Getting to Hades with ZERO boons to get secret dialogue! /Hades/

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • This is on the test branch of the game, an optional version with some balance changes that the devs are considering. Visit the official SGG discord to find these (the changes that matter here are a buff for Zag Bow from 10% crit to 15% and Shattered Shackle going from 80% to 100% damage).
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Комментарии • 437

  • @jasonmelanconjm
    @jasonmelanconjm 3 года назад +3306

    Hades: insults you for taking boons
    Also Hades: insults you for not taking boons

    • @JonesCrimson
      @JonesCrimson 3 года назад +139

      More specifically for selling boons, but yeah he would insult us no matter what.

    • @dinoaurus1
      @dinoaurus1 3 года назад +78

      @@JonesCrimson funny because the pnöy reason he sold them was because they were unavoidable to get lol

    • @JamesTheTurnbull
      @JamesTheTurnbull 3 года назад +60

      Damned if you do
      Damned if you don't

    • @malmorose
      @malmorose 3 года назад +13

      Thanks dad

    • @fatefulverdida3377
      @fatefulverdida3377 3 года назад +43

      I think he's insulting you in case the player actually beats Hades without the boons.
      Think of it.
      A person who has the choice to be blessed by gods only turns them down.
      Confident enough to take you down, viewing yourself as weak.

  • @LeftyLord1104
    @LeftyLord1104 3 года назад +4119

    This man casually did a 20 heat EM4 boonless without using a single Death Defiance

    • @kellyeaton7252
      @kellyeaton7252 3 года назад +225

      This man casually unzipped his pants and dropped bowling balls on top of what I thought were my amazing golf balls. Now all I have are golf discs and shame.

    • @korrenthereaper4357
      @korrenthereaper4357 3 года назад +11

      I'd only be impressed/cared if he did 32.

    • @llevigar5685
      @llevigar5685 3 года назад +320

      @@korrenthereaper4357 ok miles

    • @thesenate8268
      @thesenate8268 3 года назад +122

      @@korrenthereaper4357 You can max out the tight deadline, approval process and underworld customs for 12 heat. What is the difference? It's still a boonless run

    • @vapersmith7859
      @vapersmith7859 3 года назад +58

      Yeah somehow I could tell this guy is literally the most godlike player of this game I have ever witnessed. I suck an unbelievable amount at this game and ended up losing to the stupid brimstone beam enemies (Not that I won't keep trying to get further). This Haelian could destroy them in a glance without taking damage he's probably both insanely experienced at this particular game AND talented because you need both to destroy this game THIS hard.

  • @DolusVulpes
    @DolusVulpes 3 года назад +2724

    If you think about it, Sisyphus' keepsake basically exists to tell you there's a reason to try a zero boon run.

    • @BrassWing
      @BrassWing 3 года назад +217

      @Locke Dunnegan My first escape of the game involved using the plume all the way through lmao. Then Hermes gave me that auto-dodge boon in Tartarus. You don't have to learn boss patterns if you flip a coin every time they hit you

    • @shirshobanerjee7751
      @shirshobanerjee7751 2 года назад +15

      Funny enough that’s how I beat 32 heat

    • @ADSadachbia
      @ADSadachbia Год назад +2

      Wait... What

    • @DolusVulpes
      @DolusVulpes Год назад +57

      @@ADSadachbia Sisyphus' keepsake, at its max strength, doubles your attack, special, and cast damage, but only when you have no boons.

    • @ADSadachbia
      @ADSadachbia Год назад +11

      @@DolusVulpes i know that. I just didn't took it as metaphor to Sisyphus Boulder and a hint of beating game with no boons

  • @TheMarkoSeke
    @TheMarkoSeke 3 года назад +2722

    at 26:19 you missed a gold pot, and you were exactly that much away from buying the titan blood lol

    • @mejhdhhicbfshihids652
      @mejhdhhicbfshihids652 3 года назад +36

      Oof

    • @sammylucas6395
      @sammylucas6395 3 года назад +192

      Lmao this reminds me of the old "you missed a tinted rock! Ya dingus!" Classic :)

    • @jimbo4333
      @jimbo4333 3 года назад +14

      @@sammylucas6395 hutts, was a thing

    • @Lilian040210
      @Lilian040210 3 года назад +38

      Oh that one time I had exactly 999 gold and Charon had a diamond :')

    • @deletedaccount3047
      @deletedaccount3047 3 года назад +3

      @@sammylucas6395 ah hutts

  • @TheKarishi
    @TheKarishi 3 года назад +493

    Hades: You...tell no one at the house, do you hear me?
    Zag, looking at video's 235k views: No sweat dad, my lips are sealed.

    • @Talguy21
      @Talguy21 3 года назад +32

      "*I* didn't tell anyone. The video I recorded, on the other hand..."

    • @ahmadibrahim485
      @ahmadibrahim485 10 месяцев назад

      @@Talguy21
      Hades: You did WHAT?!

  • @RobTenken
    @RobTenken 3 года назад +2146

    The dialogue I got was slightly different. Zag talked about how he's proven himself capable of doing what other people thought was impossible, over and over.

    • @malenkas3
      @malenkas3 3 года назад +419

      In mine as well and then Hades told me grab a "cold one" from the fridge and said he's proud of me.

