*PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT* - If you are watching this video on 12/11/24 or 12/12/24 and you don't fall asleep before the end screen and you see that part II is listed as "Members Only." *DO NOT PANIC* Do not send me nasty emails, don't unsubscribe, don't tell me I am an asshole or a sellout in the comments and *DO NOT CALL MY SHOP* to tell me you can't watch it. The part II will be posted on the 13th at 5pm just like *I ALWAYS DO.* The reason it says members only is because there are some folks that support our RUclips channel by becoming a "RUclips Member" and it gives them early access to all videos I put out. Take a breath, slow down, everything is gonna be OK. Nothing has changed. It's still free like it has been for the past 10 years. Thanks for watching! -Eric O. Join here if you want early access - ruclips.net/channel/UCtAGzm9e_liY7ko1PBhzTHAjoin
Man, people can be so touchy. I’ll look forward to tomorrow. As an old man of 70 (in March of 25) social insecurity and the other joys of getting older somewhat limits my “want tos”
I'm originally from Rochester. 30 years in the Tampa Bay area and still defending Upstate NY. I recently sent your channel link to a guy who says: all mechanics in NY are scam artists and totally untrustworthy. I explained to him that it doesn't matter where you are, there will allllllways be those who will scam you if they can. Then I explained that we were brought up on a handshake. Our work and name are everything.... Then sent Eric O's info. A day or two went came and went and nothing. So I sent him a message and he replied: "WOW, THIS GUY IS GREAT!!!!! I just didn't know how I was going to say it with my foot in my mouth!!" Thanks Eric. For who you are and the representation of us REAL UPSTATE NYers..... hahaha...
When I traveled the US, people would ask where I was from. I would say New York. They'd reply "Funny, you don't have an accent.". I would then reply " No, I'm from upstate New York.". They would then say "I have an aunt that lives in Poughkeepsie." "No, no further north than there." They would then look at me like I had two heads and there was nothing north of Poughkeepsie in New York State! 😂
@@freetolook3727 I'm a Navy vet. Of course everyone askes where each other are from. When I'd say New York, most would back up and not really say anything. When I learned that the rest of the country saw downstate NYers this way, I started replying either Rochester, NY or Upstate NY. Never anyone backing up anymore.. lol... I even had a boss hire me once just because he knew where I came from and that we were raised and taught to do a great job reliably.
@@SouthMainAuto Another RUclipsr up your way is dairy farmer Andy Hourigan of Farming, Fixing, and Fabricating. Wonderful family. You folks are the REAL NEW YORKERS.🤙
That double spring setup they use sucks! I've been trying to capture how to do this w/o pulling the axle shaft on video for a while now, but every single time it deteriorated into filling up the swear jar and getting frustrated with the camera being in my way. Long story short, I've never captured enough good footage of the process to make a video on it. Looking forward to part 2 of your video!
Eric, it's all coming back to me now after seeing it. I think what I did was bend the backing plate trying to get the seized up actuator out past the hub flange. Granted, this all happened like a year and a half ago.
Not 6 months ago I went to replace outer tie-rod ends & gave the dust shields a little tweak for more impact room.. except I forgot to tweak one back to shape & it wore a nice groove right into my *brand new* Powerstop fancy-pants rotor driving it to the alignment shop! Just remember folks.. if a career mechanic can do it, you can do it. Don't feel bad. 👨🔧
On to part 2. Your right Mr. O. When the rear axle seals leaked on my 06 Nissan Frontier, I got OEM bearings, seals, and whatever else was in the picture. The leak was because the axles were pulled to install the ARB Air Locker and seals were not replaced. The new parts solved the problem. Fun and games.
Mopar tech here, for future reference you can pull the axles and reinstall without replacing the bearings and seals. Also, you can get the OEM backing plates with shoes already assembled which is the way to go when you get it already pre-taken apart or shoes ripped out of the backing plates from rust
Actual mechanic that owns a shop of 35 years here. Yup you can but if you pull an axle with a leaky seal & don’t change the bearings… you’re insane lol
@@stevemccauley5734 I can confirm this from anecdotal personal experience. When I was really young, I replaced the brake shoes on my Ford Pinto, replaced the leaking axle seal, and put the axle back in. Well, a couple of months later, the bearing started growling like a pissed off bear, pulled off the brake drum and was greeted by a very stinky greasy mess, ruined the new shoes etc. So I ended up pulling the axle out, taking to a shop to have the old bearing cut off, new one pressed on, and replaced the drums and shoes on both sides. Again. Lesson learned = do it right or do it twice. Not a fun job to do in the parking lot in the winter either. What I think happened was, the bad bearing allowed the axle to wobble just a bit which takes out the seal relatively fast. And brakes and gear oil don't mix well... well lubricated brakes don't exactly work, haha.
