Or I keep getting "Select all images with motorcycles", then it shows me nothing but scooters, and I don't click the scooters, and it tells me I'm wrong. FFS.
At over 7 minutes, perhaps the longest single question I have ever heard in an interview... And thank you for not interrupting Mary during her reply. I look forward to the whole interview.
Welp. These are questions that are really new to Psychology. Were crossing a new era here. AND YOURE ALONG FOR THE RIDE Also, it was not a long question, but laying down foundations to the questions
I don't see the need to point out the length of the question, I think most of us can surmise what Dr. Peterson is doing. To me, he is demonstrating respect for his guest and the content of the ideas she puts forth, and for his audience. From one of your first followers, thank you for the work you do, Dr. Peterson.
I love you, Dr. Peterson, honestly and no joke. But her ability to sit quietly and patiently wait for you to actually ask your question is truly inspiring!
As a Christian I understand the dissenters of transhumanism. But as a disabled person I see the benefits. Also, where is this line drawn? Does my power wheelchair border on transhumanistic technology? What about the metal rods and screws in my bones? What about technology such as cochlear implants, pacemakers, and nerve stimulators? This conversation, especially regarding disabled people, deserves much more nuance than it is typically given.
almost like the snake that enticed Eve to be free from God's rigid rules, only to fall from grace and be a slave to death. True freedom can only be found in face of the Lord.
Jordan should start a men's clothing line. I doubt there is much of a market for his "quilt" or "patchwork" suits, but there is a large unfulfilled market for his elegant, slightly "westernized" retro suits like the one in this video. They're reminiscent of late 19th and early 20th Century business attire. They reflect a simpler time where more formal but comfortable attire reflected respect for a wearer's respectful cultural and social values. I personally would be proud to wear suits and other men's garments that carried a Jordan B. Peterson label. The state of dress that passes for appropriate business attire these days is appalling. Jordan's style expresses a seriousness and formality apropos of his influential position in life and the importance of his message. I say bring back the power suit by Dr. Jordan Peterson! I'll be a happy customer.
This year's challenges will undoubtedly be more difficult. Looking back, I realized that I was so focused with my portfolio that I made disastrous financial decisions for the entire preceding year. I had to pick between increasing my investments and purchasing a house. After choosing to sell my investments, I discovered that the property I had purchased required more maintenance than I had anticipated. Trying to find out how much longer I can take this is becoming increasingly difficult.
Invest in companies that provide current cash flows to diversify your portfolio. I hired a planner at the end of 2023 to enhance my portfolio, and in the last ten months, I've made profits in over fifty thousand different marketplaces. Should 2023 teach us anything, it's that luck doesn't last forever. Even in times of abundance, we should put in more effort to prepare for the worst case scenario
How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.
As a mother of twins(one of them with severe disability) I'm so grateful for the contraception, other wise it would be the end of my life Technology it's just a tool it all depends how it's used, it can be for good and for 😔
The biggest problem might be technology interferes with natural hierarchies and inter-dependent relationships. And motivation and biological reward. Take men and women: I support a woman's right to chose. In nature the female always gets the choice, who to breed with. I'm not arguing with Mother Nature. She rules. But: my body, my choice pretends the sexual equation has nothing to do with men, or the nature of the relationship & commitment to the opposite sex. I think that logic is flawed. For instance: Since Roe vs. Wade, about 73 million abortions. But the "Morning After Pill" was about 225 Million. Marriage and human pair bonding depends on having children. No point, otherwise. To me, the main damage is, men have undergone a massive disincentive program, not to mate, not to act morally, not to marry, not to form families. This profound mating difference between the sexes wasn't even noticed by feminists. The feminist mating model: She avoids family during her 20s, when she evolved to have a family. Instead she focusses on her own education and economic advantage and advancement, competes with men, while trying out a variety of sexual partners. Then when she approaches 30, having used up much of the best and prettiest, youngest years on a variety of men, she finds a man and "settles down". I think she gives him a bad mating deal. And when people marry late in life, they actually can't give someone, their life. They can't make it a lifetime commitment, for the obvious reason, they have already used up a good part of their actually lifetime. You can't give away, what you already used up. This is more true for women, than men, for obvious biological reasons. The problem is, 50% of American children are now born to single moms. So if you marry her, you enslave yourself as man, economically enslave yourself, to pay the bills, spend your life energy, work every day, paying for another man's child. This goes against most men's perception of what they want, goes against male biological interest. It's a bad biological deal, for men. It interferes with natural hierarchy and mutual inter-dependence. Mating, trust between the sexes is plunging. The birth rate is plunging. Well, it's no wonder. We evolved for mutual inter-dependence between the genders, with women producing offspring, when young. We threw that out. Then we gave women the vote. Naturally women voted in governments, mostly left wing, where the state became the Surrogate Husband financially, for the woman. How is that turning out? It's an experiment. This experiment was already done, on black Americans. Starting in the 1960, we brought in The Great Society, which was cash to black women with children. Johnson did it, to get the black vote. The Great Society was a pioneer version of Black Lives Matter. At that time, black American family life was stable, despite the racism. About 80% of black homes had dads in them. Then we payed money to black single moms, incentivizing black women to not form families. Then, the fatherless black rate went from 20% to 80%...effectively replacing the black man, in the home, with disastrous social consequences. Why? This interfered with natural human inter-dependence, adding a new man into the black family. Technology doesn't change human nature. It can just interfere with natural patterns that are time tested, workable.
I don't agree with the conclusion of the video, but I do appreciate the insight. I'm not certain the use of Transhumanism in the title is actually appropriate for the content of the dialog here. Transhumanism doesn't merely extend to sexual freedoms and personal liberties that apparently devolve into hedonistic debauchery. The glasses you wear, the clothing that is on you, the shoes that carry the burden of your gait. Those are all part of the umbrella that is Transhumanism. The full utilization of our creativity to better actualize our desired manifestations. We are not a simple thing, nor is the history of our species a short one. Our journey to this very moment began with purpose over 3,000,000 years ago. When the sapient gained fire, our journey to this point was one of many inevitable destinations. A mind-bending plethora of possibilities await us on the razors edge of tomorrow's unknowns. We are human, we sit still for nothing. No path not travelled, no mountain not climbed, no adventure not taken. I do not know what our future holds, but I got a clue about the possible outcomes.. Star Trek, Bladerunner, or Mad Max / The Postman. Potiental utopia, dystopia, or civilization collapse & reset. My hope is for Star Trek, but my gut says Bladerunner, and my heart fears a collapse of civilization. Who knows. I got Carl Sagan in my heart as a guiding principle, and that gives me enough hope for our future.
Science can improve or worsen some human situations, but the “nature”? The work says by itself “nature”. Would be the same thing of trying to change man to woman. We can not play God. Every time men try to do that, something ends in a tragedy.
Humans are nothing more than simple chemistry and physics. It is impossible to break the laws of nature, as any law that can be broken is merely a law of the mind. Nature has no will, no intention, no idea of right and wrong. Humanity has been playing God since the first civilizations rose, we have sought to overcome the limits of our humanity. Our power to adapt and to understand has propelled us to greatness, why should we stop, why should we allow ourselves to suffer when all that stands between us and an incredible advancement is our own humility?
It seems that every modern 'solution' to perceived 'problems' in nature - whether our own, or nature as a whole - compounds the problem and creates instability further along the chain in one way or another, which calls for another 'solution', and on and on it goes. If we can embrace our nature and our role within nature, abiding its wisdom and simply dancing to the tune nature plays - rather than attempting to overthrow it and have it play ours - we'd have a lot less confusion and separation with what many feel is missing in our lives.
Jordan Peterson needs to interview Nancy Pearcey - she has done extensive research into the changes to society and male and female roles as a result of the industrial revolution. Her latest book is called the Toxic War on Masculinity. She is brilliant.