    • @RobTenken
      @RobTenken 3 года назад +256

      @@malenkas3 Ha! What a dream. The good ending.

    • @napppstar0
      @napppstar0 3 года назад +28

      I just noticed he uses a cast with the Aphrodite boon on it in the Charon fight. Doesn't even do the run right lol.

    • @krasudreal3948
      @krasudreal3948 3 года назад +3

      Funny is that I saw a dialog like this on a youtube video. But I don't know what video anymore.

    • @kostasspirou1010
      @kostasspirou1010 3 года назад +70

      @@napppstar0 He sold the Boon before he arrived to Asphodel though, so he used the normal Cast, without Aphrodite's Boon.

  • @sqeekybassoon8210
    @sqeekybassoon8210 3 года назад +2126

    I just realized how hard the third phase Hades theme slaps.

    • @wangledteb5671
      @wangledteb5671 3 года назад +28

      best last boss theme since Earthbound imo

    • @dmarsub
      @dmarsub 3 года назад +5

      Alsmost as great as F-Zero Music

    • @kblade08
      @kblade08 3 года назад +54

      The dude who made the soundtrack (also voiced Zags) did NOT have to go that hard

    • @HalfDayHero
      @HalfDayHero 3 года назад +60

      "third phase"? fuuuuuck.

    • @Kronkoft
      @Kronkoft 3 года назад +43

      Third phase? Wtf, I've been busting my ass to beat 2nd phase. I'm sad.

  • @Abdega
    @Abdega 3 года назад +347

    27:25 Hades: you smell that? Smells like BITCH in here!
    (Little did he know, it was himself he was smelling)

    • @Fukei_Mono
      @Fukei_Mono 3 года назад +6

      More like: "Huh, it doesn't smell like bitch this time."

    • @prachetasnayse9709
      @prachetasnayse9709 3 года назад

      yes

    • @piosenki001
      @piosenki001 2 года назад +3

      I read that part in brackets with the games narrators voice xD

  • @genger920
    @genger920 3 года назад +529

    He missed one urn right before Sack that I think would have been the missing 15g for the Titan Blood, damn shame.

    • @mr.clevertrick8710
      @mr.clevertrick8710 3 года назад +12

      He doesn't need titan blood because he already maxed everything

    • @genger920
      @genger920 3 года назад +21

      @@mr.clevertrick8710 he talks about wanting to buy it (he's joking)

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад +129

      Dang it all

    • @Nat_the_Chicken
      @Nat_the_Chicken 3 года назад +16

      @@mr.clevertrick8710 I mean, it's sitting there, he's been accumulating gold for the entire run because no boons, he's sooo close and it's taunting him... It's the kind of thing where you feel like you'd never be able to get it normally when it pops up there so it's like a victory over the game if you can buy it without intentionally farming for it. Wouldn't you want it too?

  • @reoden7546
    @reoden7546 3 года назад +114

    I love little details like this. Like someone in Twitch chat said they thought about people doing this sort of run, but it's also way more than that. They encouraged it by creating and buffing an item that boosts it, and they put irl resources into creating Dialogue (and voice acting) to reward it. That's pretty cool in a world where many others are trying to see how many cut corners they can get away with while still wringing you for every last penny they can.

  • @lifelover1349
    @lifelover1349 3 года назад +505

    27:24

  • @AveBatTV
    @AveBatTV 3 года назад +123

    TFW dad tells you to tell no one and you post on RUclips anyway :p

    • @GoldLight73
      @GoldLight73 3 года назад +12

      Well, he said no one AT THE HOUSE.

  • @MitoNova583
    @MitoNova583 3 года назад +271

    Chaos wouldn’t count for Shackle, since all of their boons are pure passive
    It’s active boons like the Olympians’ that would nullify the Shackle

    • @lomiification
      @lomiification 3 года назад +29

      But would Hades care?

    • @dowfreak7
      @dowfreak7 3 года назад +82

      The question isn't if it screws with shackle, but rather if it would count against the dialogue.
      I was pretty certain chaos boons wouldn't work against the shackle, since they're just secondary boons. But I can absolutely see them destroying this dialogue for some reason, even though I think the game itself doesn't even count Chaos as an Olympian.

    • @kaisar0
      @kaisar0 3 года назад +40

      @@dowfreak7 I just did this challenge and took Chaos boons and still got the dialogue from Hades.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад +168

      It was more about "does Chaos count if I want to title it as a boonless run?" According to my last video where I did this, Chaos was cheating.

    • @dowfreak7
      @dowfreak7 3 года назад +32

      @@Haelian Arguing semantics with twitch chat or YT comments for challenge runs is the worst.
      Just not taking chaos would be the best choice then, I guess.