@@stevemccauley5734 he mentioned having to replace the seals and bearings because of pulling the axles, which can be done without replacing id they aren't leaking. Was just trying to help. When you work on the same platform every day, you pick up on small things that those at independent shops might not know. Replace the seals on one of these axles without replacing the bearings, I'll wait.
The good shape that vehicle is in, I'd say the customer is one of those who know that when it 'gets to a point' there is no point being picky, take it down to base and rebuild! A little more upfront but when you leave, you leave for a few years not a few months :)
At an inspection done by our Province years ago I was told the axle seal is a critical safety repair that needs to be done even if the leak is miniscule. So, I'm a little surprised that New York doesn't care. After all, gear oil slung onto brake rotors, calipers, and parking brake hardware will affect braking. I'm so happy to see we get to watch you do this one! It's a goofy design that requires the axle removal just to replace parking brake hardware.
Jeep engineers. " We can't figure out why the company is going bankrupt". Jeep engineers."We didn't put a lot of thought into the brakes because we figure the vehicle will be broken down most of the time. My niece has a 2021 Jeep. She parks it at the dealership most nights
Normally the Jeep would rust to bits before the emergency brakes would need to be serviced. The bean counters did not anticipate someone would actually fluid film a Jeep.
I had a 97 TJ and I can’t tell you how many times I had to work on that thing. EVERYTIME I fixed something another thing would pop up. Luckily it wasn’t a daily driver so I could sit on it until I was ready, but I laugh every time I see someone driving down the road. I have absolutely never had to work on a vehicle as much as I did that one.
My 95 Zj gets the second least amount of work, or maybe the least amount, its competition is a Honda Fit, manual trans. Basically the simplest car Honda has made in recent years, and its a GE8, which means it doesn't have direct injection or anything fancy. The Jeep might win the race in less work since its older, and doesn't need 100k valve adjustments. Both vehicles are over 200k miles though. Pick the correct jeep and stop the need to work on them. Also understand, they are meant for work, at least the old ones, and not to be perfect.
I suspect the backing plate was bent while removing the rotor, which was likely hung up on the parking brake shoes. It can be difficult to loosen the adjuster to collapse the shoes enough to get past a ridge in the drum. Swearing takes place, and a bfh and/or long pry bars are used to extract said rotor. The backing plate is a convenient item to pry against and can also take an errant hammer blow, resulting in more swearing. Ask me how I know!
History lesson for today. Jeep stands for GP, which during the big war came from the initials GP, for General Purpose vehicle. However now the company that makes Fiats owns them, so GP stands for Garage Payment.
That is what happens when you don't use your parking brake. They freeze up from rust. I use mine at least once a week to keep it in good working order.
It's always the "while you are in there" stuff that costs... It is what it is, and it looks like this vehicle is looked after for the most part, so if it were mine it would be "Get-R-Done Son" but then again I don't know what kind of financial hell these folks might be in. Always a story! Thanks Eric. Looking forward to the next part.
I can’t believe someone would call the shop saying they can’t watch your video. I would hang up that phone so fast while yelling the nastiest thing I could muster that second if I were you!
I have a 98 Wrangler and before I swapped out the rear D35 for a D44 with Disc brakes my drum brakes were trashed. Mud from off-roading got up in there and bent both backing plates. Made the decision for the axle swap a lot easier.
I retired from U S P.S. and the Ford exploder chassis as we call them had similar e brake set up, yes you can change those without pulling the axles but I have never done one with out leaking blood out of my hands every time, thank goodness it needed backing plates so the axles had to come out, we are not in the rust belt here.
Smart way to do it, both of those axle seals are on their way out anyway, if neglected all that fluid is just going to eventually get everything greasy and he will no longer have any rear brakes. Also I've found in the past, if gear oil is making it that far, the bearings aren't very good either, because a new bearing will hold back that gear oil for awhile too, even with a borderline axle seal.
