The Bulls keeping everyone makes zero sense. They coulda rebuilt so well for the future cause there were so many buyers, but they kept everyone for what? to lose in the first round at best..
Agreed with the Bulls even if it was impossible to move Lavine. They still could have moved Demar or Carsuo in the deadline and get started on rebuilding
Word around the league insiders is that no one was really interested in anyone besides Caruso. Kings talked to em bout derozen, and pacers called bout Lavine, but the asking price was just crazy
Front office is too stubborn to rebuild as that will admit their past transactions has now failed. If i was Demars' agent, ill be overjoyed as there is so much less leverage for the Bulls when his contract extension happens.
As a Dallas fan, I’m so pleasantly surprised. Mavs literally fixed their center rotation issues after so many years finally with Gafford to backup/split minutes with Lively and got a better wing in PJ after it didn’t work out with Grant, all while keeping Green and the other young guys. All of that with them also being one of the top teams trying to get Dinwiddie in the buyout market supposedly makes me very happy and stoked. I know some of the pick stuff we did might not be ideal, but it’s obvious our FO is trying to win, so they’re going for it.
@@KevinHoang-j4d im a bulls fan and you guys are the reason this team is so fucking bad. Ppl like you settle for mid, and bring in ticket revenue for that dirty money pig jerry reisendorf. im done w this stupid fucking organization
I think a lot of people will look at the Pacers and think they lost. But I don’t think so. Buddy is more valuable to the sixers than he is to the Pacers. A non Pacers watcher wouldn’t be able to tell, but Buddy is a lot worse than he was last season. Yes he shoots 38% but I could count on one hand the number of great shooting performances he’s had this year. Pretty sure he only has the 6th best 3P% on the team. Lots of times he shoots himself off the floor. And is a total defensive liability that gets us killed. Additionally he’s a player that wants to start or at least be a 6th man. And if he wasn’t shooting well for us (most nights) we’d play other guards over him. Plus they didn’t plan on resigning him. So they basically cleared cap space in the off-season for an addition by subtraction move. Doug McDermott will be more comfortable in a smaller role, is shooting 44% from 3 (!!!), and Hali will give his game a boost. Ideal Buddy replacement imo.
Buddy is overrated. Lakers fans where hyping him up when he was rumored to be traded here years ago but like you go over he only does one thing and is streaky, when his shot isn't falling what value does he have?
Thank you for this, I haven’t been able to watch as many games as I’d like to this year and was a bit confused by this trade but now with your explanation it makes complete sense from Indiana’s side 👍🏻
I’m not saying anything you said was wrong, but he’s one of the best shooters of this generation. It’s not like he was a once freak athlete who got old and started slowing down. He’s a shooter. He’s in a shooting slump. It’s not a skill that just disappears. It’s not a matter of opinion or even a question, he’s going to get his rhythm back eventually. Trading somebody like that because they’re having a bad start to the season is kinda odd, but I can understand. Especially with his contract, I get it. Trading him to a team you’ll likely see in the playoffs is downright braindead though. He’s a shooter and shooters get in slumps sometimes. Once he finds his shot again, which he will, this trade won’t look as good basketball-wise.
@@jamiegaskins3687 I agree, I loved him as a shooter last year. But I’ve watched like 90% of games this year and he hasn’t been lethal from 3 since like the first month or 2 of the season
The Knicks won the trade deadline they pretty much replaced Quickley by adding two great shooters in Burks and Bogdonavic. The Knicks are a dark horse to get out of the East and they can definitely make the eastern conference finals
I don’t understand the DET hate at all for this deadline. Obv their FO is dog water, Monty is crazy, etc…but they couldn’t just keeping bringing back 35yo Bojan back every year and relying on him to create shots. Fontecchio is a 6’8 shooter, smart, can play the 3 which DET lacks badly. They just need actual NBA players lol, and he’s cheap (RFA this summer, shouldn’t be expensive to re sign) has size and can shoot. Idk what delusional ppl thought DET was gonna get QG for Burks straight up, let alone also get two seconds lol. PHI called DET about Burks, and I assume the offer was something like hey take Marcus Morris for Burks bc it’ll save us 6M & get us out of the tax, and we’ll give you a couple seconds. Like he didn’t have high value on an expiring. I did not hear a single word about anyone coming with a 1st for Bojan. They should’ve moved him last deadline or w/e obv when he had good value, but he was prolly in the few seconds type of range rn…or a premium 2nd or two. So close to 1st round value, but not quite. QG IMO had first round value. He has this year and next super cheap, then RFA. He’s like 6’5, has been 38% 3P on pretty good volume, and can defend. He’s also 23yo. DET badly needs guys who can shoot and have some size/can be not terrible on defense. Bojan and Burks for QG & a couple seconds made sense to me. It’s like Bojan is almost FRP value, especially for the right team, Burks is worth a cpl seconds, QG has FRP value. So the math works out there and I think both teams got what they wanted. I know two teams can never both benefit from a trade, but maybe that’s what happened. DET waived Killian so Monty can’t play him anymore. Ivey went beast mode last night or w/e. Adding QG/Simone and TBJr adds 3 guys who are 6’5-6’8, can shoot 3s, and are wings/Fs. Not a glamorous trade deadline, but a solid one, and at least they didn’t trade for LaVine 😂
As a Min fan, I hope TBJ does well for y’all - I like his game and potential, he just couldn’t break through on a stacked Min team (even though he prob deserved more minutes than what Finch gave him)
1. Torontos moves are weird because they didn't flip Olynyk or Bruce Brown when that could've been a package potentially 2. The "Dwight Powell will still play 7 minutes at center" is the most stable position in a franchise at this point
Everyone was complaining about their front office making iffy moves, and then I showed them the Bull's press conference with AKME today. They all apologized.