  • @lazynoodle6739
    @lazynoodle6739 3 года назад +59

    Me who hasn't gotten beyond Extreme Measures 2, seeing Hades' third phase: mom come pick me up, I'm scared
    I am constantly amazed and terrified by the skills of Hades streamers like him

    • @haysdixon6227
      @haysdixon6227 2 года назад +9

      me too, they’re crazy
      i beat 16 for the first time recently and was like “oh cool i must be at least in the midgame”
      then watched a video beginners guide and they said “this is for players new to the game, so we’ll focus on 0-20 heat
      duuuude

    • @sambasambasamba6931
      @sambasambasamba6931 2 года назад +3

      @@haysdixon6227 right? I feel like I played the game for ages and my best was 9 heat

    • @thepretzel2
      @thepretzel2 2 года назад

      I've gotten to where I can easily do progressively harder Heats after beating each. I start out maxxing out Extreme Measures then the one that increases # of enemies on screen. After those, I've added Damage Control.

    • @talagaqui6282
      @talagaqui6282 11 месяцев назад

      @@sambasambasamba6931 me too, i feel like i did so much already but i am still at gama warden level and a bunch of stuff left to buy for the house contractor lol

  • @od1401
    @od1401 3 года назад +330

    Twitch chat - rips on youtube chat for suggesting chaos boons is cheating. Proceeds to demand removal of family favourites immediately after. OK.

    • @tugsuumovies1999
      @tugsuumovies1999 3 года назад +4

      I dont get why family favorite would be cheating tho

    • @BFedie518
      @BFedie518 3 года назад +62

      @@tugsuumovies1999 The logic is that since it gives you more damage the more boons you have, you're still benefiting from boons for at least a few rooms before you sell them.
      Personally I'm neutral on the issue.

    • @dig8634
      @dig8634 3 года назад +28

      I just think that the point of this run is to get the dialogue, so as long as Chaos doesn't count towards that, I don't really care. I don't know if it counts though.
      If you truly want a no-boons run simply for the challenge, you could remove Chaos boons and Family Favorite, but it's an arbitrary restriction run. The rules are arbitrary by definition.

    • @thesenate8268
      @thesenate8268 3 года назад +2

      @@BFedie518 He only had 1 boon max so it gave %5 bonus damage to him. That is acceptable.

  • @princessthyemis
    @princessthyemis 3 года назад +62

    omg you can summon Skelly?! And he distracts enemies for you?! Awwww that's so sweet!!!!

  • @doctorrussia
    @doctorrussia 3 года назад +158

    Bruh I can't even make it to Hades reliably with 1 heat let alone with no boons yet this dude comes in and kills it

    • @ioi1989
      @ioi1989 3 года назад +19

      Practice makes perfect I guess, I've been milking the game the past 2 weeks now, still a long way I think from reaching the epilogue, anyways the trick is to find some good offerings to combine, there's a ton in this game depending on your playstyle I guess, though even after having 75 hours in the game I still get confused between hammer upgrades/boons/offerings lol, I would say that Dionysus's offerings are good with the poison build up or if u can work on getting the duo offering between Ares/Artemis that also deals a ton of damage. Work on upgrading the mirror of night talents to the max in case you haven't it will definitely aid you in beating the game with higher heat levels. Also if you're having issues with the bosses of each underworld then try and use the keepsake (forgot its name) that gives you a 5 hit invincibility for each underworld boss encounter if you max it out. Hope this helps.

    • @anonyme4881
      @anonyme4881 3 года назад +6

      Its all about practice and preference.
      Right know I have little to no trouble for Hades 2nd form (first form is a nightmare for me), but Elyseum trash mob are HORRIBLE

    • @nintendork9207
      @nintendork9207 3 года назад +1

      I found that the easiest, most reliable 1 heat run for me is to just use one stage of Calisthenics Program (only recently got my first clear, and the second was a 1 heat with that setup, been able to get to Styx/Hades pretty reliably that way tho). Not sure if it'd work for you(or if you're even still stuck in 1 heat), but hopefully you make/made the breakthrough!

    • @redfox9726
      @redfox9726 3 года назад

      @@nintendork9207 just play n you'll get better , took me about 80-90 runs to consistently win , most things take a 100 tries to get good at something n you master it arou 1k , allthough realisticly everyone is different and such precise estimation are obv false , but not entirely wrong either

    • @tzem2590
      @tzem2590 2 года назад

      Really? I below 5 heat could do this in second try. Game is easy, even Hades fight and the only thing that can stop me is summons... I can't Focus on Hades summons and bombs on the same time

  • @wicky7591
    @wicky7591 3 года назад +195

    More then capable with his own power, if you don’t count the trinkets, hammers and Charon items.

    • @akitpe3091
      @akitpe3091 3 года назад +103

      Hades shit talks so much Zag for using boons while he himself owns a legendary spear and a fucking invisibility cloak

    • @HunterTracks
      @HunterTracks 3 года назад +50

      @@akitpe3091 I mean, he has every right to. Hades may be using legendary weapons and armor, but Zag is using that _and_ the help from Olympians and Chaos _and_ the help from Nyx (via Darkness) _and_ the keepsakes _and_ the companions _and_ the Titan's blood _and_ literally changing the layout of the place. He cheats a lot lol.

    • @somdudewillson
      @somdudewillson 3 года назад +26

      @@HunterTracks The place changes its *own* layout to make it harder for people (including Zag) to escape.

    • @HunterTracks
      @HunterTracks 3 года назад +10

      @@somdudewillson True, but Zag requisitions changes to make going through it easier so it sorta balances out.