To me it’s interesting to see using the term of “love child” for the fruits of often just one night stand out & not for the ones that are the fruits of long life intimate & caring relationship , ( apparently this kind of fruits are boring to some & to them «life is too short to be spent in boredom»! )
@@SmokeyLove-vt4xd No , but I am open to change my mind. Although I just don't like people taking the credit away from feminism, obviously once something has used up all the good ethos it was riding on we can only ever be left with it's corruption or corrupt parts. It was always suspect ,even with it's name, but we can't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Dearest Dr. Peterson, I am SO happy you invited Mary on the podcast. I’ve been longing for you to do ever since I saw and enjoyed her conversation with Tammy. It’s taking me such ages to finish your interview with Elon because it is so rich and I want to take it in, and I’m busier than a one-armed paper hanger with the kids home on vacation and needing to be fed quite constantly, and taken for walks and swims and adventures, but I will eventually finish and share thoughts. For now, here is a gentle hug And Ruth Anne’s love.
I see some folks here upset you occasionally interrupt people you talk to. You can interrupt me any time you like if we ever speak and if that's all your opposition has in the grievance department I'd say that's perfectly acceptable. Thank you Mr Peterson for all you do and have done for PEOPLE!
Dear Doctor @JordanBPeterson , I have an autoimmune disease that makes me lose weight because it affects my gut. I see some of the benefits you mention here are for losing weight, do you ever saw people gaining weight instead? or do you have any testimonies of people who had spondylosis arthritis to improve with this diet? Your feedback here would be life changing. Thank you in advance.
She absolutely is, but you would be wrong to think that she makes any difference in the attitudes of the audience listening to her. She is one among a small elite of watchdogs of conservative values who are excellent barkers, but who bark to the pack and that's it. Useful to resist wokism, sure, but powerless to turn back the tide on the ubiquitous desire of ordinary persons for sexual freedom and availability of divorce, birth control and abortion.
Question! What has svg sports videos and entertainment, have to do with your recent interview with elon musk? There has been a copyright strike by that channel against the interview. I can't understand why though. What part of it has anything to do with svg and what they do in the sports industry? I'm confused. The video i was watching partway through was removed, however I have found another. Who owns the video rights, (I'm assuming that would be you), and is this going to be uploaded to your channel?
Dr. Peterson, I would like to apologize for saying a rude movie line from Major Payne to you the other day. Lol...I think you are brilliant and I have been listening to your lectures for a while and they are often very deep but accurate even if it takes a little longer to understand the fact while I am learning many things especially psychology. I had 36 credits and I struggled with the last psych course on but , was in nursing school as a single father. I guess I hear you always holding women up on a pedestal and I had an ex whom abandoned our kids when I was at the University and a mother whom began abusing me at age 4. Etc. Don't misunderstand me...I love women... now I realize that I have never been in a healthy relationship and I am finding out that I have ADHD and probably Autism. Anyway, I apologize. I hope you have a great day and I look forward to studying your work. Have a blessed day.
Interesting snippet. I've thought for years and years, that the feminist movement surfaced because of a failure in men to accept the burden of leading the family, accepting their spouse as partner and equal, and being a role model for their children -- and I still believe this is basically correct. Now I'm considering the additional premise that lunatic narcissistic creeps encouraged the disastrous mandate of the modern feminist, allowing them to be even more abusive to those around them (or maybe become PM of a country).
Ultimately, everything comes back to God's plan. In the Catholic faith marriage and intimacy within marriage are sacred things. Sexual intimacy between a man and a woman leads to pregnancy which either leads to death by abortion, or single motherhood when the rules God put forth are abandoned. If you follow God's plan then intimacy and motherhood are sacred things meant to be respected and protected. After all, God didn't come to the world through a volcano, a tidal wave, and earthquake or bolt of lightening. He didn't arrive in a way that would frighten us, but He came as a baby, born to a woman, belonging to life and life belonged to Him, longing to love and be loved. He made him self small that we may draw near to Him and motherhood was an important part of that plan. Motherhood is sacred. The modernist left have turned intimacy from the sacred to the profane. They've made it a commodity.
But medicine is also technology. I’m glad there are such things as pacemakers for exsample that extend the life. Generalizing all technological changes of human nature as harmful in the end doesn’t seem to work for me.
There is an East african nomadic proverb that says, " The student who didn't study for the exam gets busy sharpening his pencil."This applies on when society ignores the moral codes that distinguish them from other mammals and gets busy just reasoning their mischievous ways.......
Yeah, we had the axe handling Temperance Movement. They had a real gripe and stopped alcohol for a little while. They made it more elicit and people wanted it more. Creating mafias and a lot of very drunk people in their wake. The opium was part of this history too. My mother was influenced by the Temperance Movement against alcohol. She was a little angry about my father's proclivities. He went into AA and started a lot of meetings in Levittown, NY. My mother would hit you on the behind with a wooden spoon. LOL! Women started to become lawyers and over time men in America changed. At one time there was no women in the public sphere. That barrier got smashed down for the better. Right? We don't want our daughters to be limited in any way. We give them free reign because that's how the person's talent comes out. They are deserving of the same ability to become an independent force of your own. Even supporting a man you love. Many women don't care at all that they make more than their husbands. Many people don't give this a second thought now. Sounds right, all the agrarian talk. All that evolutionary set up was right. The R strategist. No investment into the future. Bombing nature with humans. Bob Marley's father was an K strategist. That is our basic human cultures getting together in the 1800's. They started with the land surveying and ended up in an oil economy. It is the best piece of history I know. The film "There Will Be Blood" expresses this time period very well. My mother and father were K strategists. They gave me enough resources to thrive. Everyone got a certain amount of money and everyone went to school and graduate work and law for free. We have insurance policies for my death and I've designated my monies to go to the females that will have children. I guess we're all K strategists. You are linking the R strategist with psychopathy, sadism and I'm not sure they more than correlate with some cases. Theories are nice. Porn is no good. You'll poison yourself with this. Don't use pornography. The computer is a game changer. I am "me" plus "my computer and AI" system now. Pretty trippy. I'm so effective with this equipment. We're zooming into the future. What is going to happen next?
“We think technologizing ourselves will liberate us from some aspect of our nature. What in fact happens is that that aspect of our nature becomes opened up to commerce, and in the meantime our nature is unchanged”. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is not the way to better our nature. Read Dostoevsky.
The human body, male and female, within a range of individual variation, has an inherent design, in which consciousness and identity reside.The fundamental error is to assume that human consciousness/identity do not, within a range of individual variation, impose an inherent design for function and relationships, in effect, the truth which makes free.
I'm about to listen to this bit of the interview.. but there is something to the origins of humanity and technology itself. All tech came from the line of Cain apparently.. there's a lot to be said here. How intertwined is technology to our existence as a whole? It's only from a scientific perspective that we separate the reality of technology apart from our own. Just words for thought. Not all together obvious.
I'm about to listen to this bit of the interview.. but there is something to the origins of humanity that aligns with technology itself. All tech came from the line of Cain apparently.. there's a lot to be said here. How intertwined is technology to our existence as a whole? It's only from a scientific perspective that we separate the reality of modern technology apart from our own. Just words for thought. Not all together obvious.
DNA is no different than a computer code. We can be altered just like a machines into something better. Man will make himself in his own image finally.
It would be really interesting to hear your opinion on the traditional idea of natural law compared to diletic philosopy of Hegel and his ideas about natural law. I have been thinking about this a lot and it seems to tie into later marxist materialistic diletics and the idea of a post-human society. Slavoj Žižek wrote a book called ’Hegel in a wired Brain’. It seems that we are moving towards a singularity.