My Dad had a 1972 Pontiac Catalina back in the mid 1970's .We lived in the rust belt in northeast Ohio and the E-Brake cable was rotted out .Everything else on the car passed inspection except that brake cable .car failed .Dad drove it home and got his welder out and welded a piece of angle iron onto the e-brake foot peddle and had it running over to the cars regular foot brake so that when you stepped dow on the e-brake .that bar pushed down on regular brakes .Then he cut the wire for the brake lights and put a toggle switch under the dash so that when they had him step on the e-brake. The brake lights didn't come on .Dad drove it back for inspection and they had him atep on the e-brake and put the car in gear .well with the e-brake engaged the car didn't move ...They passed him and he got his sticker ...Dad got creative with those old rotted out cars we had in Ohio😮
6:22 these double ring spanners are great. I built one my own in the past because I didn't know that those even exist. It was a 13/14mm spanner for the brake caliper bolts. I worked on Chevrolet cruze, Orlando and Opel type cars and also worked on ssangyong. They often use 14 mm bolts but 13 mm is more common on vw cars. It was much better to work with a long spanner it's was around 1ft long but normal spanners are around the half of this length. Anyway I learned from this to buy tools and being open for new things. People sucks who think they know and can everything. I had a lot those morons around me in the past.
I still can’t believe there’s a decent proportion of the public who slap their vehicle in park and call it a day. They’re missing out, really. All hail the mighty hand/park brake
If you lived in a snow state decades ago you learned to not use your parking brake. Cables and parts corroded up from salt usage. You could apply the brake but it would not release. I haven't used a parking brake for decades. Too risky.
@@lint2023 You just have to keep the parking brake lubricated correctly and use it often. Same thing with drop down spare tires under pickup beds. I pull mine down once a year while rustproofing and lubricate the cable. I've never had an issue using it.
Simple answer to THIS brake setup is hire a helper and needle nose vise grips, and a number of spring hooks. Voila, both done in only "a few" hours. No need to cut up the retainer/bearing seal thing.
Reminds me of day when my neighbour asked me to put rotors and pads on the rear of a Ram 1500 classic. Well I can tell you how those tinfoil backing plates can bend by just looking at them. The swear jar was over flowing that day. I would never do them again especially for a beer.
My neighbor is a Retired Dealer Mechanic of 35 years working on GM and Toyota Vehicles but got bored and opened a shop next door to my property. He has got to the point that he hates to see a Newer Jeep come in--he told our neighbor to quit bring in his PT Cruiser because it is so hard to work on and a pc of crap...People will bring in their Vehicle for one thing when 5 other problems exist that need Repaired, I just want this One Tie Rod Replaced, not both. Like most Mechanics, things like Tie Rod Ends need to be Replaced in Pairs...
I think this is why I stopped doing my own work. It was getting real stupid real fast too often. These cars are now capable of going to the moon with a big enough oxygen tank. and some long johns.
47 years ago my uncle had a bad axle seal on his F150. To fix the seal, the bearing had to go. I replaced it but for some reason I can't remember, I made a mistake and the bearing had to come back off. This meant a new bearing again. When he asked the fee I told him $50 plus the bearing & seal which was the cost I was into parts. He wasn't happy and I made $0. ($100 to get a new seal in 1978 was A LOT). Oh, Eric, you are NOT an asshole. Just wish I'd see the PFC I sent you. Guess you gave it to "your boy Josh" to use on alignment jobs.
I loved the comment about hitting the sensor with a hammer in a pissed off fit of rage. Been there with other things, so done that (sometimes good, sometimes bad). Had an Aircraft Mechanic buddy launch a wrench across a hangar under those circumstances once (no one hit, but sure woke up a few on the other side of the hangar)
A little off topic but how many years do you suggest replacing an Interstate brand car battery? We live in Utah with hot summers and cold winters. See 4-8 years as the recommended duration. Thank you
Stellantis announced this week that the Chrysler Pacifica is the Last Remaining Chrysler vehicle still being Manufactured and Sales were down 40% in 3rd Quarter. 🤔🤪
Neighbor bought a used one for his high school son and to take to college spent almost 6 grand to make it right and the kid had it for two years dropped it off and told his dad to sell it. Didn’t get his money out of it.
i had a jeep like that that i upgraded the rear axle shafts, the bearings were already pressed on, it was a simple swap and i dont remember having an issue with the backing plate.