    • @bugjams
      @bugjams 3 года назад +53

      @@HunterTracks I would argue the mirror doesn't count as "help" honestly. Nyx gave it to him, but by his birth, Zag is tied to darkness, and made of it too I think? So really any strength he gets from the mirror is just him unlocking his own potential.

  • @Blue_Lunacy
    @Blue_Lunacy 3 года назад +45

    I have been wondering whether it's possible to do boonless run and whether there will be special dialogue with Hades. Thank you for doing this.

  • @pinguingaming508
    @pinguingaming508 3 года назад +71

    How is he doing so much damage, i cant seem to ever do as much as haelian in his videos

    • @jprunsfunny
      @jprunsfunny 3 года назад +22

      It's a lot of very specific trigger timing, maneuvering to back-stab as much as possible, and knowing which hammers help more than others...
      He's hitting the maximum damage boost from perfectly charging the Bow attack each time (it charges a little faster right after a dash, so he's also using dash-attacks each time), he's able to "Critical" (3x damage) 15% of the time due to putting 5 Titan's Blood into the Zagreus Aspect, and he's getting +100% damage from Shackle and dealing 2x damage from the Twin Shot hammer upgrade.
      He's just played so many times through the game that he knows how to get maximum potency out of a given build or set of boons/upgrades, and has the muscle memory and practice w/dashing behind enemies to make the most of each attack.

    • @CognizantCheddar
      @CognizantCheddar Год назад +1

      It's mainly the Sisyphus keepsake and the twin shot Daedalus upgrade that you're seeing. There's a few other elements, but mainly it's those two things. Those two items are giving him 400% base-damage on his Attack.

  • @Denuhm
    @Denuhm 3 года назад +108

    Daddy dan, at it again finding the secrets of hades for me so I don't have to suffer

  • @annoyingpos
    @annoyingpos 3 года назад +88

    Aw man, I tried doing this, hoping for a voice line based on it, did it on my third try, but didn't get any dialogue. Gonna guess that it's because I used a non Zag aspect weapon or took a Bouldy thing, but I was hoping that since he was non-Olympian it wouldn't count. Might have to try again now lol

    • @WorkignTF2
      @WorkignTF2 3 года назад +60

      It was added in the test branch/will be added next patch.

    • @annoyingpos
      @annoyingpos 3 года назад +8

      @@WorkignTF2 I realized after I made the comment that the line might not have been added until then too lol :) Thanks :D

    • @thanguc3658
      @thanguc3658 3 года назад +9

      @@annoyingpos Just realized that same thing here, I got a really good run with the hoarder slash, trying to get all the epic boons, savings the roll for the last selling shop, got a 2 sacks on styx of health and money and realized that my keepsake is only 80% and the clip is on the test branch lol

    • @rns6889
      @rns6889 3 года назад

      Had chaos boon and didn't get it, the comments were right

    • @talagaqui6282
      @talagaqui6282 11 месяцев назад

      @@rns6889 i think you weren't playing on the test branch at the time, so the dialogue didn't exist yet

  • @hekirb3382
    @hekirb3382 3 года назад +82

    I just beat extreme measures hades today (on my first try too) which means I can finally start watching your videos until the end!

  • @averylarsen2511
    @averylarsen2511 3 года назад +43

    The feather duster is perfect for early game survivabilty. I would use that then swtich to skellys tooth when I hit styx for that extra death defiance.

    • @Syllaren
      @Syllaren 2 года назад +1

      This^ back when we were too broke to afford a lot of defiance, and when we lost to the mobs before we even got to the boss. Those things that let you survive longer let you practice your timing longer. They are pretty great for the learning curve. I mean hell if actually know what you're doing for easy picks, and end up taking tidal dash or some shit just spamming all the mobs into walls to clear, you really didn't learn how they move or how to dodge their attacks. So in the long run I feel like using feather duster and tooth (maybe even the combo breaker invul thing I'm forgetting the name of) are pretty damn important for the learning curve.

  • @markzeman4219
    @markzeman4219 3 года назад +39

    I used to use Dusa's Featherduster when starting out, before I got the DDs and healing upgrades from the mirror. It was _really_ good back then. Now not anymore.

    • @B_Skizzle
      @B_Skizzle 3 года назад +11

      I haven’t even thought about Dusa's keepsake, let alone equipped it, in like 100 runs. It’s a shame, she’s one of the best characters but has one of the worst keepsakes.

    • @markzeman4219
      @markzeman4219 3 года назад +2

      @@B_Skizzle Yeah, agreed. At some point, it just becomes pointless.

    • @dinoaurus1
      @dinoaurus1 3 года назад +1

      Lucky tooth as well. Uou just growvout of it

    • @BFedie518
      @BFedie518 3 года назад +1

      @@dinoaurus1 The tooth carried my first few Hades wins.

    • @dinoaurus1
      @dinoaurus1 3 года назад

      @@BFedie518 i mean yeah its amazing if you need an emergency death defiance but otherwise not so much

  • @Briar_Belle
    @Briar_Belle 3 года назад +45

    I feel like the shackles are a really decent starting run keepsake cause you can go in as if you have boons and then, once you get some key abilities, switch it out after the furies

    • @keystonelyte
      @keystonelyte 3 года назад +1

      It doesn't even make sense to use shackle for Tartarus, seeing as Tartarus is super easy

    • @Mediocresinger
      @Mediocresinger 3 года назад +4

      @@keystonelyte whej you've played a lot, yes. When you are just starting and even Tartarus is a legitimate struggle, no.

