Uncovering The Lore of Moonwood Mill Residents Part 2 | The Sims Lore
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2022
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Part 2 of the werewolf lore from Moonwood Mill. This time we're uncovering the lore of Moonwood Mill's residents!
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(Lore Spoilers) if you get to know Jacob and Rory and ask them about Moonwood Mill, Jacob was born in Evergreen Harbor, fled a fire, was bit by a werewolf, and was found in the woods by Kristopher, while I believe Rory was chased out of Brindleton Bay after becoming a werewolf. So they are both adopted, and have a surprising amount of cross pack backstory!
yeah, there's a lot od references to other worlds. wolfgang is from san mayshuno i think (or however you spell it)
@@ufoludDziad you got it the first time lol
Evergreen Harbour? I didn’t expect that tbh aren’t they supposed to embrace change? (Given that pack is All about change to clean up the neighborhood?)
Don't forget that rory was bit by a "dog". Doesn't that remind u the reference from sims 2?
Did you know that Lily is actually Lilith and Caleb's first cousin? It's true their moms were sisters. You have to ask Lily about Moonwood Mill and she'll tell you about it.
It's a shame the game doesn't actually show them as cousins.
@@Cangwen True
Love the video, but you missed a lot by not looking into things those sims say when you ask them about werewolves stuff, just like Lily's family and war with vampires (sometimes as a werewolf you can talk about vampires' betray). I heard also that there's info in the game about vampires being created by spellcasters as well. So, if you'd like of course, there's a lot of material for another Moonwood Mill lore video I'm sure everyone will love
Thanks for saying that. I was going to say she missed so much… glad someone caught that too.
James Turner made the lots in Moonwood Mill , he was not told to put a computer in Kris's house and forgot to make a bedroom in the house Lily so it was put in the shed.
For Lou’s story I think he loves being a werewolf but the game might be trying to tell u he loves Celene more and would probably give up the life to be with her cuz on the wiki it says he’s smitten with her as a sentiment so I think the break up/dating situation was recent and she was like we can be cool and I understand u wanna be a werewolf but I can’t and I don’t want that and she wasn’t gonna ask him to choose either I might get them back together in my game
in my Game I decided to Redesign Lou, he actually left the Wildfangs to become a Lone Wolf (But Not a Aggressive One), but Celene and Lou Remained Ammicable, even regaining the friendship status. Lou also got Wracked with Guilt in my Game, so when he went on a rampage he got Very Sad after (Strangely. One of Rory's Temperaments was ALSO Replaced by Wracked with Guilt. which I let stay)
I guess I'll have to try getting them back together in one of my playthroughs, but I love him with my gen 10 legacy heir so much that I don't like him with anyone else lol. I do have them rekindle their friendship though and Celene even becomes bff's with my heir. I like to think she becomes their kids' godmother
I had one of my sims get into a relationship with Jacob and get to know him. He hinted at an interesting backstory, he was found by his adoptive father in Evergreen Harbor with no memories and all alone. I wonder if there is more to uncover there.
I love that the Game Pack dev team is branching out into more lore - especially lore that connects to other packs/worlds! It does make me sad that, since these worlds and sims are in separate packs, we won't be able to *see* any of the family connections we're told about (specifically here Lily and the Vatores) in the family tree/sim profile panel. Of course, that's not to say that we would even *IF* they were in the same world. ::hard side eye towards Oasis Springs and the Landgraabs/Zest households::
There's one more thing about Lily Zhu back story if you talk more about the monneood mill to her she talks about Lilith Vatore that got me thinking about them more
I saw this one in James Turner's playthrough, where Lily mentions, that Lilith and Caleb are her cousins.
@@tonywild2559 Yea, and I also took the initiative to get Lily, Lilith and Caleb to have Good Relations with time, (Prevented conflicts)
@@tonywild2559 can you tell me which video? Is it in part 1 video or 2?
@@ananalparabiabi1200 Sorry, I don't remember, but it must have been in one of the earlier parts, that came out before this video, I guess.
If you use the MCCC Command centre Mod to unhide hidden Sims by clicking a mailbox, he's automatically sent to a Random lot to live, Named _Wolftown_Template_Greg, but you can see it's him in his human form, and he wears a suit that you can't unlock in CAS. Wolftown was the Testing Name for Moonwood Mill. It also shows you all of his traits, not just Mean.
You cannot marry or ask Greg to move in. Those options never appear no matter how high is the relationship.