I got a horrible question. Know someone that wants to change the old drum setup on an old Chevelle and I'm against it as it stops fine as it is. He's hard headed though. I've had others do it before and they never was satisfied with the results as it was home jobs. With my experience, I'm guessing that you would probably need to change the brake lines for proper fluid flow, probably change the proportion valve, and maybe the master cylinder too? I'm just trying to prepare this fella for the headache his in for. Any experience with drum to disk swaps? Slappimg the parts on is a piece of cake, but the tricky part is getting that proper stop again. Any thoughts would be cool, thanks.
Funny I just did my parking break shoes and hardware ,taking out the old rotor was a pain and could be the reason the plate was bent for that fellow .i was able to change everything without removing the shaft just need like 10 hands with 7 fingers each 😢
I replaced the parking brake shoes on a 2007 Wrangler Jk. The double springs are not easy to put on. The original Mopar springs measured 5.25:inches in length. The replacement spring with any of the replacement kits, measure 4.25 inches , making it more difficult to stretch. I bought a Mopar spring kit; they measured 5 inches. I used the Mopar kit springs, but almost used the old springs ,since they were not rusted. I did this without pulling the axel. I had 113 thousand miles on the original shoes, they were missing most of the shoe material . I bought this Jeep used. Someone over adjusted the shoes. The other side was good and not worn. You have to adjust the brake shoes before you attach the caliper. The engineer who designed this , should go back to school, especially with the double springs. Amazingly the Jeep Manual showed one spring. Go figure. Not an easy job.
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Man, people can be so touchy. I’ll look forward to tomorrow. As an old man of 70 (in March of 25) social insecurity and the other joys of getting older somewhat limits my “want tos”
Very smart putting that up , lol.
people need too chill
The nerve of some people..
Who could be mad with all the free information you share? Great job South Main!
"Toot around town on the struggle bus...." Freakin' hysterical.
I'm originally from Rochester. 30 years in the Tampa Bay area and still defending Upstate NY. I recently sent your channel link to a guy who says: all mechanics in NY are scam artists and totally untrustworthy. I explained to him that it doesn't matter where you are, there will allllllways be those who will scam you if they can. Then I explained that we were brought up on a handshake. Our work and name are everything.... Then sent Eric O's info. A day or two went came and went and nothing. So I sent him a message and he replied: "WOW, THIS GUY IS GREAT!!!!! I just didn't know how I was going to say it with my foot in my mouth!!" Thanks Eric. For who you are and the representation of us REAL UPSTATE NYers..... hahaha...
The real NY ! Upstate is where it's at
When I traveled the US, people would ask where I was from.
I would say New York.
They'd reply "Funny, you don't have an accent.".
I would then reply " No, I'm from upstate New York.".
They would then say "I have an aunt that lives in Poughkeepsie."
"No, no further north than there."
They would then look at me like I had two heads and there was nothing north of Poughkeepsie in New York State!
😂
@@freetolook3727 I'm a Navy vet. Of course everyone askes where each other are from. When I'd say New York, most would back up and not really say anything. When I learned that the rest of the country saw downstate NYers this way, I started replying either Rochester, NY or Upstate NY. Never anyone backing up anymore.. lol... I even had a boss hire me once just because he knew where I came from and that we were raised and taught to do a great job reliably.
@@SouthMainAuto
Another RUclipsr up your way is dairy farmer Andy Hourigan of Farming, Fixing, and Fabricating.
Wonderful family.
You folks are the REAL NEW YORKERS.🤙
Thank You for doing that Pal...
I knew something was up with a 12:43 minute video. I am anticipating Part II.
That double spring setup they use sucks! I've been trying to capture how to do this w/o pulling the axle shaft on video for a while now, but every single time it deteriorated into filling up the swear jar and getting frustrated with the camera being in my way. Long story short, I've never captured enough good footage of the process to make a video on it. Looking forward to part 2 of your video!
"It gets real stupid, real fast...". OH yes sir!!! 😂 I can relate to that in more ways than I'd like to admit to here!!! 😂😂😂
JEEP = just empty every pocket.
Eric, it's all coming back to me now after seeing it. I think what I did was bend the backing plate trying to get the seized up actuator out past the hub flange. Granted, this all happened like a year and a half ago.
😮😮
These things bend just looking at them 😅
Not 6 months ago I went to replace outer tie-rod ends & gave the dust shields a little tweak for more impact room.. except I forgot to tweak one back to shape & it wore a nice groove right into my *brand new* Powerstop fancy-pants rotor driving it to the alignment shop!