    • @keystonelyte
      @keystonelyte 3 года назад +2

      @@Mediocresinger there are things that make the run easier out of the gate than shackle

  • @adrianflo6481
    @adrianflo6481 3 года назад +45

    Jacket and backwards cap indoors? This guy is down with the kids !

  • @richardmadden7721
    @richardmadden7721 3 года назад +8

    Spoiler for anyone that don't know why Skelly cannot be summon during Charon fight,
    Skelly works under Charon where Skelly was ordered to assist Zagreus on his attempt to escape the underworld. There's also a hint in Skelly mouth where you can see a gold coin that you get throughout the escape attempt. I just knew this last week.

    • @MrDarkwizard22
      @MrDarkwizard22 3 года назад +4

      Cool info. I remember thanatos being flustered when zagreus asked him about skelly so i thought it was from him.

  • @Kinkgobernable
    @Kinkgobernable 3 года назад +42

    As far as I know Chaos boons don't nullify the Shackle's bonus because it isn't an Olympian boon, am I wrong or did that get patched at some point?
    EDIT: So I just tried it and they don't actually nullify each other. With the Shattered Shackle, the Demeter Fist special did 54 damage. Got a Chaos special boon, unlocked it after 3 rooms, damage went up by +38% resulting in 71 damage, meaning that it didn't replace the 80% damage boost from the shackle or else it wouldn't have increased

    • @blackblade99009
      @blackblade99009 3 года назад +7

      He ended up not using any boons solely for the extra dialogue from daddy.

    • @garyroach4942
      @garyroach4942 3 года назад +6

      It's not whether or not it affects shackle, of course it doesn't. It's about not knowing whether or not it affects the dialogue from hades

    • @c-ez3337
      @c-ez3337 3 года назад +1

      Interesting ty for testing that

  • @spectralspectra2282
    @spectralspectra2282 5 месяцев назад +2

    Man I'm bad at the game

  • @drewbirbinpalace
    @drewbirbinpalace 3 года назад +41

    when you get hit so hard you turn into a goat 29:35

  • @BalkanyeWest
    @BalkanyeWest 3 года назад +15

    30:57 That sounded like Tisiphone, are you secretly Tis' VA haelian ??

  • @LiqnLag
    @LiqnLag 3 года назад +15

    Nice run, though I miss that creepy ass circus outro you had. =)

  • @unknownavenger3041
    @unknownavenger3041 3 года назад +19

    OH HI MARK!
    P.S: I tried this run with Arthur's Aspect, it was pretty decent, if not for the FO buffed enemies lol

  • @evankrueger7321
    @evankrueger7321 3 года назад +10

    i would be willing to say that Hades offers an enormous amount of ways to get healed

  • @ryansqueri1405
    @ryansqueri1405 3 года назад +8

    I think shattered shackle fits into a run well if you take it right at the start and you dont want to force your run completely. I beat 32 heat and did a bunch of the hard stuff in the game but now I just play a bit more casually and I always start with shackle in tartarus. However, if we are talking about useless keepsakes I think skull earrings and distant memory need a complete rework. They’re just useless.

    • @Lisey_Ann
      @Lisey_Ann 2 года назад

      dude how did you beat it with 32 heat, i keep dying in asphodel even with the lucky tooth and owl pendant lol

    • @CognizantCheddar
      @CognizantCheddar Год назад +1

      Were those keepsakes different, two years ago when you posted this?
      Built correctly, skull earring is powerful with the bow. And distant memory is basically free bonus damage with the bow, rail, or with the hidden aspect of the spear.
      The most useless keepsake in the game is Thanatos's. If you're good enough to never get hit in every room and earn its buff, you don't need its buff!

  • @MilesPlaysPriv
    @MilesPlaysPriv 3 года назад +12

    since you can hit skelly enemies should have friendly fire too without getting deflected

  • @xTobsecretx
    @xTobsecretx 3 года назад +24

    Wanna see this but with hoarding slash

    • @ShadowAraun
      @ShadowAraun 3 года назад +1

      seriously i tried this with a hoarding slash nemesis set up, and got destroyed ;-; then again, i was trying no mirror and no boons, so it was aweful.

  • @Azure312
    @Azure312 2 года назад +4

    Does anything different happen if you do a Fresh First Run with no Boons? besides being a legendary achievement I feel it would be also funny lorewise. Although I'm not sure if it's possible since you can sell 3 Boons per Purge Pool.

  • @duddledeedo
    @duddledeedo 3 года назад +3

    Wait... You can fight Charon?!
    Also I've never gotten Lernie for the Hydra fight :(
    And I didn't even know you could summon Meg and Skelly, or that you could reroll doors.

  • @askmeagain43
    @askmeagain43 3 года назад +6

    To be honset, while I like GPB, and most of the content he makes, watching him play this has been frustrating AF. He barely reads anything and has missed out on so many things in this game as a rsult.