Hi Jordan, I want to share that, The Interview U did with Elon, I was watching this Morning, (Most Excellent and Raw Interview By the way) This video was on the Matt Pocius on Tesla Stock... Channel, It was almost 2 hrs long, Well I watched part of it, Than had went back to watch the rest, And It has been Blocked.... U had Some Great Questions, And Some Great answers...That some answers was Verbalized and the Non Verbalized Body talk answers sure said a whole lot as well 💥💯 Thank U Jordan 🔥❤️🔥
As the term of psychopath or now days on magazines more often term sociopath are word that even children know, the magnitude of these worst case scenarious of humas is still relatively low, but somehow yet increasing. But one very big common error that is still yhe one in power is that this is more common between men than woman. Here is where the common recerch is completely wrong as the psychopatic nor sosiopathic charathterictics aren't towards males nor women any differently. The reason why these cases are more reported among men is very simple. Women don't usually have the same physical abilities as men. As in most of the countries around the world, men usually serve in military, but here in Finland we have had to all those who want to proceed , get their low rank officer status or proceed to a professional soldier, they haveto take two tests. First one is no brainer as it is the IQ test, but the second way more difficult one is psyshological one, and no matter you got to your IQ, if you fail the latter one, you have no career in Finnish Army. And how this relates to this topic? Well, now that we have established an eligble amount of female applicants, these probabilities of harmful traits are on the same level between men and women and in some cases more common between women than men. This 'black painting' of men have florished now about 100 years, but the truth is, that in both sexes there are violent and dangerous persons. In fact all the tests show that women are more manipulating than men in all respects even in close frind ships and of course in marriage and other relationships like it. They usually like more money and wealth than men or at least appreciate it more. I think you Jordan peterson, as you already have in a sense 'rocked the boat' in various matters and sided this several times, not so high lighted , but anyway. Summa summarum: We may have gone from the dark 'Middle Ages' to modern 'computerized World and internet connections' , but in some beliefs and common attitudes, some are still in the dark, way way darker place of understanding than others. Sometimes when you meet a new person, be it a friend of yours but not known to you, or new classmate or person working on a same firm and a new one, we all start to figure out what this person is and this is because what seems to be something, doesn't quite satisfy all of us. The real tricks and traits are way below the surface, at least with reasonably smart people.
Here’s the thing: Peterson himself believes in the Hobbesian idea that “man is a wolf to his fellow man”. So how highly does Peterson himself actually think of human nature? Because if he doesn’t think of it highly, wouldn’t overcoming said human nature be a goal, by his own standards?
Watson, it's quite elementary... it's all about technologically-socially engineering a narcissistic society on all sides - ripe for warfare; the new and improved soddom and gammorah; imminent self-implosion. There is nothing new under the sun. - Holmes.
i downloaded it about 24 hours ago, i woke up and in my downloads it said youtube removed the video, some kind of copyright strike. I came here to see if anyone was talking about it. It's probably on X im guessing.
Read the title and obviously the answer in yes, completely without question and at this point (and I’m ashamed to admit this) although I know the dangers I’ve had a symbiotic relationship with my iPhone for years !!
I believe the problem goes back to the decision to develop technology that would free us from dependence on God, agriculture. That is when our technology started to change our nature, or perhaps reveal our nature, greedy and selfish creatures rather than egalitarian creatures dependent upon and grateful to the God who created and provided for us.
Those who know will understand. In Hinduism, they were Gandharvas. In Hinduism, he is Yama. Please, help. I have been running for a bit and saw myself do things that don't make sense. I need allies. I have been fighting my shadow. He came out then, they followed me. Time passes, memories missing. I saw myself turn into an apparition for a second. Stronger at night. I get angry easily and curse people when I get mad. I have been scaring the mortals here. Please, help me figure this out and you'll have an ally. The ancients believed when humanity no longer prayed to the Gods, they fade. Now, they're associated with Cambions, Nephilim, and demons. Incorrect. They were once heroes and men of renown. Those who know the truth will believe. Christians burned most of the history so, I have come to believe we're believing in the bs versions of the Old Gods. I don't expect mankind to believe. Chiron, if you're real, I need your assistance. I agree to peace and keeping my sword sheathed to my potential allies. What is the truth? Who am I? What am I? There's a ton of blooming, in my location. Help. I'm injured and can't fight them alone. I choose public locations like bars. They're drunk and won't remember. It wasn't until I accepted they could be real that everything began.
What JP fails to mention in all these talks of "R-Strategy Males" are Two HIGHLY pertinent facts: 1: When he lists R-strategy male character traits (Narcissistic, Psychopathy, Machiavellian, Low investment, etc), he is more accurately describing the average "modern western female". She is at the center of the bell curve. Whereas, for men....the vast majority are incapable of being R-strategy males in the dating marketplace...even if they wanted to. JP is either intentionally or erroneously letting women "off the hook" as being MORE "R-Strategy" than the "modern western male". 2: Modern western women are MORE ATTRACTED to R-Strategy males than they are L-Strategy males. Fact. We can debate WHY, or HOW this occurred; but, it is simply a fact of modern dating. JP being a multi-decade, 1-marriage guy is in a GREAT position to give long-term marriage advice; but, he is in no position to give "modern dating" advice...since he isn't living that life; nor, is he prepared to accept the realities of "doing what works", if it is not in line with his hypothesis. JP seems to gradually working his way toward many facts he doesn't want to face....namely: 🔥"Men are Romantics, trying to be Realists. Women are Realists, pretending to be Romantics."🔥 Coming to understand the implications of this....many things in modern society make perfect sense.
so the sexual liberation paid dividends to R strategy. men started adopting R strategy. Culture oriented towards hedonism... so the damn Pill killed Chivalry...bloody hell
Were women really controlled, mostly at least, by social standards, or rather by not wanting to become pregnant, especially if unwed? Seems to me it would be actually quite smart and responsible on behalf of women to avoid such a situation, regardless of what society norms dictated.
The extended family protected their offspring after they commit almost every sin… the only sin which resulted in the rejection of a female was unpartnered reproduction. And the only way to regain the good graces of the family was to track down the male and convince him to accept long term pairing.
👍one may say : “In Scandinavian countries Nature was driven out by pitchfork, yet in less than two decades found her way back home through the window” , stubbornly refusing to accept that She is a mere social construction! ( “take Her away, please! )😀…,
I'm wondering, why is it always about bad Men ? How about talking about Bad Toxic Feminism/ Bad Toxic Females huh? As soon as you ask That question as a Man it's like jumping in front of a train. PROBLEM is women think they can get away with everything while Men are ALWAYS the Bad People which pretty obviously ain't true. There is Good and Bad Men and there is Good and Bad Women but as soon as a Men points out wrong and toxic behaviour of a Woman they are the A_holes while Women can basically do and say whatever they want without being confronted in the same way as Men are even though they are No Better than Men. What do you Ladies and Gentlemen think regarding this ? PLEASE No Abusive Answers, I'm really just trying to understand what's going on! THANK YOU.✌🏻
I normally like your psychological takes on things, but this one has some things off due to how the groupings are made. Sexual imprinting happens multiple ways. One being the society they live in. I.E. the DEI crap will end up influencing a few. Matting strategies are evolving and aspects of it can be mapped specific ways. It's a little more complicated. Second the transhunanist movement has a range of people also. To add the transhumanist movement did not create the pill. The bigger kicker is the birth gap statistics that show economics having a bigger effect than the pill. The pill just helped compound things further. Causes, effects and compounding factors. The matting strategy of bad picks by females has It's own weird hijacked routes. The females that look for the bad boy or shop jails for partners. The scary trend of females wanting to be choked/autoerotic asphyxiation. You see some in men also. David caradine and such. But back to the point. They are being imprinted for such in ways. So many parts to what your trying to over simplify. 3:23 to the fish analogy. Some fish species change sexes. It gives a modeling type for which fish changed and to a small degree why. It also shows a natural % for the population under specific conditions. To that it even shows how the grouping of those people have been over represented. A lot to say about the subject. 8:22 Transhumanist are not all like her. Not to get into the female aspect she talked about. Females use technology to change themselves. Plastic surgery and botox and all that junk. Male markets are 1/10th of female markets. Even so you see them invading male markets lately. It's almost worth detaching some things to drill down on the bad cycles formed in societies. As far as the traits your lumping together as bad. You can even find those traits in religious groupings and practices in ways. Part of why that psychopathy shows up in people in the religions. A bit part is imprinting and things like biases that form. Robert Kowalsky Stanford is good for some genetics, Max Bennett for brain development over time and how some A.I. systems relate to human structure. Darren Brown for environmental and psychological priming of types. Not to get into some of the weird in matting psychology. Like females changing to share a guy perceived as top/alpha in one of a select few categories. Female pre-approval of men around other females. Herd approval. Females training some men to act worse. Nether sex needs that. As easy as it would be to make long lists of some of this stuff. I think you can get the drift from the post. A lot of things are more complex when looked at right. One freebe. The female disposition for abuse. Prison populations and male vs. female and abuse rates. Also devorce and lesbian vs gay vs heterosexual statistics. You can cross correlate with a few other things also. Half way scary for the statistics and what it means, and the lack of support networks and systems for males vs. females and considering the statistics.