Just remember folks.. if a career mechanic can do it, you can do it. Don't feel bad.
👨🔧
@@SouthMainAuto
What I want to know is...
Who's looking?😂
That was going to be my guess... thanks for coming clean.
I did the parking brakes without pulling the axles and if I can do it you can do it as someone famous said. Go Eric O!
On to part 2. Your right Mr. O. When the rear axle seals leaked on my 06 Nissan Frontier, I got OEM bearings, seals, and whatever else was in the picture. The leak was because the axles were pulled to install the ARB Air Locker and seals were not replaced. The new parts solved the problem.
Fun and games.
Mopar tech here, for future reference you can pull the axles and reinstall without replacing the bearings and seals. Also, you can get the OEM backing plates with shoes already assembled which is the way to go when you get it already pre-taken apart or shoes ripped out of the backing plates from rust
Yup, but at $215 a side, customer probably didn't want to sink that much money into parts, and he already bought the shoes, and some new springs.
Actual mechanic that owns a shop of 35 years here. Yup you can but if you pull an axle with a leaky seal & don’t change the bearings… you’re insane lol
@@stevemccauley5734 I can confirm this from anecdotal personal experience. When I was really young, I replaced the brake shoes on my Ford Pinto, replaced the leaking axle seal, and put the axle back in. Well, a couple of months later, the bearing started growling like a pissed off bear, pulled off the brake drum and was greeted by a very stinky greasy mess, ruined the new shoes etc. So I ended up pulling the axle out, taking to a shop to have the old bearing cut off, new one pressed on, and replaced the drums and shoes on both sides. Again. Lesson learned = do it right or do it twice. Not a fun job to do in the parking lot in the winter either.
What I think happened was, the bad bearing allowed the axle to wobble just a bit which takes out the seal relatively fast. And brakes and gear oil don't mix well... well lubricated brakes don't exactly work, haha.
@@stevemccauley5734 he mentioned having to replace the seals and bearings because of pulling the axles, which can be done without replacing id they aren't leaking. Was just trying to help. When you work on the same platform every day, you pick up on small things that those at independent shops might not know. Replace the seals on one of these axles without replacing the bearings, I'll wait.
I think this shows why Stellantis is going down the tubes. Nice work
@@JackdeDuCoeur If you think this is bad try doing it on a Suburu!
Another good one, a little investigation, make the diagnosis, and fix the problem!!
You are the best. Looking out for your customers. Thank you.
Compliments of the season to you and your family Eric,we love the videos ❤❤🎉🎉🎉 from the uk
The good shape that vehicle is in, I'd say the customer is one of those who know that when it 'gets to a point' there is no point being picky, take it down to base and rebuild! A little more upfront but when you leave, you leave for a few years not a few months :)
can't wait to see part 2 Mr.O
Glad to see you back in the shop after hunting season. Greetings from the Old Jarhead in WNC
At an inspection done by our Province years ago I was told the axle seal is a critical safety repair that needs to be done even if the leak is miniscule. So, I'm a little surprised that New York doesn't care. After all, gear oil slung onto brake rotors, calipers, and parking brake hardware will affect braking. I'm so happy to see we get to watch you do this one! It's a goofy design that requires the axle removal just to replace parking brake hardware.
Stay tuned!
Jeep engineers. " We can't figure out why the company is going bankrupt". Jeep engineers."We didn't put a lot of thought into the brakes because we figure the vehicle will be broken down most of the time. My niece has a 2021 Jeep. She parks it at the dealership most nights
Normally the Jeep would rust to bits before the emergency brakes would need to be serviced. The bean counters did not anticipate someone would actually fluid film a Jeep.
Also Jeep engineers: it’s a Jeep thing
JEEP: "Junk each and every part".
I had a 97 TJ and I can’t tell you how many times I had to work on that thing. EVERYTIME I fixed something another thing would pop up. Luckily it wasn’t a daily driver so I could sit on it until I was ready, but I laugh every time I see someone driving down the road. I have absolutely never had to work on a vehicle as much as I did that one.
J.E.E.P. Just Empty Every Pocket
I loved my YJ. I wish I had it back.
My 95 Zj gets the second least amount of work, or maybe the least amount, its competition is a Honda Fit, manual trans. Basically the simplest car Honda has made in recent years, and its a GE8, which means it doesn't have direct injection or anything fancy. The Jeep might win the race in less work since its older, and doesn't need 100k valve adjustments. Both vehicles are over 200k miles though.
