Violent Narco Cult? Inside the Real Santa Muerte Religious Movement

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • A 4-PART BORDERLAND SPECIAL SERIES:
    EPISODE 2: THE CULT OF SANTA MUERTE
    Watch Episode 1: The Ritual Killings: Mass Graves, Cartel Secrets & Cover-ups: The True Story of the Juarez Murders • The Ritual Killings: M...
    On the southern border, there is a legal concept known as “reasonable fear.” If an asylum officer determines that a migrant has a “reasonable fear of persecution or torture” if returned to their home country, then removal procedures can be delayed. And, in the current border crisis, there’s been no greater source of “reasonable fear” cases than the Mexican drug cartels and organized crime.
    In each episode we take a deep dive into the border crisis to find the primary players behind the violence, the scope of these transnational criminal enterprises, and the state of the narco wars.
    In this episode, host Vince ‘Rocoo’ Vargas, takes a deep dive into the Santa Muerte religious movement.
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  • @thisisironclad
    @thisisironclad  2 дня назад +17

    The next episode of Reasonable Fear a 4-PART BORDERLAND SPECIAL SERIES will air on Tuesday at 5 PM EST next week. Make sure to subscribe and turn on notifications to not miss an upload.

    • @seniorsancho5024
      @seniorsancho5024 День назад

      Please stop putting the image on a smaller TV.

  • @bsmithhammer
    @bsmithhammer 2 дня назад +18

    Combatants the world over develop a twisted relationship with death, that manifests in a form of 'death/protection worship.' There are a number of Santa Muerte adherents on the law enforcement/military side of the equation in Mexico as well.

    • @brrr00007
      @brrr00007 2 дня назад +1

      Bri u aint kno shi3tt. Not dying from a battle in ur 20s is a modern thing.

    • @bsmithhammer
      @bsmithhammer 2 дня назад +1

      @@brrr00007 Ok troll.

    • @Afgrundsvisioner
      @Afgrundsvisioner День назад

      The falangists battle cry was ‘viva la muerte’, the Germans wore the totenkopf(so did the Savoyeans since the Middle Ages). A modern example of death worship/glorification can be seen in the Azov bataillion s’ funerary rites.

  • @julietlima5564
    @julietlima5564 День назад +15

    Amazing how Ghost Recon Wildlands featured this before it popped up on other people's radar

    • @IDFWU650
      @IDFWU650 День назад +3

      Watching this makes me want to go back and play it. 😂😂😂

    • @enriqueavila1463
      @enriqueavila1463 23 часа назад +2

      Hmm true but maybe the game got the idea from the cult that already existed for sometime. See, I remember when I was a kid the Mexican store would sell candles with the grim reaper on it; aka “Santa Muerte”. This is nothing new. The movement might even go back to pre-Spanish Mexico, Aztec times. Kinda like how hoodoo exists.

    • @julietlima5564
      @julietlima5564 2 часа назад

      @enriqueavila1463 the people who helped write for Ghost Recon Wildlands did their research.

  • @etherzeegz8688
    @etherzeegz8688 2 дня назад +57

    Okay ironclad the small TV thing in the middle of the screen just ain’t it make it bigger or something we tired of zooming in and out to see what the heck your even talking about…. Whoever idea that was needs to be fired

    • @seniorsancho5024
      @seniorsancho5024 День назад +3

      Fact

    • @2012escapee1
      @2012escapee1 День назад +1

      Yes

    • @ALCRAN2010
      @ALCRAN2010 День назад +5

      Its like trying to watch a bootleg ppv fight on RUclips !!
      😅🤣😂

    • @SelfMadeMostHated
      @SelfMadeMostHated День назад

      It's probably to cut down on video distortion ... The resolution on those old vids is horrible

  • @barrybrown4823
    @barrybrown4823 2 дня назад +6

    Ur work is sick

  • @alanafromoc
    @alanafromoc 22 часа назад +1

    Great episode! I remember the episode of Breaking Bad that had them crawling to the altar to worship her. It feels very close to worshipping Satan. I saw a documentary a long time ago about miners in South America worshipping "Tio", the god of the underworld, to protect them. It's concerning that so many people are practicing these dark religions.

  • @callsigncrypter9010
    @callsigncrypter9010 2 дня назад +26

    Ghost Recon Wildlands tried to warn you

  • @Sosa081
    @Sosa081 День назад +10

    More civilians venerate her than cartels. Cartels tend to practice voodoo, Santeria and yoruba. Yoruba originated in ancient Nigeria

    • @Squishysforbreakfast
      @Squishysforbreakfast День назад

      No wonder their country is how it is.