But you can cheat him into your household, I did it once and he is almost impossible to do anything, because his actions keep being canceled.
@@chargeminecraft Greg is a “cryptid” apparently so you can only interact with him during certain hours. Something along the lines of you cannot ‘tell ghost stories’ has popped up a couple of times.
@@chargeminecraftyou can fix him by removing his Town Wolf trait - traits.remove_trait trait_wolftown_greg
I married and had a child with him. Using a cheat to remove a hidden trait you can!
There still is a ton more lore (spoilers for said lore) especially in the tunnels you do need to be a werewolf and have the night vision trait like there's the garlic room that suggests that these tunnels may have been used as hideouts when vampires and werewolves or mooncasters were fighting and there's also the room full of claw marks and you get told "someone or something seemed desperate to get out" so maybe this part of the underground was the vampires side of the war and they would trap wolves/mooncasters
My real question is who is going around turning all these werewolves that ended up moving there? Is it Greg when he's rampaging?
Greg is one of the options (since I've seen other content creators videos where he just randomly runs up and fights their sims) either by infecting them with werebies or if a sim asks Greg for his "gift."
However, you can also contract werebies from a random werewolf while exploring the underground tunnel system. And I suppose you could theorize/headcanon that the tunnels connect to other worlds in the Sims 4, thus explaining how those who hadn't been living in Moonwood Mill initially were turned into werewolves (for example, Rory and Jacob). It does make you wonder if there might be other relatives in those worlds, not just the Lily and the Vatores.
I feel like Greg deep down is a good person but he’s so mean cuz he’s hurt and broken cuz he feels responsible for his wife’s death and not being there for her and to take care of her I think that’s y he’s a jerk usually someone who’s hard and jaded has something underlying going on kinda like Jean Grey from X-Men
That’s why I imagined him as a villain and ally with Vlad till after the battle, Kristopher recruited him, *HOPING* he will have the 2nd chance, but if he is a jerk to them again… we’ll, they will kick him out again.
Please do the lore for copperdale (if there is any). I do enjoy this Sims 4 lore. I do not have a snack cause just got home 😭😭😭
I think there is some lore given that it says in one of the aspirations to summon an urban myth additionally the town was founded as a copper/Lapis lazuli mining town (I believe the guy was from San myshuno as well so there’s that)
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This was interesting! I’m hoping the high school pack has some lore, whatever that may be lol
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Okay, i havent gotten around to buying this pack yet, cause i got so much stuff in the last sale, but i've been dabbling with a spellcasters a bit...
When I heard the familiar thing, my first thought was that it might be hinting at werewolfs being in some way related or even descended from spellcasters. And the more I look at things, the more it seems to make sense.
1. Okay for this we have to ignore a bit that Sims4 is an alternate timeline thing --- but it's more about mechanics than history so it still works: In Sims 2 you get lycanthropy like an infection through bite from the pack leader or fighting. This special wolf npc could be someone's familiar, especially since it turns into a normal wolf when you adopt it. But in Sims 1 it was only available through a Charm, casted by a magic user. They look very much like low poly versions of the ones in sim 4 - while in 2/3 they look more humanoid. - In Sims 3 it's specifically called a curse and yes, can get it through biting but also through an Alchemy potion - again something magic user related. Lycanthropy isnt't considered a disease but a curse. Sims 3 is also when Hybrids were phased out. So a werewolf-witch was not officially possible anymore. (keep in mind for later) - you can also not be both a spellcaster and a werewolf in Sims 4
2. The Myshupotamian backstory with the wise people wearing wolf masks and howling at the moon to store wisdom sounds like an elaborate spell ritual. It could be lycanthropy originally was myushopotamian spellcaster familiar perk, or more likely even a curse from magic overflow that might have killed the caster - but was taken on by the familiar - but then the familiar could bestow its effects onto the caster...
3. Both spellcasters and Werewolfs have a meter that cause an effect related to their supernaturality. Overcharge happens when you have used too much magic - the moon getting filled with wisdom could be a metaphor for the ancient spellcasters, casting many spells over the months--- then holding a ritual to collectively overcharge at the full moon to keep themselves save by specifically triggering the "werewolf curse" onto their familiars and then gaining themselves (see 2.) and then simmering down over the next weeks.)
This curse turned out to be dangerous but also very advantageous for those who knew to harness their feral powers. - this would be supported by the cure being a potion - since that's how a lot of the overflow curses can be cured.
Werewolf Fury forcing their magical transformation could be a remnant of their spellcaster overcharge.