Pick the correct jeep and stop the need to work on them. Also understand, they are meant for work, at least the old ones, and not to be perfect.
That's a smart customer that tells Eric to "do whatever it takes" to make it right.
Nice looking for a Jeep in the PRNY rust belt.
looks like a ROCK on the trail got jammed behind the backing plate.....good job, good vid
"rock on the trail" aka debris in the shopping center parking lot
That's what I think happened 😊😊😊
The trail lmaoooooo
Good evening Eric. Thank you for the video!
Did parking brake shoes on my 2012 a few years ago without pulling the axle. PITA…but now I know I was just determined. Thanks EO!
You forgot to tell me to smash the Thumbs Up...I am in a quandary now....Guess I will give you one, but you owe me! Thanks for the video
" ... and we'll do it together" Nice way to introduce the video, as if you're right there observing
I suspect the backing plate was bent while removing the rotor, which was likely hung up on the parking brake shoes. It can be difficult to loosen the adjuster to collapse the shoes enough to get past a ridge in the drum. Swearing takes place, and a bfh and/or long pry bars are used to extract said rotor. The backing plate is a convenient item to pry against and can also take an errant hammer blow, resulting in more swearing. Ask me how I know!
Thanks for the video Eric.
nice clean rig, well worth spending some money on to do it right.
If you own a Jeep, you better be a mechanic or be prepared to hand one money often.
Love all your videos Mr 'O'....always get it fixed in the end... Thank you for all your efforts Mr 'O'
The parking brake is great. I don't know why people don't use it. Also turn your wheels (the correct way) when parking on a hill.
I always use mine. I think people stopped when automatic transmission become common instead of a costly option.
I got dollar bills for your jar. 😂😂
He needs to do a dance for those Shirley :D
The ghost of Lee Iacocca has been known to wander around in the wee hours and smash up backing plates.
Lee is getting his revenge from the grave
Seems like a fun job, Eric :-) Waiting for Part 2.
Coming soon!
@@SouthMainAuto Yay 🙂
"and we'll do it together." LOL great salute to Diagnose Dan! ❤
"Let's do it togedder".
@thesffog1814 😅 I love that guy. He's so talented
History lesson for today. Jeep stands for GP, which during the big war came from the initials GP, for General Purpose vehicle. However now the company that makes Fiats owns them, so GP stands for Garage Payment.
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Just exchange every part
That is what happens when you don't use your parking brake. They freeze up from rust. I use mine at least once a week to keep it in good working order.
It's always the "while you are in there" stuff that costs... It is what it is, and it looks like this vehicle is looked after for the most part, so if it were mine it would be "Get-R-Done Son" but then again I don't know what kind of financial hell these folks might be in. Always a story! Thanks Eric. Looking forward to the next part.
I can’t believe someone would call the shop saying they can’t watch your video. I would hang up that phone so fast while yelling the nastiest thing I could muster that second if I were you!
That sounds familiar to the fj cruiser park brakes. I am now $1 million in debt to the swear jar. Hahaha
I have a 98 Wrangler and before I swapped out the rear D35 for a D44 with Disc brakes my drum brakes were trashed. Mud from off-roading got up in there and bent both backing plates. Made the decision for the axle swap a lot easier.
I retired from U S P.S. and the Ford exploder chassis as we call them had similar e brake set up, yes you can change those without pulling the axles but I have never done one with out leaking blood out of my hands every time, thank goodness it needed backing plates so the axles had to come out, we are not in the rust belt here.
Your videos are like little masterpieces. Thank you for your talent and effort.🤖🐡🎬
My brother in law had one of these and had to work on it all the time. Every time he took it out, I had to fix something the next day
Good work as always and a reminder to never buy a Jeep just because brakes equal remove axle
Make sure you Fluid Film the Dorman backing plates prior to your install..🤣🤣🤣..Looking forward to part two.
Oh hell YEAH! Part two baby!!!!
Smart way to do it, both of those axle seals are on their way out anyway, if neglected all that fluid is just going to eventually get everything greasy and he will no longer have any rear brakes. Also I've found in the past, if gear oil is making it that far, the bearings aren't very good either, because a new bearing will hold back that gear oil for awhile too, even with a borderline axle seal.
