When you said, "Bring the ultimate counter" for Montagne, I thought you were gonna say Oryx. Oryx can counter any shield operator as he can push them down and instantly kill them afterwards. Clash is basically a pain in the ass for any attackers as the only way to counter her is by pushing her or bring Thatcher or operators that have the EMP Grenade.
Capitao is actually a really underrated counter to clash as well while also being very safe as you don't need to go up and push the clash. It does a ton of damage and using both will most likely kill her and if she tries running you can easily shoot her
Or just frag grenade her? Everytime I’ve run into a clash I’ve managed to pull the pin off my grenade far away from them to hear it and chuck it at them when it’s cooked, they always die or get knocked at least
There are two types of warden mains: the virgin bronze dudes that rin the 1.5 MPX and die in 3 seconds or the based champions that runs the M590 naked and carry your whole team.
To counter jackal you can also pick vigil or mute as mute if you ben founded by jackal go near a jammer as vigil its the same as mute but you need to use vigils ability
The thing is, you can't really "counter" Attackers, so much as you can pre-empt, or prepare for them. Still, noce solid video! And for those curious! The score, including offhand mentions and implied comments. Discounting specific strats and secondary gadgets because I'm lazy. Smoke: 4 Mute: 7 Castle: 0 Pulse: 3 Doc: 0 Rook: 0 Kapkan: 7 Tachanka: 3 Jager: 4 Bandit: 3 Frost: 6 Valkyrie: 3 Caveira: 1 Echo: 0 Mira: 1 Lesion: 5 Ela: 5 Vigil: 1 Maestro: 0 Alibi: 0 Clash: 1 Kaid: 2 Mozzie: 2 Warden: 4 Goyo: 2 Wamai: 4 Oryx: 0 Melusi: 4 Aruni: 1 Thunderbird: 0 Thorn: 5 Azami: 1 Solis: 6 Fenrir: 3 Top 5: Mute, Kapkan, Frost, Solis, Lesion. Safe to say, NOT an optimal team. The main issue is, no matter what Efenders you pick, the Attackers can react to it. So my line-up, if I don’t know what site I'll get (and none of my picks are banned) Mute: Intel Denial, and secondary wall denial. Kaid: Walland hatch denial, depending on site Mira: Intel, and can hold off a rush if properly set up. Lesion: Traps can alert teammates of a push while slowing it down, and he can roam or flank if needed. Rook: Safety pick. Extra health against non-headshots, and can keep his teammates on their feet. Perfect team? No. But a solod start.
Solis is way better then i thought she was lol. I low-key never thought she could see more then drones with her ability which is dumbasf now that i think of it. Might have to cop her next
I use kali as a medium range attacker that opens up barricades, castles, and any form of deployable utility. I found that this can also destroy frost mats especially usefully and wins gunfights if you are waiting for them to swing and know where they are going to show up. quick disclaimer I dont main cali I just find it fun to one shot kill ops when I really feel lazy to try in casual. I think kali gets way to much hate and playing golden gun or snipers only will probably change that sentiment, but she's still pretty ass in literally every other definition of the word. Also echo = goat.
Why are people always wrong about vigil he is still immune to his gadget if he moves and deactivates it he will still be pinged but as long as it's on you will not
yeah im surprised he didnt test it and jumped on the hate train like everyone else, with grim and lion you are still immune but drones can see you glitching like nook when she shoots
Why people keep spreading the false information about Vigil not being able to counter Lion's scan anymore? He still can do it, you won't get pinged by it, all that will happen is that you'll glitch on cams if some attacker is watching you during the scan.
Feel like you made this guide for new or low elo players, changing your playstyle is how you counter most agents especially at higher ranks. Yolo rolling rock paper scissors to potentially gimmick kills isn't consistent or how you win games. Although most of your tips were helpful, so many of them were just obvious (EX: everytime you mention solis). Pls don't hate the video, but truly felt like it lacked the depth for applicable advice. For Example: the way to counter Iana is not playing vigil, mute, or solis when they spam Iana on attack, you counter Iana by hearing her audio que and then playing forward to destroy her drone which gives useless information off her utility. Iana is the most played attacker so giving up an important defender (Like smoke, warden, kaid, aruni, etc etc etc) every round to counter her is terrible advice for winning defensive rounds.