    • @Sosa081
      @Sosa081 День назад

      @@Squishysforbreakfast their economy is actually doing better now than ever before and from what I've seen lady death doesn't command you to kill people, they still believe in Jesus Christ but they also treat death like a saint.

    • @Sosa081
      @Sosa081 День назад +1

      Also these religions SOME cartel members adopted don't call for violence but they do worship ancestors and believe in reincarnation while still believing in Christ. I don't know how that works, maybe they've created a hybrid religion between the two (Christianity and Yoruba).

    • @Pensivelyexpensive
      @Pensivelyexpensive 2 часа назад +1

      @@Sosa081which it wouldn’t make sense logically or theologically speaking.

  • @Rudyelf1
    @Rudyelf1 День назад +4

    Viva Cristo Rey! Viva La Virgen de Guadalupe! Viva Mexico! Viva Los Cristeros!

  • @FORTUNENGLORY
    @FORTUNENGLORY 2 дня назад +19

    This is like trying to give a deep reason why Raider’s fans like skulls.

  • @jonathanlopes5485
    @jonathanlopes5485 2 дня назад +3

    Luv this channel

  • @erikescobar6616
    @erikescobar6616 2 дня назад +23

    Respecting death is one thing but idolizing it is something I’ll never understand

    • @CaalamusTube
      @CaalamusTube 2 дня назад +2

      That dalton guy was very apologetic! ...almost that same "there is no such thing as antifa" argument.

    • @truck3696
      @truck3696 День назад +1

      @@CaalamusTube Yeah, utterly blasphemous tbh.

    • @Yahya8.19
      @Yahya8.19 День назад

      Holy = Life
      Sins = Death

    • @Sosa081
      @Sosa081 День назад +1

      My understanding is that they respect and idolize death because we're all going to meet her at some point. Most of her followers just want protection, money opportunities or lovers.

    • @BenDavis-w7h
      @BenDavis-w7h День назад +1

      ​@@Sosa081Speak for yourself, I talk with a lot of mi familia, they don't worship her per say. They venerate her much in the same way they venerate La Virgin de Guadalupe or other saints. Mexico just has a culture very different compared to America (Almost like they originate from very different groups of people). They explained to me, if you want to be comfortable in life, then don't fear death as that's how you're meeting Your maker anyway. ( Wake up Christians! You have to die to get to heaven anyway so why are we trying to discriminate against each other

  • @AxelB22
    @AxelB22 День назад +5

    Me and my gf have been a devotee for a couple years now. What she has done for me and my gf is justice and protection through difficult times that me and her went through. We don’t do anything bad it’s all how you want to want them to work. Respect her!

    • @cantkillcliffrose
      @cantkillcliffrose День назад

      You and your gf are not bright😂😂😂😂

    • @Rudyelf1
      @Rudyelf1 День назад +5

      Christ is King! Say it!

    • @thatsnodildo1974
      @thatsnodildo1974 День назад +2

      You worhship a demon

    • @AxelB22
      @AxelB22 День назад

      @@thatsnodildo1974 mind your business

    • @AxelB22
      @AxelB22 День назад

      @@cantkillcliffrose and you are?

