbane or The Gurren Lagann.
the cast speaks with such hopelessnes during the fight...
I can't believe's Kira's plot armor didn't work!
Every time they milk Eva some more, I just think back to Ideon and the few games where the whole "If you f with it, the entire universe is going to be destroyed..." result.
"...Well, shit. Guess we fucked up this time, guys."
@Elyseon Oh man!! You are SO right to compare to Evangelion. This is taken directly from Space Runaway Ideon. The GOd Machine is self aware and super strong and it gets so mad at both sides of the conflict, that well, you get the ending you just got. Great stuff!!
@Armetius The ultimate despair that none of them could have prepared for.
a new start called Mobile Suit Gundam
RIP to my favorite series before Ideon explodes
Gundam Series
Super Robot Wars OG (SRX Team and others)
Neon Genesis Evangelion
RIP to the others
GaoGaiGar
Space Runaway Ideon (The destroyer)
Shin Getter Robo
Virtual-On
and more…
あのバサラでも止められない男ドバ、業が深すぎる
A simple ending EVERYONE DIES. Ouch.
I remember that blasted stage, I was like: WTF!? its over already!? good thing i saved on 2 files about 4 stages b4 that stage.
This is an alternative path you take to the bad ending.
You know shit is about to get real when a GM fires a TORNADO in SPACE that destroys universeS while there is no AIR.
i read somewhere about this game, that there are multiple endings for the ideon ending, one of which does not destroy the entire universe. from what i read, this is the bad ideon ending (not for the ideon series, just for super robot wars, not for the anime). last words if this happens: i hate this job, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE END, EXCLMATION POINT!
lets sing happy birthday to the baby
At least we don't get to see the naked souls of everyone. XD
lol, Ideon's explosion ended the whole universe..didn't believe it after I read about it on wikipedia but after seeing that? I think we should all be grateful that double-edged mech isn't in any more SRW games. It'd destroy us all. Though I still think GaoGaiGar would stand a chance against Ideon..if it makes contact using Goldion Hammer bfore Ideon explodes takes us all with it!
0:01-0:54 That sounds like "A Messenger From the Void", Ingram's theme from OG1! But remixed! I want that song!
DullFace101 I think that elder god Demonbane, Genesic GaoGaiGar with the Goldion Crusher, Mazinger ZERO, Cybuster Possession, and a full-power Awakened Evangelion Unit 01 could stop Ideon from bringing the end. They are god-tier mechs, pretty much. Don’t forget Super Heaven-Piercing Gurren Lagann either.
Woah, woah, woah the 'Idiot' just killed everyone in Super Robot Wars........DAMN! At least with Evangelion everyone would have turned into liquid with the possibility of being reborn...didn't Guy, Ryoma, Shinji, Kamille, Koji, Amuro or someone planned to kill Cosmo before he destroyed the universe, boy the Invaders from Shin Getter robo must have loved this ending. :D
Oh, so that explains Keisar Ephes' sudden appearance near the end.
Ideon might as well have done that though. Humanity's dead. The Buff Clan's dead...
And if we go by that one-shot manga, the Ideon Universe was remade into the UC Gundam Universe... with Judau actually being Cosmo's reincarnation.
Good news, though. Judau was able to DESTROY Ideon WITHOUT WIPING OUT ALL LIFE!!!!
Ideon might not have destroyed the universe in the anime, but it had the potential to do so. Ideon was a mech that contained the Ide (infinite energy.) It's perfectly plausible that when unleashed, Ideon could have destroyed the universe. And despite the homage to the anime with this ending, the Super Robot Wars Alpha universe could have ended in this ending.
Does anyone know what are Guy and Shinji saying before Ideon attacks. Does Guy lose courage at this point?
Both Shinji and Gai along with other ally lose their courage due to the enemy outnumbering them
I dunno, but wasn't this the message: That all conflict only ends upon death?
Sometimes the living will envy the dead. See: Baldios ending.
i can never get enough videos of Ideon's overpoweredness ^^ (is that a word?)
If you watched the anime, it is pretty obvious what happened.
Nevermind about what I said, it was just "The Gun of Dis".
We'll just wait for the time the Black Hole Cluster and the Ain Soph Aur clashed together.
@poggg Ah I see. Still if it did exsist, I doubt it was canon, at least not in Gundam's case. But as you said it could just have been a rumour. Thanks for clearing that up. :)
epic troll damage. 703000 damage had the exact amount of damage to kill that ship 2x exactly. 351500 x 2 = 703000 lololol
Ideon the craziest robot ever.
No, I said Hideki Anno was INSPired by Yoshiyuki Tomino.
@David315842
well actually the universe got reborn in to the universe of gundam in the universal century and judau is the reincarnation of cosmo apparently
@Armetius
because that was the freaking apocalypse thats why
Why do you think this is called a bad ending? Bad endings in srw games usually aren't 'canon' in srw series like the alpha series.
@haineko1101 Demonbane also says "I wish people actually read the story with my strongest form. Or played the original game. Or that my anime wasn't god-awful, despite the cool intro and Lovecraft references."
@TheCiompolino Demonbane says "hi." And also "you're wrong."