I hear you on the Grimes is essentially a 1st but hes not. The value in 1st round picks is the cost controlled contract. Grimes will need to be paid soon, which is why I think Knicks trading him instead of a 1st is extremely smart. Exactly the same reason they were willing to trade Quickley instead of a 1st.
I just don’t understand how there are so many teams that need to start over, and so many teams who are a couple of role players away from competing for championships, and somehow nothing happened. I know we’ve been spoiled the past few years with these insane deadlines, but this one just didn’t make sense. Maybe the buyout market will be big this year. Got a lot of quality role players wasting away on teams that aren’t using them. PJ Tucker is going somewhere for sure
Have you noticed how the league has crammed Tatum down our throats for like 3 years now? Bron and Steph are on their way out, and all the best players are foreign. The league has been so desperate to get people to take Tatum and Booker seriously so they can have an American face of the league in a few years. It started with Zion, then they tried to push Booker on us, and now it’s Tatum. Notice Boston and Phoenix flukey Final’s appearances in recent years. (Also the play-in was only created in an attempt to get Zion in the playoffs in 2020). The league is desperate
@@jamiegaskins3687 how could you be so passionately incorrect For your sake, honestly you only hurt yourself if anything but I’m sure this is a character trait you carry around on a daily basis just get that checked out for your wellbeing
Lakers front office basically confirmed that they have given up on the LeBron and AD era. The roster they have now isnt taking them anywhere. If I'm LeBron I'm definitely considering asking for a trade.
There's no trade the Lakers could've done that was a big enough positive to bring them firmly into championship contention. Unless Phil Jackson or something other legendary coach randomly says they'll come on board if Ham is fired today there's no move to be made. This FO has routinely failed on the margins and that's biting them now. We can only hope they aren't actually stupid enough to side with Ham over LeBron like what Irwin is allegedly reporting.
They f up firing Vogel and are stuck with ham this team is good enough with bron dlo ar15 rui and ad(if ad and bron are healthy and ad is aggressive) but ham and poor shooters is the main reason there not winning or even challenging
@@jadencedras6878 Agreed. Vogel got scapegoated unfairly via Westbrook and putting a team together that was purposefully not suited to Vogel's strengths. Ham is one of the worst coaches in the league like Boylen and Beilen tier bad. This team is too talented to be just at 500 record wise.
The common factor is lebron James. Lakers would've been fine if they built around AD. He carries that stable and James poisons everything he touches. Let him ruin some other team
Literally nothing for my Hawks.. not even a small improvement… i needed either Hunter, Saddiq or CC traded for something better. Front office and ownership.. count y’all days man😤
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 That report literally stems from the fact the Mavs played the Nets at home and he was still there in the building and the beat report being "cautiously optimistic" they could sign him. If something more concrete surfaces later sure not this one though.
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 At the Lakers game he was talking to Pelinka with his agent in tow. I don't think he's made his mind up yet between Lakers or Mavs and is weighing his options.
@@CrazyxEnigma could be, but the Lakers will be a play in team and the Mavs will be top 6, the Mavs can pay more AND he is familiar with the Mavs. Seems like an easy choice tbh.
I mean I think LAL had that offer of DLo+’29 1st+’28 swap+JHS for him. And I’m sure there would’ve been a 3rd team to take on DLo for the expiring. So it’s okay well Trae and Dejounte don’t fit, you’re gonna have to move him…but you have this summer if you think more suitors will be out there. Are you gonna get better offers than ‘29 LAL 1st+’28 swap+JHS+expiring $? I’m sure LAL would’ve thrown in a couple seconds or whatever the F. They gave up a fake CHA 1st, (will end up as two 2nds) then their own ‘25/‘27 1sts & ‘26 swap. So they rly only gave up two 1sts, a swap (and one that prolly doesn’t have crazy upside) and two 2nds for Dejounte afaik. I mean if that LAL 1st was unprotected, or close (like T1, T2) then it’d instantly be one of the highest upside picks out there. If it’s unprotected, it’d be up there with like LAC ‘28 1st and stuff like that. ‘28 swap was surely unprotected, and again that has extremely high upside. Like if they were really holding off bc they wanted two 1sts & a swap bc it’s what they gave up, that seems not smart. I bet if you got the LAL ‘29 unprotected 1st, you could send it to OKC for two of their 1sts if quantity mattered more to them. And JHS isn’t 1st round value obv, but he’s young and has upside. On a rookie deal for 4y. I’d at least consider him to be worth those two CHA 2nds that fake 1st turns in to. But idk, they’re 8M under the tax next year without counting their 1st rounder, counting the non gtds of Bruno Fernando and Garrison. Saddiq is an RFA. Their 1st should be at least a few million, plus I forgot they have SAC’s. So they’d be pretty much at the tax line with the current 12 plus two 1sts. They won’t have their own 1st next season, and even tho Jalen Johnson is awesome now, they’re not gonna be good. The big thing about trading Dejounte or whoever for an expiring now, is that’s all off ur books next year. If you trade him next year, you can prolly shave some salary…but you’re not cleaning 25.5M off your books. And by trading Dejounte now, it would’ve seemingly made them worse also, which means higher lotto odds. They’re the 10 seed somehow at 22-29, 9th best lotto odds but still in the play in. No way they’re cracking the T4, or even T5 really…but they def could’ve had BKN and either TOR or MEM jump them. Maybe both. So instead of being around the play in, prolly looking at around the 6th or 7th best odds. If you’re 7, you’re like 86% to be T8. About 32% chance at T4. 6 gives you a 37.2% chance at T4, and you’re T7 about 76%. Vs where they are now, about 14% at T4 and T10 about 80%. And that’s if you don’t luck in to the play in. So basically a 32-37% chance at T4, and at least a T8 pick, vs prolly 10-11, or if you win the play in you’re like 15. That’s a pretty big difference. And ya it’s not the best draft whatever, having a pick in the mid teens and then one in the T8…with extra draft capital and being COMFORTABLY below the tax to where you can use the full MLE…that’s enormous. They’d have Capela on a big expiring, and they could completely re-shape that roster. They’d have the draft capital to make a big move (T8, mid teens, ‘29, ‘31, LAL ‘29 pick, etc) or do whatever. Now they’re kinda stuck. Idk who the team is that’s gonna be offering like two good 1sts and a swap for Dejounte, you have limited flexibility, and you’re in no man’s land basically. But I guess if LAL wasn’t actually willing to offer that (even tho every report said they were lol) then nothing you can do. Now you just gotta hope UTA or BKN or someone like that sees Dejounte as a building block and gives you what you want. I def wouldn’t wanna be ATL rn.