  • @davidbryanttrucking
    @davidbryanttrucking День назад +8

    When a group like the Romans attempts to absorb entire cultures, this is what happens. Celtic religious fusion art mixes Celtic tribal symbolism using Christian iconography like a palimpsest. Santa muerta seems like the preservation of the significance of a Doula. Basically a tribes medicine women/ mid-wife. She's not the grim reaper. She's more like mother nature. Jordan Peterson would describe this version as the devouring mother. A mother who loves you no matter what you do so long as you adore her above all other's. The sacred feminine is already occulted inside of Catholicism, but they valued the submission nurturing aspects of that, where as the tribal versions appreciate the duality of nature version which can also feel cruel and unforgiving. Most people in Western societies haven't had to suffer the elements and live outside in so long they forget until there's a natural disaster that we are primal animal's, and that tribalism is a means to survive in an unforgiving world. They know that makes sense but they have no actual sense of what it means.
    Mexican culture in general treats all of their deceased relatives with the same reverence as a Catholic would any of the saints. The day of the dead is part of that celebration. If I had to guess as to what the significance of the cartel's not leaving a body for the family to bury is on a cultural level it's to emphasize their control over your life and death, eternally. That hits different in Mexican culture than it does in the states where we've had milk carton kid's for decades and the general population could seemingly care less.
    In some tribal cultures when a family member dies, they are basically mummified and brought home to be available for everyone to be able to come and speak with them and air out their grievances for weeks, months, how ever long it takes for everyone to feel like they have let go all of their negative emotions related to the person's memory, before they are given a burial. That way when they talk about that person in their stories within their tribe there is only positive things said and that person can rest peacefully in the afterlife.
    Sante Muerta by itself isn't a bad thing... Just like any religion or belief system, corrupt people will use it to influence believer's to their own ends.
    The Catholic Church is a perfect example of that. They allegedly no longer offer indulgences as part of their religion... But all the scandals they've had with the priesthood and how they handled that, would indicate otherwise.
    You can give a psychopath or a megalomaniac any set of tools and they will figure out the best way to use it to control their victims. That isn't the belief systems fault, it's an aspect of humanity. Some people's religion is politics. Arguably the most successful religion in western society. Politicians are frequently treated like saints and worshipped enjoying life time appointments like a priest, who gets paid better. 😬
    I don't know how many people here have seen the video of a female human trafficker for the cartel acting like she was possessed by what the unaware would characterize as a demon. But what I saw in that video was a female using the fear of the potential eternal damnation as prescribed within the beliefs I just typed about, as an additional means of control of groups of migrants who would out number the smugglers 10 to one. You need more than the threat of physical violence to control a group of people under duress like that or they'd just turn on their smugglers. She's like the undertaker, not the literal one, the pro wrestler. Some people know pro wrestling is an act but enjoy it anyway, some people believe it's 100% real. Either way both know that the violence and threat of physical harm is absolutely real. It's that little extra control over the world view that gives those smugglers an advantage when dealing with a large group of migrants.
    It's just an observation, take it or leave it. But if you're paying attention we have the same problems here, where two people tried to shoot a former president in less than a month, and the people currently in control of the executive branch did seemingly nothing to mitigate the problem until the majority of people agreed that was wrong, regardless of their political beliefs.
    The part of the that group of migrants who are genuinely afraid of spiritual consequences for betraying their captures makes them just as likely to go after a member of the group who is trying to organize a mutiny as the smugglers themselves. Kinda like Stockholm syndrome, but different. 🤔

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall2023 День назад +2

    Dauphin River First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

  • @michaelgeisenheimer7562
    @michaelgeisenheimer7562 17 часов назад

    Hi I'm from Australia and I love Santa Muerte ever since she entered my life my life has gotten so much better I'm so grateful to have her in my life she is a loving mother to me may the boneone bless you 💀💀💀🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️

  • @TacosandRum
    @TacosandRum День назад +2

    Post 2001?! My guy this been going on far longer then that.

  • @enriqueavila1463
    @enriqueavila1463 23 часа назад +1

    The Santa Muerte belief reminds me of The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz. It’s important to live every day like it’s your last. Death is simply like a transformation, and knowing this taught me to be really grateful when times were difficult. My grandpa has a booklet on a Catholic prayer for la Santa Muerte. It’s something you do several times a day, and it surprised me how religious and official the pamphlet was. I was surprised; at first glance worshipping death looked like some Satanic black magic destructo-cult or something. Nope, The Catholic Church has this with them somehow too. I’m like, learning about my own culture and religion right now, it’s neat.

  • @Patriotx-gx4ce
    @Patriotx-gx4ce День назад +1

    From ripping hearts out thousands years ago not much has changed.

  • @brrr00007
    @brrr00007 2 дня назад +1

    And they will know the power of belief. The importance of the soul and the psyche

  • @DeborahFlorian-gy6lw
    @DeborahFlorian-gy6lw 2 дня назад +5

    Looking forward to this episode.

  • @dposting2941
    @dposting2941 День назад +2

    The spiritual war is real, in our faces, and the sidelines are evaporating under our very feet. The silver lining: the rise in evil have led many of us to Christ, and confronting the evil within.

  • @raul9937
    @raul9937 4 часа назад

    The interview view a TV that’s frame in smaller really sucks. Whoever made that creative decision, please don’t do it again it’s really distracting. I understand the video quality is low, it’s okay, we’d rather deal with that.

  • @tami8933
    @tami8933 День назад

    I think they chill in my complex all day.

