Very similar findings. They feel quite natural and normal compared to many of the others, but perform up there with the best. I think they are quite versatile and a no-brainer for a super shoe being used for more in the 5k-half range. They are up in my top tier with the Vaporfly Next%, Metaspeed Sky, and RC Elite V2. I was nailing 1k repeats around 5k pace and cut down to 3:03/k in them and they felt great. They are a bit more unassuming but really deliver on the paces. My 15:56 solo road 5k time trial in June was in the Vaporfly Next%. I'm racing a 5k this weekend and was thinking of taking out the Pumas for it.
Definitely sounds like we've had a similar experience! Be interested to hear how the 5K goes if you opt for the Puma. It's a shoe I plan to keep using for sure, especially through winter racing thanks to the grip.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Managed to pick up this shoe with one of Puma's discount codes. Will be using this shoe for my upcoming marathon. I enjoy its ride, lightness and speed.
@@marcuslockhart4610 yes, direct from Puma UK when they had stock. It sold out quickly at the time but I hear they're bringing back more stock in Oct. Could be just a rumour.
I've done 5k time trials in most Carbon racers, tbh the difference between those in the top tier is only marginal. From my personal experience the fastest were the Adios Pro (1st version), Vaporfly Next% (V1), and the Asics Metaspeed Sky. I would put the Saucony Endorphin Pro and Puma Deviate Nitro Elite in the 2nd tier The New Balance RC Elite 2 was slower at shorter distances however it was the most comfortable shoe which makes it appealing for a marathon
Yep I agree over 5K you're really not going to see much difference between the top carbon shoes, it's more over the longer events where the pros and cons of each start to show
@Leon Al do you believe that Adios Pro is faster than Metaspeed Sky? I'm impressed to read it. For me Metaspeed is the most snappy and comfy Carbon Plated shoe. Not far ara Vaporfly Next in terms of speed and finally in third position the Adios Pro that are more natural on transition and on feeling.
@@isidrotormogarcia4879 For my running mechanics the Adios Pro 1 is the fastest, with the Next% and Metaspeed Sky only slightly behind. To put things into context I have a lean muscular built (not Kipchoge skinny type) so I'm probably able to activate the energy rods relatively efficiently, I also prefer the slightly firmer ride of the Adios which results in faster cadence
@@leonal2680 very interesting. Adios have a silent and smooth ride and is one of my favourite shoes. Never compete with Adios but I decided for your comment that I give the first opportunity at these shoes 😀😉
I got a pair of Deviate Nitro Elites at a very decent price and I am impressed. Still not sure if it will become my long distance racer (the Adios Pro v1 occupies that spot), but the Puma is somewhere between today's carbon racers and the upcoming lower stack models like the Takumi Sen 8 or the mystical Streakfly. A perfect 5k to HM racer at just 211g in a US 11.5, less than my VFN%.
This shoe is like a magical unicorn....can't find it anywhere. Doesn't help that it was released while I was working on my covid-25 training plan. :/ Great review!
That's pretty much like reviewing a concept car for everyday use 😀. I've never seen that shoe available for sale, not in France , not in the UK, not even in Germany and that's where Puma is ...
I just purchased a pair US 10.5 for RM899 / £166 from one of the Puma boutiques in Penang, Malaysia. Out of curiosity of scarcity, i asked the GM whether the premium DNE model was readily available in every Puma boutique in Malaysia. Since I was the only customer, he agreed and checked the system on his PC .No surprises, he replied every size of the model even the halves were available in every store. No such thing as low stock anywhere or on the waiting list excuses.Perhaps the Puma brand isn't popular with serious runners. But seriously ,if you happen to visit Malaysia for a holiday, I wouldn't be surprise if you buy a couple of pairs for your buddies before leaving....😜
Can't believe I actually got this for $70. I bought 2 pairs straightaway. The Deviate Elite 2 is still.not yet available here. Do you think this can go the marathon distance for for a 3:15-3:20hrs runner? Tq
Would you say with the puma grip this makes a good wet weather racer ? I noticed in the Nike next % tempo it was very low grip on wet slick surfaces so I’m guessing the alphafly will be the same ? The puma grip on my every day training shoe the puma Velocity NITRO are very grippy
Yeah I rate the Elite as a good option for wet roads. It doesn’t have as good grip as the Velocity, but it’s impressive for a super shoe. The Alphafly is pretty ok I’ve found though, I ran a race where it was completely submerged in a puddle three times and been fine.