@@haseebdawar4760 so are you comfortable with giving an extension to fultz? Because his contact is up at the end of the season if we would've traded him we could've used the last half of the season to have the new player gell with the rest you know since we're not going anywhere this season with his history of injuries and lack of offense
I hate that Olynyk trade for both teams. For the Jazz it's like cool we got a first round pick for Olynyk. In a vacuum thats good business. But the thing is that if they're planning long-term then they should be wanting the first that they owe to OKC to convey this year to free up all of their future draft capital. And without Olynyk it becomes extremely hard. He was important for them. I just don't think that valuing the 27th or 28th pick in 2024 over freeing their own 2025 or 2026 pick was wise. And for the Raptors it's like okay Olynyk is a good player and we'll probably re-sign him in the offseason and Agbaji was a lottery pick a few years ago. We're just giving up a late first? You can talk yourself into it. But you just started a rebuild. Olynyk is about to turn 33. Agbaji hasn't shown anything beyond on ball defense and the ability to hit a corner 3 (sometimes). Everything else has been bad. If I'm them I'd just much rather keep the 2024 pick and more years of team/cost control. It seems like one of those deals where the teams discussed it, knew it was bad and then slowly talked themselves into it lol.
The thing with Murray is that the Hawks were never going to recoup everything they gave up for him. That trade was an overpay from the word go. And he has regressed as a defender, even though it’s not all his fault. He isn’t the player he was in San Antonio.
As a Raps fan, enjoy the full OG experience Knicks fans! The guy is awesome, but is alwayssssss hurt. And it's usually just random chance injuries. This year he cut his finger chopping cucumbers and was out for like 5 games! He's good for 60-65 games max.
As a kings fan I truly don’t think Sixers fans are ready to truly see Buddy play. I know sixers fan are ruthless towards their players who underperform.
It really not that hard. Embiid got hurt so other teams decided that it was worth trying their chances. And some teams also decided to upgrade their depth like the Knicks did. Right now the sixers goal was to get under the luxury tax per new cba rules. We are not sure if joel will be able to comeback this season and I think honestly he should take the whole season off to rehab that knee as much as possible. His health is a priority.
Atlanta should honestly push for Ben Simmons him and trae would be perfect. The lob threats, the defense hell make up for and the fact he's not trying to score 30+ would let trae still go crazy.
Simmons is cooked. His back problems are a major concern and that contract is an albatross. It'd be one thing if he's waived and the Hawks get him for nothing but I honestly doubt he'll play again when that contract expires.
Daryl morey lying to Pat bev and trading marcus Morris after he finally got to play for his city is not a good look for attracting talent this offseason and im a Philly diehard
Ehhh Pat bev has been traded so many times I don’t think it matters, announcing he was traded on his podcast or not, didn’t know Morris was from here but hopefully this means more minutes for ROCO. I think we pickup Lowry in the buyout market and it’s a wash.
@@TriuneWorshipper the worst trade was the Springer one. The pat one was like “okay Morey is fucking stupid but Payne and a 2nd isn’t terrible” Springer to the fucking Celtics for a second is malpractice and Morey needs to be gone by the morning.
@@Versace2xIt was a reference. That's what Kings owner Vivek Ranadive said when Sac traded Cousins for Hield. People made fun of him for the comment. Buddy is only slightly bigger and sturdier than Steph though. The former is 6:4 ish.
You ok? Why don't you research what pick they gave up. It is the worst pick among the other picks they currently have. It is like drafting Flynn and look what you got. So it is no big deal. Plus, Toronto has a rotation player to play with the young core. Freed up 2 space and now we can sign someone to fill in the space. 😮😮
No it's really not that bad. KO is a really nice floor spacing f/c to have with Scottie and Jak. Ochai is a really solid shooter and wing defender that we can develop. If that means giving up what's likely gonna be one of the last 5 or so first round picks in a weak class then I'll live with it. Plus if Kelly walks this summer that's more cap space we open up to bring in some real players
As a neutral fan of the game, I am so so disappointed in all the teams who decided to stay put. The kings, Blazers, bulls, Lakers, and even the wizards not trading Kyle Kuzma all were very disappointing.