  • @Valkyrie-Kain
    @Valkyrie-Kain 3 года назад +9

    My girlfriend started playing this game on pc and I started when it came out on console. She was hyping me up so much for an item she wanted me to get once I was able so she eagerly watched and made sure I didn’t mess anything up. Finally I walked over and handed this lady a nectar and I got the item. My girlfriend was ecstatic, and told me I should check it out right away. It was an item that gave me a 5% chance to find minimal health in some pots. Scaled to 15% at max rank, it was the Dusa feather duster. I was so….disappointed.

  • @mmd3585
    @mmd3585 3 года назад +5

    I beat the game with Crystal Beam multiple times. I just let they do the fighting for me.

  • @natzo89
    @natzo89 3 года назад +4

    Hades "The bow is still the weapon of cowards, boy. This doesn't count."

  • @kevandre
    @kevandre 3 года назад +2

    Maybe I'm just a noob but crystal beam is like THE thing I get for the Heroes every time. Theseus can't shield in multiple directions, it's also great for hades tbh

    • @talagaqui6282
      @talagaqui6282 11 месяцев назад

      imo its only useful in bosses that don't move much, like the hydra and the fury sisters, unless you get cristal clarity from artemis.

  • @DoctorGester
    @DoctorGester 3 года назад +5

    You couldn't get titan's blood because you missed one urn in styx, would have been exactly 1200 :D

  • @MrDegan2
    @MrDegan2 3 года назад +3

    Here's the talk of Crystal beam, sat here with my sub 45 hours in the game feeling like "oh I really like the beam for bosses, am I a scrub" lol

  • @B_Skizzle
    @B_Skizzle 3 года назад +9

    I'm trying to be patient, but it’s starting to get kind of frustrating how far behind the Switch version is. I don’t give a crap about cross saves, I just want it to be up to date with Steam/Epic.

    • @qlock6154
      @qlock6154 3 года назад +2

      Are they not up to date? I own both on the switch and steam but i quit playing the steam version.

    • @MitoNova583
      @MitoNova583 3 года назад +3

      @@qlock6154 Switch version didn’t get the October patch with the new themes & balance changes, & it still has the bugs with not unlocking the sundial & Good Riddance’s instrumental

  • @marcosachaval3534
    @marcosachaval3534 3 года назад +3

    I've just finished a no boons run myself :D
    Got triple shot and perfect shot
    And in the health area, almost the same as him, 425.
    But did the run at heat 4. I'm not as much of a madman as him hahaha.

  • @rararasputin8608
    @rararasputin8608 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for the new tricks, I learned something so I can start training in order to take on Phase 3 Hades when I need to rack up Heat.

  • @Grimnebulon
    @Grimnebulon 3 года назад +13

    Still faster than my fastest time so far 😬

  • @williescott5439
    @williescott5439 3 года назад +4

    Man, you make this game look so much easier than it is.

  • @natalieakins6658
    @natalieakins6658 3 года назад +6

    I just want you to imagine the look of horror on my face when I saw the 3rd phase of the Hades fight (I've only had the game about 2 weeks now)

  • @Kodasa_Sinclair
    @Kodasa_Sinclair 3 года назад +2

    The feather duster was my first 3 star keepsake when I was a big noob. Now it's *ironically* gathering dust in the back of my keepsakes cabinet.

  • @darkAwesome100
    @darkAwesome100 Год назад

    you say "that's the whole thing" but the fact that there is unique, fully voiced dialogue for this *incredibly* rare occurrence is really cool.
    Nevermind the difficulty, you'd have to have decent luck to *avoid* getting boons.

  • @ElysianLys
    @ElysianLys 3 года назад +7

    Funnily enough, I *just* finished watching GrandPooBear's Hades runs before checking out this video and I was suuuuuper frustrated at his chat's bad advice.

  • @somnus7959
    @somnus7959 2 года назад +1

    I will be trying this later. Lately I’ve been exclusively trying to get Splitting Bolt and Second Wave together along with Sea Storm. I came across it by accident one time and literally cruised through. I usually take Poseidon Attack, Zeus Cast and either of their Calls. From there it’s Razor Shoals, Breaking Wave and Wave Pounding (for bosses) for Poseidon and Storm Lighting and Static discharge for Zeus. Most of those are only there for the Duo and Legendary, but most of Poseidons boons compliment his attack Boons *very* well. Static Discharge is pretty okay too ig.

  • @D4C413
    @D4C413 3 года назад +7

    Why is this 20 dollar game soooo good???

  • @clous081
    @clous081 3 года назад +6

    I used dusas keepsake until I was able to reach hades. It was all that could afford me the run

  • @dareusdesign
    @dareusdesign 3 года назад +1

    damn dude i’ve got like 10 hours in the game and these systems and stats look FOREIGN. what the hell is “heat” omg

    • @SugeryGold
      @SugeryGold 3 года назад +1

      You'll know once you escape hell

  • @MrDarkwizard22
    @MrDarkwizard22 3 года назад +3

    I don't watch all your videos but the last one i did watch had a clown outro. I'm sad to see it gone ;(

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад +3

      It will live on in our memories.

  • @WingsOfOuroboros
    @WingsOfOuroboros 3 года назад +3

    I tried this myself a while back and he didn't say anything different. I guess it just depends.