Hi great video what do you think of the carbon xs ones hokas I have them and can't decide if there great for me wondered if some like the pumas and other carbon shoes are better 😉
i am a uk9.5 in nike vaporfly 2 but not run in pumas before. would you suggest going up half a size - uk10 - in these? can't find the uk9.5 anywhere. many thanks
I have been running in Vibram barefoot this last year, now that i have started working on speed and registered in few races to come. Decided to get me a pair of Puma Deviate Nitro Elite. UK8 size fits me well in length but toebox seems a bit tight ( can see my pinky toe popping out), is it because m used to vibrams or its supposed to fir tight ? does it loosen up post few runs ? need help to decide before I return the product or start using
The toe box should always be very thick materials of any shoes let no matter which ever company be it so the customers can use it for a good time period in daily life use and the shoes dnt go out of shape thioridazine my opinion
Yeah can be very frustrating, Puma barely pushed the Elite at all here in the UK at first. Sure it will be easier to get in future, but always a shame when something new comes along and is this hard to get
I just used these for the first time on a 30 mins @ Zone 2 and they worked really well. Very comfortable and my best results yet.
Very similar findings. They feel quite natural and normal compared to many of the others, but perform up there with the best. I think they are quite versatile and a no-brainer for a super shoe being used for more in the 5k-half range. They are up in my top tier with the Vaporfly Next%, Metaspeed Sky, and RC Elite V2. I was nailing 1k repeats around 5k pace and cut down to 3:03/k in them and they felt great. They are a bit more unassuming but really deliver on the paces.
My 15:56 solo road 5k time trial in June was in the Vaporfly Next%. I'm racing a 5k this weekend and was thinking of taking out the Pumas for it.
Definitely sounds like we've had a similar experience! Be interested to hear how the 5K goes if you opt for the Puma. It's a shoe I plan to keep using for sure, especially through winter racing thanks to the grip.
Im impressed from the amount of dirt you collect from a simple run
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. Managed to pick up this shoe with one of Puma's discount codes. Will be using this shoe for my upcoming marathon. I enjoy its ride, lightness and speed.
Did you get them online? If so what website?
@@marcuslockhart4610 yes, direct from Puma UK when they had stock. It sold out quickly at the time but I hear they're bringing back more stock in Oct. Could be just a rumour.
Thank you for another great review Nick. 👍🏻🙏🏻
I've done 5k time trials in most Carbon racers, tbh the difference between those in the top tier is only marginal. From my personal experience the fastest were the Adios Pro (1st version), Vaporfly Next% (V1), and the Asics Metaspeed Sky.
I would put the Saucony Endorphin Pro and Puma Deviate Nitro Elite in the 2nd tier
The New Balance RC Elite 2 was slower at shorter distances however it was the most comfortable shoe which makes it appealing for a marathon
Yep I agree over 5K you're really not going to see much difference between the top carbon shoes, it's more over the longer events where the pros and cons of each start to show
They reduce fatigue in the lower leg, so the incremental benefits are more likely to show at longer distances when fatigue might impact.
@Leon Al do you believe that Adios Pro is faster than Metaspeed Sky? I'm impressed to read it. For me Metaspeed is the most snappy and comfy Carbon Plated shoe. Not far ara Vaporfly Next in terms of speed and finally in third position the Adios Pro that are more natural on transition and on feeling.
@@isidrotormogarcia4879 For my running mechanics the Adios Pro 1 is the fastest, with the Next% and Metaspeed Sky only slightly behind. To put things into context I have a lean muscular built (not Kipchoge skinny type) so I'm probably able to activate the energy rods relatively efficiently, I also prefer the slightly firmer ride of the Adios which results in faster cadence
@@leonal2680 very interesting. Adios have a silent and smooth ride and is one of my favourite shoes. Never compete with Adios but I decided for your comment that I give the first opportunity at these shoes 😀😉
Ordered a pair recently from Start Fitness for $135...can't wait to run in them. Thank you for the review NIck.
I got a pair of Deviate Nitro Elites at a very decent price and I am impressed. Still not sure if it will become my long distance racer (the Adios Pro v1 occupies that spot), but the Puma is somewhere between today's carbon racers and the upcoming lower stack models like the Takumi Sen 8 or the mystical Streakfly. A perfect 5k to HM racer at just 211g in a US 11.5, less than my VFN%.