@@BellPepperProductions It’s funny how they started this lowkey spread of misinformation. Thinking back on this reply (I’ve legit never come back to a comment section before, I never thought I’d be doing something this idiotic with my time…there’s like a 0% chance you read this but I was SO bored I was hitting random buttons on here and found this) I didn’t even consider you thought that was the rule for any other reason, in my mind it had to be 2K. That’s prolly not true, but it’s like 99% of people who ask it. Stupid game. Speaking of 99%, there’s a 99%+ chance nobody will ever read this ever in life. If you are reading this I hope you have a great day, and/or night. You’re gonna win the lottery or something.
I feel like people are being way too generous to Dallas. The PJ Washington trade is awful. Top 2 protected pick in 2027? Given Dallas's potential for implosion, that might be one of the juiciest picks in the entire league. Plus a useful player in Grant Williams? I feel like if it wasn't Charlotte on the other end of the trade, people would be skewering Dallas and praising the team getting the pick.
Grant Williams forgot how to shoot and is quite simply too undersized to be a starting PF. Luka is one of the 5 best players in the league and the Mavs should be in win now mode for as long as they have him. Punting on the season because you’re too stingy with your picks to get your franchise player a reasonable defensive forward is a sure fire way to make sure an implosion happens sooner rather than later.
Dude stop that narrative man the dude has had all the help he freaking needs man every team he goes to it's lebron needs more help it's never his fault dude is not the goat he will never be anywhere near Jordan man
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The Bulls keeping everyone makes zero sense. They coulda rebuilt so well for the future cause there were so many buyers, but they kept everyone for what? to lose in the first round at best..
Agreed with the Bulls even if it was impossible to move Lavine. They still could have moved Demar or Carsuo in the deadline and get started on rebuilding
Word around the league insiders is that no one was really interested in anyone besides Caruso. Kings talked to em bout derozen, and pacers called bout Lavine, but the asking price was just crazy
@@jalenjohnson0339 Caruso, Demar, Vuc, Drummond all would have net them some picks since the Hawks, Wizards, and Blazers weren't dealing their vets.
Front office is too stubborn to rebuild as that will admit their past transactions has now failed.
If i was Demars' agent, ill be overjoyed as there is so much less leverage for the Bulls when his contract extension happens.
It makes sense when you realize the bulls are over valuing all their players
A lot of ppl here bashing the Bulls just don’t understand the thrill of play-in basketball 🤷♂️
😂😂
ideally they should have gotten part bev
they aint makin the playin like this, coming from a bulls fan
“killian hayes got waived , shoutout to killian” 😂😂😂 i am so fed up 😂
A big point guard be great for Milwaukee
@@theetruth8626no just watch one piston game 💀
@@theetruth8626There's a reason the worst team in the league waived him.
@@CrazyxEnigma because they don't know how to use him correctly or motivate him correctly. Detroit has a history of that with their players.
@@CrazyxEnigma same thing they did with Khris Middleton. Then Milwaukee brung that talent out that Detroit couldn't
My favorite part of the deadline was Pat Bev announcing his own trade
As a Dallas fan, I’m so pleasantly surprised. Mavs literally fixed their center rotation issues after so many years finally with Gafford to backup/split minutes with Lively and got a better wing in PJ after it didn’t work out with Grant, all while keeping Green and the other young guys. All of that with them also being one of the top teams trying to get Dinwiddie in the buyout market supposedly makes me very happy and stoked. I know some of the pick stuff we did might not be ideal, but it’s obvious our FO is trying to win, so they’re going for it.
lmao
@@yungvinnii lmao you’ll see, in Nico we trust and forget them picks when you have Luka and kyrie on your team. Contenders fr
Once we sign Spencer we lit for the rest of the season
I love the Mavs moves, both guys are a really good fit and they get much needed front court help.
I must say getting gafford was perfect for them cause without lively they really needed a rebounding big
Was just watching kenny rant about the Bulls deadline, ready for your takes 💪🏼
The bulls are contenders, watch when playoff time comes around.
lmao delusional@@KevinHoang-j4d
@@KevinHoang-j4d im a bulls fan and you guys are the reason this team is so fucking bad. Ppl like you settle for mid, and bring in ticket revenue for that dirty money pig jerry reisendorf. im done w this stupid fucking organization
@@KevinHoang-j4ddawg are you trolling? This ain't the 90s anymore
@@KevinHoang-j4dyou crazy as hell
No big names, but this deadline was still pretty cool. Gordon to OKC, and pat bev to the bucks are pretty funny trades
For a moment I thought you were talking about Aaron Gordon
I think a lot of people will look at the Pacers and think they lost. But I don’t think so. Buddy is more valuable to the sixers than he is to the Pacers. A non Pacers watcher wouldn’t be able to tell, but Buddy is a lot worse than he was last season. Yes he shoots 38% but I could count on one hand the number of great shooting performances he’s had this year. Pretty sure he only has the 6th best 3P% on the team. Lots of times he shoots himself off the floor. And is a total defensive liability that gets us killed. Additionally he’s a player that wants to start or at least be a 6th man. And if he wasn’t shooting well for us (most nights) we’d play other guards over him. Plus they didn’t plan on resigning him. So they basically cleared cap space in the off-season for an addition by subtraction move. Doug McDermott will be more comfortable in a smaller role, is shooting 44% from 3 (!!!), and Hali will give his game a boost. Ideal Buddy replacement imo.