Indeed, “great deal of truth in Dr JP’s word” , but sadly in our modern culture many ones’ «eyes tell brightly : free for what?! What does that matter to us, all what that we want is to be freed from something» , so we could become voluntarily “subjugated to our biological whims & also many other R strategists males’ whims who have all kinds of lovely personality traits “!
Believing as a child that what Jesus says is true, first meaning, not conceptualised symbolism. Everything is possible to God, for men it is impossible.
"you can drive human nature out with a pitchfork but still she comes back" .... my question... is religion part of human nature and can they drive religion out of the human?
Wow, these two appear to me to have very dark spirits who would be right at home waging a religious inquisition. Definitively people to not come under the control of.
Does anyone else see the similarity this version of Jordan Maxwell looks so remarkably like the son of another personality, who has difficulty speaking. Yet here he is so polite, so perfectly logical, well-spoken, and a flash dresser?
oh no he insulted the scummy sort of man we should all be aware of. how dare he. its not like he mopped the ground with women who abuse the birth control technology and co-create the modern predicament. n o he said a bad word about men. why the hell do some of you act as if its only one side of the coin ruining the world not both? oh maybe you prefer not to point at yourself but others perhaps?
Our nature is born with senses as we age we see we smell we hear we taste we feel we are missing 6th what is animals awareness before from taken from nature! So just look bubble we all walk in and grown ignorance in a social growth that is now from advance technology that will grow isolation and of well being social beings we are of growth if interaction not present developing our brains just bring madness. The tech as in AI is given nature adaptive 10-100 faster than we grow to create that come wider intellect that be social as one to know of all to know we surplus requirements create on laziness!
The simple answer is that technology doesn't change human Nature. That's a silly question. The appropriate question is how does it alter our current expose if you will of of human behavior. Human Nature is as it sounds. It is our nature. It doesn't just change because we introduce a new variable. Human behavior and social trans human behavior and social trans human behavior and social trends may certainly see a change. But riding horses changed human behavior and culture... Building fires changed human social interaction and what we considered human behavior... So I don't really understand your question or what you're driving at... Every single change in the way that we interact with our landscape ultimately altar is what we think we know about ourselves... But that doesn't mean our natures have changed.
Love ya Jordan - just watched the Elon video- I know you were giddy , I hope you get to do this again and let there be much more spaciousness in the conversation I know it was just joy - and- we really want to hear the depth of conversation between you both. Vitally important people 🙏🙏🙏 As a woman I disagree with some things, but agree far more Love ya!!
Elon was a lot more open with Dr. Peterson than he is with most people. He opened up and he lit up for Dr. Peterson. That’s just the way he is in conversations, needs a lot of “priming the pump.” Dr. Peterson knows that and got him going like no one else I’ve ever seen.
We don't love one another the way our Savior loves us. We don't care to live forever with God and one another. Just a quickie will do. There's our flaw. Read Wendell Berry's HOME ECONOMICS. Decide -- is it too late to recover a natural humanity to offer the Deity for redemption?
@@natethegr8230 Technology shapes how we perceive the world - read Jacques Ellul, McLuhan, Neil Postman, Albert Borgmann, etc. “...technology is neither good nor bad; nor is it neutral.” (Melvin Kranzberg in his laws of technology)
@@WilliamCollier-jk4gk i could list you people who argue the other side. authority arguments are only impressive for those who dont know enough about both sides of the discourse. you can insert chomsky here and others, but its pointless. kranzberg said there is a intention by the inventor, but being shortsighted he didnt put users into the equasion. the inventor is just one of the many users so its not the final verdict in this discussion. the user of the technology has the final ability to overwrite the intention of the inventor. thats how you argue. not via dropping names and removing context, so its easy to overwhelm inexperienced people by sheer authority. please try something more intellectually honest and brave next time :)
I learned so much from Mary and I’m just so happy that these two remarkable human beings sit together and exchange their views. Thank you for sharing
We thought it was our ability to love that made us human,
but it turns out it was actually our ability to SELECT EACH IMAGE CONTAINING A TRUCK.
Or I keep getting "Select all images with motorcycles", then it shows me nothing but scooters, and I don't click the scooters, and it tells me I'm wrong. FFS.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@AlexReynard😂😂😂😂😂
@@AlexReynardGet back to the charging station, robot!
@@AlexReynard😂😂
At over 7 minutes, perhaps the longest single question I have ever heard in an interview... And thank you for not interrupting Mary during her reply. I look forward to the whole interview.
Welp. These are questions that are really new to Psychology. Were crossing a new era here. AND YOURE ALONG FOR THE RIDE
Also, it was not a long question, but laying down foundations to the questions
@@moleenamountainlion Yes that too, there was many things going on in this 13 minutes of this talk alone. I need to go watch the full thing lol
I don't see the need to point out the length of the question, I think most of us can surmise what Dr. Peterson is doing. To me, he is demonstrating respect for his guest and the content of the ideas she puts forth, and for his audience.
From one of your first followers, thank you for the work you do, Dr. Peterson.
I’ve been listening to Jordan for years and I still hate when his question turns into a lecture first.
😂😂 our Jordy. ❤
I love you, Dr. Peterson, honestly and no joke. But her ability to sit quietly and patiently wait for you to actually ask your question is truly inspiring!
Lol
Big deal, sitting quietly is a way of showing her superiority. Belly aching feminazis do it all the time.
Mary Harrington yesss!!!❤❤ I love her and the two of you together, this is going to be brilliant!
As a Christian I understand the dissenters of transhumanism. But as a disabled person I see the benefits. Also, where is this line drawn? Does my power wheelchair border on transhumanistic technology? What about the metal rods and screws in my bones? What about technology such as cochlear implants, pacemakers, and nerve stimulators? This conversation, especially regarding disabled people, deserves much more nuance than it is typically given.
In the process of liberating ourselves we end up becoming a slave to vices diminishing the very thing that makes us human; interpersonal connection.
Holy shit that is very well articulated. Thank you
almost like the snake that enticed Eve to be free from God's rigid rules, only to fall from grace and be a slave to death. True freedom can only be found in face of the Lord.
Going off topic here but i've just got to say that is an absolutely superb suit you are wearing.
Go to one of his "lectures" and you'll help buy him one, but you'll get nothing in return.