This shoe is like a magical unicorn....can't find it anywhere. Doesn't help that it was released while I was working on my covid-25 training plan. :/
Great review!
Thanks! Certainly hard to get hold of, though some rumours of more stock in October
Big up 20k Run Testers 40k next target
Haha, thanks!
@@TheRunTesters you should do a 20k run test
That's pretty much like reviewing a concept car for everyday use 😀. I've never seen that shoe available for sale, not in France , not in the UK, not even in Germany and that's where Puma is ...
I just purchased a pair US 10.5 for RM899 / £166 from one of the Puma boutiques in Penang, Malaysia. Out of curiosity of scarcity, i asked the GM whether the premium DNE model was readily available in every Puma boutique in Malaysia. Since I was the only customer, he agreed and checked the system on his PC .No surprises, he replied every size of the model even the halves were available in every store. No such thing as low stock anywhere or on the waiting list excuses.Perhaps the Puma brand isn't popular with serious runners. But seriously ,if you happen to visit Malaysia for a holiday, I wouldn't be surprise if you buy a couple of pairs for your buddies before leaving....😜
£85 now, looking forward to running in them later
Late to comment but got these from Start fitness with a club discount code for less than £80 including delivery 👍🏻
Finally snag one in... 2022. 😅 They're good!
These are on sale for £85 at the moment on start fitness ...are they a no brainer at that price even if you just use them for speed days?!
Did you pick up a pair of these? If so, how have you found them?
Can't believe I actually got this for $70. I bought 2 pairs straightaway. The Deviate Elite 2 is still.not yet available here. Do you think this can go the marathon distance for for a 3:15-3:20hrs runner? Tq
Would you say with the puma grip this makes a good wet weather racer ? I noticed in the Nike next % tempo it was very low grip on wet slick surfaces so I’m guessing the alphafly will be the same ?
The puma grip on my every day training shoe the puma Velocity NITRO are very grippy
Yeah I rate the Elite as a good option for wet roads. It doesn’t have as good grip as the Velocity, but it’s impressive for a super shoe. The Alphafly is pretty ok I’ve found though, I ran a race where it was completely submerged in a puddle three times and been fine.
Hi great video what do you think of the carbon xs ones hokas I have them and can't decide if there great for me wondered if some like the pumas and other carbon shoes are better 😉
Just picked these up at the outlet for $45 budget tempo shoes lol
Still don't fully get how they can make a shoe with so much rubber for such low weight...
i am a uk9.5 in nike vaporfly 2 but not run in pumas before. would you suggest going up half a size - uk10 - in these? can't find the uk9.5 anywhere. many thanks
Hi! I run in the same size in the Vaporfly 2 and the Puma Elite, but you could prob go up half a size in the in the Puma without it being a problem.
Hi, my PB in 10k is 45:03 and in HM its 1:47:37....do u think i should try this elite model to improve my timing??
Hello From Myanmar !!!
I have been running in Vibram barefoot this last year, now that i have started working on speed and registered in few races to come. Decided to get me a pair of Puma Deviate Nitro Elite. UK8 size fits me well in length but toebox seems a bit tight ( can see my pinky toe popping out), is it because m used to vibrams or its supposed to fir tight ? does it loosen up post few runs ? need help to decide before I return the product or start using
Just found these for £129.99 in the uk. That sounds like a good deal
£85
The toe box should always be very thick materials of any shoes let no matter which ever company be it so the customers can use it for a good time period in daily life use and the shoes dnt go out of shape thioridazine my opinion
These are completely unavailable in Mens sizes in the US
Did your cat approve of them too? What was her 5k time? :P
Grip is no where near as good as the velocity nitro 2 or deviate nitro 2
Most useless shoe of 2021 when puma manufactures only 10pieces of each size and sells out in 3 days
True. Been trying to find a pair in my size here in the UK for months.
True. No Puma nitro line at all even at the Puma specialist...
Yeah can be very frustrating, Puma barely pushed the Elite at all here in the UK at first. Sure it will be easier to get in future, but always a shame when something new comes along and is this hard to get
Lol why make a shoe that is impossible to get 😜. This shoe is never available. Seems like only testers can get these.
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