Buddy is overrated. Lakers fans where hyping him up when he was rumored to be traded here years ago but like you go over he only does one thing and is streaky, when his shot isn't falling what value does he have?
Thank you for this, I haven’t been able to watch as many games as I’d like to this year and was a bit confused by this trade but now with your explanation it makes complete sense from Indiana’s side 👍🏻
I’m not saying anything you said was wrong, but he’s one of the best shooters of this generation. It’s not like he was a once freak athlete who got old and started slowing down. He’s a shooter. He’s in a shooting slump. It’s not a skill that just disappears. It’s not a matter of opinion or even a question, he’s going to get his rhythm back eventually. Trading somebody like that because they’re having a bad start to the season is kinda odd, but I can understand. Especially with his contract, I get it. Trading him to a team you’ll likely see in the playoffs is downright braindead though. He’s a shooter and shooters get in slumps sometimes. Once he finds his shot again, which he will, this trade won’t look as good basketball-wise.
I think the main criticism is just that they sat on him too long and probably should’ve traded him a while ago
@@jamiegaskins3687 I agree, I loved him as a shooter last year. But I’ve watched like 90% of games this year and he hasn’t been lethal from 3 since like the first month or 2 of the season
Shout-out to 25 yr old 40 yr old Xavier Tillman
Killian Hayes got waived, shoutout to KOC for saying he should’ve been the number 1 pick in 2020 😂😂😂😂
The Knicks won the trade deadline they pretty much replaced Quickley by adding two great shooters in Burks and Bogdonavic.
The Knicks are a dark horse to get out of the East and they can definitely make the eastern conference finals
I think they have the best chance other than the Celtics personally. Embiid injury and Doc Rivers becoming the Bucks coach has changed things.
Dang you are probably right. Who would have thought @@CrazyxEnigma
Half our team shits itself in the playoffs so we'll see if that was circumstantial or not
Bruh stop it the conference finals still Milwaukee and Boston
@@theetruth8626 You actually believe in a team that is coached by Doc and how terrible the Bucks are playing lately alright bro 😂
DeJounte... Atlanta was asking too much for him.
Cause they gave too much for dejaunte
@Gman333g DeJounte's defense has not been good.
@Gman333g I just met you, and do not like you. I'm not doing homework for you.
I don’t understand the DET hate at all for this deadline. Obv their FO is dog water, Monty is crazy, etc…but they couldn’t just keeping bringing back 35yo Bojan back every year and relying on him to create shots. Fontecchio is a 6’8 shooter, smart, can play the 3 which DET lacks badly. They just need actual NBA players lol, and he’s cheap (RFA this summer, shouldn’t be expensive to re sign) has size and can shoot.
Idk what delusional ppl thought DET was gonna get QG for Burks straight up, let alone also get two seconds lol. PHI called DET about Burks, and I assume the offer was something like hey take Marcus Morris for Burks bc it’ll save us 6M & get us out of the tax, and we’ll give you a couple seconds. Like he didn’t have high value on an expiring. I did not hear a single word about anyone coming with a 1st for Bojan. They should’ve moved him last deadline or w/e obv when he had good value, but he was prolly in the few seconds type of range rn…or a premium 2nd or two. So close to 1st round value, but not quite.
QG IMO had first round value. He has this year and next super cheap, then RFA. He’s like 6’5, has been 38% 3P on pretty good volume, and can defend. He’s also 23yo. DET badly needs guys who can shoot and have some size/can be not terrible on defense. Bojan and Burks for QG & a couple seconds made sense to me. It’s like Bojan is almost FRP value, especially for the right team, Burks is worth a cpl seconds, QG has FRP value. So the math works out there and I think both teams got what they wanted. I know two teams can never both benefit from a trade, but maybe that’s what happened.
DET waived Killian so Monty can’t play him anymore. Ivey went beast mode last night or w/e. Adding QG/Simone and TBJr adds 3 guys who are 6’5-6’8, can shoot 3s, and are wings/Fs. Not a glamorous trade deadline, but a solid one, and at least they didn’t trade for LaVine 😂
As a Min fan, I hope TBJ does well for y’all - I like his game and potential, he just couldn’t break through on a stacked Min team (even though he prob deserved more minutes than what Finch gave him)
Daryl Morey competing with Ben for most hated in Philly after today.
Looks like they're throwing in the towel on the season
My therapist will be hearing about this, thankyou to the front office of the Chicago Bulls.
Knicks Mavs and Pistons won the trade deadline, Knicks by a long shot
1. Torontos moves are weird because they didn't flip Olynyk or Bruce Brown when that could've been a package potentially
2. The "Dwight Powell will still play 7 minutes at center" is the most stable position in a franchise at this point
Only 3 things in this world are guaranteed
Death
Taxes
And Dwight Powell getting rotational minutes in Dallas
@@flamingythermit314Dwight Powell getting hit in the face
Raps are only mini-tanking - going for the play-in pretty much
Everyone was complaining about their front office making iffy moves, and then I showed them the Bull's press conference with AKME today.
They all apologized.
I hear you on the Grimes is essentially a 1st but hes not. The value in 1st round picks is the cost controlled contract. Grimes will need to be paid soon, which is why I think Knicks trading him instead of a 1st is extremely smart. Exactly the same reason they were willing to trade Quickley instead of a 1st.