@@JohannPeabody how mean
Jordan should start a men's clothing line. I doubt there is much of a market for his "quilt" or "patchwork" suits, but there is a large unfulfilled market for his elegant, slightly "westernized" retro suits like the one in this video. They're reminiscent of late 19th and early 20th Century business attire. They reflect a simpler time where more formal but comfortable attire reflected respect for a wearer's respectful cultural and social values. I personally would be proud to wear suits and other men's garments that carried a Jordan B. Peterson label.
The state of dress that passes for appropriate business attire these days is appalling. Jordan's style expresses a seriousness and formality apropos of his influential position in life and the importance of his message. I say bring back the power suit by Dr. Jordan Peterson! I'll be a happy customer.
All of his suits are superb
@@JohannPeabody damn you must have a short attention span
This year's challenges will undoubtedly be more difficult. Looking back, I realized that I was so focused with my portfolio that I made disastrous financial decisions for the entire preceding year. I had to pick between increasing my investments and purchasing a house. After choosing to sell my investments, I discovered that the property I had purchased required more maintenance than I had anticipated. Trying to find out how much longer I can take this is becoming increasingly difficult.
Take things easy, we've all made mistakes
Invest in companies that provide current cash flows to diversify your portfolio. I hired a planner at the end of 2023 to enhance my portfolio, and in the last ten months, I've made profits in over fifty thousand different marketplaces. Should 2023 teach us anything, it's that luck doesn't last forever. Even in times of abundance, we should put in more effort to prepare for the worst case scenario
How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.
Leah Foster Alderman. You'll undoubtedly find out more if you look her up online.
She appears to be well educated and well read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website, thank you for sharing.
As a mother of twins(one of them with severe disability) I'm so grateful for the contraception, other wise it would be the end of my life
Technology it's just a tool it all depends how it's used, it can be for good and for 😔
The biggest problem might be technology interferes with natural hierarchies and inter-dependent relationships. And motivation and biological reward. Take men and women: I support a woman's right to chose. In nature the female always gets the choice, who to breed with. I'm not arguing with Mother Nature. She rules. But: my body, my choice pretends the sexual equation has nothing to do with men, or the nature of the relationship & commitment to the opposite sex. I think that logic is flawed. For instance:
Since Roe vs. Wade, about 73 million abortions. But the "Morning After Pill" was about 225 Million. Marriage and human pair bonding depends on having children. No point, otherwise. To me, the main damage is, men have undergone a massive disincentive program, not to mate, not to act morally, not to marry, not to form families.
This profound mating difference between the sexes wasn't even noticed by feminists.
The feminist mating model: She avoids family during her 20s, when she evolved to have a family. Instead she focusses on her own education and economic advantage and advancement, competes with men, while trying out a variety of sexual partners. Then when she approaches 30, having used up much of the best and prettiest, youngest years on a variety of men, she finds a man and "settles down". I think she gives him a bad mating deal. And when people marry late in life, they actually can't give someone, their life. They can't make it a lifetime commitment, for the obvious reason, they have already used up a good part of their actually lifetime. You can't give away, what you already used up. This is more true for women, than men, for obvious biological reasons.
The problem is, 50% of American children are now born to single moms. So if you marry her, you enslave yourself as man, economically enslave yourself, to pay the bills, spend your life energy, work every day, paying for another man's child. This goes against most men's perception of what they want, goes against male biological interest. It's a bad biological deal, for men. It interferes with natural hierarchy and mutual inter-dependence.
Mating, trust between the sexes is plunging. The birth rate is plunging. Well, it's no wonder. We evolved for mutual inter-dependence between the genders, with women producing offspring, when young. We threw that out.
Then we gave women the vote. Naturally women voted in governments, mostly left wing, where the state became the Surrogate Husband financially, for the woman. How is that turning out? It's an experiment.
This experiment was already done, on black Americans. Starting in the 1960, we brought in The Great Society, which was cash to black women with children. Johnson did it, to get the black vote. The Great Society was a pioneer version of Black Lives Matter. At that time, black American family life was stable, despite the racism. About 80% of black homes had dads in them. Then we payed money to black single moms, incentivizing black women to not form families. Then, the fatherless black rate went from 20% to 80%...effectively replacing the black man, in the home, with disastrous social consequences. Why? This interfered with natural human inter-dependence, adding a new man into the black family.
Technology doesn't change human nature. It can just interfere with natural patterns that are time tested, workable.
That was so profound. Thank you for sharing
Dr. Jordan Peterson, thank you for sharing your brilliant ideas.
I don't agree with the conclusion of the video, but I do appreciate the insight. I'm not certain the use of Transhumanism in the title is actually appropriate for the content of the dialog here.
Transhumanism doesn't merely extend to sexual freedoms and personal liberties that apparently devolve into hedonistic debauchery. The glasses you wear, the clothing that is on you, the shoes that carry the burden of your gait. Those are all part of the umbrella that is Transhumanism. The full utilization of our creativity to better actualize our desired manifestations. We are not a simple thing, nor is the history of our species a short one.
Our journey to this very moment began with purpose over 3,000,000 years ago. When the sapient gained fire, our journey to this point was one of many inevitable destinations. A mind-bending plethora of possibilities await us on the razors edge of tomorrow's unknowns. We are human, we sit still for nothing. No path not travelled, no mountain not climbed, no adventure not taken. I do not know what our future holds, but I got a clue about the possible outcomes.. Star Trek, Bladerunner, or Mad Max / The Postman. Potiental utopia, dystopia, or civilization collapse & reset.
My hope is for Star Trek, but my gut says Bladerunner, and my heart fears a collapse of civilization. Who knows. I got Carl Sagan in my heart as a guiding principle, and that gives me enough hope for our future.
Science can improve or worsen some human situations, but the “nature”? The work says by itself “nature”. Would be the same thing of trying to change man to woman.
We can not play God. Every time men try to do that, something ends in a tragedy.
Humans are nothing more than simple chemistry and physics. It is impossible to break the laws of nature, as any law that can be broken is merely a law of the mind. Nature has no will, no intention, no idea of right and wrong. Humanity has been playing God since the first civilizations rose, we have sought to overcome the limits of our humanity. Our power to adapt and to understand has propelled us to greatness, why should we stop, why should we allow ourselves to suffer when all that stands between us and an incredible advancement is our own humility?
It seems that every modern 'solution' to perceived 'problems' in nature - whether our own, or nature as a whole - compounds the problem and creates instability further along the chain in one way or another, which calls for another 'solution', and on and on it goes. If we can embrace our nature and our role within nature, abiding its wisdom and simply dancing to the tune nature plays - rather than attempting to overthrow it and have it play ours - we'd have a lot less confusion and separation with what many feel is missing in our lives.
Exactly we never address the fundamental flaws within our own nature we try to make nature bend to our flawed nature.
A conversation with Ted Kaczynski and Jordan Peterson would’ve been something special.
Awesome Interview 💥🔥 Thank U 💯
Jordan Peterson needs to interview Nancy Pearcey - she has done extensive research into the changes to society and male and female roles as a result of the industrial revolution. Her latest book is called the Toxic War on Masculinity. She is brilliant.
To me it’s interesting to see using the term of “love child” for the fruits of often just one night stand out & not for the ones that are the fruits of long life intimate & caring relationship , ( apparently this kind of fruits are boring to some & to them «life is too short to be spent in boredom»! )
True, but the love comes from God, who is love and the creator of all life ❤️✝️
@@karmar22able 👍yes indeed, but it’s also easy & pleasurable for many of us “to mistake” lust for love!
It exploits human psychology & neurology: being designed to be addictive and also to increase social anxiety.
Do you think that was its purpose when it was made?
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@@SmokeyLove-vt4xd No , but I am open to change my mind.
Although
I just don't like people taking the credit away from feminism, obviously once something has used up all the good ethos it was riding on we can only ever be left with it's corruption or corrupt parts.
It was always suspect ,even with it's name, but we can't throw the baby out with the bath water.