    • @BFedie518
      @BFedie518 3 года назад +2

      It's something new in the test branch

  • @antiMatterDynamit
    @antiMatterDynamit 3 года назад +1

    if anybody is wondering: chaos doesnt count and it's way easier with some good chaos boons

  • @mahmudhanish5030
    @mahmudhanish5030 3 года назад +2

    I enjoy these videos a lot, and i would love to join the stream, what time do you stream at?
    If you don't have a schedule about what time?

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад

      12 pm est, sun, mon, wed and fri!

  • @matthewvarona6476
    @matthewvarona6476 3 года назад +3

    30:59 haelian cosplays as tisiphone

  • @ivankhm
    @ivankhm 3 года назад +2

    You really should buy the domain name "dampdad.com" and make it redirect to your stream
    Great vid tho, cheers!

    • @ivankhm
      @ivankhm 3 года назад +1

      Oh w8

    • @ivankhm
      @ivankhm 3 года назад +1

      Nvm, its just dampdad.com not working, but www.dampdad.com works

  • @theguy7539
    @theguy7539 Год назад +1

    I did this before it was dope AND I beat his third phase heheh

  • @sam.k.classic
    @sam.k.classic 3 года назад +1

    I would love for shattered shackle to give 100% now. (I hope that is implemented.) it would be perfect for rama. I've gotten pretty good at timing the powershot with rama and getting 100% damage with shattered shackle on rama would be awesome. Also, I recently learned from SGG's discord that a chaos boon buffs doesn't negate shattered shackle so yeah...I welcome that. Supposedly, shattered shackle only applies to the core abilities (the ones always visible on the left hand side.) Also, I don't understand why skelly gets 900ish damage points in the courtyard per life but 250 per instance during a run. That's a major bummer.

  • @Nick_Whiskey
    @Nick_Whiskey 3 года назад +1

    I got different dialogue when I did this - it might be because I had only Chaos boons?

  • @domhyrule
    @domhyrule 3 года назад +2

    I think that the punishment where they ignore the initial damage isnt bad

    • @talagaqui6282
      @talagaqui6282 11 месяцев назад

      unless you are playing with an weapon/aspect that attacks slow or one attack at a time, like arthur and the bow. Its basically a free heat if you're using malphon or zeus shield

  • @Urlastnerve
    @Urlastnerve 3 года назад +1

    The crystal beams really clutched a win for me the other day. With the right boons, they melted Hades second form.

  • @princessthyemis
    @princessthyemis 3 года назад +1

    Dude your skill is AMAZING?!! My best is 7 heat with the shield so far!

  • @drakkenmensch
    @drakkenmensch 3 года назад +649

    You didn't have to take zeus boon right at the start. You could have taken the erebus gate and thrown it on purpose to get an onion as your prize.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад +369

      Totally didnt even consider this

    • @patrickbaker7014
      @patrickbaker7014 3 года назад +10

      exactly what I was thinking lol

  • @Ebrietas117
    @Ebrietas117 3 года назад

    I have played hades for like 4 days in a row now and holy there is so much I have not seen yet. I am super bad at the game but I did not really understand how yo did so much damage since the beginning of the run :0

  • @O_Osawa
    @O_Osawa 4 месяца назад

    So, idk if someone is wondering by now but Chaos apparently doesn't count cause they aren't a Olympian god. I did the "no-olympian-boon run" and got some Chaos boons. The dialogue was slightly different than Haelian's, but the same structure like "yo, no scent of Olympus in you boy", so I guess it works anyways :D

  • @Lisey_Ann
    @Lisey_Ann 2 года назад

    how is it a critical hit almost every time?? and when i have the arrow maxed out. this doesn't happen this test branch is broken

  • @Lopsinho
    @Lopsinho 3 года назад +5

    First time I got the Lucifer rail I was like omg I'd deflect everything with athena.... it doesnt work at all...only when I touches you does it deflect. Was a bit of a trap

    • @lemmingrad
      @lemmingrad 3 года назад

      It does work with the mines. Killed Tisephone really quickly by surrounding her with mines and she killed herself with her own spiral attack.

  • @nontimetis
    @nontimetis 3 года назад +2

    Nice! New dialogue 😄

  • @stephenmemelord2303
    @stephenmemelord2303 3 года назад +4

    I take Harpie's Feather Duster because you think that the low % chance is bad until you realize the sheer quantity of vases you can find in each room.
    (was @ the comment in the video asking if anybody used the duster anymore)

    • @JulieLamia
      @JulieLamia 3 года назад

      Of course, but doubling your damage for this challenge is probably going to push you further.

    • @jasonmelanconjm
      @jasonmelanconjm 3 года назад

      @@JulieLamia plus the goal of this run was to have shackle in your inventory for the hades fight anyway, right?

  • @denizkara3928
    @denizkara3928 3 года назад +8

    Why listening to yt comments... asks the twitch chat.

  • @edwardcisabella
    @edwardcisabella 3 года назад +2

    Lol calling out poo's chat -- I feel attacked

  • @unclealai
    @unclealai 3 года назад

    Ok. I did all the fated list and keepsakes. Whats next? I mean any ending of all this? 😂😂😂

  • @JeremyFinch42
    @JeremyFinch42 3 года назад +1

    I read it as "Getting to Hades with ZERO bones".