Quickley is worth significantly more than a late first, hence why the Raps accepted that trade. I do 100% get what you mean though with Grimes
Thing about the Hayward trade is that his contract is like 30 sum mil so OKC can bundle that and picks to get a big money guy
How is that possible when this his last year on that contract
@@theetruth8626I imagine they would resign him at a lower price point
@@theetruth8626 Sign and trade perhaps
I just don’t understand how there are so many teams that need to start over, and so many teams who are a couple of role players away from competing for championships, and somehow nothing happened. I know we’ve been spoiled the past few years with these insane deadlines, but this one just didn’t make sense. Maybe the buyout market will be big this year. Got a lot of quality role players wasting away on teams that aren’t using them. PJ Tucker is going somewhere for sure
The Celtics must have a deal with the devil. No way around it
Have you noticed how the league has crammed Tatum down our throats for like 3 years now? Bron and Steph are on their way out, and all the best players are foreign. The league has been so desperate to get people to take Tatum and Booker seriously so they can have an American face of the league in a few years. It started with Zion, then they tried to push Booker on us, and now it’s Tatum. Notice Boston and Phoenix flukey Final’s appearances in recent years. (Also the play-in was only created in an attempt to get Zion in the playoffs in 2020). The league is desperate
ironically this implies that the league isn't scripted, but heavily influenced. Which for what it's worth, seems slightly better 😂😂@@jamiegaskins3687
@@jamiegaskins3687 how could you be so passionately incorrect For your sake, honestly you only hurt yourself if anything but I’m sure this is a character trait you carry around on a daily basis just get that checked out for your wellbeing
@@RaunchyRoger007 it’s ok if you’re NPC bro. You’re the NBA’s main demographic. They want people who have no idea wtf is going on
"WTF IS WRONG WITH THE CHICAGO BULL THEY DIDN'T DO A DAM THING"
Lakers front office basically confirmed that they have given up on the LeBron and AD era. The roster they have now isnt taking them anywhere. If I'm LeBron I'm definitely considering asking for a trade.
There's no trade the Lakers could've done that was a big enough positive to bring them firmly into championship contention. Unless Phil Jackson or something other legendary coach randomly says they'll come on board if Ham is fired today there's no move to be made.
This FO has routinely failed on the margins and that's biting them now. We can only hope they aren't actually stupid enough to side with Ham over LeBron like what Irwin is allegedly reporting.
They f up firing Vogel and are stuck with ham this team is good enough with bron dlo ar15 rui and ad(if ad and bron are healthy and ad is aggressive) but ham and poor shooters is the main reason there not winning or even challenging
Ham is the main reason it's gone to shit(there are other factors but don't contribute nearly as much)
@@jadencedras6878 Agreed. Vogel got scapegoated unfairly via Westbrook and putting a team together that was purposefully not suited to Vogel's strengths. Ham is one of the worst coaches in the league like Boylen and Beilen tier bad. This team is too talented to be just at 500 record wise.
The common factor is lebron James. Lakers would've been fine if they built around AD. He carries that stable and James poisons everything he touches. Let him ruin some other team
Funky you’re the goat
OKC's problem is offensive rebounding not defensive.
It’s kinda both
Nick Nurse really about to unlock Maxey potential with the roster. All NBA 3rd team
Im so mad that caruso is still on the bulls its unreal. Imagine how good he could be on the mavs, bucks, literally any other team lol
Hayward is a big enough piece theoretically to help OKC make a finals run despite their rebounding jssues
Bill Simmons said it right, Dejonte like the 20th best guard in the league, possibly, what’s that worth?
Literally nothing for my Hawks.. not even a small improvement… i needed either Hunter, Saddiq or CC traded for something better. Front office and ownership.. count y’all days man😤
Hawks owner too busy shedding salary and avoiding luxury tax to make winning moves. The worst kind of basketball hell
11:56 Wouldn't mind if the Lakers signed Dinwiddie. I just shudder at the thought of Ham bringing back the 3 guard and 4 guard line ups if he does.
Dinwiddie wants Dallas
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 That report literally stems from the fact the Mavs played the Nets at home and he was still there in the building and the beat report being "cautiously optimistic" they could sign him. If something more concrete surfaces later sure not this one though.
@@CrazyxEnigma he was caught talking directly with Cuban. My boi wants back
@@agayactornamedmichaeldougl6289 At the Lakers game he was talking to Pelinka with his agent in tow. I don't think he's made his mind up yet between Lakers or Mavs and is weighing his options.
@@CrazyxEnigma could be, but the Lakers will be a play in team and the Mavs will be top 6, the Mavs can pay more AND he is familiar with the Mavs. Seems like an easy choice tbh.
lmao dwight powell forsure getting minutes😂
I mean I think LAL had that offer of DLo+’29 1st+’28 swap+JHS for him. And I’m sure there would’ve been a 3rd team to take on DLo for the expiring.
So it’s okay well Trae and Dejounte don’t fit, you’re gonna have to move him…but you have this summer if you think more suitors will be out there. Are you gonna get better offers than ‘29 LAL 1st+’28 swap+JHS+expiring $? I’m sure LAL would’ve thrown in a couple seconds or whatever the F.
They gave up a fake CHA 1st, (will end up as two 2nds) then their own ‘25/‘27 1sts & ‘26 swap. So they rly only gave up two 1sts, a swap (and one that prolly doesn’t have crazy upside) and two 2nds for Dejounte afaik. I mean if that LAL 1st was unprotected, or close (like T1, T2) then it’d instantly be one of the highest upside picks out there. If it’s unprotected, it’d be up there with like LAC ‘28 1st and stuff like that. ‘28 swap was surely unprotected, and again that has extremely high upside. Like if they were really holding off bc they wanted two 1sts & a swap bc it’s what they gave up, that seems not smart. I bet if you got the LAL ‘29 unprotected 1st, you could send it to OKC for two of their 1sts if quantity mattered more to them. And JHS isn’t 1st round value obv, but he’s young and has upside. On a rookie deal for 4y. I’d at least consider him to be worth those two CHA 2nds that fake 1st turns in to.