@@SbonisoMMDlamini what does feminism have to do with tech lmao
@@SmokeyLove-vt4xd I don't know what you are asking exactly
Mary Harrington said it all so succinctly!
The idea of transhumanism is brilliantly explored in CS Lewis space trilogy
Dearest Dr. Peterson, I am SO happy you invited Mary on the podcast. I’ve been longing for you to do ever since I saw and enjoyed her conversation with Tammy.
It’s taking me such ages to finish your interview with Elon because it is so rich and I want to take it in, and I’m busier than a one-armed paper hanger with the kids home on vacation and needing to be fed quite constantly, and taken for walks and swims and adventures, but I will eventually finish and share thoughts. For now, here is a gentle hug
And Ruth Anne’s love.
where can I find the Elon Musk interview please it's not showing up under videos for me?
@@rubyhart7935on X or Daily Wire
I see some folks here upset you occasionally interrupt people you talk to. You can interrupt me any time you like if we ever speak and if that's all your opposition has in the grievance department I'd say that's perfectly acceptable. Thank you Mr Peterson for all you do and have done for PEOPLE!
Thanks Dr. Peterson for your continuing excellence. And thank you Mary Harrington for that very honest assessment.
Dear Doctor @JordanBPeterson , I have an autoimmune disease that makes me lose weight because it affects my gut. I see some of the benefits you mention here are for losing weight, do you ever saw people gaining weight instead? or do you have any testimonies of people who had spondylosis arthritis to improve with this diet?
Your feedback here would be life changing. Thank you in advance.
The longest question ever nd not been interrupted . Hat off Mary
They could have rehearsed the question.
Thank you 💕
I'll comment this on every video she is in - Mary is brilliant.
She absolutely is, but you would be wrong to think that she makes any difference in the attitudes of the audience listening to her. She is one among a small elite of watchdogs of conservative values who are excellent barkers, but who bark to the pack and that's it. Useful to resist wokism, sure, but powerless to turn back the tide on the ubiquitous desire of ordinary persons for sexual freedom and availability of divorce, birth control and abortion.
Well Done! Thank yall!
Why is Elon Musk interview blocked? RUclips is censoring again? Thank God Elon purchased X!!!
Oh that explains why I can't find it, was it on this channel?
It's on Elon's channel I think
I don’t think it’s blocked… I think it’s just on The pay platform, The Daily Wire
@@CK-dp6je i watched it on X
Now he is being attacked for speaking up.
Yes Jordan Peterson
The biggest problem with transhumanism is how we know what we want but have no idea about what we really need.
I love this lady xxxx
Question! What has svg sports videos and entertainment, have to do with your recent interview with elon musk? There has been a copyright strike by that channel against the interview. I can't understand why though. What part of it has anything to do with svg and what they do in the sports industry? I'm confused. The video i was watching partway through was removed, however I have found another. Who owns the video rights, (I'm assuming that would be you), and is this going to be uploaded to your channel?
Has Elon Musk video been taken down?
Dr. Peterson, I would like to apologize for saying a rude movie line from Major Payne to you the other day. Lol...I think you are brilliant and I have been listening to your lectures for a while and they are often very deep but accurate even if it takes a little longer to understand the fact while I am learning many things especially psychology. I had 36 credits and I struggled with the last psych course on but , was in nursing school as a single father. I guess I hear you always holding women up on a pedestal and I had an ex whom abandoned our kids when I was at the University and a mother whom began abusing me at age 4. Etc. Don't misunderstand me...I love women... now I realize that I have never been in a healthy relationship and I am finding out that I have ADHD and probably Autism. Anyway, I apologize. I hope you have a great day and I look forward to studying your work. Have a blessed day.
Interesting snippet. I've thought for years and years, that the feminist movement surfaced because of a failure in men to accept the burden of leading the family, accepting their spouse as partner and equal, and being a role model for their children -- and I still believe this is basically correct. Now I'm considering the additional premise that lunatic narcissistic creeps encouraged the disastrous mandate of the modern feminist, allowing them to be even more abusive to those around them (or maybe become PM of a country).
Ultimately, everything comes back to God's plan. In the Catholic faith marriage and intimacy within marriage are sacred things. Sexual intimacy between a man and a woman leads to pregnancy which either leads to death by abortion, or single motherhood when the rules God put forth are abandoned. If you follow God's plan then intimacy and motherhood are sacred things meant to be respected and protected. After all, God didn't come to the world through a volcano, a tidal wave, and earthquake or bolt of lightening. He didn't arrive in a way that would frighten us, but He came as a baby, born to a woman, belonging to life and life belonged to Him, longing to love and be loved. He made him self small that we may draw near to Him and motherhood was an important part of that plan. Motherhood is sacred. The modernist left have turned intimacy from the sacred to the profane. They've made it a commodity.
This will be good!
But medicine is also technology. I’m glad there are such things as pacemakers for exsample that extend the life. Generalizing all technological changes of human nature as harmful in the end doesn’t seem to work for me.
When is the full Musk interview dropping?
A speech diguised as a question.
Technically ruined EVERYTHING!!!!!!!
Life was so much more simple, easy & Happier!
There is an East african nomadic proverb that says, " The student who didn't study for the exam gets busy sharpening his pencil."This applies on when society ignores the moral codes that distinguish them from other mammals and gets busy just reasoning their mischievous ways.......
Ms. Harrington knows her shit, 100%.
Yeah, we had the axe handling Temperance Movement. They had a real gripe and stopped alcohol for a little while. They made it more elicit and people wanted it more. Creating mafias and a lot of very drunk people in their wake. The opium was part of this history too. My mother was influenced by the Temperance Movement against alcohol. She was a little angry about my father's proclivities. He went into AA and started a lot of meetings in Levittown, NY. My mother would hit you on the behind with a wooden spoon. LOL!
Women started to become lawyers and over time men in America changed. At one time there was no women in the public sphere. That barrier got smashed down for the better. Right? We don't want our daughters to be limited in any way. We give them free reign because that's how the person's talent comes out. They are deserving of the same ability to become an independent force of your own. Even supporting a man you love. Many women don't care at all that they make more than their husbands. Many people don't give this a second thought now.
Sounds right, all the agrarian talk. All that evolutionary set up was right. The R strategist. No investment into the future. Bombing nature with humans. Bob Marley's father was an K strategist. That is our basic human cultures getting together in the 1800's. They started with the land surveying and ended up in an oil economy. It is the best piece of history I know. The film "There Will Be Blood" expresses this time period very well. My mother and father were K strategists. They gave me enough resources to thrive. Everyone got a certain amount of money and everyone went to school and graduate work and law for free. We have insurance policies for my death and I've designated my monies to go to the females that will have children. I guess we're all K strategists. You are linking the R strategist with psychopathy, sadism and I'm not sure they more than correlate with some cases. Theories are nice. Porn is no good. You'll poison yourself with this. Don't use pornography.
The computer is a game changer. I am "me" plus "my computer and AI" system now. Pretty trippy. I'm so effective with this equipment. We're zooming into the future. What is going to happen next?
“We think technologizing ourselves will liberate us from some aspect of our nature. What in fact happens is that that aspect of our nature becomes opened up to commerce, and in the meantime our nature is unchanged”. NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is not the way to better our nature. Read Dostoevsky.
Sounds like a capitalism problem to me...
@@mrfigaloopierre9610 it is
The human body, male and female, within a range of individual variation, has an inherent design, in which consciousness and identity reside.The fundamental error is to assume that human consciousness/identity do not, within a range of individual variation, impose an inherent design for function and relationships, in effect, the truth which makes free.
Obviously, nothing can change human nature. Nature implies our behavior regardless of environment. Of course, I’m sure it can change behavior.
You can't deny natural selection and the genetic aspects of human behavior.