@godzilla4189
what do you mean you dont see kids getting killed and you dont see the zeta gundam exploding and bringing the apocalypse
It is literally like that. Not edited, like the "Alternate Ending" to Contra: Shattered Soldier. 'cept this is depressing.
Ideon eats eva's for breakfast.
@sparkingsupersonic I heavily doubt that's true as Gundam and Ideon are two seperate entities, both are by (at the time depressed) Yoshiyuki Tomino, but I think the guy had enough sense to keep the two entities apart and rightfully so as Idiot was a bit of a waste of time, IMO.
I can't find a SRW A3 video of Ideon fighting Bersek EVA 01
PrimusVsUnicron does that happen in the game?
このゲームバランスならあの程度の宇宙怪獣は普通に全滅させれる気がする
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK NO ONE SURVIVED!
you can get that ending after you beat the game once
Hahahahaha! Ideon Sword could split a planet in seconds, Ideon Gun could hit inside sub-space while in normal-space, Ideon's death itself ended the universe. The Evas can't even go to space, how could it go up against the mighty Ideon?
Ok i've just recently finished watching ideon and i understand the circumstance now. but then i have a new question when you don't get this bad ending how does the conflict with the buff clan conclude?
It's fight or run away
those are the 2 choices that you get on the 2nd playthrough i'm well aware, but what i'm asking is what happens you don't get the bad ending, like how is the conflict with the buff clan resolved when ideon does not invoke, or to put it simply what happens when you choose run you know besides the most obvious answer.
in the good ending, the surviving buff clans didn't go all the way out to die together with admiral Doba, instead they surrendered and cheer on you for the final battle against Keisar Ephes. After you win, if I remember correctly, the buff clans decide to join together with the Megaroad project (with the Macross folks) to find a new habitable planet somewhere in the galaxy, in which Cosmo and the Solo ship crews also join.
@Hakkun9872
... Because one of the Alpha 3 protagonists is Ingram?
Please can someone translate the dialogue boxes here please?
*sigh*
The end of Eva just destoryed the entire humankind or as Gendou likes to call it combining all human conciousness into one.
BTW, Ideon never helped inspire Eva.
Anyone else hear a terrible remix of Messenger from the Void in there? I most certainly do.
How on Erath could EVa 01 not stop this, where was It when this was happening?
And whoever thunmbs down my comment. Grow up, its my opinion. Seriously, don' get so serious over an opiniuon, people.
ideon eats anything for breakfast
Ideon eats you for breakfast
ideon actually strongest mech in @3 , but this end kinda suck
What the how Voltes Team Kazuya Died Caused Ideon Suicide Bairal Jin
Well the events of this part of the game consist whit the ones of be invoked movie.... so xD everithing on that solar system was fucking blown away..... whit every one of the pilots.... so.... bye bye the never know kaiser ephes
703k... sweet jesus D:
it isnt edited I also got that end
It's Gun of Dis and it's cool
And you know what happens next?
Kira didn't die
-Fuck Dinosaurs-
Conclusion
Only Tomino and All the Ideon Cast Died
Because FUCKING JESUS YAMATO BROUGHT EVERYONE WITH HIM SO THEY ALL LIVE TO SEE TOMMOROW
Never watched it. To an outsider, it's completely batshit.
Especially one that doesn't understand Japanese.
Which part?
uhhh....why are a bunch of characters from completely different animes all in this?
Every Super Robot Wars game is like that.
"THE END"
i lol'd or was that edited in?
Wait? what game is i????
@valnavat2nd
apparently tomino
then tengen toppa gurren lagann comes in a come out of no where and undoes the end of the universe!
tch, I'm no Evafag as you call anbd I know that ideon helped inspire Evangelion.
Oh and Eva 01 would eat ideon. Also, It is a catyluyt for an apocaliptic event that coul;d probably be seen from the whole universe.
Wait. Wait. Wait.
Wait.
What?
what the hell just happened
The Ide was invoked... Everything returned to nothingness. THE END.
Christian Anderson the universe died
they died. Ide destroyed everything.
...well that sucked!
@hypergap hahahaha XDDDDDDDDDDDDD
WAT
@HeirOfSparda That would be fine except they were not reborn! For all we know if they came back as totally different lifeforms! The bottom line is Tomino wanted them all dead and never wanted them to come back! They even brutally killed children, yes I know it was trying to look realistic, but deep down Tomino was depressed and that's why he did it. Therefore to me Ideon (or Idiot as I call it) was the worst robot anime I can think of. It should be sent to the scrapheap by the SDF-1 Macross!
A mech that destroys the whole universe... That's so lame! What were they thinking?! This is even worse than Evangelion.
Elyseon EVANGELION WAS BASED ON THIS! AT LEAST IT HAD SURVIVORS, IDEON DOESN'T HAVE ANY!
Tomino was in one of his moods. His "fuck it lemme kill fictional people to get this frustration out before I go postal on everyone at Sunrise"
i mean there's been dumber crap... iirc in one of the super robot wars F games, it's stated that shin getter would destroy the entire universe just by powering up to its full power, and mazinkaiser's god mode was stated to be equal to that. like... the hell's the point in giving a machine that much power if it won't have any use for it?
@@altreon3608 Ideon is a monster and a villain. In fact, I think it may well be a shitty self-insert for Tomino. It deserves to be destroyed just like Mazinger ZERO.