"real stupid real fast". Could not have summarized the Jeep experience so succinctly.
I guess it helps that the customer saw the horror show firsthand and backed away, so you get less resistance to doing all the steps the right way
My Dad had a 1972 Pontiac Catalina back in the mid 1970's .We lived in the rust belt in northeast Ohio and the E-Brake cable was rotted out .Everything else on the car passed inspection except that brake cable .car failed .Dad drove it home and got his welder out and welded a piece of angle iron onto the e-brake foot peddle and had it running over to the cars regular foot brake so that when you stepped dow on the e-brake .that bar pushed down on regular brakes .Then he cut the wire for the brake lights and put a toggle switch under the dash so that when they had him step on the e-brake. The brake lights didn't come on .Dad drove it back for inspection and they had him atep on the e-brake and put the car in gear .well with the e-brake engaged the car didn't move ...They passed him and he got his sticker ...Dad got creative with those old rotted out cars we had in Ohio😮
Loving the videos thanks Eric 🙂
Glad you're enjoying them.
6:22 these double ring spanners are great. I built one my own in the past because I didn't know that those even exist. It was a 13/14mm spanner for the brake caliper bolts. I worked on Chevrolet cruze, Orlando and Opel type cars and also worked on ssangyong. They often use 14 mm bolts but 13 mm is more common on vw cars. It was much better to work with a long spanner it's was around 1ft long but normal spanners are around the half of this length. Anyway I learned from this to buy tools and being open for new things. People sucks who think they know and can everything. I had a lot those morons around me in the past.
I still can’t believe there’s a decent proportion of the public who slap their vehicle in park and call it a day. They’re missing out, really. All hail the mighty hand/park brake
If you lived in a snow state decades ago you learned to not use your parking brake. Cables and parts corroded up from salt usage. You could apply the brake but it would not release. I haven't used a parking brake for decades. Too risky.
@@lint2023 You just have to keep the parking brake lubricated correctly and use it often. Same thing with drop down spare tires under pickup beds. I pull mine down once a year while rustproofing and lubricate the cable. I've never had an issue using it.
"Do it together", how Diagnose Dan. If only we could get you, Ivan, Ray, Wes and Dan on one show.
Simple answer to THIS brake setup is hire a helper and needle nose vise grips, and a number of spring hooks. Voila, both done in only "a few" hours. No need to cut up the retainer/bearing seal thing.
And how does that fix the leaking axle seal and bent backing plate?
Jinx we said oh boy at the same time 😂
Thanks for the videos, this one and the cooking chicken one, thank you very much.
Reminds me of day when my neighbour asked me to put rotors and pads on the rear of a Ram 1500 classic. Well I can tell you how those tinfoil backing plates can bend by just looking at them. The swear jar was over flowing that day. I would never do them again especially for a beer.
"Struggle bus". I like it. XD
My neighbor is a Retired Dealer Mechanic of 35 years working on GM and Toyota Vehicles but got bored and opened a shop next door to my property. He has got to the point that he hates to see a Newer Jeep come in--he told our neighbor to quit bring in his PT Cruiser because it is so hard to work on and a pc of crap...People will bring in their Vehicle for one thing when 5 other problems exist that need Repaired, I just want this One Tie Rod Replaced, not both. Like most Mechanics, things like Tie Rod Ends need to be Replaced in Pairs...
I'd recommend the loaded backing plates from the dealer
❤ Toni’s Jeep was the axle’s. Be interested to see the results.
Look at them chompers! Back in action without safety wire.
Thanks Eric as usual I love the videos mate, I wish you..Mrs O and your family a wonderful Christmas time mate.
Keep Safe Keep Strong
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Its an "Eric O" video. Just gotta like and subscribe before its even started ! 🤣🖖👍
You don’t strike me as a patient man Mr. O
I have no complaints..................today..............................
I think this is why I stopped doing my own work. It was getting real stupid real fast too often. These cars are now capable of going to the moon with a big enough oxygen tank. and some long johns.
47 years ago my uncle had a bad axle seal on his F150. To fix the seal, the bearing had to go. I replaced it but for some reason I can't remember, I made a mistake and the bearing had to come back off. This meant a new bearing again. When he asked the fee I told him $50 plus the bearing & seal which was the cost I was into parts. He wasn't happy and I made $0. ($100 to get a new seal in 1978 was A LOT). Oh, Eric, you are NOT an asshole. Just wish I'd see the PFC I sent you. Guess you gave it to "your boy Josh" to use on alignment jobs.