I'm about to listen to this bit of the interview.. but there is something to the origins of humanity and technology itself. All tech came from the line of Cain apparently.. there's a lot to be said here. How intertwined is technology to our existence as a whole? It's only from a scientific perspective that we separate the reality of technology apart from our own. Just words for thought. Not all together obvious.
I'm about to listen to this bit of the interview.. but there is something to the origins of humanity that aligns with technology itself. All tech came from the line of Cain apparently.. there's a lot to be said here. How intertwined is technology to our existence as a whole? It's only from a scientific perspective that we separate the reality of modern technology apart from our own. Just words for thought. Not all together obvious.
@@harrymills2770 yes. But behavior, and nature are two different things. And natural selection doesn’t really take place these days.
DNA is no different than a computer code. We can be altered just like a machines into something better. Man will make himself in his own image finally.
It would be really interesting to hear your opinion on the traditional idea of natural law compared to diletic philosopy of Hegel and his ideas about natural law. I have been thinking about this a lot and it seems to tie into later marxist materialistic diletics and the idea of a post-human society. Slavoj Žižek wrote a book called ’Hegel in a wired Brain’. It seems that we are moving towards a singularity.
Hi Jordan, I want to share that, The Interview U did with Elon, I was watching this Morning, (Most Excellent and Raw Interview By the way) This video was on the Matt Pocius on Tesla Stock... Channel, It was almost 2 hrs long, Well I watched part of it, Than had went back to watch the rest, And It has been Blocked.... U had Some Great Questions, And Some Great answers...That some answers was Verbalized and the Non Verbalized Body talk answers sure said a whole lot as well 💥💯 Thank U Jordan 🔥❤️🔥
What an honour sir
As the term of psychopath or now days on magazines more often term sociopath are word that even children know, the magnitude of these worst case scenarious of humas is still relatively low, but somehow yet increasing. But one very big common error that is still yhe one in power is that this is more common between men than woman. Here is where the common recerch is completely wrong as the psychopatic nor sosiopathic charathterictics aren't towards males nor women any differently. The reason why these cases are more reported among men is very simple. Women don't usually have the same physical abilities as men. As in most of the countries around the world, men usually serve in military, but here in Finland we have had to all those who want to proceed , get their low rank officer status or proceed to a professional soldier, they haveto take two tests. First one is no brainer as it is the IQ test, but the second way more difficult one is psyshological one, and no matter you got to your IQ, if you fail the latter one, you have no career in Finnish Army. And how this relates to this topic? Well, now that we have established an eligble amount of female applicants, these probabilities of harmful traits are on the same level between men and women and in some cases more common between women than men. This 'black painting' of men have florished now about 100 years, but the truth is, that in both sexes there are violent and dangerous persons. In fact all the tests show that women are more manipulating than men in all respects even in close frind ships and of course in marriage and other relationships like it. They usually like more money and wealth than men or at least appreciate it more. I think you Jordan peterson, as you already have in a sense 'rocked the boat' in various matters and sided this several times, not so high lighted , but anyway. Summa summarum: We may have gone from the dark 'Middle Ages' to modern 'computerized World and internet connections' , but in some beliefs and common attitudes, some are still in the dark, way way darker place of understanding than others. Sometimes when you meet a new person, be it a friend of yours but not known to you, or new classmate or person working on a same firm and a new one, we all start to figure out what this person is and this is because what seems to be something, doesn't quite satisfy all of us. The real tricks and traits are way below the surface, at least with reasonably smart people.
Here’s the thing: Peterson himself believes in the Hobbesian idea that “man is a wolf to his fellow man”. So how highly does Peterson himself actually think of human nature? Because if he doesn’t think of it highly, wouldn’t overcoming said human nature be a goal, by his own standards?
Watson, it's quite elementary... it's all about technologically-socially engineering a narcissistic society on all sides - ripe for warfare; the new and improved soddom and gammorah; imminent self-implosion. There is nothing new under the sun. - Holmes.
the mark is not what people think
whats her book on transhumanism called? I want to read it!
Where is the Elon Musk interview ? Post it, easy W
i downloaded it about 24 hours ago, i woke up and in my downloads it said youtube removed the video, some kind of copyright strike. I came here to see if anyone was talking about it. It's probably on X im guessing.
Read the title and obviously the answer in yes, completely without question and at this point (and I’m ashamed to admit this) although I know the dangers I’ve had a symbiotic relationship with my iPhone for years !!
Short answer: Ask Ted kaczinski
where do i find the whole episode?
For people who asked about the interview woth Elon musk ..... IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE SPOTIFY FOR FREE !
Interesting lady.
I believe the problem goes back to the decision to develop technology that would free us from dependence on God, agriculture. That is when our technology started to change our nature, or perhaps reveal our nature, greedy and selfish creatures rather than egalitarian creatures dependent upon and grateful to the God who created and provided for us.
Those who know will understand. In Hinduism, they were Gandharvas. In Hinduism, he is Yama. Please, help. I have been running for a bit and saw myself do things that don't make sense. I need allies. I have been fighting my shadow. He came out then, they followed me. Time passes, memories missing. I saw myself turn into an apparition for a second. Stronger at night. I get angry easily and curse people when I get mad. I have been scaring the mortals here. Please, help me figure this out and you'll have an ally. The ancients believed when humanity no longer prayed to the Gods, they fade. Now, they're associated with Cambions, Nephilim, and demons. Incorrect. They were once heroes and men of renown. Those who know the truth will believe. Christians burned most of the history so, I have come to believe we're believing in the bs versions of the Old Gods. I don't expect mankind to believe. Chiron, if you're real, I need your assistance. I agree to peace and keeping my sword sheathed to my potential allies. What is the truth? Who am I? What am I? There's a ton of blooming, in my location. Help. I'm injured and can't fight them alone. I choose public locations like bars. They're drunk and won't remember. It wasn't until I accepted they could be real that everything began.
What JP fails to mention in all these talks of "R-Strategy Males" are Two HIGHLY pertinent facts:
1: When he lists R-strategy male character traits (Narcissistic, Psychopathy, Machiavellian, Low investment, etc), he is more accurately describing the average "modern western female". She is at the center of the bell curve. Whereas, for men....the vast majority are incapable of being R-strategy males in the dating marketplace...even if they wanted to.
JP is either intentionally or erroneously letting women "off the hook" as being MORE "R-Strategy" than the "modern western male".
2: Modern western women are MORE ATTRACTED to R-Strategy males than they are L-Strategy males. Fact. We can debate WHY, or HOW this occurred; but, it is simply a fact of modern dating.
JP being a multi-decade, 1-marriage guy is in a GREAT position to give long-term marriage advice; but, he is in no position to give "modern dating" advice...since he isn't living that life; nor, is he prepared to accept the realities of "doing what works", if it is not in line with his hypothesis.
JP seems to gradually working his way toward many facts he doesn't want to face....namely:
🔥"Men are Romantics, trying to be Realists. Women are Realists, pretending to be Romantics."🔥
Coming to understand the implications of this....many things in modern society make perfect sense.
How to say you are incel without saying you are incel😂😂😂
The transhuman arm of the combine overwatch
so the sexual liberation paid dividends to R strategy. men started adopting R strategy. Culture oriented towards hedonism... so the damn Pill killed Chivalry...bloody hell
Can you interview Metatron?????
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Were women really controlled, mostly at least, by social standards, or rather by not wanting to become pregnant, especially if unwed? Seems to me it would be actually quite smart and responsible on behalf of women to avoid such a situation, regardless of what society norms dictated.
The extended family protected their offspring after they commit almost every sin… the only sin which resulted in the rejection of a female was unpartnered reproduction. And the only way to regain the good graces of the family was to track down the male and convince him to accept long term pairing.
👍one may say : “In Scandinavian countries Nature was driven out by pitchfork, yet in less than two decades found her way back home through the window” , stubbornly refusing to accept that She is a mere social construction! ( “take Her away, please! )😀…,
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Where is the Elon interview?