You can tell solis is balanced when she hard counters half of them
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Bro her and Mute are absolutely insane for countering people.
@@Dino_Dino42 same with thatcher
I mean she’s just IQ on defense.
I feel like warden and iana need a nerf while Blackbeard needs a buff, like at least 20 shots per rifle shield
Mute and Solis are the best counters in the game no cap they hard counter most of the attackers by themselves
Yeah its actually crazy how strong they are
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When you said, "Bring the ultimate counter" for Montagne, I thought you were gonna say Oryx.
Oryx can counter any shield operator as he can push them down and instantly kill them afterwards.
Clash is basically a pain in the ass for any attackers as the only way to counter her is by pushing her or bring Thatcher or operators that have the EMP Grenade.
Capitao is actually a really underrated counter to clash as well while also being very safe as you don't need to go up and push the clash. It does a ton of damage and using both will most likely kill her and if she tries running you can easily shoot her
Or just frag grenade her? Everytime I’ve run into a clash I’ve managed to pull the pin off my grenade far away from them to hear it and chuck it at them when it’s cooked, they always die or get knocked at least
A monty plays with a team, Clash is better in that case
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Vigil still bypasses the lion scan, right? I just did that a few times in a ranked game yesterday and i'm sure it worked.
you can also shoot ying candelas i know its hard if they are heavy pushing or if they have a short duration
Yeah but you'd have to be a real aim God to take advantage of this
@@BMP 100% but not many people know about and it can save you if u can hit it
"All you need to do to counter glaz is pick warden"
My teammate picking warden then immediately dying while spawnpeaking
There are two types of warden mains: the virgin bronze dudes that rin the 1.5 MPX and die in 3 seconds or the based champions that runs the M590 naked and carry your whole team.
I already know this is going to be a good vid
You already know 🔥
@@BMPthis was useful as hell
Let’s goooo
He forgot to mention Oryx as a hard counter against shields always fun knocking people on their ass
Since i started using a stretched aspect ratio, real life feels so weird and tall
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Would oryx not be a good counter for the first 2 shields?
Kind of, you can actually melee oryx while he is dashing at you. So a good shield player will just kill you.
i swear vigil still ignores lion’s scan when his gadget is active . literally happened me tons of times while playing vigil this season
He still does yea
i think you get pinged once when you activate it during the scan or during the countdown before the scan. I could be wrong tho
I can’t believe you didn’t mention warden as a counter to blitz, literally the go to blitz counter
To counter jackal you can also pick vigil or mute as mute if you ben founded by jackal go near a jammer as vigil its the same as mute but you need to use vigils ability
Lets go
"their unique gadget"
for some reason I remember blackbeard, how ironic.
For all shields you can use oryx and dash into shields and you will stun them on the ground and you can kill them
Fighting osa if you have a faster reaction time, you cam just shooy her forhead when she pops up
The thing is, you can't really "counter" Attackers, so much as you can pre-empt, or prepare for them. Still, noce solid video!
And for those curious!
The score, including offhand mentions and implied comments. Discounting specific strats and secondary gadgets because I'm lazy.
Smoke: 4
Mute: 7
Castle: 0
Pulse: 3
Doc: 0
Rook: 0
Kapkan: 7
Tachanka: 3
Jager: 4
Bandit: 3
Frost: 6
Valkyrie: 3
Caveira: 1
Echo: 0
Mira: 1
Lesion: 5
Ela: 5
Vigil: 1
Maestro: 0
Alibi: 0
Clash: 1
Kaid: 2
Mozzie: 2
Warden: 4
Goyo: 2
Wamai: 4
Oryx: 0
Melusi: 4
Aruni: 1
Thunderbird: 0
Thorn: 5
Azami: 1
Solis: 6
Fenrir: 3
Top 5: Mute, Kapkan, Frost, Solis, Lesion.
Safe to say, NOT an optimal team.
The main issue is, no matter what Efenders you pick, the Attackers can react to it.
So my line-up, if I don’t know what site I'll get (and none of my picks are banned)
Mute: Intel Denial, and secondary wall denial.