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall2023 2 дня назад +1

    Lake St. Martin First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

  • @Tepaneca
    @Tepaneca День назад +1

    Praise Her 💀📿🙏🛐

  • @archangelministries2265
    @archangelministries2265 День назад

    A bit surprised that you didn't cover Adolfo Constanzo. How can you cover cult activity without actually addressing the occult activities connected to it?

  • @robertcoppola9061
    @robertcoppola9061 День назад +7

    Awesome to see we make everyone with a spiritual belief lumped together and made to look dangerous and evil. Reminds me of this German group from the 1930s and 40s.

    • @cantkillcliffrose
      @cantkillcliffrose День назад

      Spiritual is anti-human

    • @urwrstntmre
      @urwrstntmre День назад

      Ever read the Talmud?

    • @timothybaker1038
      @timothybaker1038 День назад

      It’s wrong to put everyone in one group. I’ve worshipped an a devotee for 31 years I’m 34. I’m not a cartel member. She’s been with me all my life. An taken care of me. I’ve learned a lot from her. An being a Alexandria Wiccan and medicine man

    • @roadblock0876
      @roadblock0876 День назад

      @@timothybaker1038 You're a medicine man? What do you mean exactly?

    • @roadblock0876
      @roadblock0876 День назад

      How full of shit are you?

  • @LastKing-qm4ch
    @LastKing-qm4ch День назад +2

    Why the screen so small?????

  • @arcangelkriz1561
    @arcangelkriz1561 День назад +3

    God came in the flesh an defeated death. By rising on the third day.

    • @Pedrodelfierro
      @Pedrodelfierro День назад

      That what the European told us with fake religions just causing wars

  • @felixthecat4584
    @felixthecat4584 День назад +8

    I have been a devotee for 15 years.
    Santa is not just for narcos, she has protected me and guided me through many difficult times.
    Although, people do tend to be surprised when they see a gringo worshiping.

  • @R8TiGriot
    @R8TiGriot День назад

    Vince, you have interviewed at least one practioner who was/is not cartel.

  • @user-chadheadb
    @user-chadheadb День назад

    Another zoom call on an even smaller TV again. I can't do it.

  • @brandonphillips9813
    @brandonphillips9813 День назад

    PLEASE STOP WITH THE SMALL TV. IT IS RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!! 🛑 🛑 🛑 🛑 STOP DOING IT. 🛑

  • @osawatomie
    @osawatomie День назад +3

    JUST MORE WAR PROPAGANDA! THIS WAR WILL BE IRONIC

    • @osawatomie
      @osawatomie День назад +1

      Brave and uninformed people will fight this war on the orders and influence of those who worship death 💔😥

  • @XocolatlxVida
    @XocolatlxVida День назад

    It’s not a religious movement it’s a spiritual one

  • @ant9771
    @ant9771 День назад

    We may have a chance at changing the world if we produced videos on ACTUAL saints. But no, we go into 30 minutes on devilish mythological characters. Disappointed tbh.

  • @ChristopherPena-ii4sy
    @ChristopherPena-ii4sy 9 часов назад

    there's also a lot of serial killers who are christians 😵

  • @I_am_ka
    @I_am_ka День назад

    *Azrael = AngelIfDeath aka The 1st Born*
    The One who smoked Egypt. Notorious SantaMuerte The Black Maria, the Mother. The feminine, caring side of death. Death and its agency come in many forms. So real & so felt. Ppl talk of their bones & teeth sweating, buzzing when she enters the zone. To the Bone!

  • @joeyandlucas2013
    @joeyandlucas2013 8 часов назад

    Satan masquerades as a Angel of light, Repent

  • @DillyDilly0420
    @DillyDilly0420 2 дня назад

    👹

  • @Sarita-ci9wc
    @Sarita-ci9wc День назад +5

    Forms of idol worship is sickening.

    • @XocolatlxVida
      @XocolatlxVida День назад

      So is your comment

    • @Rudyelf1
      @Rudyelf1 День назад

      @@XocolatlxVidano. His comment is based AF. Christ is King!

    • @Sarita-ci9wc
      @Sarita-ci9wc 23 часа назад

      Your definitely confused. Bot?