Wow! What a woman!
Where? which one?
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I'm wondering, why is it always about bad Men ? How about talking about Bad Toxic Feminism/ Bad Toxic Females huh? As soon as you ask That question as a Man it's like jumping in front of a train. PROBLEM is women think they can get away with everything while Men are ALWAYS the Bad People which pretty obviously ain't true. There is Good and Bad Men and there is Good and Bad Women but as soon as a Men points out wrong and toxic behaviour of a Woman they are the A_holes while Women can basically do and say whatever they want without being confronted in the same way as Men are even though they are No Better than Men.
What do you Ladies and Gentlemen think regarding this ? PLEASE No Abusive Answers, I'm really just trying to understand what's going on!
THANK YOU.✌🏻
I normally like your psychological takes on things, but this one has some things off due to how the groupings are made.
Sexual imprinting happens multiple ways. One being the society they live in. I.E. the DEI crap will end up influencing a few. Matting strategies are evolving and aspects of it can be mapped specific ways. It's a little more complicated.
Second the transhunanist movement has a range of people also. To add the transhumanist movement did not create the pill. The bigger kicker is the birth gap statistics that show economics having a bigger effect than the pill. The pill just helped compound things further. Causes, effects and compounding factors.
The matting strategy of bad picks by females has It's own weird hijacked routes. The females that look for the bad boy or shop jails for partners. The scary trend of females wanting to be choked/autoerotic asphyxiation. You see some in men also. David caradine and such. But back to the point. They are being imprinted for such in ways. So many parts to what your trying to over simplify.
3:23 to the fish analogy. Some fish species change sexes. It gives a modeling type for which fish changed and to a small degree why. It also shows a natural % for the population under specific conditions. To that it even shows how the grouping of those people have been over represented. A lot to say about the subject.
8:22 Transhumanist are not all like her. Not to get into the female aspect she talked about. Females use technology to change themselves. Plastic surgery and botox and all that junk. Male markets are 1/10th of female markets. Even so you see them invading male markets lately. It's almost worth detaching some things to drill down on the bad cycles formed in societies.
As far as the traits your lumping together as bad. You can even find those traits in religious groupings and practices in ways. Part of why that psychopathy shows up in people in the religions. A bit part is imprinting and things like biases that form.
Robert Kowalsky Stanford is good for some genetics, Max Bennett for brain development over time and how some A.I. systems relate to human structure. Darren Brown for environmental and psychological priming of types.
Not to get into some of the weird in matting psychology. Like females changing to share a guy perceived as top/alpha in one of a select few categories. Female pre-approval of men around other females. Herd approval. Females training some men to act worse. Nether sex needs that. As easy as it would be to make long lists of some of this stuff. I think you can get the drift from the post. A lot of things are more complex when looked at right.
One freebe. The female disposition for abuse. Prison populations and male vs. female and abuse rates. Also devorce and lesbian vs gay vs heterosexual statistics. You can cross correlate with a few other things also. Half way scary for the statistics and what it means, and the lack of support networks and systems for males vs. females and considering the statistics.
Indeed, “great deal of truth in Dr JP’s word” , but sadly in our modern culture many ones’ «eyes tell brightly : free for what?! What does that matter to us, all what that we want is to be freed from something» , so we could become voluntarily “subjugated to our biological whims & also many other R strategists males’ whims who have all kinds of lovely personality traits “!
R stratagist males.
Aka Chad and Tyrone.
Believing as a child that what Jesus says is true, first meaning, not conceptualised symbolism. Everything is possible to God, for men it is impossible.
"you can drive human nature out with a pitchfork but still she comes back" .... my question... is religion part of human nature and can they drive religion out of the human?
Mary gets to talk at @7:22
What would you do for free?
What kind of job?
Easy test to find yourself
Wow, these two appear to me to have very dark spirits who would be right at home waging a religious inquisition. Definitively people to not come under the control of.
It would not be Jordan Peterson if he was not insulting the man and not saying a single bad thing about all these women choosing these men
For real. Women are the genetic filter, they’re the reason this is happening
Does anyone else see the similarity this version of Jordan Maxwell looks so remarkably like the son of another personality, who has difficulty speaking. Yet here he is so polite, so perfectly logical, well-spoken, and a flash dresser?
oh no he insulted the scummy sort of man we should all be aware of. how dare he. its not like he mopped the ground with women who abuse the birth control technology and co-create the modern predicament. n o he said a bad word about men. why the hell do some of you act as if its only one side of the coin ruining the world not both? oh maybe you prefer not to point at yourself but others perhaps?
Dr. Peterson, are you familiar with work of Wilhelm Reich the man behind genderism, from Institute of social research?
Our nature is born with senses as we age we see we smell we hear we taste we feel we are missing 6th what is animals awareness before from taken from nature! So just look bubble we all walk in and grown ignorance in a social growth that is now from advance technology that will grow isolation and of well being social beings we are of growth if interaction not present developing our brains just bring madness. The tech as in AI is given nature adaptive 10-100 faster than we grow to create that come wider intellect that be social as one to know of all to know we surplus requirements create on laziness!
The simple answer is that technology doesn't change human Nature. That's a silly question. The appropriate question is how does it alter our current expose if you will of of human behavior. Human Nature is as it sounds. It is our nature. It doesn't just change because we introduce a new variable. Human behavior and social trans human behavior and social trans human behavior and social trends may certainly see a change. But riding horses changed human behavior and culture... Building fires changed human social interaction and what we considered human behavior... So I don't really understand your question or what you're driving at... Every single change in the way that we interact with our landscape ultimately altar is what we think we know about ourselves... But that doesn't mean our natures have changed.
Half of the video doesnt even feature Mary....so I guess this interview is going to go similar to the Louise Perry interview
Love ya Jordan - just watched the Elon video- I know you were giddy , I hope you get to do this again and let there be much more spaciousness in the conversation
I know it was just joy - and- we really want to hear the depth of conversation between you both. Vitally important people 🙏🙏🙏
As a woman I disagree with some things, but agree far more
Love ya!!
Elon was a lot more open with Dr. Peterson than he is with most people. He opened up and he lit up for Dr. Peterson. That’s just the way he is in conversations, needs a lot of “priming the pump.” Dr. Peterson knows that and got him going like no one else I’ve ever seen.
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If human nature wasn't so awful maybe there would be no desire to change it hehe😂😂
Congratulations on keeping up on the outdated news
Bubba like.
The presumption of evolution is the problem with this conversation.
It's just as real as the theory of gravity. Feel free to test that theory as well.
We don't love one another the way our Savior loves us. We don't care to live forever with God and one another. Just a quickie will do. There's our flaw. Read Wendell Berry's HOME ECONOMICS. Decide -- is it too late to recover a natural humanity to offer the Deity for redemption?
This is a good relevant topic for our times
I'm not going to quote the Unabomber though or talking about the Amish
Technology is not neutral.
Everything is neutral.
It becomes how we choose to use it.
@@natethegr8230 Technology shapes how we perceive the world - read Jacques Ellul, McLuhan, Neil Postman, Albert Borgmann, etc. “...technology is neither good nor bad; nor is it neutral.” (Melvin Kranzberg in his laws of technology)
@@WilliamCollier-jk4gk i could list you people who argue the other side. authority arguments are only impressive for those who dont know enough about both sides of the discourse. you can insert chomsky here and others, but its pointless. kranzberg said there is a intention by the inventor, but being shortsighted he didnt put users into the equasion. the inventor is just one of the many users so its not the final verdict in this discussion. the user of the technology has the final ability to overwrite the intention of the inventor. thats how you argue. not via dropping names and removing context, so its easy to overwhelm inexperienced people by sheer authority. please try something more intellectually honest and brave next time :)
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