Kaid: Walland hatch denial, depending on site
Mira: Intel, and can hold off a rush if properly set up.
Lesion: Traps can alert teammates of a push while slowing it down, and he can roam or flank if needed.
Rook: Safety pick. Extra health against non-headshots, and can keep his teammates on their feet.
Perfect team? No. But a solod start.
Great thumbnail man
Clipse is the GOAT
Solis is way better then i thought she was lol. I low-key never thought she could see more then drones with her ability which is dumbasf now that i think of it. Might have to cop her next
I use kali as a medium range attacker that opens up barricades, castles, and any form of deployable utility. I found that this can also destroy frost mats especially usefully and wins gunfights if you are waiting for them to swing and know where they are going to show up. quick disclaimer I dont main cali I just find it fun to one shot kill ops when I really feel lazy to try in casual. I think kali gets way to much hate and playing golden gun or snipers only will probably change that sentiment, but she's still pretty ass in literally every other definition of the word. Also echo = goat.
I’d rather run hibana because she can open so much but leaving execute the ace to open a large hole
Why are people always wrong about vigil he is still immune to his gadget if he moves and deactivates it he will still be pinged but as long as it's on you will not
right
I was so confused when he said vigil could be detected. As long as you have your ability active while they are scanning, he won't be detected
As long as vigil's gadget is active, he can counter lion
yea im pretty sure that he meant that u can see a blur on cams if vigil has his ability on during the lion scan but tbh hes still a good counter
helpful as always
mute can counter jackals ability if he is using his scanner within the range of mute jammer
vigil is still able to move through lion scans
slap that acog on bosg and beam that glaz/kali, that's my counter
Gonna need the defender vid
Mute counters lion. As long as you are in its range you wont be detected
you know solis is op if half the answers to these are pick solis technically more if u count impact tricking
0:01 he said 69 lol
nice number ubi
I knew this comment was coming
Lesion is also a good counter for Monty
Yeah that is another good way to deal with him
specially now with the rework, if monty doesnt take out the needle quick he will take a lot of damage
I used vigil today and I got scanned but still was able to move with my gadget I don’t think that nerf made it to main
Glaz got 0 counters when had a warden ever used their gadget?
Saw-lis
When is the new site setup video coming out? If you are gonna make one
12:20 he still can he just lags on cams
you can still counter leon with vigil the only thing that vigil got nerfed on was glitch whenever leon scan while you have your gadget up and moving
yeah im surprised he didnt test it and jumped on the hate train like everyone else, with grim and lion you are still immune but drones can see you glitching like nook when she shoots
vigil can bypass lion scans wym💀
Why people keep spreading the false information about Vigil not being able to counter Lion's scan anymore?
He still can do it, you won't get pinged by it, all that will happen is that you'll glitch on cams if some attacker is watching you during the scan.
How do i counter my dad leaving 😢
Unfortunate
Oryx is the best counter for monti or any shield
Just a reminder 7:51
blitz just shoot his toes
vigil is still able to counter lion
Feel like you made this guide for new or low elo players, changing your playstyle is how you counter most agents especially at higher ranks. Yolo rolling rock paper scissors to potentially gimmick kills isn't consistent or how you win games. Although most of your tips were helpful, so many of them were just obvious (EX: everytime you mention solis). Pls don't hate the video, but truly felt like it lacked the depth for applicable advice.
For Example: the way to counter Iana is not playing vigil, mute, or solis when they spam Iana on attack, you counter Iana by hearing her audio que and then playing forward to destroy her drone which gives useless information off her utility. Iana is the most played attacker so giving up an important defender (Like smoke, warden, kaid, aruni, etc etc etc) every round to counter her is terrible advice for winning defensive rounds.
So basically use Solis
Opinion on fuze?
vigil still counters lion
Vigil can still counter lion
Solis counters Dinka and lion
So-lis not salis lmao
Haha 69 operators
69 operators...
Bro stop saying Solis like that
I think solis cant counter any operator😅
the answer is mute
Did someone say 69
Your so amazing for using the correct pronouns for sens w 😂
i watched this entire video even tho im a 5 year siege player lol