But idk, they’re 8M under the tax next year without counting their 1st rounder, counting the non gtds of Bruno Fernando and Garrison. Saddiq is an RFA. Their 1st should be at least a few million, plus I forgot they have SAC’s. So they’d be pretty much at the tax line with the current 12 plus two 1sts. They won’t have their own 1st next season, and even tho Jalen Johnson is awesome now, they’re not gonna be good. The big thing about trading Dejounte or whoever for an expiring now, is that’s all off ur books next year. If you trade him next year, you can prolly shave some salary…but you’re not cleaning 25.5M off your books.
And by trading Dejounte now, it would’ve seemingly made them worse also, which means higher lotto odds. They’re the 10 seed somehow at 22-29, 9th best lotto odds but still in the play in. No way they’re cracking the T4, or even T5 really…but they def could’ve had BKN and either TOR or MEM jump them. Maybe both. So instead of being around the play in, prolly looking at around the 6th or 7th best odds. If you’re 7, you’re like 86% to be T8. About 32% chance at T4. 6 gives you a 37.2% chance at T4, and you’re T7 about 76%. Vs where they are now, about 14% at T4 and T10 about 80%. And that’s if you don’t luck in to the play in. So basically a 32-37% chance at T4, and at least a T8 pick, vs prolly 10-11, or if you win the play in you’re like 15.
That’s a pretty big difference. And ya it’s not the best draft whatever, having a pick in the mid teens and then one in the T8…with extra draft capital and being COMFORTABLY below the tax to where you can use the full MLE…that’s enormous. They’d have Capela on a big expiring, and they could completely re-shape that roster. They’d have the draft capital to make a big move (T8, mid teens, ‘29, ‘31, LAL ‘29 pick, etc) or do whatever. Now they’re kinda stuck. Idk who the team is that’s gonna be offering like two good 1sts and a swap for Dejounte, you have limited flexibility, and you’re in no man’s land basically.
But I guess if LAL wasn’t actually willing to offer that (even tho every report said they were lol) then nothing you can do. Now you just gotta hope UTA or BKN or someone like that sees Dejounte as a building block and gives you what you want. I def wouldn’t wanna be ATL rn.
Sheesh, didn’t someone pay you for all this😂
Hawks wanted Reaves Lakers weren't willing to give him up that's why it didn't go through.
Grimes might need the ball back , I did love him making things work with Knicks for so long but that's it.
And the magic do nothing again 🤦
they don't need anything they need to let there young opkayers develop its not like they have a chance at anything rn
@@haseebdawar4760 so are you comfortable with giving an extension to fultz? Because his contact is up at the end of the season if we would've traded him we could've used the last half of the season to have the new player gell with the rest you know since we're not going anywhere this season with his history of injuries and lack of offense
I hate that Olynyk trade for both teams.
For the Jazz it's like cool we got a first round pick for Olynyk. In a vacuum thats good business. But the thing is that if they're planning long-term then they should be wanting the first that they owe to OKC to convey this year to free up all of their future draft capital. And without Olynyk it becomes extremely hard. He was important for them. I just don't think that valuing the 27th or 28th pick in 2024 over freeing their own 2025 or 2026 pick was wise.
And for the Raptors it's like okay Olynyk is a good player and we'll probably re-sign him in the offseason and Agbaji was a lottery pick a few years ago. We're just giving up a late first? You can talk yourself into it. But you just started a rebuild. Olynyk is about to turn 33. Agbaji hasn't shown anything beyond on ball defense and the ability to hit a corner 3 (sometimes). Everything else has been bad. If I'm them I'd just much rather keep the 2024 pick and more years of team/cost control.
It seems like one of those deals where the teams discussed it, knew it was bad and then slowly talked themselves into it lol.
The thing with Murray is that the Hawks were never going to recoup everything they gave up for him. That trade was an overpay from the word go. And he has regressed as a defender, even though it’s not all his fault. He isn’t the player he was in San Antonio.
Because he’s not a shooting guard.
As a Raps fan, enjoy the full OG experience Knicks fans! The guy is awesome, but is alwayssssss hurt. And it's usually just random chance injuries. This year he cut his finger chopping cucumbers and was out for like 5 games! He's good for 60-65 games max.
I was watching the original upload and was so confused when I got this notification lol
Great editing
As a Hawks fan, it's not our players who don't fit. It's the coach.
As a kings fan I truly don’t think Sixers fans are ready to truly see Buddy play. I know sixers fan are ruthless towards their players who underperform.
Hawks clearly don’t care about team morale which is odd.. how y’all expect to even comprehend a championship with these circumstances
Dream deadline for the Knicks for me. Surprised the hawks think they have a chance
Mavs big W
10:20 it’s called a Hockey Assist lol
Detroit subtle moves but don't sleep on them
Can you make a video on Trae Young’s improved defense
It really not that hard. Embiid got hurt so other teams decided that it was worth trying their chances. And some teams also decided to upgrade their depth like the Knicks did. Right now the sixers goal was to get under the luxury tax per new cba rules. We are not sure if joel will be able to comeback this season and I think honestly he should take the whole season off to rehab that knee as much as possible. His health is a priority.