  • @boop79
    @boop79 День назад +2

    Truly demonic

  • @skinnypoorchild414
    @skinnypoorchild414 5 часов назад

    This is baal worship

  • @generalmalice7941
    @generalmalice7941 День назад

    I'm about to ask la flaca for a favor

  • @tami8933
    @tami8933 День назад

    Siaba

  • @Randall2023
    @Randall2023 2 дня назад +6

    Love ❤️ Indigenous people Indigenous Culture Native Americans 🐢🏝️🪶🦌🐺🐻🦅❤️👑🇨🇦🇺🇸

    • @cruzitomaury4529
      @cruzitomaury4529 2 дня назад +2

      We're is my flag Mexicans we are American too hypocrite

    • @MacTheCelt301
      @MacTheCelt301 День назад +4

      Love ❤️ Indigenous people of Europe Indigenous Culture Native Europeans!!!! Europes is for Europeans!!!!! 😆👍😁😝🎉🎉🎉

    • @Tepaneca
      @Tepaneca День назад

      ​@@MacTheCelt301not anymore it aint

  • @Yahya8.19
    @Yahya8.19 День назад +5

    Demons calling themselves saints.

  • @robbiemurda2213
    @robbiemurda2213 2 дня назад

    Chama

  • @osawatomie
    @osawatomie День назад

    So is it a religion or cult?

    • @vgee3926
      @vgee3926 День назад +1

      Just a religious belief

    • @XocolatlxVida
      @XocolatlxVida День назад +2

      Neither it’s a spiritual practice

    • @enriqueavila1463
      @enriqueavila1463 23 часа назад

      I think it’s a sect. The violent ones are definitely cults

  • @2012escapee1
    @2012escapee1 День назад +1

    That Santa Muerte expert sure makes a lot of excuses for it. Pretty sure he has an altar in his house.

  • @Pedrodelfierro
    @Pedrodelfierro День назад

    All religions lead to war lol

  • @yesormaybeno
    @yesormaybeno 2 дня назад

    Most of this is true but it's not the one the cartel follows

    • @mikehoncho4637
      @mikehoncho4637 2 дня назад

      What do you mean?

    • @MultiMonicaM
      @MultiMonicaM День назад +1

      Palo Mayombe, Santeria and Voodoo are also now cartel related. Started with Adolfo Constanzo

  • @vgee3926
    @vgee3926 День назад

    Pretty disrespectful to call a religious belief a "cult"

    • @ALCRAN2010
      @ALCRAN2010 День назад

      A man built a golden skyscraper. Millions adore him. Cults are weird.

    • @Rudyelf1
      @Rudyelf1 День назад

      @@ALCRAN2010when did Obama build anything?

  • @williamrosales5718
    @williamrosales5718 День назад +2

    "we love death. The 🇺🇸 loves life. That is the difference between us two"
    Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb yeshua. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our deaths. Ooh ra.

    • @erikescobar6616
      @erikescobar6616 День назад

      I wouldn’t go that far. The US loves money and will do anything to get to it. We got plenty of blood on our hands and we are no better than these people just hide it better and have others do our bidding

  • @ElPapiiBreezy
    @ElPapiiBreezy 6 часов назад

    Blaming La Santa Muerte for Cartels is like blaming Islam for Terrorists

    • @skinnypoorchild414
      @skinnypoorchild414 3 часа назад

      Islam is exactly why terrorist do what they do to people. It preaches to spread its word by the sword.

  • @shirleygriffin7672
    @shirleygriffin7672 2 дня назад +2

    Religion free here m since 1980, March. Never looked back

  • @orderoftheblackshield
    @orderoftheblackshield День назад

    No digas mmds

  • @jjayp1
    @jjayp1 23 часа назад

    No offense, but this production is terrible

  • @SammyHangDemonofDemons
    @SammyHangDemonofDemons 2 дня назад +9

    Do these practitioners not realize how the Soul is utilized for Magick? It can affect families for generations. 😂

    • @brrr00007
      @brrr00007 2 дня назад

      Its a spectrum. Clearly

    • @CaalamusTube
      @CaalamusTube 2 дня назад +4

      Study the history of Mexico.

  • @cantkillcliffrose
    @cantkillcliffrose День назад +3

    still less evil than the Christianity

    • @erikescobar6616
      @erikescobar6616 День назад

      The Christian/Catholic Church have done some evil shit but Christianity ain’t evil lil bro

    • @Rudyelf1
      @Rudyelf1 День назад

      Okay edgelord

    • @cantkillcliffrose
      @cantkillcliffrose 4 часа назад

      @@Rudyelf1 history, numb nuts. Learn it. Christianity is a cancer on this earth.