  • @julianmartin5287
    @julianmartin5287 3 года назад +1

    Not like you need this but what if you did the same run with the only boon being Strong Drink

  • @jordanfleming7022
    @jordanfleming7022 3 года назад +1

    15:45 Would romancing Lernie technically count as polyamory?

  • @santiagoplazaboano
    @santiagoplazaboano 3 года назад +1

    Nor sure if you tried it yet, but lucifer with the artemis atack crit chance is very fun

  • @JynxTheSpooky
    @JynxTheSpooky 2 месяца назад

    I use the feather duster from tarterus to elysium. Then i change to the lucky tooth for temple of the styx and beyond.

  • @GeorgeChacon2112
    @GeorgeChacon2112 3 года назад

    Beginning of the video, " this is going to be challenging"
    Fast forward to the end....beats Hades without losing a single life 🙄😒 bruh

  • @itsmeok6205
    @itsmeok6205 3 года назад +1

    Whats with the bone hydra arena? Is it an early access thing

    • @JTGwozdz
      @JTGwozdz 3 года назад

      This is the arena if you have Extreme Measures rank 2 applied for Pact of Punishment.

    • @itsmeok6205
      @itsmeok6205 3 года назад

      @@JTGwozdz oh, haven't used extreme measures on the pact yet

  • @Annokh
    @Annokh 3 года назад +1

    Today we've learned that the Bow, the weakest weapon accordingly to some Steam forum whiners, can hit for about 1350 damage without boons.
    But seriously though, this is more damage than some of those straight-faced runs. Granted, two consequent buffs to the Shackle helped.
    Speaking of damage, did someone said something about Sea Storm nerf?..

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад

      On the test branch, tidal dash is no longer a prereq

    • @Annokh
      @Annokh 3 года назад

      @@Haelian That... doesn't sound like a nerf :)

    • @OrionJA
      @OrionJA 3 года назад +1

      @@Annokh Currently you can get it if you have any of Poseidon's core boons. The change would make it impossible to get it with just tidal dash. If you wanted to get Sea Storm with Tidal Dash, you'd have to also take Tempest Strike/Flourish or Flood Shot or Poseidon's Aid.

    • @Annokh
      @Annokh 3 года назад

      @@OrionJA Whoops.

  • @jaywalker2k387
    @jaywalker2k387 3 года назад +6

    New hades players are so interesting. I was watching someone doing a bow run and when they got to a hammer I told them that Twin Shot was arguably the best bow hammer in the game. After they picked it though, it became obvious that they were playing WAY too defensively, basically unable to take any advantage of it. Then they called me cringe for suggesting Twin Shot. Good times.

    • @jasonmelanconjm
      @jasonmelanconjm 3 года назад

      I’m speechless lmaoo

    • @Gimmerum7
      @Gimmerum7 3 года назад +1

      Best beginner friendly bow hammer is the one that takes away the power shots and gives you auto fire.
      And you just gave some beginner a bad advice and now make fun of them.

    • @jaywalker2k387
      @jaywalker2k387 3 года назад +1

      @@Gimmerum7 I didn't make fun of them though? I just thought it was interesting that a hammer seen as universally good was actually detrimental to a newer player due to their playstyle.

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  3 года назад

      Lel

    • @Gimmerum7
      @Gimmerum7 3 года назад

      @@jaywalker2k387 sorry then, guess I read it wrong :)
      I don't like double shot myself though, except for using it with Rama aspect

  • @-.-_-.-_-.-_-.-_-.-_-.-_-
    @-.-_-.-_-.-_-.-_-.-_-.-_- 2 года назад +17

    It's crazy they got 2 different unique dialogues just for this specific and rare self-challenge

  • @mibsu8914
    @mibsu8914 3 года назад +1

    I bet Hades had baaaaad day after this figth, how embarassing

  • @hugoboncar
    @hugoboncar Год назад

    I really feel like Haelian deals more damage than me in every situations and I don't understand how. Am I so bad at the game that I distort math itself ?

  • @BlackWat3rGTR
    @BlackWat3rGTR 2 года назад

    26:20 laughing at the guy in chat who said the DOW is at record highs... Welp, one year later... Here we are...

  • @acarrotte571
    @acarrotte571 3 года назад

    Wow he made it all the way to Hades with no deaths and no boons wtf. Also it would be cool if you could fight chaos

  • @ivanivanovic5857
    @ivanivanovic5857 2 года назад

    Sub-20 minutes, 20 heat, what the fuck? I can't even get under 29 minutes at 6 heat.

  • @paulrusso7893
    @paulrusso7893 2 года назад

    ok so i have this friend that i introduced to hades and he loves, but he falls for so many of this traps in the game and i keep having to push him out of them.

  • @attilabodi826
    @attilabodi826 3 года назад

    do you play w mouse and keyboard? also, how do you get him to NOT continually no stop spawn minions (for me its typically crystals with shield guys)

  • @michaelirlesberger1692
    @michaelirlesberger1692 2 года назад

    they should have made is so that dusas item makes you petrify foes you hit, is not op at all and ppl would use it, as it is rn is really really shit and no one uses it