Atlanta should honestly push for Ben Simmons him and trae would be perfect. The lob threats, the defense hell make up for and the fact he's not trying to score 30+ would let trae still go crazy.
Simmons is cooked. His back problems are a major concern and that contract is an albatross. It'd be one thing if he's waived and the Hawks get him for nothing but I honestly doubt he'll play again when that contract expires.
Ah, here goes the vid!
I was here for the first post, funky
Cant believe the Hornets got rid of PJ man...
Teams are starting to wake up to these super teams not working out.
I fucking hate the Bulls front office.
How is it that AKME are WORSE than GarPax
Grimes fouls but would not get called since he was on the Knicks…
Daryl Morey need to resign
Daryl morey lying to Pat bev and trading marcus Morris after he finally got to play for his city is not a good look for attracting talent this offseason and im a Philly diehard
Ehhh Pat bev has been traded so many times I don’t think it matters, announcing he was traded on his podcast or not, didn’t know Morris was from here but hopefully this means more minutes for ROCO. I think we pickup Lowry in the buyout market and it’s a wash.
@@MrCaucasianThunder not gonna lie, roco looks a bit washed
@@TriuneWorshipperno wonder harden dipped
@@TriuneWorshipper the worst trade was the Springer one. The pat one was like “okay Morey is fucking stupid but Payne and a 2nd isn’t terrible”
Springer to the fucking Celtics for a second is malpractice and Morey needs to be gone by the morning.
Jaden Springer is a gift to the Celtics just like Isaiah Joe for the Thunder
The great thing about Buddy Hield is that he can shoot like Steph but is big like Klay.
He’s the same size as Steph, klay is 6’7 lol
@@Versace2xIt was a reference. That's what Kings owner Vivek Ranadive said when Sac traded Cousins for Hield. People made fun of him for the comment. Buddy is only slightly bigger and sturdier than Steph though. The former is 6:4 ish.
Masai really traded a 1st round pick for Kelly Olynyk and Ochai Agbaji 🤦🏾♂️ I’m close to make breaking point as a Raps fan
Just remember that pick is late late first rounder, think it from OKC or LAC, not much more valuable than a second.
You ok? Why don't you research what pick they gave up. It is the worst pick among the other picks they currently have. It is like drafting Flynn and look what you got. So it is no big deal. Plus, Toronto has a rotation player to play with the young core. Freed up 2 space and now we can sign someone to fill in the space. 😮😮
No it's really not that bad. KO is a really nice floor spacing f/c to have with Scottie and Jak. Ochai is a really solid shooter and wing defender that we can develop. If that means giving up what's likely gonna be one of the last 5 or so first round picks in a weak class then I'll live with it. Plus if Kelly walks this summer that's more cap space we open up to bring in some real players
As a neutral fan of the game, I am so so disappointed in all the teams who decided to stay put. The kings, Blazers, bulls, Lakers, and even the wizards not trading Kyle Kuzma all were very disappointing.
Grant Williams is finally going to a deserving team
KNicks playing defense is why they always get hurt
TILLMAN IS 25??? foo looks like 32 at least.
Cant even make the bare minimum for my dad
Raptors trading a 1st for Olynyk is fucking hilarious
Raptors slowly trying to build the canadian national team lmao.
It was only a matter of time until the Canadian Larry Bird returned back to the mother land
Knicks won the trade deadline full stop.
The giannis impressions are going to be glorious on pat bev’s pod for the rest of the season 😂
My Warriors some ass 😂
Clippers 💔
Mavs overpay
Utah FLEECED Toronto
I didn’t think you could trade injured players?
2K has ruined the brain of many NBA viewers. Thats just a 2K thing.
@@BOnYTB hahaha damn it! It 100% has ruined my then! I legit thought you couldn’t because of 2k
@@BellPepperProductions It’s funny how they started this lowkey spread of misinformation. Thinking back on this reply (I’ve legit never come back to a comment section before, I never thought I’d be doing something this idiotic with my time…there’s like a 0% chance you read this but I was SO bored I was hitting random buttons on here and found this) I didn’t even consider you thought that was the rule for any other reason, in my mind it had to be 2K.
That’s prolly not true, but it’s like 99% of people who ask it. Stupid game. Speaking of 99%, there’s a 99%+ chance nobody will ever read this ever in life. If you are reading this I hope you have a great day, and/or night. You’re gonna win the lottery or something.
Lamest trade deadline
I feel like people are being way too generous to Dallas. The PJ Washington trade is awful. Top 2 protected pick in 2027? Given Dallas's potential for implosion, that might be one of the juiciest picks in the entire league. Plus a useful player in Grant Williams? I feel like if it wasn't Charlotte on the other end of the trade, people would be skewering Dallas and praising the team getting the pick.
Grant Williams forgot how to shoot and is quite simply too undersized to be a starting PF. Luka is one of the 5 best players in the league and the Mavs should be in win now mode for as long as they have him. Punting on the season because you’re too stingy with your picks to get your franchise player a reasonable defensive forward is a sure fire way to make sure an implosion happens sooner rather than later.
My Pistons continue to be the worst team in history. Such a poverty franchise
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*Lebron wasting his career with the Lakers, he should have 6 rings with 5 different teams by now* 👎
Dude stop that narrative man the dude has had all the help he freaking needs man every team he goes to it's lebron needs more help it's never his fault dude is not the goat he will never be anywhere near Jordan man
TIMELORD!