And it makes sense for them to work together with the MOOcasters, who are specifically mentioned as being spellcasters - if they were spellcasters before. Also they are literally called MoonCASTERS...
3. The Lunviks being mentioned as having familiars when none of the current werewolfs have: --- you cant naturally have a dog familiar but you can ask your dog pet to become your familiar if you are very close - werewolfs are better at training dogs. It could be assumed that since dogs are domesticated wolves... the first "pet familiars" could just have been early pet wolves.
The Lunviks having familiars at all is interesting because there is a familiar that could be tied to them - the Sixam Owl familiar:
4. The owl description reads "The preeminent symbol of magic and ancient knowledge. They have a strong connection to the moon and stoically follow their chosen Spellcaster."
It doesnt say anything about Sixam per se - the only relation to the planet inherent to the bird, is its eery glow and that sixam is a "night" planet because vampires can go there without being harmed and owls are kind of night animals. This would be an okay reason for Spellcasters to name that familiar after Sixam BUT they could have just called it starry owl or moon owl. Why would the Spellcasters name an owl after an alien planet? - My theory: - because the planet was discovered by a spellcaster who was heavily tied to the moon - and they might have wanted to honor that person.
The owl is obviously named after the planet - which was discovered by Avelina Lunvik - so the owl must have come into existence or at least be named AFTER Avelina discovered the planet AND - the bird has a strong connection to the moon, - like werewolfs and I know the ancient magic and knowledge(wisdom) thing could be just a greek owls of athena thing - BUT Athena was neither a magic nor a moon goddess as such. She was wisdom--- which leads me back to the ancient myshuopotamian moon ritual - and a war goddess. This is a weak argument but werewolfs like to fight...
Im thinking the old Myshupotamians were Spellcasters who actively harnessed the werewolf curse being genereated from overcharge but the practice probably fell into oblivion for some reason. Maybe it was frowned upon as time went on, due to werewolfs being dangerous. Or because people realised it was hereditary and the casters too long afflicted by, or born with, the curse lost all their other magic abilities, which is of course bad for the spellcaster community (see notes on sims 3 und 1. above) - I think the Lunviks might have originally been spellcasters who just happened to by chance trigger the lycanthropy curse - maybe they had some latent myshupotamian genes or it was triggered by them having wolf familiars. Maybe you can only get hit with the lycanthropy curse if you have a wolf familiar - that's why its not on the list of curses the normal player can get from overcharge... cause dogs arent connected as close to the moon anymore...
Or maybe they are just hinting that we might get hybrids at some point (maybe in 5 )
Nice video, loved part 1 and part 2!😄
i've not seen someone mention it yet but i found lore wise that Lilly and Lilith are cousins as is Caleb with her but she was always closer to Lilith she remarks that she feels betrayed after losing Lilith to the dark side when she was turned into a vampire and Llly becomes a werewolf when already an elder from Kristopher that gives us an rough idea how old Lilith and Caleb are as Lilly was an elder when she was turned and Lilith was a young adult since she states they are the same age
awww yes! perfect video to kick off my Birthday, thanks Miss Lore!!!
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You made me want this pack. I've been watching people play it and it does look fun! I'm happy to have werewolves and vampires. I love the vampires pack and that creepy little world. 💚💙
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@5:36 I thought it was my sim that was on there my name is Herbert too 😅
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Why does everybody's HLou Howell looks so nice? Mine is a HUGE Himbo. And i mean HUGE. His muscles are on 100! And i never played him LOL
You missed out that Lily is Caleb and Lilith's cousin 😢
We need part 3
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This, THIS is why I say the werewolves pack is the best game pack released to this day, so much story, and good gameplay, also Rory, she... She mommy-
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So I moved in Celene to have her Lou to date & it removed her from her bartender job😩It upset me soo much that im ready to make a brand new saved file because of it lol
Future reference: Move Lou in a house instead of Celene.
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(Sorry I'm bad with names) When I boot up a new file of The Sims 4 I like to 1) Give the Pancakes a make over) 2) Delete Baby Aril and 3) make the punk rock big girl married to the cuttie from the trailer that's not in the game.
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To be honest this is one of the most disappointing videos from you.
You missed so much stuff this time.
Lily is Caleb's and Lilith's cousin, Rory and Jacob had their hometowns revealed as well as their backstory on why they moved to Moonwood Mill, those launch families also have interesting tie-ins to the overall lore, and even more info could be found on families by asking around town.