I'm calling the shop. Jeep got no big block engine.
It's the big 3.6!
Whoa...easy there on The Blair Witch Project camerawork.
And you were doing so good...
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It’s a jeep! All it needs is a jar, a grunt, and a two finger tickler! Nuff said.
Saludos Eric 👍
You need 2 cuss jars to get those top springs on with the axle in place
"It gets real stupid, real fast." Description of any car built after 1985.
"Do it together", sounds like a diagnose Dan line...Mrs. "O"
Eric, this looks like the jeep you had on a video where the left rear brake caliper had the bleeder screw on the bottom.
A swear jar and a lot of money 😂😂👍
Great videos.
I loved the comment about hitting the sensor with a hammer in a pissed off fit of rage. Been there with other things, so done that (sometimes good, sometimes bad). Had an Aircraft Mechanic buddy launch a wrench across a hangar under those circumstances once (no one hit, but sure woke up a few on the other side of the hangar)
Dorman Parts: Because it's either us, or you make your own.
A little off topic but how many years do you suggest replacing an Interstate brand car battery? We live in Utah with hot summers and cold winters. See 4-8 years as the recommended duration. Thank you
CAN'T WAIT
I was gonna call NAPA and ask them why it wasn't on
Stellantis announced this week that the Chrysler Pacifica is the Last Remaining Chrysler vehicle still being Manufactured and Sales were down 40% in 3rd Quarter. 🤔🤪
Here in Michigan when those pesky parking brakes start falling apart and dragging the drum, they just go away and stay away.
I replace the front pads and rotors every 40 K on my 2000 Grand Cherokee,the rears and parking brakes lasted to 120000. Go figure!
Okay , lets take a break from what we were doing and see whats up with the brakes on this Jeep! Lets do this!
I've owned a Jeep once. Never again would I buy one of those money pits!
Neighbor bought a used one for his high school son and to take to college spent almost 6 grand to make it right and the kid had it for two years dropped it off and told his dad to sell it. Didn’t get his money out of it.
What year? After 05 it's a SUV not a Jeep.
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I can’t tell you how many times I had to work on my 97 TJ “toy.” Literally never took it off road but was constantly fixing things on it.
@@sonichedgehog8723I’ve said the same thing. Why in God’s name anybody buys them is beyond me. It’s a soccer mom ride now.
"it gets real stupid, real fast", well its a jeep thing!
i had a jeep like that that i upgraded the rear axle shafts, the bearings were already pressed on, it was a simple swap and i dont remember having an issue with the backing plate.
I got a horrible question. Know someone that wants to change the old drum setup on an old Chevelle and I'm against it as it stops fine as it is. He's hard headed though.
I've had others do it before and they never was satisfied with the results as it was home jobs. With my experience, I'm guessing that you would probably need to change the brake lines for proper fluid flow, probably change the proportion valve, and maybe the master cylinder too?
I'm just trying to prepare this fella for the headache his in for. Any experience with drum to disk swaps? Slappimg the parts on is a piece of cake, but the tricky part is getting that proper stop again. Any thoughts would be cool, thanks.
Funny I just did my parking break shoes and hardware ,taking out the old rotor was a pain and could be the reason the plate was bent for that fellow .i was able to change everything without removing the shaft just need like 10 hands with 7 fingers each 😢
The parking break on the JK Wranglers is notoriously horrible. I don't even use mine anymore.
I replaced the parking brake shoes on a 2007 Wrangler Jk. The double springs are not easy to put on. The original Mopar springs measured 5.25:inches in length. The replacement spring with any of the replacement kits, measure 4.25 inches , making it more difficult to stretch. I bought a Mopar spring kit; they measured 5 inches. I used the Mopar kit springs, but almost used the old springs ,since they were not rusted. I did this without pulling the axel. I had 113 thousand miles on the original shoes, they were missing most of the shoe material . I bought this Jeep used. Someone over adjusted the shoes. The other side was good and not worn. You have to adjust the brake shoes before you attach the caliper. The engineer who designed this , should go back to school, especially with the double springs. Amazingly the Jeep Manual showed one spring. Go figure. Not an easy job.
Thanks
"Eric's Gimme-a-brake and repair".
Might be a big ask, but a fella over here sure does miss a WUW every now and again.
When stuff gets nasty you call Mr. O.